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That was due to the disorder he suffered, not from a suit the assassin would've been wearing.

That has already been answered. Oooh, sorry. Yes. The lamps do count as overhang. As much as I love them, you'll have to move or remove them. A rule is a rule. Sorry.

I do trust you. But that sort of thing is significant... This is all so confusing!

Whoa whoa whoa. That's very significant.

Like I said, we're trying something. If we keep the sinisters vote and we start finding them and their numbers dwindle, they will have to fight back on this. I know it's not a perfect plan, it's certainly not completely thought out, but it's something to work on for now. That's certainly a possibility, but you can always unproxy and vote for whoever you want. You know how easy it is. You proxied your vote to me, and then removed it to vote against our investigator, remember?

Perhaps the shadow of the doorway is causing it to look darker, just like my torso looked dark tan in the other picture. What do our pajamas look like, I wonder...

But you have blue arms, yellow hand and are suspcious. We are talking about the hand in the picture, you block of wood. The hand holding the machete that killed Martin... Now we're playing, "I'm too stupid to be Sinister." And in this picture we see Tam Tam Timmers murdering Martin with a machete...

The picture shows that Perry has no night action, is does not confirm his allegiance. Furthermore, both space twins and Petey have yellow hands... Someone should tell Dr. Blitzheifer that a lobotomy is just the removal of the frontal lobe, not the whole head.

I can't tell you why you should trust me. You have to decide that on your own. Do you ask a wild tiger if you can trust it? Or do you watch it's behavior and learn things about it before trying to interact? Silly nurse, thinking that there's such a possible answer to why I should be trusted. I shouldn't be. Nobody should. We can only trust our instincts and make the best choice we see possible. So, yes nurse, pay more attention to what has been said and you tell me if you can trust me. Only a fool believes that can be told why they should trust. What a silly exercise you ask me to participate in. You seem more sinister by the moment. That's a great list to start with. I agree with you. What about them? I have been talking about them. Don't you read? I have an entire list separating everyone into categories of trusted, not trusted, and unsure. So, now you are finally asking questions. Good for you. But they have already been asked. So add something or shut up. Read our thorough discussion, make decisions on your own or bring new information. But do your research before one more question that fog has already been lifted from. Take notes if you have to. I love you. Sorry I yelled.

She misspelled color. She's talking about the color of you arm, not your collar. Mr. Nowhere's hands are light gray, so I don't think that's him in the picture. Petey's face is dark gray. Do his hands match? If Petey and Mr. Nowhere are pulling a fast one on us...they're brilliant.

Do you read what we write first Nurse?? The plan is to discuss it as a group and agree who to vote and Salvatore will vote that person. If he doesn't comply, we can unproxy. He doesn't have to hint, we'll see his vote. Have you not even been here the last few days? Are you unaware of how the game works? Or are you sinister trying to spread confusion?? You would probably understand more if you listen to what we are saying. half the reason these threads get so rambly is because people keep asking the same damb questions over and over. Pay attention people!

You are an incredibly intelligent person. You know how not to raise red flags and how to appear innocent. You have been quiet, flying under the radar, not posting often and not contributing to theories or progressing our conversations in anyway with a typically smug "you people talk too much." Well, those who are trying to avoid detection by not participating are the most suspicious to me right now. It seems all the people we have voted off have been very active, yet trustworhty. The active players trying to find solutions are the ones I trust. It is possible that we will all proxy our votes to Salvatore. That could mean one of two things (or more...) Either the Sinister are playing chicken with us, hoping that if everyone proxies their vote we will assume we're convicting an innocent and change our target, and they are willing to sacrifice one of their own in order to not show themselves if we are right. Or we are wrong about Havel and they are happily proxying their vote to Salvatore knowing that he will kill an innocent.

It does. But, we're trying something and looking for reactions. It's something... Of course we should be careful about the results and these points you bring up are good ones to think about. Salvatore isn't at any greater risk than he was before. We will always have a most trusted to proxy to. Martin's investigation revealed Salvatore as innocent and that leaves a big target on him, regardless of this proxy thing. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work but we have to be proactive.

I trust Tim Tam (Lord Arjay) but not Tim Tim (Quarryman).

But, it can still show us something. We start it now and stick with it, they can't always be happy to vote out their own. And we were running out of time. Getting a private message to everyone who we think trustable takes too much time, especially if they don't all agree. And what if I was telling a Sinister about my plan, thinking they were an innocent. I already had people I trust not fully on board with it, so this seemed the next best move. Something bold to move forward. We've already had some resistance to it from one member who we all thought previously suspicious anyway.

