I Scream Clone Posted October 8, 2008 Castle Community Build Hi to all Castle enthusiasts, welcome to the Eurobricks Community Castle Build. Basically we are constructing a walled city with everyday life featured on the inside of these Castle walls. Some of the most creative minds from Eurobricks are involved in what should be a great team exercise. Feel free to sign up or simply comment on any aspect of this project. After all its my your group build 69 Modules and counting! Guidelines: You may join at anytime, just post here and we will see you into a team -Must be keen on Community discussion to build a Castle together -Should have at least enough light grey to build the wall of your castle section to specifications, see bottom of post for wall dimensions. -Love to MOC (though this is a given) and give and take constructive criticism too -Follow the size restrictions per entry as per the castle layout below (thanks to Thrash) -Be willing to build your modules within a few months of signing up for one of the choices (some people are busy, we understand that) -Registration is open to any member, regardless of no. of posts etc. Hey we even have a Mod or too signed up! -Obey all the relevant Forum rules as set out by Eurobricks. -Images no larger than 800 x 600 please, and maximum of 5 per module unless you post smaller images like Sandy. -If you have an idea of another structure that would be good to have in the EBCCB, let us know and we can add it to the list. -More than one person may build a module, we will have a vote off to decide which is prefered. Eventually we will probably have multiples of each anyway. -Please post your pictures in your team thread, though you may post one pic in the discussion topic. -Thrash will handle the thumbnail pics, but please post a link to your gallery. -Most importantly, have fun Im loving all the great entries so far guys and gals. Thumbnails Thumbnail Brickshelf Big Picture Brickshelf Community Build Index: Team Alpha Group Build Topic Team Beta Group Build Topic Building Techniques FAQ Phase 2 Final Complete Design (external castle wall) Internal wall modules on sides of Keep and back-to-back wall modules. Keep Hallway design basics Rooftop design Props to Thrash for all the Architect stuff too! This is the standard for exterior castle wall, please adhere as close to this as possible. Some detailing etc is allowed, however placement on the baseplate and technic pins at 1, 6 and 11 high are necessary. Roofing may be any colour type you like as each structure is different in the walled city D1. Money Changer D2. Fish Monger/Thieves Guild D3. Tavern D4. Dock D5. Out-house D6. Brothel w/ Alley Way D7. Opium Den D8. Witch's Hut D9. Gambling Den D10. Guard Post D11. Alchemist D12. Barbershop I1. Tanner I2. Mason's Guild I3. Siege Factory I4. Carpenter I5. Silversmith I6. Glazier I7. Lumberjack Lodge I8. I9. Poleturner I10. Blacksmith I11. Fletcher I12. I13. Dyer I14. Tapestry Weaver I15. Guard Post I16. Chandler I17. Cooper C1. Adventurer's Guild C2. Doctor C3. Tournament Grounds C4. Animal Pen C5. Butcher C6. Cadger's Menagerie C7. Wizard's Guild C8. Amphitheater C9. Actor's Guild C10. Vegetable Patch C11. Apothecary C12. Mystery Play C13. Chapel C14. Monastary C15. Graveyard C16. Guard Post C17. Bakery C18. Jester's Joke Shop C19. Jeweler M1. Armory M2. Stables M3. Wall Repairs M4. Oil Smelter M5. Barracks M6. Wall under Siege M7. Fighters Guild M8. Fighting Arena M9. Archery Range M10. Training Ground M11. Elvin Archer's Barracks G1. Church G2. Tax Collector G3. Crownie Secret Service Tower G4. Falconry Mew G5. Gate from Military w/ Guard Post G6. Troll Embassy G7. Skeleton Embassy G8. Wolfpack Embassy G9. Black Falcon Embassy G10. Forestmen's Treehouse G11. Dungeon G12. Torture Chamber G13. Alley-way G14. Dwarven Embassy G15. Bank G16. Gate from Civilian G17. Memorial O1. Main Gatehouse O2. Back Gatehouse O3. Siege Camp K1. Courtyard K2. Gatehouse (2 stories) and drawbridge K3. Servant's Quarters K4. Buttery K5. Kitchen K6. Entrance Hall w/ Great Staircase (2 stories) K7. Wine Cellar K8. Library K9. Guest Chambers K10. Guest Chambers K11. Lying In Chamber K12. Garderobe K13. Royal Armory K14. War Room K15. Knight's Quarters K16. Stairwell (2 stories) K17. Dining Hall K18. Princess' Chamber K19. Prince's Chamber K20. Queen's Chamber K21. King's Chamber K22. Chamberlain's Quarters K23. Throne Room K24. Royal Jail K25. Royal Torture Chamber w/ Staircase to Roof (2 stories) K26. Treasury K27. Wizard Tower K28. Illuminator's Room K29. Jester's Quarters R1. NW Tower R2. Platform 1 R3. Platform 2 R4. Platform 3 R5. SE Tower R6. Platform 4 R7. Platform 5 R8. Platform 6 R9. SW Tower R10. Platform 7 Options Acrobat, Architect Armorer, Artist, Astrologer Barrister, Bookbinder Bowyer, Bricklayer Candlemaker, Carpenter, Cartographer