David Thomsen
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Every day, just2good is releasing videos on their YouTube channel of 2015 themes, and every day Pirates isn't included with them.
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I agree, but hadn't said anything similar earlier because I didn't have time to write an essay this long. It's funny that Lego 'purists' will complain about the use of single-piece moulds, but then people will also complain that Lego opted for a brick-built solution where they already had a one-piece mould for the same thing...
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So black coat with green underneath and a brown sash? I think that's different enough for what I've got to form a triumvirate of pirate captains. Some of the pictures of 2015 sets are appearing on Brickset, hopefully this means the pictures of the rest of the sets won't be far off.
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Sorry to ask this again, but what colour was the pirate captain's coat? We've had a black one and a red one lately, I'm hoping for something different this time, to make all my pirate captains distinctive.
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I just thought that the word 'kid' could mean 'child' or 'young goat'... The only thing I'm really curious about is, what colour coat does the Pirate captain wear? He had a black coat in BBB and a red coat in the Minifigures series.
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When will they not be confidential? Oh I had another question, the 'kid' that was mentioned... child or goat? I can imagine a chef having livestock on a ship. I guess I've got lots of questions but can wait to see the final set to answer them.
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Do you have the same final picture(s)? Because if that's so it's disappointing, I really believed they would use black and white sails to make it more distinctive from the BBB. Hmm maybe I will just bricklink the new pirate torsos.
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What are the colour of the sails? Edit: I think this is the snowboard cap:
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When I google image search for 'sailing ships' a good portion of them have white hulls, which is why it seems an acceptable colour to me. Maybe these ships are too modern for our Pirate Golden Age era but if I don't know better then I don't think kids will either.
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I wasn't actually sure to begin with but I think it is actually dark brown, which unfortunately looks like the most common colour for it to appear in. If they make a D2C set with either another Imperial Flagship scale ship or a smaller ship in an Imperial Trading Post style set I wouldn't mind for it to have either a black or a white hull, since I don't have any ships in those colours. I think black is unlikely though because it's a very Piratey colour and I doubt they'll do another pirate ship soon, but white is very possible. Dark blue would also be good too, but as has been discussed it seems more likely that they'll recycle an older colour.
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I see the colours as just part of the Pirate theme, the same way that Friends has a very distinctive colour scheme. Ships are brown, forts are white with red bricks, pirates have red and black colours on their ships, soldiers are either red or blue, everything used to have yellow features but that has been replaced with beige, ships used to have white features but don't any more, etc. Apart from the odd colour like the green cannon flaps on the Skull's Eye Schooner, the Pirate Theme has always had a particular palette that has evolved slightly over time. I do think the colour differences are more than people are giving credit for, though. Dark brown instead of brown, red instead of dark red, dark tan (I think) instead of tan, and much more dark tan on the new model than tan on the old. The roof of the cabin is dark tan instead of brown. The sails I expect to change. They've changed pretty much everything they could while staying within the Pirate-theme palette.
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I don't think we'll see a giant Pirate ship this time around, that would mean the pirates got two ships and the soldiers got zero, which doesn't work with Lego's Team A Versus Team B dynamic. Personally this time around rather than getting another large Imperial Flagship I'd like an Imperial Trading Post type set with a well designed harbour building and a smaller ship, either Merchant or Soldier, preferably the former. I already have a large Imperial Flagship and unless there was a serious difference of some kind, I wouldn't necessarily feel the need to get another one. The two Bounty ships are small enough and different enough that I'd want both.
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Very true. So many people have complained that the BB is a step down from the BBB, when they are more or less equivalent... the fine details are different, but the level of build is the same. And while the price point of the 'fort' is much too low, the set is perfectly adequate for that price point. But if the low price point means that these sets sell well and encourage Lego to continue the Pirate theme, then I think it's a worthwhile strategy. I think it might be a case of everyone having seen the red and white sails first, and after that the white and black sails look 'wrong' just because they are different. I've been using my copy of the BB picture with black and white sails for reference for a week now and after a period of 'wrong'-ness I think they really do suit the ship.
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I was going to say that there are probably impulse sets that haven't been listed yet, but 2010 Castle had two impulse sets and 2013 Castle had none, so maybe there won't be any. I'm not holding my breath for an exclusive set either next year, I think the trend is to not do them as much either. Still, there's always the chance that this will finally be an ongoing theme, and/or that there will be a lovely D2C ship or harbour/fort set.
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Sorry, I mean the rear wall. I can't remember having seen Lego make a prison cell of any kind that wasn't fully enclosed, which is one of the main reasons I don't think the set is finished. Oh wait, I see what you mean, the part leaning against the side is the rear wall. I thought it was the side wall, and it was leaning like that because it was being popped out.
