[OFFICIAL] LEGO Icons 10365 Black Pearl coming 15 Sep, 2025 - OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED

[Count Vroskri]

1 hour ago, F1stzz said:

Official LEGO account on Instagram replying to a comment asking "why Captain Jack Sparrow's Pirate Ship and not the Black Pearl?": "The name reflects an internal creative decision by The LEGO Group and The Walt Disney Company". Make what you will out of it 

although it was retconned I believe there was a piece of lore referring to the ship once being a slaver, I believe this was part of one of the books that where never really hard cannon, so same as the slave 1 I assume. 

[cehnot]

After seeing thw official reveal i am more convinced of buying the set and modifying it with 1 to 2 more center hull pieces. The Mod Your Bricks design figured out the profile proportions nicely and I think qe could all make a great mod combining the two designs. I am looking at widening the ship by 2 studs, but keep a similar profile shape closer to what MYB design did. Adding 2 more hulls will make it too narrow, but using my Barracuda hull design to widen it will make up for it. The key to the stern design is to lower it. Its too tall, but i think its possible and still retain the rudder function, even if its a different design. That way you can retain the long captain cabin interior. 

I think its best to design it in Studio and plan on that as my new winter project. The forecastle needs a longer Bowspirit, about 3 to 4 inches. With these changes the new ship should be about 34 inches long.

The goals for the project:

1. Retain the rudder/wheel function. Maybe using string like my barracuda

2. Retain cannon open function, maybe relocate play function from rear to quarter deck. I think you could turn the rotating function 90 degrees and make them barrels or even bilge pumps which exist near the main mast.

3. Open up the cabin. Clearly they use that space to keep angled walls up, but there has to be a better deaign like MYB did. 

4. Make the gun deck accessable.

5. Open up the forecastle and make an interior. 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by cehnot

[thewatchman]

2 minutes ago, Count Vroskri said:

although it was retconned I believe there was a piece of lore referring to the ship once being a slaver, I believe this was part of one of the books that where never really hard cannon, so same as the slave 1 I assume. 

For films that include the hanging of a child this is a ridiculous and arbitrary hill to die on.

[sahidko]

1 hour ago, kuzyabricks said:

I am baffled by how Lego keeps disappointing and dropping the ball...

… Either way I’m still buying this set day one...

This is your answer. :D

[kuzyabricks]

29 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

It could have been cheaper without the stand and under water hull

Agreed! Shame

Just now, sahidko said:

This is your answer. :D

People have always bought sets day one, quality used to be higher

[sahidko]

1 minute ago, kuzyabricks said:

Agreed! Shame

People have always bought sets day one, quality used to be higher

But if people are still buying sets day one after listing half a page of complaints then why would they care to deliver higher quality? :) Anyway, I just found it funny.

[_R_R_]

8 minutes ago, F1stzz said:

Despite the lack of detail, the shaping of the hull & the arrangement of the sails on 10365 is not only superior to any LEGO Pirates ship released to date (and most of the playable MOCs at that) – it's also a great, for the most part movie-accurate representation of the Black Pearl. From the looks of it, modifying the exterior is not a big deal, adding the tiles on the front wouldn't be a problem in the slightest – it's a matter of adding a dozen of parts. Same with mini statuettes, the ornament of the stern etc. The design you've shared on the picture doesn't even come close, frankly – if the stern was redesigned, nobody would be able to tell this model has anything in common with the Black Pearl aside from the colour scheme. Just grab the new set on a sale or with a discount & start from there, add all the bells & whistles to your vision & liking – you'll end up with a much better model this way, especially if there would be many MOCs based on it down the line to draw the inspiration from.

I agree, the official set has a much more accurate and beautiful shape but I could save a lot of money just combining the old set and barracuda with some parts I have. The best thing to do is wait for a discount but even then I don't see any way of modding in interiors with the way they've built it. The interior is probably a ton of blue, white, red and yellow bricks just holding everything together. I think that if someone was to mod in interiors they would have to find a way to redesign the structure on the interior and build 2 decks, also find a way to connect the cabin to the doors leading to it which seems very difficult because there's the rudder mechanism there holding everything together.