Clothier, Diplomat Engineer, Engraver Farmer, Fisherman, Forester Fortune-Teller, Furrier, Gardener Grain Merchant, Gravedigger Herald, Herbalist, Hunter Interpreter, Jeweler, Leatherworker, Locksmith Messenger, Miner, Minstrel Navigator, Painter Peddler, Politician, Potter, Rat Catcher Sailor, Scribe, Servant Shipwright, Shoemaker, Spy Storyteller, Weaver Here are the first two teams drawn randomly from a hat. Next to each name will be your build preference. I would like to see all discussion taking place in this topic. New members are assigned as they come in to even the group numbers. Dragonator (Group Alpha Leader) Erdbeeries1 Stol Pickerel Wouwie Adam Quarryman Guss Dan Church Lalande jifel Legoking Pedro Jimbutcher Josh Matn castlestrike666 Agersborg Zepher Waterbrick Down *Jerry Man* Lt. De Martinet ISC (Group Beta Leader) Sandy Stash2sixx Thrash Captain Green Hair LasseD randomparrot Skipper24 Buttons Glorious Shadow Dennimator Genaral armendariz Arawos 3d Brickthing CastleLord darkagent Cap'n Blackmoor Newright stenertje Etzel Sir Dillon Cheers ISC Team Alpha MOC's Stol, livin next door to Thrash Erdbeereis, Beta boy! Lalande, Every Castle needs a Queen jifel, dissappeared, come back Guss, Eyepatches in Medieval times? Josh, not rude at all Matn, we want more Castlestrike666, keep em coming JimButcher, the dark side Waterbrick Down, off and running *Jerry Man* Lt. De Martinet Pedro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Scream Clone Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Team Beta MOCs ISC, Team Leader and Supreme Overlord CCB Commander Thrash, unstoppable Sandy, Champion LasseD, outside the square 3D Brickthing, tanned Dennimator, ooohh, shiny darkagent, BL on speed dial stenertje Thrash's Girlfriend CastleLord NewRight Etzel Cap'n Blackmoor General armendariz Ref stuff 31 39 Med Occupations Edited June 19, 2009 by I Scream Clone It's magic, huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Posted October 8, 2008 This sounds like a great idea, ISC! I may even volunteer! I've been wanting to build a Blacksmith's forge for a long time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 [Raises hand] Count me in for the first run A 16x16 size sounds good to me. Are we going to make this "attachable" like the rules defined for other modular builds? I'm thinking in same dimensions as the dimensions of for example space stations on Classic-Space or Castle modules on Classic-Castle? I'm an all Fantasy kind of guy, so if the general mood is that this is to be historically correct, then I'll take my leave (no offense meant and none will be taken). Great idea ISC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Scream Clone Posted October 8, 2008 [Raises hand]Count me in for the first run A 16x16 size sounds good to me. Are we going to make this "attachable" like the rules defined for other modular builds? I'm thinking in same dimensions as the dimensions of for example space stations on Classic-Space or Castle modules on Classic-Castle? I'm an all Fantasy kind of guy, so if the general mood is that this is to be historically correct, then I'll take my leave (no offense meant and none will be taken). Great idea ISC Well lets face it all Lego is fantasy based, and historically correct sounds like a lot of work Probably best to make them modular to some extent. Perhaps each topic is put out to the community first to determine what attributes each build has to have. Example Blacksmith cottage must have fire place, anvil, quench etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hewkii9 Posted October 8, 2008 I like this idea. Count me in for this, although I would like to know a bit more about whatever standards for linearity there are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 That sounds great, count me in! Though i'm not sure what to exactly buld yet, i'd very much like to be in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorro Posted October 8, 2008 What I am proposing is for 3 to 5 people to put there hands up to build a portion of a Castle. For example the first challenge could be a corner tower or blacksmith forge etc. Say they each get maximum of a month to build and submit their MOC and then the community decides which of the three they like. Then the next 3 to 5 volunteers can build the next part. This is such a great idea, ISC, but if we contend and build something (and "win"), are we supposed to actually attach it in real-life afterwards? Or only by posting pics? I mean that, after the contest is over, shouldn't we in some or other way, put these builded parts together in one large castle? I think that would be neat, especcialy considering the many different building styles that would be used. I will await more intel before I will consider posting my entry for a builders position, since I already have too few