LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

Re: everyone saying it makes sense that lego's putting multiple price points for the same set out at the same time:

Sure, but what do they gain from this that they wouldn't from just releasing a different set? It's not like there's a shortage of vehicles people want in this franchise. You have to admit there's SOME percentage of people who don't want to buy multiple versions of the same vehicle- even at different price points- so unless there's a percentage of people who are ONLY buying both BECAUSE they're coming out at nearly the same time, it doesn't really make sense for lego to do this. 

People are bringing up previous UCS sets, and I'll just point out- The TIE and X-wing both came in two-packs with other vehicles, with completely different figure setups between them. The Republic Gunship a recolor (again with a completely different figure setup), came two full years later, and is a direct part of the clone frenzy, coming with a new legion. Neither of these seem all that similar to lego releasing the exact same ship in the exact same color scheme as a straight downscale with 2/3 of the exact same 

Lego is for kids and used to be the odd set for adults, now it’s mainly adults. If they are going to do Jango fett figure makes sense to do it in one year. It’s not like Mandolorian or Darth Vader where he is going to be used every year until eternity. I get your point really do. It is strange to get it in the same year but I’m kind of glad they did. UCS sets are out of a lot of people’s budgets, especially kids, kids can like Jango fett to, I couldn’t afford the og slave 1 back in 2002 or 3 when it came out and I can’t afford the UCS one now so to get one in a cheapish category I’m over the moon. 

[Mandalorianknight]

39 minutes ago, Shiva said:

Ahhh, the playset. Well, most of the starfighers are minifig scale. I assume you mean 75301 sized starfighter sets.

I do like the 75301 scale/size, which I don't think Jango's ship here fits with, but I meant literally speaking the ship is smaller than a good chunk of their starfighter sets. Like if you put it next to the most recent Obi-Wan's delta-7, it's laughable how close they are in size.

30 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said:

This year is the 20 years anniversary of Revenge of thr Sith. The movie was also shown again in the cinema. For me it makes sense that Lego release Jango's ship for the adults and also for the kids in this year. It fits the triology, it is partially a rerelease of the old UCS Slave 1 as an updated version from Jango instead from Boba. And Lego already have the playscale version and just need to recolour this. Which I think is a cheapter production process than creating an new set.

What does Revenge of the Sith have to do with Jango's Slave One?

Also, absolutely not the case- especially for a set that small, the design process is not the expensive part of the production process.

11 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Lego is for kids and used to be the odd set for adults, now it’s mainly adults. If they are going to do Jango fett figure makes sense to do it in one year. It’s not like Mandolorian or Darth Vader where he is going to be used every year until eternity. I get your point really do. It is strange to get it in the same year but I’m kind of glad they did. UCS sets are out of a lot of people’s budgets, especially kids, kids can like Jango fett to, I couldn’t afford the og slave 1 back in 2002 or 3 when it came out and I can’t afford the UCS one now so to get one in a cheapish category I’m over the moon. 

I mean, at that point, why not do a microfighter to make him and his ship even more affordable? Why not put jango in a tank droid? 

Edited June 8 by Mandalorianknight

[Llewop]

2 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I mean, at that point, why not do a microfighter to make him and his ship even more affordable? Why not put jango in a tank droid? 

Would have been a better route the micro fighter just for the figure but not everyone wants the figure. Some may want both in a decent size. Ships that get the UCS treatment should also eventually be released as a system set and they do in the most part just not in the same year but whenever they come I don’t see it as a problem. If it’s released in the summer or even in 2026/2027 they will still be on the shelf at the same time. Is it such an issue because for you this summer is not for you set wise and I get the frustration. I’ve had that for years now and tbh it’s saved me quite a lot of money and let me focus on other themes. 

[TheScaryDoor]

4 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

What does Revenge of the Sith have to do with Jango's Slave One?

Also, absolutely not the case- especially for a set that small, the design process is not the expensive part of the production process.