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Hmm yes the builds are almost identical, but the minifigs and pieces of the prelims are also a lot more advanced, the castle set even has the final design on the shield. The movie set would probably have been much more advanced in design to tie in with the Movie itself. Having said that, all of the other preliminary images I can find by searching 'Lego preliminaries' on Google closely match their final counterparts, so maybe I'm clutching at straws. My gut instinct tells me that some of the sets, particularly the forts, are unfinished (I just can't imagine them releasing a set with a tower on four pillars with no walls, and a prison with no back), but can't back that up with evidence from other prelim images.
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Why do people keep saying that apart from the torso printings and flags these are the finished models? I would just like to see any comparison between a preliminary image and a final set, even for a non-pirate set. I can't recall the preliminary images for the 2009 pirates but I seem to remember noticing significant changes for the final sets.
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I just remembered that there already is a chameleon in Rapunzel's castle. Although it might be too 'Friendsified' an animal to be included with the pirates. Also, there is such a thing as a tree frog, so the frog standing on a tree isn't necessarily too incongruous.
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The outpost does look like they were given a random assortment like the Brickmaster set and asked to make a small fortification out of it, but as LOTR343 says, these are prelims. I think if this were confirmed as the final set I would share some of the disappointment of other people, but for now I'm happy to stay positive about the things that I do like and optimistic that the final version of these sets will be even better.
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Also, has anyone speculated on what the bowler hat could be a stand in for? I notice no one is wearing a tricorn in this wave, so it could be a new tricorn. Although if that were the case, why wouldn't they just use the old tricorn as a stand in... Whatever it is, I'm just excited that there appear to be more secrets to be revealed.
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I disagree, the BBB had almost no red in and it had red sails, the presence of lots of red bricks suggests to me that the sails will be a different colour from red. I've been looking at my version of the BB with the sails tinted from red to black and it really does look 'right' for the ship to me. I agree that the shape is the same and so are a lot of the structural elements, but every minor detail that could have been changed has been changed. The hull appears to be the darker shade of brown that the IF had. It doesn't include any log bricks or fence pieces. It seems to have one door to the cabin rather than two. It has round bricks projected from the side of the ship. It doesn't have jousting bars to fence off some of the areas. The cabin appears to be slightly shorter, but the image says it has 725 bricks to BB's 592, so it hopefully has a lot of fine detail we can't see. We'll have to see the final images of course, a lot of this is just speculation. The one thing I agree with a lot of people is that I would have preferred larger sets, including one large fort instead of medium and small fort-sized units. That is disappointing, but hopefully this is the start of an ongoing Pirate theme rather than just a one-off like 2009 Pirates. Although I think there's a large probability that we'll see another D2C ship for the soldiers, although this is also just speculation.
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Hmm nope, to me the parts that are identical are the parts that are required to make the ship look like a ship, and mean the ships will compliment each other nicely.
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I opened the Brick Bounty into Pixelmator (poor person's Photoshop) and quickly changed the sails to black and white, it didn't look too bad, definitely made it look less like Brickbeard's Bounty. Then I looked for other pirate ships with black and white sails, and observed that the Skull's Eye Schooner also has the figurehead of the skeleton wearing a bicorn holding a cutlass... I feel almost sure of it now, that the Brick Bounty will be to the Skull's Eye Schooner what the Brickbeard's Bounty was to the Black Seas Barracuda.
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I think the BB looks the same as the BBB for the same reason that most cars these days look almost identical — after a long period of evolution they have reached a kind of optimal design. Any ship this size produced by Lego is going to have the same shape because that is the optimal shape for a ship to be in — same number of sails and everything. Complaining that the two ships look similar is like complaining that all the cars in Town have four wheels, a windscreen and a steering wheel. But if you look at the fine details they are actually quite different, apart from the sails which are clearly a placeholder. And if the ship has black and white sails, Fingers crossed, I think it will really bring out the colour scheme of the rest of the ship.
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I think Islanders is the kind of subtheme that might come one or two years after the first wave, they will start with clearly defined pirate/soldier sets. I don't understand why people are so upset about these sets? Unlike Itaria, I strongly believe that a lot of these sets are incomplete. The fort set, for example, seems to have a tower supported only by four pillar bricks. If it stays that way it would be disappointing, but it seems so unlike Lego to have such a weakly built structure that I'm willing to guess that there are still parts missing. Same for the jail, it doesn't have a back. Have they ever had a jail that isn't fully enclosed?