time rebuilding my original Lego sets and my Napo-army.... for those that contend and for the Clonescreamer ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 I think this'll outgrow the initial idea of 3 to 5 members. Perhaps a rearrangement might prove useful: Here's what I suggest as an idea for a community build. We subdivide different things to be build on 16x16 baseplates (towers, walls, gates, blacksmith, stables and so forth) Each thing get a discussion topic and a post your finished MOC topic. In the end of the period, a poll for each thing is made, deciding which on to add to the Community MOC. I'll gladly be the one making and maintaining an index gathering all the strings. How does that sound? This is such a great idea, ISC, but if we contend and build something (and "win"), are we supposed to actually attach it in real-life afterwards? Or only by posting pics? I mean that, after the contest is over, shouldn't we in some or other way, put these builded parts together in one large castle? I think that would be neat, especcialy considering the many different building styles that would be used. I will await more intel before I will consider posting my entry for a builders position, since I already have too few time rebuilding my original Lego sets and my Napo-army.... for those that contend and for the Clonescreamer ! Perhaps someone with an accesive amount of pieces could remake each model and make a photo session on it? Well lets face it all Lego is fantasy based, and historically correct sounds like a lot of work Probably best to make them modular to some extent. Perhaps each topic is put out to the community first to determine what attributes each build has to have. Example Blacksmith cottage must have fire place, anvil, quench etc. That's a splendid idea. Which would suit perfectly in the discussion topics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 That does sound very good KimT, i was thinking about the same. First we should have a discussion/poll which things exactly are needed or wanted for the castle and then create extra threads for each "castle part" that should be built with polls added which decide what creations will make it to the final castle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Scream Clone Posted October 8, 2008 I think this'll outgrow the initial idea of 3 to 5 members.Perhaps a rearrangement might prove useful: Here's what I suggest as an idea for a community build. We subdivide different things to be build on 16x16 baseplates (towers, walls, gates, blacksmith, stables and so forth) Each thing get a discussion topic and a post your finished MOC topic. In the end of the period, a poll for each thing is made, deciding which on to add to the Community MOC. I'll gladly be the one making and maintaining an index gathering all the strings. How does that sound? Perhaps someone with an accesive amount of pieces could remake each model and make a photo session on it? Now we are getting somewhere I wasn't sure how big it was going to get, but agree that subdividing would be more fruitful as well as quicker to get all sections built. There is also Zorro's question about combining each build later, and I think if you are happy with your final build you could then reverse engineer to make instructions for others by disassembling it 10 -15 pieces per photo too. Just a thought. Also I will start to put a list into my first post of interested people, and we could PM you when its up and running. Thanks guys and gals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matteo Kenobi Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds good to me KimT, it has more of a community feel to it, and its not far from the original idea! As for my participitation, I will certainly vote and be merry, I may put my name in the buidling hat and crank something out, it would be great fun but I would have to order parts and such, so we will see where my money supply is at. Is there a due date for when people have to be signed up by? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 That does sound very good KimT, i was thinking about the same. First we should have a discussion/poll which things exactly are needed or wanted for the castle and then create extra threads for each "castle part" that should be built with polls added which decide what creations will make it to the final castle. I am not sure a poll is needed. We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with. We are awaiting your command ISC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy Posted October 8, 2008 I am not sure a poll is needed.We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with. Dear all, I would like to contribute as well, but I'm currently a bit "overstretched" financially and timewise by my own MOCs. But my current castle consist out of