The ship is part of the Triology. And kids have or should watch the two first movies before seeing the last in the cinema. E.g. AFOL parent watches the "Star Wars memory movie as a child" again in the cinema now with their children. The parent buys the UCS set and the children get the playset. 

[Virginia_Bricks]

28 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Lego is for kids and used to be the odd set for adults, now it’s mainly adults. If they are going to do Jango fett figure makes sense to do it in one year. It’s not like Mandolorian or Darth Vader where he is going to be used every year until eternity. I get your point really do. It is strange to get it in the same year but I’m kind of glad they did. UCS sets are out of a lot of people’s budgets, especially kids, kids can like Jango fett to, I couldn’t afford the og slave 1 back in 2002 or 3 when it came out and I can’t afford the UCS one now so to get one in a cheapish category I’m over the moon. 

Lego is still mainly for kids, its just that Star Wars Lego is mainly for adults now.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 minute ago, TheScaryDoor said:

The ship is part of the Triology. And kids have or should watch the two first movies before seeing the last in the cinema. E.g. AFOL parent watches the "Star Wars memory movie as a child" again in the cinema now with their children. The parent buys the UCS set and the children get the playset. 

I really am not understanding here. Because it's the 20th anniversary of revenge of the sith, it's important for lego to make two versions of a ship from the previous movie? At what point could you just say that about literally anything from the franchise? Wouldn't it make more sense to make something that's actually from the movie having the anniversary, if that was why they did it?

3 minutes ago, Llewop said:

Would have been a better route the micro fighter just for the figure but not everyone wants the figure. Some may want both in a decent size. Ships that get the UCS treatment should also eventually be released as a system set and they do in the most part just not in the same year but whenever they come I don’t see it as a problem. If it’s released in the summer or even in 2026/2027 they will still be on the shelf at the same time. Is it such an issue because for you this summer is not for you set wise and I get the frustration. I’ve had that for years now and tbh it’s saved me quite a lot of money and let me focus on other themes. 

I guess I have three points here

1. I don't think this is a decent size for this ship. 

2. As I've said before, usually there is at minimum a year or so's gap between the UCS and playscale versions, which even if the UCS one is still on shelves makes more sense than releasing them at practically the same time, and more importantly, usually if a playscale ship is released within a few years after a UCS one, there are almost always some significant differences, such as the color or the ship being included alongside another vehicle of the same size. This is a straight downscale, even two of the three characters included are the same as in the UCS version.

3. Sure, I'm not happy with this year of the theme, but if you'll notice I suggested it being replaced with another prequel set that the past versions of have had clones in. I don't need to invent reasons to be disappointed in this year of the theme.

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think they'll downsize the AT-AT much, if at all. No clones to spend all the budget on.

If they don't downsize it, it will probably be $200 which is the inflation adjusted price of the 2020 set.

[Shiva]

55 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I do like the 75301 scale/size, which I don't think Jango's ship here fits with, but I meant literally speaking the ship is smaller than a good chunk of their starfighter sets. Like if you put it next to the most recent Obi-Wan's delta-7, it's laughable how close they are in size.

Delta-7? 75333 , that one is +25% bigger than the ideal minifig scale. Jango's UCS, is.. maybe 15-17% smaller than ideal minifig scale, I do not have exact measurements for it. I guess you are now talking about Jango's UCS and not the playscale Slave1.

75301, is, about 4% smaller than perfect ideal scale.

 

[CloneCommando99]

12 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

If they don't downsize it, it will probably be $200 which is the inflation adjusted price of the 2020 set.

+ whatever Tariffs will be in effect for the US as of 2026.

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think they'll downsize the AT-AT much, if at all. No clones to spend all the budget on.

I’d hope it’s not downsized, but there’s a 90% chance it will. Hopefully we can get some minifig scale imperial ground vehicles like the ITT soon.

56 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Lego is still mainly for kids, it’s just that Star Wars Lego is mainly for adults now.

It honestly hurts seeing the LSW I grew up loving be twisted and manipulated into something entirely different.

