ArrowBricks Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) After the dust has settled, here’s my list of best to worst with corresponding score out of 10. I have included the STAP/B1 Battle Droid and K2SO 1. K2SO - 9/10 Loses 1 point for the face/eye design 2. MTT - 8.5/10 Loses 1 point for the price Loses 0.5 points for the size especially lack of Droids to be carried, Bly inaccuracies, colour of Commando Droids. 3. Battle Droid W/STAP - 8.5/10 Loses 1.0 point for the price Loses 0.5 points for the decision to not release the B1 on its own, head design of B1. 4. V-19 Torrent - 8.5/10 Loses 1.5 points for the size because it severely restricts the functionality of the wing feature. 5. AT-ST - 8/10 Loses 1 point for the price. Loses O.5 points for the lack of colour diversity (sand blue, dark tan) Loses 0.5 points for the amount of figures (really feel it had to have 2 pilots). 6. Force Burner Snowspeeder - 8/10 Loses 1 point for the price, especially considering it’s less iconic/important. Loses 0.5 points because the small speeder looks 4+ Loses 0.5 points for the oversize cannon at the back, lack of other features. 7. Jango’s Starship - 8/10 Loses 1 point for the minifigures - I get why Jango doesn’t have arm printing but the consistency re. Rex is jarring. Boba Fett is awful. Loses 0.5 points for the size - I can’t help but feel the 2019 version would have been perfect. Loses 0.5 points for the box-art (TCW), seismic charge design, and stud-shooters. 8. Buildable Wicket - 8/10 Loses 0.5 points due to price Loses 1 points for size Loses 0.5 points for overall design 9. 327th BP - 7.5/10 Loses 1.5 points for price Loses 0.5 points for minifigures Loses 0.5 points - oversized AT-RT, colour scheme etc 10. Clone Turbo Tank - 6/10 Loses 2 points for price Loses 1 point for minifigures Loses 1 point for size, basic design, stud shooters Edited July 4 by ArrowBricks Quote
Yperio_Bricks Posted July 4 Posted July 4 Why no Jaxxon in the snowspeeder? Sales of the set would explode, no? Quote
Flawless Cowboy Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, ArrowBricks said: really feel it had to have 2 pilots I see this complaint a lot and I just don’t get it. No oversized UCS set has ever come with two identical figures. I’d understand if people wanted a Chewbacca because he’s relevant to the scene, or if they asked for dual molded legs, but this is not a minifig-scale build. The figure goes on the stand. 3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I think the issue is that the pneumatic piece that enabled that function in the 2008 version was exclusive to that set. I don‘t follow Technic set news at all, so there might be other pieces still in production that work just as well, but I understand them not wanting to resurrect that specific part The Justifier had a landing function that was reminiscent of the V19, the rear wing’s movement folded two side skids using technic pieces. It’s definitely doable, perhaps not at this scale. Either way, this V19 is a far less ambitious successor. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 51 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said: I see this complaint a lot and I just don’t get it. No oversized UCS set has ever come with two identical figures. I’d understand if people wanted a Chewbacca because he’s relevant to the scene, or if they asked for dual molded legs, but this is not a minifig-scale build. The figure goes on the stand. Yeah the figs would look weird in the AT-ST anyway since it's so oversized, I don't get why this is a complaint from so many people. Anyway here's my CTT ranking: 1. 2010 2. 2005 3. 2016 4. 2025 I like them all except 2025. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said: Why no Jaxxon in the snowspeeder? Sales of the set would explode, no? Jaxxon in a lego set would either be an immediate insta-buy at 200% of it's MSRP, or cause me to quit buying legos and become violently ill whenever I see it, I'm not sure which. 3 hours ago, ArrowBricks said: After the dust has settled, here’s my list of best to worst with corresponding score out of 10. I have included the STAP/B1 Battle Droid and K2SO This is a good list and I agree with most of your comments, I'm gonna steal your formatting for mine: 1. Space Jesus's T-wing Starfighter (V-19 torrent)- 8.5/10 A little overpriced, but best in the wave. Solid build. Excellent Obi-Wan and clone pilot, great to finally get an accurate helmet. 2. Fire Nation Snowspeeder (Force Burner Snowspeeder) - 8/10 In any other wave I'd be conflicted, but this is some nice, fun variety The build itself sets the stage for some great advancements to the T-47 Orange blades return and the duros looks awesome. I'll need an air nation one to conclude the quadrilogy in 2032. 3. Man who went to Julliard (K-2SO) -8/10 I have my issues with how many of these we get, but it's at it's best when it's a droid The majority of the build is very well done Unfortunately, it's important to get the face right on these, and this set fails to do so Here's where it gets tricky. Every other set in the wave I have serious issues with: 4. Disney-approved Jango Fett's Uyghur One ("Jango Fett's Starship") - 7/10 I disagree with the set in concept- Jango's starfighter should be at a higher price point. Even at this price point, it's a good $15 too expensive for what's included. That said, for a starfighter, it's a solid build, and it's nice for Jango to be widely availible. 