2024 Technic Sets Discussion

[Ngoc Nguyen]

I think the brick built P1 logo is a part of the set. It's a display turntable.

[Timorzelorzworz]

Its not a bad idea. Who wants to spend the full price on the car gets a nice addition, and people who want to buy at discount can live without it

[LvdH]

  On 6/23/2024 at 10:50 AM, Ngoc Nguyen said:

I think the brick built P1 logo is a part of the set. It's a display turntable.

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No, if you look closely you can see some of the LBG slopes used to create the P1 logo.

[Oh_Hi_Mao]

Can it be a switch box for "standard" supercar specs placard? The black  bottom assembly looks too big for only rotation of the logo function. Maybe you turn the handle, placard goes down by rotational motion, P1 logo goes up and rotates about its axis while rotating the same handle on the side. Just a speculation :)

[OnyyX]

I think the fact it says "P1 Logo" on the box means it could either be that spinning logo idea, or possible the spinning turntable as well as a brickbuilt logo

[nerdsforprez]

  On 6/23/2024 at 10:33 AM, Maaboo the Witch said:

I think it's a logo that rotates when the crank is turned.

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ah yes I should have looked closer.  So is this like a promo set or something? 

[Maaboo the Witch]

  On 6/23/2024 at 1:02 PM, nerdsforprez said:

ah yes I should have looked closer.  So is this like a promo set or something? 

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GWP.

[StudWorks]

Skeptic about this being the 10-year-old McLaren P1 model. This leads me to believe that the "P18" yet-to-be-revealed McLaren hypercar might adorn the name of its predecessor.

[R0Sch]

There is no reason to use so many gears and heavy duty differential if it would be just a spinning logo turned by a crank. I think it will hold the weight of the whole car too.
Seems the top part has more printed text, maybe the car model included too. So another exclusive GWP in a cheap yellow box for a high threshold.
Work in progress (the P is not quite right yet):

Edited June 23, 2024 by R0Sch

[Jockos]

There is something I don't get. On one hand, it can't be the turntable for the car, because it won't bear the weight. On the other hand, it looks over-engineered for a simple logo-turning stand. So I think there's some other purpose in the background, maybe a stand for the car's removable engine or gearbox?

It would be great to have some photos of the inside or the last page, if there's any hint or picture.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Jockos

[LvdH]

@R0Sch The 1 is also not quite correct. The top looks to be a 1x2 curved slope which you can also see in the pile.

[therealjustin]

This is definitely real, and I'm beyond excited for a P1 

 

I don't see McLaren reusing a name for their next hypercar. The P1 was a monumental leap forward for the company and still influences their design language to this day. It's iconic.

[R0Sch]

  On 6/23/2024 at 8:54 PM, LvdH said:

@R0Sch The 1 is also not quite correct. The top looks to be a 1x2 curved slope which you can also see in the pile.

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Yes, I need higher resolution images and a parts list. I also doubt now that it can act like a turntable and support the whole car. It doesn't look sturdy enough in the back.

I guess this explains why CaDA didn't get the P1 license from McLaren and had to stick to "Silent Assassin".

[Seasider]

To me the GWP is a rotating logo not a stand for the car. As to the car McLaren have a car known as P18 which is rumoured to be the new P1, so I expect it will be this and not the old P1

[JimDude]

  On 6/25/2024 at 8:56 AM, Seasider said:

To me the GWP is a rotating logo not a stand for the car..

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Well it can’t be a rotating stand for the car coz no hand would fit underneath the car to reliably operate the crank.

That said, why is it so overengineered just to spin the logo? If it was to make it look cool, that failed I’d say, coz it looks ugly and out of proportion. In fact I think it doesn't even weigh enough to be able to spin the crank one-handed. You'd just shove the thing all over the place, so you'd have to hold it down with your other hand.

I still think we’re missing a trick.

(it's fake isn't it )

[LvdH]

  On 6/25/2024 at 8:56 AM, Seasider said:

To me the GWP is a rotating logo not a stand for the car. As to the car McLaren have a car known as P18 which is rumoured to be the new P1, so I expect it will be this and not the old P1

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P18 is only a codename anyways. It could very well be named P1. Like the 720s was named P14, Senna P15, and so on. 

[Zerobricks]

Think it may be simply a rotating platfrom with the car's name/logo. Still doesn't explain the need for a diff, unless it has hidden wheels and you can push it around

[Jockos]

About the colour, I have hopes that the P1 will turn out to be not bright light orange, but purple instead. I know, they won't bring in this shade of orange just for a GWP, but seeing previous huge sets' GWPs (e.g. Avengers' Tower) there are contrasts in colour pairings, so as to stand out a bit from the main attraction.

Edited June 25, 2024 by Jockos

[gyenesvi]

Maybe the platform is meant to be motorized to make the logo spin? Hand cranking seems like a pointless thing, no?

About the color, if there are new parts in bright light orange in the GWP then we can expect the actual car to have that color as well. And I think the 3L pin with axle-hole end seems like bright light orange (if not pearl gold) and that would be new, right? I'd actually welcome more pieces in that color as it is a nice one but the current lineup of parts is not really useful.

[howitzer]

  On 6/25/2024 at 2:00 PM, gyenesvi said:

Maybe the platform is meant to be motorized to make the logo spin? Hand cranking seems like a pointless thing, no?

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Still doesn't explain the need for differential and many gears. With motorization there's no need for more than 2 gears at most if you want to reduce the speed.

[Seasider]

  On 6/25/2024 at 11:50 AM, LvdH said:

P18 is only a codename anyways. It could very well be named P1. Like the 720s was named P14, Senna P15, and so on. 

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Yes that’s exactly what I meant. I work in the car industry so well aware that car projects have their own code names/numbers during development 

[lmdesigner42]

Interesting idea for a GWP. The differential could be used for inline gear reduction by fixing one output.

[R0Sch]

  On 6/25/2024 at 3:51 PM, lmdesigner42 said:

Interesting idea for a GWP. The differential could be used for inline gear reduction by fixing one output.

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Now this here brings me to an interesting idea. What if it's both a "sound box" mimicking an engine rev-up and a turning logo in one. You would turn the crank and one shaft would spin much faster, while the logo spins much slower like in a showroom. Or more likely the orange rings act like a flywheel and stabilize the spinning logo so that it stays balanced. Hence the need for different output speeds and a diff.

Edited June 25, 2024 by R0Sch

[R0Sch]

I think I got it. Diff case fixed to flywheel rings, while inner planetary gears fixed on one end to frame and rotating on the other end with 1:5 of the case rotation speed.

[Stereo]

The basic principle of the differential is that the case moves at the average of the two sides (if they're both 1 rpm same way, case is 1 rpm; if they're +1 and -1, case is stationary) so if one end is fixed, the other moves twice as fast as the case.  So I think that setup has the "P1" spinning twice as fast as the rings.

If you instead geared it so the bottom end of the diff was counterrotating (say -4/5 of the top; 16:20 exists in lego gears) then you can have a 1/10 speed reduction.  I haven't counted the number of each gear available, but maybe it'd be 12:28 bevel on the top, and 12:20 bevel on the bottom, with the 16t gears used to make one spin opposite direction of the other.

Edited June 25, 2024 by Stereo