8 hours ago, Skiffle said:

New Razor Crest is coming

Listen, I know you’re right. But this is like the safest bet you could take for a set next year. It’s like saying the cancelled Rogue Squadron movie would have an X-Wing set tie-in. The Razor Crest is the titular characters’ ship in the movie, of course it’s getting made.

That being said, you are right.

[BrickBob Studpants]

9 hours ago, Skiffle said:

New Razor Crest is coming

We've seen many many frauds over the years here on EB alone, so of course people are sceptical whenever someone new starts dropping rumours  You're right in that trust must be built, as every established leaker has started from scratch! One has to start somewhere, after all! However, as others have pointed out, we would need more specifics before we can trust your info. Something that goes well beyond what anyone could guess just by watching the M&G trailers 

[kuzyabricks]

Got my hands on a 2008 gunship for around $140. Will pair it with some of the new republic sets as my interest has peaked with battlefront 2. Any chance we might get a UCS turbo tank? I have always wanted one, it would be my first UCS starwars set. And any chance for a proper gunship rather than that ugly maroon one?

[Nobricksleft]

12 hours ago, Skiffle said:

New Razor Crest is coming

Sigh, can't wait to see how small they make it. 

Lego: challenge accepted.

Edited June 9 by Nobricksleft

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

If they don't downsize it, it will probably be $200 which is the inflation adjusted price of the 2020 set.

Oof. Maybe they will a bit then to get it down to that $180 price point the evil falcon was. 

3 hours ago, Shiva said:

Delta-7? 75333 , that one is +25% bigger than the ideal minifig scale. Jango's UCS, is.. maybe 15-17% smaller than ideal minifig scale, I do not have exact measurements for it. I guess you are now talking about Jango's UCS and not the playscale Slave1.

75301, is, about 4% smaller than perfect ideal scale.

 

No, I'm talking about the system playset, I did not start talking about the UCS set whilst saying I think the system one is too small. Every comment I've made about this has been about the system set. The one you're replying to directly calls out the set number of the 2021 system X-wing playset. Let me be extremely clear about what I am saying- One of the reasons I do not like the 2025 system Jango Fett Slave One Playset, the $70 one, is because I feel it is too downsized compared to other system playsets, such as starfighters. I'm not sure what I'm saying that's confusing people into thinking that I'm talking about the UCS set.

3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

It’s like saying the cancelled Rogue Squadron movie would have an X-Wing set tie-in.

Ironically, if someone claimed back then there was a Rogue Squadron tie-in X-wing coming, they would in fact be wrong. Not that it really has any bearing on anything but it's funny.

[Skiffle]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't think they'll downsize the AT-AT

They will.

[Darth_Bane13]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Oof. Maybe they will a bit then to get it down to that $180 price point the evil falcon was. 

Yeah I could see it being like the 2010 one which is the smallest of the AT-AT's.

[Shiva]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

No, I'm talking about the system playset, I did not start talking about the UCS set whilst saying I think the system one is too small. Every comment I've made about this has been about the system set. The one you're replying to directly calls out the set number of the 2021 system X-wing playset. Let me be extremely clear about what I am saying- One of the reasons I do not like the 2025 system Jango Fett Slave One Playset, the $70 one, is because I feel it is too downsized compared to other system playsets, such as starfighters. I'm not sure what I'm saying that's confusing people into thinking that I'm talking about the UCS set.

Ahh, that one. 75433 playset, seems to be the same size as 75312 playset tho. Should it been the same size as 8097 / 75243, then?

[CloneCommando99]

Day #46 of anticipating a Tie Avenger.

2 hours ago, Skiffle said:

They will.

Yes.

1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah I could see it being like the 2010 one which is the smallest of the AT-AT's.

Maybe. Or they do a Turbo Tank and make it even smaller. Wouldn’t that be funny?

[BrickPrick]

16 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

The ship is part of the Triology. And kids have or should watch the two first movies before seeing the last in the cinema. E.g. AFOL parent watches the "Star Wars memory movie as a child" again in the cinema now with their children. The parent buys the UCS set and the children get the playset. 

Yeah... no. Other than the last part, that doesn't seem to make much sense. 