modules of 20x20 and 16x16. So I could contribute something design wise? Although I'm not sure if I want to destroy them in favour of re-engineering. Kind regrads, Teddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) I am not sure a poll is needed.We ought to just discuss and agree what is to be part of any given module. - Mostly those intending on participating would have an opinion and therefore reaching a mutual agreement on the included things would be better than forcing someone to add things he/she disagrees with. We are awaiting your command ISC Yes i agree now, that would be better. So, my first question would be, how these creations rawly should look. Should they bey be complete rooms with 4 walls, doors and a roof, or just the interior and say, 2 walls? that's the thing which intersts me the most at the moment. Edited October 8, 2008 by metalandi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 I think we should make an attachable rule. For example: Each module is to be built on a 16x16 baseplate. A 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole shall be placed on two opposing sides of the baseplate, leaving 7 studs free for building on each side of the brick. Another 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole is to be placed 5 bricks higher and directly above the first placed 2x2 brick with a technic pin hole. Making it a total height of 6 bricks from the baseplate counting both 2x2 bricks and the space between. No overhang is allowed over the sides of the 16x16 baseplate where the 2x2 bricks with technic pin holes are placed. That should allow a lot of imagination and ideas to still be carried out. These are the bricks in mind for the attachment rule: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matteo Kenobi Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds good, after all that is the standard on most castle sets, so it works pretty well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) Sounds like a good solution to me. I just rawly built what you described, so it is clear for everybody where to put the hole brcks and how high t should be. I hope i did understand it right myself too Edited October 8, 2008 by metalandi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds like a good solution to me. I just rawly built what you described, so it is clear for everybody where to put the hole brcks and how high t should be. I hope i did understand it right myself too Close, but no cigar I meant the technic hole bricks should be in the bottom (as in the pic) And another as brick no6 counting from the bottom. A flip of the 2 bricks in the top is needed for the pic to be correct. This is NOT a rule yet, just an idea we're discussing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonator Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) I'll add my name to the list, it'll be a nice little challenge, if I can ever bring myself to pull apart my almost complete castle MOC. Although if it's not starting for a while, then that'll give me a chance to do a few bricklink orders. Oh, and metalandi, I think you've got the top two bricks around the wrong way... EDIT: Yeah, KimT bet me to it. Edited October 8, 2008 by Dragonator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 This is what I thought. Just one brick taller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 (edited) You are right, my mistake. So what is left is, how to build the sides, and if there should be a roof or not. I think it could be difficult to build a roof that fits to all other castle parts in the end, as everybody might have his own thoughts on that. If a roof is being built i think the best would be to make it modular style so you are able to access the room from above (like the green grocer roof and floors for example). What do you think? Edited October 8, 2008 by metalandi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KimT Posted October 8, 2008 Perhaps we should agree on how wide it's allowed to be in the ends? For example look at my posted pic a few posts back. The width is 4 studs, if we agree on a common width, then it would be easier making the modules fit each other. Also a max heigth on the last 1-2 studs from the sides and inwards might be useful. For example: The first 2 studs (counting from the 1x2 bricks with technic pin holes) may not be taller than 10 bricks. This would leave the issue of wether or not a catwalk is intended. If a catwalk is intended are we then allowed to "cut" it? One could built the catwalk 1 or 2 studs in on the baseplate and then stop or "cut" it with a roof or tower. Would that be ok? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalandi Posted October 8, 2008 The first part is pretty clear to me, but what do you mean with catwalk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites