LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Shiva]

On 1/17/2025 at 3:16 AM, icm said:

I believe I've written an essay about it in another thread on this site, but, with all due respect, you entirely missed the point if you think that Luke didn't die a meaningful death as a heroic sacrifice after showing up to fight Kylo and defeating the First Order, because that's exactly what he did. As Luke might say, "every single word you just said was wrong."

I agree with this. Luke did die a heroic death.

SM-33, would be nice to get it. Could it be possible that the CGI model was not finished in time, for LEGO to implement him? Well, let´s hope SM-33 pops up in some other set.

Stub Fighter. LEGO did it correctly. I remember seeing posts, back when it was announced, that LEGO modeled it wrong. Even saw MOC's on how it should have been made.

Ohhh, RTG = Rebuild The Galaxy,

 

[Darth_Bane13]

39 minutes ago, Flieger said:

People did talk about it negatively. A lot. Especially compared to the original Thrawn trilogy.

It did not generate much fuss because it was merely an EU comic book with no impact on the main story, to be ignored at your leisure (C-Canon). On the other hand, Rise of Skywalker is the culmination of a much anticipated trilogy, fully canonical, not to be ignored, and produced with a near infinite budget that should have provided for some decent writing - or, at the very least, a little better than some EU comic from the early 90ies - but did not. Obviously the disppointment is greater in case of RoS.

Kinda weird to compare the impact of these two, imho.

At least Dark empire actually attempted to explain how Palpatine returned

[Brickwraith]

11 minutes ago, Shiva said:

SM-33, would be nice to get it. Could it be possible that the CGI model was not finished in time, for LEGO to implement him? Well, let´s hope SM-33 pops up in some other set.

 

33 was done practically, and even if it was CG, lego bases most of their sets off concept art anyway.

It was more likely a mold cost problem since they already made neel, as others have suggested

[Meaf]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yes, there‘s one unknown playset still. All we know about it is that we shouldn‘t expect much out of it

This description bugs me because like, anything could be interesting to anyone depending on what it is. I'm just going to assume the worst and expect another Landspeeder but honestly even if it's a remake, there are tons of sets that could use one at this point. I guess vague descriptions are just the name of the game in the leaks biz though.

[Rwbricks]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Yes, there‘s one unknown playset still. All we know about it is that we shouldn‘t expect much out of it

Aren’t there two, 75428 and 75433? I could very well have missed if something was said about one of them not coming/being known. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Well, I did use VIP points, but there was a black friday deal to get $15 of VIP points for practically nothing. Probably used $3-4 of points in total, so more like $6 or $7. 

You just have to wait and watch- there's a lot of store specific stuff you can't see online. I use a reddit (ew, I know), r/legodeal to see receipts and price stickers of what's going on sale at other locations to know what to look for. For instance, right now a lot of Walmarts in the US have the Onyx Cinder, Coruscant Gunship, and Dark Falcon for $75 each. (No luck near me, of course, only one I've got is the $50 YJA set down to like $16.5, which is a third of the price but somehow still doesn't feel worth it?) I've also seen X-jets for as low as $15 reported. And I've personally picked up a $25 marvel set for $12.

The HVCw A9.2 from Mando still has 10 pretty big wheels and just looking at the geometry, I really can't see how a $50 in 2025 version would work. Those middle segments would have to be like two studs thick. It's also unarmed, so I think regardless of the RTG rumors we can rule it out completely.

Not to get into the quality of projects approach again but the quantity is definitely something interesting for lego, because there's now so much out there that some projects realistically probably just won't be revisited in any real capacity.

I used the 15$ worth of points from Black Friday for the 60$ Tumbler, 45$ just seems like the price it should have been, and for what you said about Quantity, this is unrelated but I feel like Lego is making too much sets, like there's too much to collect, it's bad for the wallet and shelf space, I think Lego needs to cut down on the amount of sets they make

[CloneCommando99]

22 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

Aren’t there two, 75428 and 75433? I could very well have missed if something was said about one of them not coming/being known. 

One of them is an unknown ship. The other is another buildable droid.