If we need to vote off Ricardo we can simply unproxy him.

I think you are right.

I don't a grenade could blow you up...and stack you into a closet... Did anyone notice that in the garden today were the deceased and a polar bear? Where's Hurley? Libby? Is this the Dharma Initiative psych ward? Are we in purgatory?

It does skew the result, but we're running out of time. Time to make a stand and be more aggressive about weeding out these quiet ones. We can even count who proxies latest as suspicious, just as some of the more suspicious, quiet, members have been voting later into the day after a majority is inevitable. (Granted, the also knew we were voting out non-sinister. However, a pattern of voting late, makes a late vote seems less suspicious later... This game situation is going to drive me nuts.) I would like to point out that the vigilante killer who took out ThePenguin is different from the previous night killer. Last night was the first time that killer has used his/her gun. That leaves two killers out there. One is for the Sinister, the one who took out Martin and Bear. Whose side is the killer who killed Sparky Trunks on?

I feel horrible. However, theories were tested. We don't have a solid result from those tests but we have another direction to test. However, we have a power at our disposal. We can use the proxy tool to our advantage to see if we can weed out any Sinister. Follow along with me: Professor Diem suggested this and I think it's time to make it public. Yesterday we attempted to get a block of people to proxy their votes to Dragonator to see who would respond to one person having a great deal of power. It didn't really take off but I think the Professor's idea has merit. 1. We trust Salvatore. Martin was our investigator and investigated Salvatore and found him Insane. We know Martin got accurate results because his result for Shadows was correct. 2. It is highly unlikely that Salvatore has been converted since his investigation. On each night since Martin found him to be Insane the Sinister have killed someone. It is highly unlikely that the Sinister have time to kill someone and convert in just one evening. 3. If we are all in agreement to vote for Havel/sok then why not proxy our votes to one person to place that vote? 4. If we want to show unity and try to weed out the Sinister we can all proxy our votes to one who we trust and see who doesn't join us. We have the power in our proxy to see how the Sinister will respond. Is this tactic something we should have or could have planned behind the scenes? I don't know. Are there flaws in the plan? Maybe. But, we can't just sit around all day and just guess. Let's try something. We have plenty of time to unproxy if we find it's not working. And this is why I proxied to Salvatore yesterday. So proxy: Salvatore/Dragonator Because Petey investigated him and found him not insane. He found Bear and King insane and they both turned out to be not insane. So, the theory is, his results are opposite what they should be.

Not at all. Anybody could see that I had plenty of time to unproxy my vote and change it. The way I see it, I voted for the King. ...and take full responsibility for my vote being placed for him.

Absolutely.

The Sinister were smart to target Bear for murder last night since we were convinced we would vote him off today because of Petey's investigation results. They knew we wouldn't protect him since we were convinced of his guilt... Sorry, just thinking out loud. The only reason I hesitate to vote for Havel is because you may be a paranoid investigator, an insane investigator or whatever the other kind is that gets random results. We need to consider the options (metagame on: it wouldn't surprise me in a game in an insane asylum to have an insane investigator :metagame off) Your results are all Sinister. We can take that off the table since we have a Not Sinister result. So you are not paranoid. Your results are opposite. Your results are random. I forget the names of these roles and I can't check the mafiascum wiki Journal of Psychiatric Mafia Role Disorders right now because IT blocks most forum sites the library is locked right now. Either way, we need to consider both possibilities. We do have the info that two results you got (if you're telling the truth, which I'm inclined to believe you) were opposite, so I hope that's how it works. I would like to be able to vote out a Sinister today!

What the hell? It seems like most active people are innocent, at least they're very believable. We still have a blue arm. And a host of patients who post, but don't really contribute and are flying under the radar. TimTam Tommers (or whatever the hell)/ Quarryman has a blue arm and is flying under the radar. "Oh you guys talk too much, I'll vote along with you once the majority has already passed." Also, I believe ThePenguin's killer was on our side. ThePenguin was highly suspicious and it's nice that the killer got him out of the way without us having to waste a vote on him, in my opinion. Sorry, I forgot about the voting. For now, unvote: Mr. Nowhere/Scouts I really need to think before placing my vote. I've been suspicious of Havel, so I imagine this will be easy. I just hate to unvote and re-vote right away.

Note that they also spell it LEGO with all caps.