9 hours ago, Shiva said:

Ahh, that one. 75433 playset, seems to be the same size as 75312 playset tho. Should it been the same size as 8097 / 75243, then?

Considering 75243 is the best play scale Slave 1 ever made... yes. 

8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Maybe. Or they do a Turbo Tank and make it even smaller. Wouldn’t that be funny?

Imagine they do exactly that without releasing a TIE Avenger in the meantime... Now how funny would that be? 

[TheScaryDoor]

1 hour ago, BrickPrick said:

Yeah... no. Other than the last part, that doesn't seem to make much sense. 

I tried to say that Jango's Ship is one of the iconic ones of the prequel triology and Lego is having a clone year which I guess is also impacted by the anniversary of RotS from the PT. Makes sense to bring the set as an UCS and than also add this one again as an playscale set, which already is on the marked just in another colour (low hanging fruit).

Of course Lego could use the slot for something else but whats remaining from the PT which wasn't already released in the last years?

[BrickPrick]

14 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said:

I tried to say that Jango's Ship is one of the iconic ones of the prequel triology and Lego is having a clone year which I guess is also impacted by the anniversary of RotS from the PT. Makes sense to bring the set as an UCS and than also add this one again as an playscale set, which already is on the marked just in another colour (low hanging fruit).

Of course Lego could use the slot for something else but whats remaining from the PT which wasn't already released in the last years?

Now we are getting somewhere. I do think it makes sense for Lego to have both the UCS and play scale model of the Slave 1 available on shelves at the same time. I just don't think they needed to be released just a mere three months from each other (not that i'm complaining) and i still doubt it got anything to do with the 20th anniversary of Episode III.

It might be less about what already released in the last years and more like what they never made to this day. The PT is a true treasure trove in terms of varied ship designs. 

[Mandalorianknight]

18 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah I could see it being like the 2010 one which is the smallest of the AT-AT's.

Which would be about $160 today, so let's assume $180 for lego these days- I could see it. That's a good call on your part. At 2025 detail I don't think it'd be a particularly bad set, either.

19 hours ago, Skiffle said:

They will.

I did amend my thoughts and said I think they will after @Darth_Bane13 pointed out the 2020 one would be $200 now. 

18 hours ago, Shiva said:

Ahh, that one. 75433 playset, seems to be the same size as 75312 playset tho. Should it been the same size as 8097 / 75243, then?

Yeah, sure, or even a bit smaller if they needed it, my point is that slave one should not be smaller than half of lego's starfighters. 

6 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said:

I tried to say that Jango's Ship is one of the iconic ones of the prequel triology and Lego is having a clone year which I guess is also impacted by the anniversary of RotS from the PT. Makes sense to bring the set as an UCS and than also add this one again as an playscale set, which already is on the marked just in another colour (low hanging fruit).

Of course Lego could use the slot for something else but whats remaining from the PT which wasn't already released in the last years?

But I ask again, why? If the anniversary is what impacted this, why would it not be a ship featured in that movie?

Edited June 9 by Mandalorianknight

[Darth_Bane13]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Which would be about $160 today, so let's assume $180 for lego these days- I could see it. That's a good call on your part. At 2025 detail I don't think it'd be a particularly bad set, either.

Yeah I have the 2010 set and I always felt it was still a pretty good size with a decent interior. They would probably have to go back to one driver in the cockpit though. Hopefully we also get a new snow speeder with that new cockpit piece, and also they need to use the correct rebel pilot jumpsuits for Hoth again.

[AD_Bricks]

9 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Hopefully we also get a new snow speeder with that new cockpit piece, and also they need to use the correct rebel pilot jumpsuits for Hoth again.

Ya, it would be pretty good timing for a new (normal, not hot rod) snowspeeder, even if the AT-AT is based on M&G

[CloneCommando99]

15 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

Imagine they do exactly that without releasing a TIE Avenger in the meantime... Now how funny would that be? 

We fight to win. That means we lose, and lose, and lose until we’re ready.