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I used the 15$ worth of points from Black Friday for the 60$ Tumbler, 45$ just seems like the price it should have been, and for what you said about Quantity, this is unrelated but I feel like Lego is making too much sets, like there's too much to collect, it's bad for the wallet and shelf space, I think Lego needs to cut down on the amount of sets they make

Have to strongly disagree on that. If there's more sets than I can afford or make space for, I just choose the ones I'd rather have. Lego releasing 10 sets I'd want and I can only get 5 is better to me than Lego releasing 2 sets I'd want. (Or this year, where my current plan is to buy one (1) 2025 star wars set)

3 hours ago, Meaf said:

This description bugs me because like, anything could be interesting to anyone depending on what it is. I'm just going to assume the worst and expect another Landspeeder but honestly even if it's a remake, there are tons of sets that could use one at this point. I guess vague descriptions are just the name of the game in the leaks biz though.

My guess is it's one of the following three:

RTG set with the new OCs rather than something like Jedi Vader.

Another clone set, but it's the 501st again.

It's a buildable, not a playset.

[Lego Nostalgia]

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Have to strongly disagree on that. If there's more sets than I can afford or make space for, I just choose the ones I'd rather have. Lego releasing 10 sets I'd want and I can only get 5 is better to me than Lego releasing 2 sets I'd want. (Or this year, where my current plan is to buy one (1) 2025 star wars set)

My guess is it's one of the following three:

RTG set with the new OCs rather than something like Jedi Vader.

Another clone set, but it's the 501st again.

It's a buildable, not a playset.

Well I only buy sets I need/want, and thankfully there's more mechs,buildable characters and helmet/midi scale than actual playsets with figures

So I only have to buy the playset or UCS sets

Problem is though is there's so many sets for different themes, I like Icons,Batman,Marvel and Star Wars, there's new sets coming out every year it's so hard to keep up with it 

Fear of missing out is another thing, I'm an idiot for buying sets day 1 of release like the Ahsoka's Interceptor, I don't have patience to wait

Thankfully with UCS/D2C sets we have at least 2,3 or more years to have a chance to get them before they retire

[Rwbricks]

22 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

One of them is an unknown ship. The other is another buildable droid.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I should have known only one of them would be a regular system set.  

[MaximillianRebo]

On 1/19/2025 at 8:14 AM, Meaf said:

This description bugs me because like, anything could be interesting to anyone depending on what it is. I'm just going to assume the worst and expect another Landspeeder but honestly even if it's a remake, there are tons of sets that could use one at this point. I guess vague descriptions are just the name of the game in the leaks biz though.

I agree completely. Take the main OT Rebel ships, it's only being the X-Wing that's readily available; 8 years since an OT Y-Wing and 6 years since any variant of that ship, similar numbers for the A-Wing and over a decade for the B-Wing. TIEs have had a good run recently and it's only the TIE Advanced remaining, but prior to the last couple of years there were big gaps in the TIE lineup for anyone who hadn't been in the game for 20+ years. It's even been 5 years since the last Landspeeder...

Sure there are completionists who have one of every vehicle ever released up to this point, but that's only a tiny fraction of the overall market.

[Ringwraith]

Howdy folks, I may be a lil' bit behind on this but I keep seeing everywhere on 100% reliable sources (reddit and instagram) that we're expecting a whole wave of Clone Wars stuff like an MTT, UT-AT, V-19 etc etc. Does this actually have merit or is it just the usual reddit & instagram reliability 

[Meaf]

5 hours ago, MaximillianRebo said:

I agree completely. Take the main OT Rebel ships, it's only being the X-Wing that's readily available; 8 years since an OT Y-Wing and 6 years since any variant of that ship, similar numbers for the A-Wing and over a decade for the B-Wing. TIEs have had a good run recently and it's only the TIE Advanced remaining, but prior to the last couple of years there were big gaps in the TIE lineup for anyone who hadn't been in the game for 20+ years. It's even been 5 years since the last Landspeeder...

Sure there are completionists who have one of every vehicle ever released up to this point, but that's only a tiny fraction of the overall market.

Yeah, honestly I'd be fine with a remake if it's something we haven't seen in a while. I'm not getting my expectations up since that's literally what the leak said but I'm not convinced it's going to be worthless yet.