At the least the tiles on the bow and the bell are easy enough additions, and it's also missing skylight window above the cabin. I know the average person won't care but the missing details really suck, I should not have to add them myself for the price.

[thewatchman]

42 minutes ago, _R_R_ said:

The wall with carved tile patterns are also missing on the area behind the figurehead where the bowsprit is attached, something most MOCers also include, and even the old video game design had. the more I look at the ship the more disappointed I get, I'm almost tempted to just go back to my original plan of taking the original 4184 Black Pearl and the Barracuda and turn it into a Black Pearl with interiors like the brig and Jack's rum cellar. It would be much smaller and also have some inaccuracies but for the asking price I'm finding way too many inaccuracies and not enough interiors. Still can't believe Pintel and Ragetti were skipped in favor of Anamaria and Cotton or Marty, Zoe Saldana said she hated working on the first film so it just makes her inclusion all the more mind boggling.

I still have my version of this on my display shelf and I love it a lot more than the offical one, so make of that what you will.

2 hours ago, TheDoctor said:

Those interiors are so underwhelming....

Seems like the early leak was right about it just being a pure display piece. How disappointing.

[DonQuixote]

18 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

 

Louvre should take some notes. People will from now on come to visit and see 'Leonardo's painting' or spend their holidays in New York City too see some 'high building' LMAO 

 

 

 

Lol 

[Yperio_Bricks]

2 minutes ago, sahidko said:

But if people are still buying sets day one after listing half a page of complaints then why would they care to deliver higher quality? :) Anyway, I just found it funny.

+1

Actually I am thinking exactly this all the time!!

People complain online and then go on to buy sets on day one because they can not wait some months. Of course this way Lego does not get the message and nothing will ever change for the better.

[_R_R_]

4 minutes ago, thewatchman said:

I still have my version of this on my display shelf and I love it a lot more than the offical one, so make of that what you will.

Seems like the early leak was right about it just being a pure display piece. How disappointing.

I like it's simplicity to be honest and that it can be sectioned off into 3 parts and has interiors. The official set definitely has a more accurate shape and I do like the canon mechanism, even though it killed any chance of the designers making interiors.

The original leak mentioned it being a display piece and having no Barbossa or Pintel and Ragetti I think? Then at point Barbossa and Pintel were added and in the official announcement only Barbossa is present. It seems like the ship may have gone through some redesigns, the tiny cabin and hole with the treasure chest scream like last minute additions to me. The fact Lego confirmed the name change was a corporate decision made by Disney and them makes it seem like Disney probably had a lot of final say on what they did and what minifigures were added.

[F1stzz]

2 minutes ago, _R_R_ said:

The best thing to do is wait for a discount but even then I don't see any way of modding in interiors with the way they've built it.

It would certainly require some overhauls inside, but it won't be too much of a problem in terms of technicality, given the main section of the hull still seemingly follows the footprint of 21322, so for the most part I'd presume it'd be possible to get away with applying PoBB interior techniques to 10365. If you've got the parts from the OG Pearl & 21322 (adding some pieces from the stand of 10365 to the mix will also do), I'd say transforming the insides wouldn't be as hard as it seems – would just require some planning.

[kuzyabricks]

14 minutes ago, sahidko said:

But if people are still buying sets day one after listing half a page of complaints then why would they care to deliver higher quality? :) Anyway, I just found it funny.

Because I'm still paying a lot of money for it? Just because Im buying it day one doesn't mean it shouldn't be a quality product. I've wanted this set for 15 years nearly at this point so they could have made it microscale and I would have bought it

9 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

+1

Actually I am thinking exactly this all the time!!

People complain online and then go on to buy sets on day one because they can not wait some months. Of course this way Lego does not get the message and nothing will ever change for the better.