5. Bly and Aayla rudely interrupt a droid picnic (MTT) - 7/10 It's nice to finally get some separatist representation, but this is poorly done (Also, should have been brown) $150 is a solid price point for an MTT in concept, but the value isn't there- this is a $120 set in 2024. Bly and Aayla are nice, but it fits too few droids and the commandos are somehow still the wrong color and totally inaccurate- why aren't more people talking about this? Where are the clone bros on this? 6. "CHICKEN WALKER!!" (AT-ST) - 7/10 Awfully overpriced- in terms of total $$$ and not percentage, this is probably the most overpriced in the wave Doesn't feel like a big enough improvement for what it is- I'm not a studless guy, but the "face" needed to be smoother Overall feels like it's not a big enough upgrade from the 2006 version, but to be fair it isn't too bad. 7. They fly now (Battle Droid W/STAP) - 6.5/10 Another one with a disgusting price. The B1 is too thick, and has a weird head That said, the STAP itself looks fairly solid. 8. Actual Cannibal Wicket Lebeouf (Buildable Wicket) - 6.5/10 I will give it some credit for the price being fairly reasonable When will lego learn that the vast majority of their organic buildable DO NOT WORK. The face is just awful 9. PS1 rendition of a Clone Turbo Tank - 6/10 Another seriously terrible price. We've passed "set containing grievous" tier and hit the X-jet tier. Even if this was a reasonable price, it's just a bad set. I could take the size, but it's so weirdly underdetailed and low-polygonal. Shoutout to the one galactic marine on the box art who found a jump boost potion somewhere. 10. The Scourge of @Mandalorianknight (327th BP) - 4/10 Quite possibly the most overpriced by percent set in recent LSW history, deserving a tier of it's own. The final form of clone fever and lego's response to it. They couldn't have made this a worse set for me personally if they'd done it intentionally- The march to kill cloth continues with plastic pauldrons, a concept with potential but poorly executed. Oversized AT-RT returns, along with a new Funko Pop DSD taking over from the old one I liked. The one part of the set I thought was a good sign- the terrain build that I've long advocated for putting in battle packs- WAS REMOVED FOR THE FINAL SET Objectively less value than ANOTHER CLONE BATTLE PACK that it's 50% MORE EXPENSIVE THAN and will be on shelves at the same time. Somehow, some way, the clone brotubers and the kids that watch them will buy enough to encourage lego to keep doing these at these prices. Edited July 4 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Max_Lego Posted July 4 Posted July 4 I love how people here manage to be political on a Lego Star Wars forum, and everyone is absolutely fine with it Quote
MKJoshA Posted July 4 Author Posted July 4 25 minutes ago, Max_Lego said: I love how people here manage to be political on a Lego Star Wars forum, and everyone is absolutely fine with it I'm not catching the politics. If there's something out of line just report it. Quote
Rwbricks Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, Yperio_Bricks said: Why no Jaxxon in the snowspeeder? Sales of the set would explode, no? I might have gotten the set if Jaxxon was included. He and Darth Squidward would’ve been great to have together. Alas, we may just have to wait for the Star Wars Glup Shitto CMF. 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: 8. Actual Cannibal Wicket Lebeouf (Buildable Wicket) - 6.5/10 I will give it some credit for the price being fairly reasonable When will lego learn that the vast majority of their organic buildable DO NOT WORK. The face is just awful Funny, I actually like the face. Sure, the proportions are off, but it captured the same uncanny/creepy factor that I got from certain shots of the face in the movie. It’s still not a set I’ll get, though. I do question why they made his legs so that he looks like he has to use the restroom, and why they printed dark brown on the minifigure when the rest of it, and the build itself, is reddish brown. Quote
BrickPrick Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Max_Lego said: I love how people here manage to be political on a Lego Star Wars forum, and everyone is absolutely fine with it Well, Star Wars has always been political, so it checks out. And some harmless fun is not hurting anyone, is it? I don't know what's to dislike about Wicket's face. Actually think his design is pretty adorable. Definitely one of the better buildable characters out there. A far cry from the abomination you may know as creepy Chewie. Also hilarious this and the Battle Droid with STAP are the only 2025 sets with Skywalker Saga branding. JB Spielwaren has a review (english and german) of the Republic Juggernaut available for your viewing pleasure. I almost don't dare watching this disaster. Edited July 4 by BrickPrick Quote