24 minutes ago, Ringwraith said:

Howdy folks, I may be a lil' bit behind on this but I keep seeing everywhere on 100% reliable sources (reddit and instagram) that we're expecting a whole wave of Clone Wars stuff like an MTT, UT-AT, V-19 etc etc. Does this actually have merit or is it just the usual reddit & instagram reliability 

It's been confirmed by most of the big leakers, so I'd say it's about as reliable as can get until we get official confirmation. I think there's probably a complete list floating around somewhere if you're interested.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

2 hours ago, Ringwraith said:

Howdy folks, I may be a lil' bit behind on this but I keep seeing everywhere on 100% reliable sources (reddit and instagram) that we're expecting a whole wave of Clone Wars stuff like an MTT, UT-AT, V-19 etc etc. Does this actually have merit or is it just the usual reddit & instagram reliability 

Yeah, that's the August wave. Besides the January one already being mostly Clone Wars stuff, and the May and June one consisting almost entirely of gimmicks (helmets, microfighters, buildable figures), it turns out the August one (the main one of the year) is 80% Clone Wars and buildable figures.

(Which made plenty of people here annoyed, because Clones are cool and all, but we're at a point where there's a visible overload of those.)

The rumours are all reliable, except the Turbo Tank, which some leakers are unsure about. Anyway, here's a list (just for August though—we're still getting eight sets in May, three in June, an Advent Calendar in September, and a 1000€ Death Star in October):

75413 UT-AT (150€, 813 pcs; includes two Galactic Marines)

75414 Turbo Tank / Rebuild the Galaxy set (50€, 349 pcs)

75417 AT-ST [18+] (200€, 1513 pcs)

76428 ??? (???, ???)

75430 Buildable Ewok (90€, ???)

75431 327th Star Corp Battle Pack (40€, 258 pcs)

75432 V-19 Torrent Starfighter (60€, 537 pcs; includes three minifigures—Asajj Ventress, a Phase I Clone Pilot, and possibly Obi-Wan Kenobi)

75433 Ship (???, ???)

75434 Buildable K-2SO (90€, ???)

75435 MTT (150€, ???; based on Clone Wars with a blue and white colour scheme)

So as you can see, at least half their sets in August are based on Clone Wars.

Edited January 20 by THELEGOBATMAN

[BrickBob Studpants]

33 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

75417 AT-ST [18+] (200€, 1513 pcs)

FTFY

Also, there‘s another buildable droid coming. Must be 76428!

[THELEGOBATMAN]

8 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

FTFY

Also, there‘s another buildable droid coming. Must be 76428!

Right, my bad.

As for the other part... you... you can't be serious, right? Another buildable figure? Where did this rumour even come from?

[BrickBob Studpants]

21 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

As for the other part... you... you can't be serious, right? Another buildable figure? Where did this rumour even come from?

Same source that claimed 75433 is a ship, I think! The most likely option is a BB-8 remake, in my opinion. The last one (which started the current trend) is already more than 7 years old, and with the anniversary of TFA, it would only make sense  Either that or a B1.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

59 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Same source that claimed 75433 is a ship, I think! The most likely option is a BB-8 remake, in my opinion. The last one (which started the current trend) is already more than 7 years old, and with the anniversary of TFA, it would only make sense  Either that or a B1.

You know what... I'd actually like a buildable B1 figure.

But the problem is, this our... what, fifth buildable figure of 2025? It's just ridiculous, and I honestly have no idea why they sell so well—unless LEGO just makes them out of spite to us. 

Edited January 20 by THELEGOBATMAN

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

You know what... I'd actually like a buildable B1 figure.

But the problem is, this our... what, fifth buildable figure of 2025? It's just ridiculous, and I honestly have no idea why they sell so well—unless LEGO just makes them out of spite to us. 

They're selling well because they aren't selling them to us, they're selling them to adults who aren't necessarily big lego fans. People who might think the playsets with minifigs are too kiddy, but are open to buying the 18+ branded display sets. It started out as a smart short-term move as it digs into a market that previously wasn't there- while the UCS sets were marketed to adults, being multi-hundred dollars and taking up massive amounts of space meant it was generally pretty hardcore fans buying them anyway- but I think this approach, much like the clone domination, is going to hurt them in the long run. With the buildables, the more casual buyers, the ones who want to stick to 18+, probably aren't going to get more than a few- if you own 20 lego sets, at that point I think whatever block you had about the playsets is going away- so putting out this many, especially in such a short timeframe, is going to hurt them.