(Day #47 of Tie Avenger searching)

[Swordy]

On 6/6/2025 at 1:11 PM, BrickPrick said:

One thing does not have to rule out the other. Lego knows the market, yes. They obviously know a Clone Turbo Tank will be a popular choice for people out there. But how would an even higher price point affect those sales? Can they get away with it just fine? They won't know unless they try! That's where the test ballon comes into play. Like they also knew after nearly two decades the X-Wing is one of their evergreen sets that is always supposed to sit on shelves. Yet that didn't stop them to suddenly crank up the price by 20 Euros... Bada bing, bada boom, test ballon. 

That wasn’t my point. It was that a CTT with Galatatic Marines would sell well regardless of price. Cranking up the price on a clone set isn’t a stretch when hundreds a year spend upwards of double, yea, triple a retired set’s original retail value. Regardless of how the aftermarket works, it is a sample of the most financially devoted LSW fans, and TLG isn’t ignoring it any more. (Who’s to say they never were?) It’s marketing research in real time with actual potential consumers.

A test implies risk. There is not much risk here, in my oh so humble opinion.

At the very least, TLG makes most of their money off the initial Day 1 buyers and the people who don’t want to miss out before it retires. The clearance deals in between are managed by the retailers and out of their pocket, not TLG, who’ve already made their money. (I’ll a bit unsure on the specifics of that last sentence, regardless my point still stands.)

On 6/6/2025 at 1:11 PM, BrickPrick said:

I was basically saying if Lego keeps the current pace in which they release TCW sets, the OT resurgence has to happen sooner or later.

I'd love some more PT sets as well. It has to be a possibility to release some outside of anniversaries (where you still get fairly few) every now and then. Like i said earlier, not everything around the PT has to based on Clones. How many people, who think this year to be the worst in Lego Star Wars history (although that was before the big leaks) would be more satisfied with that, i don't know. 

The current pace? As in exponentially increasing the number of CW sets released?
OT resurgence… to think those words would ever have to be uttered. (Not directly toward you, but toward the archenemy of THELEGOBATMAN as per the DC Thread, LEGO.)

People who would think this year to be the worst, as you say, are those who’d more likely than not value variety in a lineup. The PT is underrepresented—not that it’s undeserved, since the OT literally has the Star Wars—and whose representation would have more interesting aspects like various new minifigs as opposed to but a handful, or fresh new vehicles under various factions and groups compared to, say, re-releasing a set from a few years back that’s the significantly downscaled version of the current year’s UCS set—not to point fingers or name names, mind you. Other sets this summer fall into that same category, which I feel is born of creative bankruptcy than ingenuity.

On 6/6/2025 at 7:14 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I can think of one other reason we might get Doom over Nemik in 2026. Or Doom over most clones of the same tier of obscurity, for that matter.

 

Yup. I really hope I'm wrong, but I think there's enough people following the "no matter how relentlessly we complain we must buy 200,000 copies of every set involving clones" youtubers that it'll sell enough copies despite the absurd price.

What other reason? Is there an anniversary of which I am unaware? It’s probably the 16th anniversary of Season 3 of TCW, isn’t it? I expect Aqua Droids and those Hydro-Clones to accompany the celebration, then. Otherwise, it’s concrete proof that LEGO hates their fans.

Complaints pay for the armies about which they complain. It’s a symbiotic circle that is shared between the Gungan LEGO Group and the Naboo Clone Bros.

On 6/8/2025 at 5:02 PM, Shiva said:

75301, is, about 4% smaller than perfect ideal scale.

Ha. All you haters out there, belittling the $50 X-Wing for being too small, too skinny, that Artoo sits too high… Well, hot take: 75218 < 75301. (I realize they’re the same size, yes—which is why the 37-44% cheaper model is vastly better for kids and adult collectors alike.)

On 6/7/2025 at 9:11 AM, Llewop said:

I’d argue we need Lego to focus on making cheaper sets more at the £22 point lol.

Word. Seconded. ‘Nuff said.

Edited June 10 by Swordy