Max_Lego Posted July 4 Posted July 4 4 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Well, Star Wars has always been political, so it checks out. And some harmless fun is not hurting anyone, is it? You call a racist joke about another country's internal affairs "some harmless fun"? Quote
ArrowBricks Posted July 4 Posted July 4 3 hours ago, Flawless Cowboy said: I see this complaint a lot and I just don’t get it. No oversized UCS set has ever come with two identical figures. I’d understand if people wanted a Chewbacca because he’s relevant to the scene, or if they asked for dual molded legs, but this is not a minifig-scale build. The figure goes on the stand. I was waiting for this sort of comment. Completely fair, but for me, I’d have liked it if they broke the rule. It feels right here, it feels like it adds a bit of fun. Makes it feel complete. But that’s just me. Not sure I’m asking for much, especially for the price. Quote
BrickPrick Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 minute ago, Max_Lego said: You call a racist joke about another country's internal affairs "some harmless fun"? Come again? What do you mean? I mean things like calling Obi-Wan "Space Jesus" and such stuff. That's pretty funny to me. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 15 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Come again? What do you mean? I mean things like calling Obi-Wan "Space Jesus" and such stuff. That's pretty funny to me. I think he's just trolling Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 37 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Come again? What do you mean? I mean things like calling Obi-Wan "Space Jesus" and such stuff. That's pretty funny to me. He was talking about: 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: 4. Disney-approved Jango Fett's Uyghur One ("Jango Fett's Starship") - 7/10 Still pretty dark humour. But I like it. Dark humour is like new Lego sets. Not everyone can get it. 42 minutes ago, Max_Lego said: You call a racist joke about another country's internal affairs "some harmless fun"? British people constantly slander the French for being CESMs and no one bats an eye. British people in turn are made fun of their dark history of colonisation and god awful PMs. Russia similarly for the failures of communism and other stuff. Germany for… yeah we’re not going to go down that rabbit hole. And America… A bit of banter/ dark humour about countries is nothing new. 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: 1. Space Jesus's T-wing Starfighter (V-19 torrent)- 8.5/10 A little overpriced, but best in the wave. Solid build. Excellent Obi-Wan and clone pilot, great to finally get an accurate helmet. Can’t wait to see Space Moses’ flying Aquaman logo for Ahsoka S2. 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: 10. The Scourge of @Mandalorianknight (327th BP) - 4/10 Quite possibly the most overpriced by percent set in recent LSW history, deserving a tier of it's own. The final form of clone fever and lego's response to it. They couldn't have made this a worse set for me personally if they'd done it intentionally- The march to kill cloth continues with plastic pauldrons, a concept with potential but poorly executed. Oversized AT-RT returns, along with a new Funko Pop DSD taking over from the old one I liked. The one part of the set I thought was a good sign- the terrain build that I've long advocated for putting in battle packs- WAS REMOVED FOR THE FINAL SET Objectively less value than ANOTHER CLONE BATTLE PACK that it's 50% MORE EXPENSIVE THAN and will be on shelves at the same time. Somehow, some way, the clone brotubers and the kids that watch them will buy enough to encourage lego to keep doing these at these prices. #JusticeForBactaMound It’s just awful. I kinda hope that Lego actually loses money this wave. It’s the only way they’ll learn. MandRproductions and his ilk are the monster that screams the loudest. The monster we helped create (by buying 501st BP MkI) The monster who will come for all our playsets soon enough. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 4 Posted July 4 1 hour ago, MKJoshA said: I'm not catching the politics. If there's something out of line just report it. One of my fake set names referenced China's treatment of their Uyghur population (The joke being that disney won't let Slave One be called by it's name, but has famously been concerningly close to the latter issue.), but I don't know if that was it. I've made that joke on this site for years, I believe others have referenced it in the past as well, I can't figure out where race would factor in, and it was relating only to China, where I know Max_Lego generally takes issue with references to Russia. I had thought it was something the western world generally agreed about, but a quick google that the issue appears to have just flared up in eastern european media for some reason- I wasn't aware of it when I posted but apparently the joke was poorly timed. I can go back and change it to something else if neccesary. 