Edit: And that's to the extent that they are selling well. Obviously that's not a guarantee- the droid builder set, for instance, is not doing too hot at the moment (Which may also be because it's got all the accessories that obviously don't fit in-universe, meaning you now have a $100 set on shelves with no minifigs one exclusive but not all that interesting minifig or play features for kids, but that many non-Afol adults would find gimmicky or childish.)

Edited January 20 by Mandalorianknight

[Kit Figsto]

4 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

They're selling well because they aren't selling them to us, they're selling them to adults who aren't necessarily big lego fans.

I think they're basically the pop-culture version of the flower/buildable object series.  I'm on the young end of AFOLs - I think I'm considered an old Gen Z or very young Millennial, but I never really had a "dark ages" - I've just been into LEGO ever since I first got into it as a kid and never stopped.  However, I know people my age that buy a lot of the flowers or plant life sets and aren't necessarily even LEGO fans.  It's become a lot more socially normal for younger adults to be into LEGO in a way that it might've been seen as "weird" ten years ago, and I think these buildable objects are a reflection of that.  If someone likes the idea of a displayable LEGO object but doesn't want a flower bouquet or whatever, a buildable R2-D2 or Mandalorian helmet would be a pretty cool display piece on a desk.

Now, am I surprised that they've sold THIS well, enough to warrant the amount that we're getting?  Absolutely.

[Tariq j]

1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said:

I think they're basically the pop-culture version of the flower/buildable object series.  I'm on the young end of AFOLs - I think I'm considered an old Gen Z or very young Millennial, but I never really had a "dark ages" - I've just been into LEGO ever since I first got into it as a kid and never stopped.  However, I know people my age that buy a lot of the flowers or plant life sets and aren't necessarily even LEGO fans.  It's become a lot more socially normal for younger adults to be into LEGO in a way that it might've been seen as "weird" ten years ago, and I think these buildable objects are a reflection of that.  If someone likes the idea of a displayable LEGO object but doesn't want a flower bouquet or whatever, a buildable R2-D2 or Mandalorian helmet would be a pretty cool display piece on a desk.

Now, am I surprised that they've sold THIS well, enough to warrant the amount that we're getting?  Absolutely.

Yeah, this is similar to my experience. To Lego’s credit they’ve definitely tried to expand their reach beyond the usual AFOL target demographic and it’s worked really well. Things like the buildable helmets, buildable figures, even the diorama sets do really appeal to people who aren’t usually into Lego far more than play sets do. And you see that in other themes too like Harry Potter and Marvel. 

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said:

I think they're basically the pop-culture version of the flower/buildable object series.  I'm on the young end of AFOLs - I think I'm considered an old Gen Z or very young Millennial, but I never really had a "dark ages" - I've just been into LEGO ever since I first got into it as a kid and never stopped.  However, I know people my age that buy a lot of the flowers or plant life sets and aren't necessarily even LEGO fans.  It's become a lot more socially normal for younger adults to be into LEGO in a way that it might've been seen as "weird" ten years ago, and I think these buildable objects are a reflection of that.  If someone likes the idea of a displayable LEGO object but doesn't want a flower bouquet or whatever, a buildable R2-D2 or Mandalorian helmet would be a pretty cool display piece on a desk.

Now, am I surprised that they've sold THIS well, enough to warrant the amount that we're getting?  Absolutely.

For sure. Not to get too specific on my age, but my shift from high school to college was in the same general timeframe as the lego's focus on the 18+ sets, and it went from barely anyone owning lego to a ton of dorm rooms having some sets, male and female, regardless of major. A BIG chunk of that is 18+/icons, too, though at least from the engineers there's plenty of people with TIE bombers or clone battle packs on their desks. A number of my coworkers at an engineering firm also own lego, though again it's generally sticking to 18+/icons.

