the_green_avenger

It's not the first... this "set" came around in 1935, while lego was founded in 1932 (though it was named lego in 1934, a couple years after it was founded) The VERY first sets were basic wooden toys, like firetrucks, etc. And it would be really hard, if not impossible, to find these originals (if your friends with kjeld kirk christiansen, he might have one or two lying around to give you...) P.S. that one random giveaway where one lucky person got a SOLID GOLD C-3P0 seemed interesting. whoever got it could probably hold onto it for a while, then sell it for a very high price (not entirely sure if its counted as a set, though)

Exactly, so either everyone should agree minifigs are a certain height, or, I even provided a way for you to determine scale depending on preferred height I understand that minifigs are not very humanly propartionate on a height to waist scale, so it'd be best to go by height, and ignor the minifigs' fatness. The builders of miniland use about a 1:22 scale when they make thier models. The height of a minifig is about half that of the miniland people so minifig scale would be twice that, or a 1:44 scale. Any disagreements there? P.S. I just realised that your flikr name is madphysicist! Love your work!

Seems like a really good ship you got goin' there! Any updates? (don't get mad at me for bumping this, seems interesting...)

All right, The really insanely amazing parts of this moc... 1. sails!!!!!!!!! 2. sterncastle interior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3. figure head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4. rigging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 5. the overall ship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great work! Absolutely splended, You won't be seeing any bad commants from me! Hope the rest of the rigging and sails end up as amazing as the rest of the ship!

Meh... any updates?

Your RATshot so you get to be the one on the left... lol Also IMO I think it looks better w/out the extention...

If you notice, the gun deck follows a line... and the bow fits that line perfectly, and it would look a bit funny if it were any lower (I think) Also, the BSB has two windows in the rear, not three. And I really don't see much resemblence in the sterns, but with the rest of the ship there is a lot of resemblence...

Probably named after THIS ship...

I agree You got any update pics? Sounds Good! Also, Is the thing made of barrels on the front of the ship supposed to be some kind of cannon? Also, also, You got that story posted anywhere? i'd like to read it...

Did you mean rudder? And why is your ship female? lol. I'm sure IT won't dissapoint... Can't wait to see it done!

I think it would keep things simple if everyone agreed that minifigs were 6 ft. no matter how fat that would make them...

Yeah I just realised, that if minifigs are six feet tall, it is not 1:40 scale... (minifigs would be 5' 5") The scale would accually be 1:44.307692307 if they were six feet... but that has no impact on the rest of the calculations... I've changed that, but I do feel a 1:40 scale would in fact be better if you were more into detailing, of course, like you said, its personal preference.

I would accually prefer if you had more pictures of THIS ship. (that are accually in the post) Anyway, you should definately keep it down to 2-3 masts, and does it have any specific name? cause most IMPERIAL ships have names (like rochester, or circumstance) hmmmm... a black pearl replica... is it in minifig scale? Sounds interesting!

These pics from CGH's build a frigate are pretty self explanatory:

I'll be at some hockey game, mid-afternoon (pacific time) on saturday (in case you were wondering) Also I think I'll be changing the 2x2 plates out for flags, like you wanted... edit: I guess that was accually admiral bejuane that recommended it, but oh well... edit2: why'd you change your sigfig? I liked the old one better...

Alright, the names changed, now I'll (maybe) be fixing the rigging , as well as adding sails , another cannon port and putting the name on the stern. Renovations should be done within a couple weeks, I'm busy with school, and this weekend I'm heading up to vancouver to see the olypics edit: I WILL be changing the rigging, as well as using flags for the cannon ports, so all in all, this is still a WIP (like it says in my sig) And the tweaks should be done come march.

I can't really understand what your saying, but I would like to see more pics. Pretty good for your first. The bow has a really nice design to it. BTW, how many prefab hull pieces did you use? I think four masts is a bit much, cause they seem pretty close together Glad to see a new member! hope you enjoy your time! edit: Now I understand...

I'm talking about QUALITIES, not specific Features. And an interior is definately something that adds a lot too a ship's overall quality...

