GeoBrick Posted April 10 Posted April 10 You're late for double VIP points when buying this set now. I like the set, but as always I see ways to tinker with it, improve it to my liking. 100€ isn't too hard for what you get, especially since the designer made it a two-in-one model (meaning you can build two additional models if you disassemble the original set, or buy a second copy of the set). The secondary plans are downloadable from this set's page in the LEGO online store. Quote
Murdoch17 Posted April 10 Posted April 10 20 minutes ago, imposter said: 10355 Blacktron Renegade Is this set worth to buy? It is 100 € here in Europe. No stickers! Short answer: Yes, it's worth it. Long answer: Yes, it's worth it. Get it while it's available! Quote
imposter Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Why it is with it? I probably buy second small Dreamzzz set. MOC it. https://www.newelementary.com/2025/02/review-71489-coopers-gaming-controller.html (here are some great tips for mocing it). Quote
imposter Posted April 11 Posted April 11 15 hours ago, Murdoch17 said: Short answer: Yes, it's worth it. Long answer: Yes, it's worth it. Get it while it's available! Still waiting... Quote
Murdoch17 Posted April 11 Posted April 11 2 hours ago, imposter said: Still waiting... waiting for what? I answered your question. Quote
imposter Posted April 11 Posted April 11 19 hours ago, Murdoch17 said: Short answer: Yes, it's worth it. Long answer: Yes, it's worth it. Get it while it's available! please? Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted April 11 Posted April 11 8 minutes ago, imposter said: please? He said yes Mr Imposter, he recommends it Quote
GeoBrick Posted April 11 Posted April 11 I should have quoted Mr Imposter's first post, totally forgot it. Maybe that was the long answer he needed? Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted April 11 Posted April 11 21 hours ago, imposter said: 10355 Blacktron Renegade Is this set worth to buy? It is 100 € here in Europe. No stickers! It is a fantastic set and very fun to build. I like how it looks and if you like Blacktron and 80s and 90s Space it is a must have. Buy it! Buy it now! Quote
imposter Posted April 11 Posted April 11 I probably collect Dreamzzz (sci-fi) sets before that. Because I need 2 of those anyway. For ALT builds. At the moment Dreamzzz has made even BIGGER impact than Blacktron spaceship. I MOC them. Quote
Artanis I Posted April 12 Posted April 12 That photo just demonstrates how 'too yellow' it is, sadly. I still haven't gotten around to ordering it. Quote
danth Posted April 12 Posted April 12 Well. I finally built my Renegade a couple weekends ago. It's easily the worst Icons set ever made. I'm not sure there's any point explaining. Just...look at it. Look at the original Renegade, and then look at the new Renegade. Now look at the original Galaxy Explorer, and then the new Galaxy Explorer. If you don't see the obvious shortcomings, and just how far off the mark is compared to the Galaxy Explorer remake, nothing I can say will sway you. It just looks terrible. Especially the messy, misshapen, wings and the blocky front left sensor array. This is the only Icons set that one first sight I thought didn't look really nice. It looks like a mediocre MOC at best. The kind you don't comment on because you can't think of much nice to say. I do like the printed parts and the new yellow windscreen. Quote
icm Posted April 12 Posted April 12 I'm not quite that harsh on it myself, but having built it a couple months ago I agree that it's not nearly the masterpiece the Galaxy Explorer is. It's much flatter than the original Renegade, and much more symmetrical, so I don't feel like it captures the key elements of the original nearly as well. The brick-built Blacktron logos as the little flyers on the wings is a cute idea, but it doesn't work very well either as the logo or as a little flyer for a minifig to use. The idea of a dropship with a big rover is fun, but it's not the same thing as a big container that contains a smaller rover. And the worst part, in my opinion, is the use of an overengineered clip system to join the modules. I understand the reasoning - it does seem to be more rigid and able to bear greater loads than Technic pins would be - but I just don't trust it to stand up to more than the lightest play over the short term. Clips are much more prone to fatigue failure than Technic pins, and a big unlicensed Lego spaceship at an attractive price point should be built to stand up to heavy play over a long term. Clips won't do that. They break all too quickly. I bought and built the new Renegade, the new City modular spaceship, and the old Space Police 2 Galactic Mediator all at about the same time a couple of months ago, and to my surprise the oldest ship (the Galactic Mediator) was still the best toy: surprisingly light, rigid, and swooshable for the size, but with solidly engineered play features and a roomy interior. The interior of the Galactic Mediator is barer than it needs to be, but I think for play that's better than the overly cramped interior of the City modular spaceship. That one is so stuffed with detail that there's hardly room to stand a minifig inside, which makes it hard to actually play with the interior detail. Quote
imposter Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) Galaxy Explorer like Lion Knight's Castle are BOTH anniversary sets. They are best LEGO can make. I have both on them next to me. 3rd set is Optimus Prime which is also in my LEGO self. Those 3 came in 2021-2022. All 3 are MASTERPIECES. Blacktron Spaceship is 5/5 set easily. If you tell something else - you don't understand LEGO at all. Edited April 12 by imposter Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted April 13 Posted April 13 I think it is a good thing that the 2025 Renegade is a bit different than the original Renegade because I plan to buy the original. When Blacktron 1 was available in stores I didn't even know about the Renegade because it wasn't available in Europe. At first I found out about it around the year 2000 when I discovered LUGNET. I saw the original in real life last year at the Lego House and it looks amazing. If someone likes the the new Renegade or not is of course depending on individual preferences regarding design and colors. Telling someone that if they don't like a set they don't understand Lego at all is wrong and unnecessary. Quote
Lion King Posted April 13 Posted April 13 I still can’t decide if i should buy the 2025 Renegade or not. Is it Competely faithful to its original verision other than the size? Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 6 hours ago, Lion King said: I still can’t decide if i should buy the 2025 Renegade or not. Is it Competely faithful to its original verision other than the size? I think it is a great set and that you should buy it. The overall look is the same as the original but besides size there are some differences. The mid section of the new Renegade has a large visible vehicle that can be detached. The new Renegade uses slightly more yellow than the original. The new Renegade has a small detachable spaceship on each wing that also function as a brick built Blacktron logo. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted April 19 Posted April 19 On 4/13/2025 at 11:18 PM, Lion King said: I still can’t decide if i should buy the 2025 Renegade or not. Is it Completely faithful to its original version other than the size? I wouldn't say that, it really couldn't be. The design is much more abstract and dependent on the individual parts that originally made it. I think it can't really be upscaled within LEGO's standards for stability like the Black Seas Barracuda and Galaxy Explorer can. I still think it's good and feels like it fits in with the Blacktron design language really well Quote
Black Falcon Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I don´t think it needs to be completely faithful to the original. he Galaxy Explorer wasn´t either and yet it was a great model. In the end wether you buy it or not should depend on whether you like it for what it is and not how faithful it is towards something else. Quote
GeoBrick Posted April 28 Posted April 28 21 minutes ago, danth said: Upscaled red Space Baby GWP in March. March? Which year? Quote
danth Posted April 28 Posted April 28 6 hours ago, GeoBrick said: March? Which year? 4 hours ago, Artanis I said: May That's what I get for trying to post news past midnight. 4 hours ago, Space78 said: Nice, looks like no stickers??? Having a big Classic Space print in red is going to drive some crazy MOCing. New factions will be invented. Quote
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