I'm not necessarily surprised they've done this well (well, maybe to the extent of the coverage this year I am, but from 2020-2024 not really), as it's not like they're squeezing more out of a market that was already buying legos- they've broken into an entirely new one. But I think increasing the proportion of sets in a theme that are 18+ is a bad move (and not just because I like the system sets and would like to have some playset options besides clones)- you can only put so many things on your desk, and as you go more obscure, there'll start to be a dropoff. Most people who buy Chopper probably watched the rebels cartoon, meaning they're probably buying lego star wars already. The Acclamator can get by off being essentially a star destroyer, but the Invisible Hand saw some pretty massive sales half a year after release (It was 40% off at pretty much all targets for quite some time, though it appears to have returned to $50 at least online)

I think we can piece together an overall strategy for lego from stuff like this and the clone dominance- if something works for them, they go all-in, to the exclusion of anything else. As I've said before there's certainly some logic to that idea, but to the extreme that they're taking it I don't think it's a good move financially, and of course it's not great for fans who aren't exclusively into the 18+ sublines or clone troopers. Now it'd be a mistake to do the inverse as well, of course- there's no scenario where it makes sense for lego to try to give all parts of the franchise equal coverage, no matter the unpopularity or obscurity- but I do think making it so it's more along the lines of 1/3 OT, 1/3 PT/TCW, 1/3 Other isn't a bad idea for years without a new movie. And then maybe scaling back the ratio of playsets to 18+ sets to something like 3 playsets for every 18+ set.

[Brickwraith]

48 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

For sure. Not to get too specific on my age, but my shift from high school to college was in the same general timeframe as the lego's focus on the 18+ sets, and it went from barely anyone owning lego to a ton of dorm rooms having some sets, male and female, regardless of major. A BIG chunk of that is 18+/icons, too, though at least from the engineers there's plenty of people with TIE bombers or clone battle packs on their desks. A number of my coworkers at an engineering firm also own lego, though again it's generally sticking to 18+/icons.

I'm not necessarily surprised they've done this well (well, maybe to the extent of the coverage this year I am, but from 2020-2024 not really), as it's not like they're squeezing more out of a market that was already buying legos- they've broken into an entirely new one. But I think increasing the proportion of sets in a theme that are 18+ is a bad move (and not just because I like the system sets and would like to have some playset options besides clones)- you can only put so many things on your desk, and as you go more obscure, there'll start to be a dropoff. Most people who buy Chopper probably watched the rebels cartoon, meaning they're probably buying lego star wars already. The Acclamator can get by off being essentially a star destroyer, but the Invisible Hand saw some pretty massive sales half a year after release (It was 40% off at pretty much all targets for quite some time, though it appears to have returned to $50 at least online)

I think we can piece together an overall strategy for lego from stuff like this and the clone dominance- if something works for them, they go all-in, to the exclusion of anything else. As I've said before there's certainly some logic to that idea, but to the extreme that they're taking it I don't think it's a good move financially, and of course it's not great for fans who aren't exclusively into the 18+ sublines or clone troopers. Now it'd be a mistake to do the inverse as well, of course- there's no scenario where it makes sense for lego to try to give all parts of the franchise equal coverage, no matter the unpopularity or obscurity- but I do think making it so it's more along the lines of 1/3 OT, 1/3 PT/TCW, 1/3 Other isn't a bad idea for years without a new movie. And then maybe scaling back the ratio of playsets to 18+ sets to something like 3 playsets for every 18+ set.

I absolutely agree with all this. I wish Lego would just consider 18+ its own theme with it's own budget rather than having it cut into the existing Star Wars budget. Clearly they were selling sets well long before 18+ took half a wave, and I have to assume they are going to start loosing some of their old sales as their individual years get less varied like this year or last.

[Brickwraith]

looks like we have further details for the battle packs.

75412 - 119 pieces - 2 death troopers 2 night troopers - patrol gunship build

75431 - 258 pieces - 4 clones 3 super battle droids - At-rt and spider droids for the builds

And 75428 is a buildable B1 for $100

Gotta say the buildable droid confirmation is a big disappointment

[Per_SW]

1 hour ago, Brickwraith said:

75431 - 258 pieces - 4 clones 3 super battle droids - At-rt and spider droids for the builds

I wonder if it's gonna be "oversized AT-RT + Dwarf Spider Droid" or "accurate size AT-RT + Regular Spider Droid". Hoping for the latter, dreading the former.