Its most definately a cool moc. And I just relised you both live in new brunswick!

Same with what admiral becjuane said plus 99.99% of ADD is really ADHD (same here, I'm ADHD) Sorry 'bout the spelling criticism (you might want to try and use the spell check in the top right of the screen when making posts). And I was accually looking up in the dictionary the definition of grandeur and it was spelled grandUEr, I just checked and it is... so either the dictionary is wrong, or you can spell it both ways...

A good effort is in fact found in every, great (and some not as great) MOC. Thats a good thing to point out. Its like that quote your couch always tells you before a big game, it doesn't matter weather you win or lose, as long as you try your best. P.S. I was interested in knowing the physical aspects of a good ship, but thanks for pointing that out anyway.

I've got the "Lego Mindstorms NXt Hacker's guide" (by Dave procknow) There's a good tutorial for doing so. Simply drill a hole in a stud, put the LED wires thru the hole and tape a hearing aid battery onto the LED wires on the inside of the brick. If you dont want to drill into the bricks, you could probably use a similar approach, that doesn't involve drilling. *You should really check out grimmy's link for best, quality, results

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true, but it is very commonly accepted that minifigs are 6 ft. But if you want conversions for a 5ft. fig the scale would in fact be 1:1 so every stud equals a foot. (5 feet is still pretty short, avereage is about 5' 10" (I think) Since one foot equals 0.3048 meters the scale would be 1:0.3048 so you could say every three studs is about a meter, but in truth it would be every three studs is 1.0936132983377077865266841644794 meters I could've guessed there was alrady some topic on it. Guess I probably should've checked, maybe bumped the topic. Oh well, thats more of just a discussion, plus mine is easy to understand, and you don't have to go digging through the forums to find it. BTW, I like the site! very helpful! Thanks for posting!

I was doing some measurements, for a ship recreation I was to do, And had to make some conversions of stud to brick, in order to make things minifig scale. So I worked out that if minifig scale is 1:44.307692307 (supposively minifigs are 6ft. tall) And they are exactly 5 studs tall, that means the ratio is 6:5, or for every five studs in lego, it is six feet in real life. If you divide that, you get 1.2 feet per stud, or 0.8333... studs per foot. So, say you have an 85 foot long ship. Simply multiply by 0.833 and you have a 71 (70.83) stud, in length, ship. I'm doing a replica of the HMS beagle which is 90.3 feet long, calculated out to 75 studs and 24.5 feet wide, calculated out to 20 studs (just thought I might share an application of these conversions) For those of you that don't use feet, in measurement, one foot = 0.3048 meters, so minifigs would be 1.8288 meters tall, meaning the ratio would be 1.8288:5 or for every five studs in lego, it is about 1.8 meters in real life. If you divide that, you get 0.36576 meters per stud, or 2.7340332458442694663167104111986 studs per meter (just to be exact) So, say you have a 45 meter long ship. Simply multiply by 2.734 and you have a 123 (123.03) stud, in length, ship. Also here is a "stud converter site" That would probably help a lot too... (BTW calculations from this site are not exactly the same as mine, FYI) If you feel like "setting" the height of your minifig, say, you think minifigs are 5 feet tall (like blueandwhite thinks) just convert to inches and divide by 1.625 (thats how many inches tall minifigs are if you include nub on top) to find the scale. Then, simply convert the length of the real life object to inches, multiply by the ratio in fraction form (1/x) to find the length of the model in inches, and since one stud is 0.3125 inches, divied the number you came up with by 0.3125 to find th length in studs... For example, say you want figs to be 5'10", convert to inches (70), divide by 1.625, just add 1:x (or 1/x) and you have your ratio (1:43.076923 or 1/43.076923) Then, if you wanted to make a real life object using YOUR OWN minifig scale, simply convert its length (say 24 feet) to inches (288 inches), then multiply that by the ratio in fraction form (288x(1/43.076923) and you have it length in minifig scale, in inches (6.6857142976530612458090379389447 inches), divide by 0.3125, and you have the length in studs... (21, really 21.394285752489795986588921404621 rounded) *anyone need that in metric?