Because I want the gwp? I've waited 15 years let me buy what I want, doesn't mean quality should be low

Also there was never a leak about this being a pure display piece. That was a joke on 4chan. Yet people still keep spreading this rumour

[_R_R_]

11 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

Because I'm still paying a lot of money for it? Just because Im buying it day one doesn't mean it shouldn't be a quality product. I've wanted this set for 15 years nearly at this point so they could have made it microscale and I would have bought it

Because I want the gwp? I've waited 15 years let me buy what I want, doesn't mean quality should be low

Also there was never a leak about this being a pure display piece. That was a joke on 4chan. Yet people still keep spreading this rumour

I'm a hypocrite too, as much as the lack of certain details bug me and I'm disappointed about the lack of interiors I probably won't be able to resist the urge to get it, I've actually went ahead and compared it to the video game Black Pearl and it's basically a more modern version of it which I really dig! Again just wish they had included more details, interiors and that the minifigure selection was better. 

Here's what I'll do, add the tiles on the wall of the bow, add the bell, steering compass and skylight. I also need a monkey since they didn't add Jack the monkey for some reason, guess it's a Disney thing. For the minifigures I'll probably get a bunch of skeleton minifigures and equip them with pirate gear and have them fighting the crew. I originally planned to have Davy Jones and his crew fighting Jack and others but since every minifigure is based on the first movie it would make no sense.

Edited 16 hours ago by _R_R_

[sahidko]

12 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said:

Because I'm still paying a lot of money for it? Just because Im buying it day one doesn't mean it shouldn't be a quality product. I've wanted this set for 15 years nearly at this point so they could have made it microscale and I would have bought it

Because I want the gwp? I've waited 15 years let me buy what I want, doesn't mean quality should be low

Also there was never a leak about this being a pure display piece. That was a joke on 4chan. Yet people still keep spreading this rumour

You don't seem to get the point. Nobody is saying that the quality should be low however a company will always try to lower their cost and maximize profit and since people will apparently still buy day one expensive products that they consider significantly lacking (by their own description) there is no incentive for them to neither offer higher quality nor lower price. It's that simple. But I am done, this horse has been beaten to death lot of times already.

Edited 16 hours ago by sahidko

[DonQuixote]

4 minutes ago, sahidko said:

You don't seem to get the point. Nobody is saying that the quality should be low however a company will always try to lower their cost and maximize profit and since people will apparently still buy day one expensive products that they consider significantly lacking (by their own description) there is no incentive for them to neither offer higher quality nor lower price. It's that simple. But I am done, this horse has been beaten to death lot of times already.

+1

[F1stzz]

8 minutes ago, _R_R_ said:

For the minifigures I'll probably get a bunch of skeleton minifigures and equip them with pirate gear and have them fighting the crew.

Don't forget about the 973pb5154c01  This torso was literally waiting for this moment 

[brimbolet]

Hope that some of the torsos will find their way to PAB one day.

The old Black Pearl had 6 figs for 100$, if the new version would have 20+ figs accordingly the comments would've been totally different I believe.

No figures in a GWP at that price point is additionally heartbreaking. A huge failure on Lego's part. LOTR fans were treated much much better in comparison.

 

[_R_R_]

15 minutes ago, brimbolet said:

Hope that some of the torsos will find their way to PAB one day.

The old Black Pearl had 6 figs for 100$, if the new version would have 20+ figs accordingly the comments would've been totally different I believe.

No figures in a GWP at that price point is additionally heartbreaking. A huge failure on Lego's part. LOTR fans were treated much much better in comparison.

 

I agree, Pintel and Ragetti, maybe Commodore Norrington, just 3 estra minifigures would've done wonders for the set. Most of these minifigures already came with the older sets and some are downgraded in some areas. Even Cotton which is a new figure has an inaccurate torso print missing the vest and one of the other new figures, Anamaria, is useless as she had like 2 minutes of screen time in the whole franchise, if that. I also don't get why they never brought back the scabbard pieces, I loved those.

[SpacePolice89]

1 hour ago, DonQuixote said:

It could have been cheaper without the stand and under water hull

I agree. It is a strange decision to include those because they are unnecessary and only drives up the price. 