33 minutes ago, ArrowBricks said: I was waiting for this sort of comment. Completely fair, but for me, I’d have liked it if they broke the rule. It feels right here, it feels like it adds a bit of fun. Makes it feel complete. But that’s just me. Not sure I’m asking for much, especially for the price. I can see both sides. At the end of the day I don't think it matters all that much, nor is it the biggest issue with the set, but it certainly would have been nice to get both crewers. It would also be nice to get them in the system version, I'd add. 1 hour ago, Rwbricks said: Funny, I actually like the face. Sure, the proportions are off, but it captured the same uncanny/creepy factor that I got from certain shots of the face in the movie. It’s still not a set I’ll get, though. I do question why they made his legs so that he looks like he has to use the restroom, and why they printed dark brown on the minifigure when the rest of it, and the build itself, is reddish brown. I was playing it up a bit for the fake set name, but I agree it's not too bad if you look at it from the "ewoks eat humans" perspective. The only thing is I can't imagine lego was going for that. I wonder who does buy these- the droids I can at least see, but the organic ones, baby yoda exempted, always look really rough. Chewbacca was always on HEAVY sales, and clearly even lego's TV group recognizes how cursed that set is. 14 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Still pretty dark humour. But I like it. Dark humour is like new Lego sets. Not everyone can get it. Can’t wait to see Space Moses’ flying Aquaman logo for Ahsoka S2. #JusticeForBactaMound It’s just awful. I kinda hope that Lego actually loses money this wave. It’s the only way they’ll learn. MandRproductions and his ilk are the monster that screams the loudest. The monster we helped create (by buying 501st BP MkI) The monster who will come for all our playsets soon enough. I didn't realize the issue was contested in the east, nor that it was cropping up in eastern european news cycles today (though I still haven't been able to find out WHY)- to be fair to max it was a bad time for the joke, even if I didn't know it when I posted. It's a good reminder that even if everyone in the west seems to be on the same page, the forum isn't region-locked. I can't figure this one out- I get Ezra, is he flying an A-wing in concept art? It's a nice mix of "lego was so close to actually putting terrain in a battle pack and took it out at the last second" and "lego is charging $45 for this battle pack and yet STILL felt the need to remove a side build". I'm scrambling to finish my May 4 contest entries right now (plus it's a bit of a major holiday in the states at the moment) but I'll probably switch out my PFP to have my sigfig standing on the terrain build. Quote
BrickPrick Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: He was talking about: Still pretty dark humour. But I like it. Dark humour is like new Lego sets. Not everyone can get it. Ha, and i am one of them. I don't get it. Though im quite confident i wouldn't have any issues with it. I like dark humour. And it is my conviction everybody can poke fun about anyone or anything. They call us this, we call them that, it's perfectly fine. As long as you don't drop to a personal level, i don't see any good reason to be seriously offended. I like the idea of comedy being subjektive, so you don't have to find everything funny. But as a result, you don't have to take it personal and make it anyone elses problem, either. You can just accept there are many facets of humour which appeals to different kinds of people's taste and move on. Because at the end of the day, it's just a joke. Nothing more, nothing less. But yeah, i am from the country where "Schadenfreude" comes from. I like to laugh a lot, it’s a very healthy thing to do. They even say it’s the best medicine. So i am totally extra biased in that regard. Back to topic. Some of my Lego Star Wars 2025 set ratings: Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter Microfighter 9.5/10 Death Trooper & Night Trooper Battle Pack 8/10 Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor 7/10 ARC-170 Starfighter 7/10 Only the sets that i do own right now. I don't know yet how much the actual price point should factor in for the scores. While it’s undoubtedly tied to the product, buying it cheaper or more expensive doesn’t actually magically make or break the overall quality of a set, just make it a deal for better or worse. Edited July 5 by BrickPrick Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I can't figure this one out- I get Ezra, is he flying an A-wing in concept art? He’s seen putting on a flight suit in a under attack A-Wing hangar in concept art. Late I know. But let’s commemorate the 4th of July Dear Lego: You say The price of a Tie Avenger is not a price that you're willing to pay You cry In your ABS, which you hurl on the shelves when you see me go by Why is this wave so bad? Remember, we made an arrangement when you went insane Now, you're making me mad Remember, despite our estrangement, I'm your man You’ll make a Tie Avenger, soon, you'll see You'll remember you belong to me You'll do a Tie Avenger, time will tell You'll remember that I served you well Prices rise, in house themes fall We have seen each other through it all And when push comes to shove I will send a fully armed battalion to remind you of Tie Avenger! Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya-da Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya You say a Tie Avenger is draining, and you can't go on You'll be the one complainin' when I am gone And no, don't change the subject 'Cause you're my favorite subject My sweet, submissive subject My loyal, plastic subject Forever and ever and ever and ever and ever You'll make what I want, like before I will fight the fight and win the war For Tie Avenger, for your praise (of Andor) And I'll love Tie Avenger 'til my dying days When my hope’s gone, I'll go mad So don't throw away this thing we had 'Cause when push comes to shove I will disassemble your Friends and City to remind you to make Tie Avenger Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya-da Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat- everybody! Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da, dat, dat, da-ya-da Da-da-da, dat-da, dat, da-da-da, da-ya-da Da-da-da, dat, da-ya-da-ah Day #72 of glorious Tie Avenger revolution (i’m concerned that i’m resorting to musicals like Hamilton) Edited July 5 by CloneCommando99 Quote
lowlead Posted July 5 Posted July 5 ^^ ...but would it look better than this one?? Just a click away from instructions. Quote
MKJoshA Posted July 5 Author Posted July 5 Alright @Max_Lego and @Mandalorianknight I get the political reference now. I don't think Mandalorianknight meant anything racist by his joke. Both of you know the rules of the forum and have followed them in this forum. Let's all understand that different jokes hit people different and show a little grace. Quote
Max_Lego Posted July 5 Posted July 5 @MKJoshA, I remember you banned a guy for bringing in the Gaza events. And now you say that insulting Chinese people is perfectly fine. I understand everything, except one thing: If I am the one responsible, why can't you just ban me already? Quote
DarDarJinks Posted July 5 Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Max_Lego said: @MKJoshA, I remember you banned a guy for bringing in the Gaza events. And now you say that insulting Chinese people is perfectly fine. I understand everything, except one thing: If I am the one responsible, why can't you just ban me already? No one is insulting anyone. You've got bigger issues in your country right now, stop yapping about politics and let's please stick to talking about Lego Quote
GlacierPhoenix Posted July 5 Posted July 5 Solid Bricks brought up significant stability and design issues with the Juggernaut and is surprised it passed LEGOs quality standards. Now just is it a "poor" set it literally falls apart when you pick it up. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted July 5 Posted July 5 12 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: He’s seen putting on a flight suit in a under attack A-Wing hangar in concept art. Oh, that makes sense. I guess he did fly one in Rebels on solo missions. 8 minutes ago, GlacierPhoenix said: Solid Bricks brought up significant stability and design issues with the Juggernaut and is surprised it passed LEGOs quality standards. Now just is it a "poor" set it literally falls apart when you pick it up. At this point I'm actually cheering for these to shelfwarm miserably. I think it does more damage in the long term if a wave with these prices and other issues is successful. They can't course correct most of the issues in time for the 2026 waves but they can at least start charging semi reasonable prices again. There's no universe where a parent sees the two clones vs droids battle packs on shelves together and gets the 327th one. Quote
BrickPrick Posted July 5 Posted July 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, GlacierPhoenix said: Solid Bricks brought up significant stability and design issues with the Juggernaut and is surprised it passed LEGOs quality standards. Now just is it a "poor" set it literally falls apart when you pick it up. Yep, i see it in this very moment and can not believe it. What an absolutely abysmal display. Just can not fathom how much Lego screwed this set up and what went wrong there. While it was always gonna be extremely overpriced, i thought at least the set itself would be good for what it is. That you could buy it with a good conscious at a certain price point. But boy, does it have some structural flaws. For such a compact scale, it is just unacceptable. The downscaling is supposed to work in favor of the set's stability... not against. Downright shocking. And now i need to find my jaw again. Edited July 5 by BrickPrick Quote
LemonFlavouredBleach Posted July 5 Posted July 5 You know a set is bad when even Solid Brix gets this mad lol. If you’re gonna downscale a set to hell, at least make sure it has structural integrity. Quote
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