[kuzyabricks]

1 hour ago, sahidko said:

You don't seem to get the point. Nobody is saying that the quality should be low however a company will always try to lower their cost and maximize profit and since people will apparently still buy day one expensive products that they consider significantly lacking (by their own description) there is no incentive for them to neither offer higher quality nor lower price. It's that simple. But I am done, this horse has been beaten to death lot of times already.

I am more so buying it day one so Lego understands that we need the Dutchman 

[RichardGoring]

1 hour ago, brimbolet said:

No figures in a GWP at that price point is additionally heartbreaking. A huge failure on Lego's part. LOTR fans were treated much much better in comparison.

The only reason I ever buy a set day 1 is if there is a compelling GWP/offer. It is indeed the only incentive that makes me buy something at all, as I know something will come up eventually and I can wait. This GWP holds no interest for me at all. While it's part of PotC, it doesn't fit with the ship at all and is a massive lost opportunity for them to do something interesting.

1 hour ago, _R_R_ said:

I agree, Pintel and Ragetti, maybe Commodore Norrington, just 3 estra minifigures would've done wonders for the set. Most of these minifigures already came with the older sets and some are downgraded in some areas. Even Cotton which is a new figure has an inaccurate torso print missing the vest and one of the other new figures, Anamaria, is useless as she had like 2 minutes of screen time in the whole franchise, if that. I also don't get why they never brought back the scabbard pieces, I loved those.

Agreed. I had to look up who Anamaria was, and when it said argued with Jack about stealing her ship I remembered the scene, but she was clearly a forgettable character. I suppose I like pirates generally, as opposed to PotC specifically, but I enjoyed the films and will watch them again in future too, so I'm not disinterested. Probably still squarely in the target market for this set.

[F1stzz]

2 hours ago, brimbolet said:

No figures in a GWP at that price point is additionally heartbreaking.

For scalpers, that is. I believe I've seen the info about the Compass GWP only being available for 6 days initially (12-18 September) – who in their sane mind would wish for a GWP to include a couple of most desirable figures & be available for a starting week only as an addition to an already abominably expensive set? It's a shame we didn't get a couple more figs with the Pearl, but thank God they're also not locked behind a limited GWP that won't even be accessible worldwide!

[brimbolet]

1 hour ago, RichardGoring said:

The only reason I ever buy a set day 1 is if there is a compelling GWP/offer. It is indeed the only incentive that makes me buy something at all, as I know something will come up eventually and I can wait.

Agreed, come to think of it there wasn't at least for me a good GWP in a very long time. Don't like those without figs at all.

 

55 minutes ago, F1stzz said:

It's a shame we didn't get a couple more figs with the Pearl, but thank God they're also not locked behind a limited GWP that won't even be accessible worldwide!

Fair point, but it could be some regular figures instead, like generic stormtroopers in the rumored TIE fighter GWP. In our case just some drunken pirates, a pig and a scene from Tortuga for instance, anything one could bricklink for a small amount.

[RichardGoring]

2 hours ago, F1stzz said:

For scalpers, that is. I believe I've seen the info about the Compass GWP only being available for 6 days initially (12-18 September) – who in their sane mind would wish for a GWP to include a couple of most desirable figures & be available for a starting week only as an addition to an already abominably expensive set? It's a shame we didn't get a couple more figs with the Pearl, but thank God they're also not locked behind a limited GWP that won't even be accessible worldwide!

1 hour ago, brimbolet said:

Fair point, but it could be some regular figures instead, like generic stormtroopers in the rumored TIE fighter GWP. In our case just some drunken pirates, a pig and a scene from Tortuga for instance, anything one could bricklink for a small amount.

Something generic seems sensible. I was shocked to see 40729 Shackleton's Lifeboat listed locally for $120 the other day. Even now on Bricklink the current cheapest set in the US is $85, and the six month average sale price is $75. Crazy and there are not event any exclusive prints. But the two head pieces are locked in expensive sets and so have both low inventory and high prices on Bricklink.