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Those are the quotes from our PMs minus the quotes about targeting Scott. I'll post those later. What I don't understand, Pierre, is why you went silent with me and offered no further defense seeing what was said about you in thread. You laid back and basically said nothing. Furthermore, if people believe Pierre, why aren't we focusing on Barbara and her supposed tracker? Mary, I'm trying to discern if you're worth saving. If you're just a vanilla Townie, it's worth lynching you to clear up the idea that I'm trying to distract everyone from lynching you. If you have a Night Action though, I don't want to see you lynched.

Lets not forget that Pierre could've been Scott's killer. So if he's Scum it doesn't clear this other phantom result-seeing tracker.

The majority has spoken. Pierre (CallMePie) can now speak for himself.

Well, then Legonater is 9 and you're ten, but your request is somewhat biased. Of course you want the other lynch candidate revealed. I'd like to hear from a trusted ally before I continue. I think there's enough call for Lynette's name to reveal it. The question is, would Mary sacrifice Lynette for herself at this point? If Lynette is lying, she's likely the killer. Why would Scummy Mary want Lynette voted out instead? And yes, Mary, you have been playing like megablocks.

OK, crap. The argument was distracting me as well. These people appear to have asked for Lynette's identity: 1. 2. 3. 4. Hey Scummy, your mark-up is weird. ^ 5. 6. 7. That's seven. Maybe more. If 11 people want to hear it, I'll reveal her and let her fend for herself. It is interesting that not more people are asking for her name. Several people have gone really quiet, making me think they're waiting for something...perhaps Lynette's reveal. The conversation in the last few pages has been dominated by all the same people. Taking me and Barbara and our differing views on Mafia tactics and philosophy out of the conversation and you see about the same 5 or 6 people posting only. Very interesting. Yesterday, you offered us a useless and long analysis. Appeared helpful, but not much substance. Today, you're sticking to the Alice and Mary thing even though much more interesting info is out there to discuss. Ping. Yes, it is confusing and odd. Check my quotes again. I quoted one directly from her conversation with Zangara that seems to mention needing to get the diamond first. Now that seems to have changed. She needs to steal it first before them vs. others can steal it back and they all win. While some people thought it was crazy that Bob would make set numbers clues to our affiliation, I find it hard to believe there's that many roles out there that can inadvertently investigate...in addition to our day investigator who may or may not even be blockable.

Yes, skill vs. luck. I thought she was acting odd and I specifically thought her odd behavior meant she was hiding something, so I tricked her into revealing that she has a Night Action. I call is skill. Maybe I'm giving myself too much credit? If everyone wants her revealed, then I'll do it. Barbara's tracker is also weird, though. Especially considering Barbara seems to think she was the Scummier of the two, but only mentioned that when prompted. I agree that they can't be on the same side, but what if Barbara's is the Scum tracker and mine is actually the Scum killer? That's another possibility. Lynette took quite a while to reveal her role to me. She eventually said she targeted Scott, but it could be because she actually killed him. She wouldn't say "I'm the killer". She thinks she may have been caught targeting Scott so admits to targeting him, but was actually killing him and not tracking. See how they could both be Scum? Or all three of them? If I hear a majority asking for Lynette's name, I'll reveal it.

Over-react much? I didn't try to drum up a lynch for you. I didn't even give anyone your name. Your opinion about my game play is subjective. You can't control what I do. Learn to accept that things are going to happen in these games that you can't control and you may have more fun. You're just too uptight. The game will be as fun as you make it. I am, however, surprised that people are still focusing on Mary and Alice, as crazy as your story is, and for that matter, Lynette's story. You don't seem too concerned with Lynette either. She hasn't done much to inspire confidence in private since I first wrote the play either. But, there are two things that continue to bother me about what you ... well, I just refer to her in the third person as her "megabluck this shit" attitude makes me doubt she'll be responding to me at all. The two things that still bother me about Barbara are: 1. Her initial explanation mentions other 3rd-party factions that she needs to get the diamond before they do. Now that doesn't seem to be the case. Her story contradicts itself. At first it sounds like she may be a part of a 3rd-party faction that is racing to get the diamond before another third party faction does. Now, they can all work together. Sounds fishy. 2. When I asked her which tracker seemed more Scummy, she said that the one who tracked her does. That's extremely odd since she hasn't done anything about these suspicions. When I said it was Lynette who was likely to lie about tracking Scott and maybe actually killed him, Barbara came back and said that her tracker offered to be targeted by Barbara tonight to prove that they are Town. So, why has their been no pursuit from Barbara into this tracker that she thinks is the Scummier of the two? Why continue to focus on me, for revealing info that can only help the Town? I also find it suspicious that Barbara has dropped her suspicions of me. All morning she was calling me Scum. Now, I reveal her story (not her) and now the accusations have all stopped? If you're neutral, Barbara, isn't it still possible I'm Scum? Do you still think I am? Or have your suspicions completely shifted to being pissed that I told your story (anonymously)?

I didn't out your role. You did that. That's what these games are about: discovery. I disagree that I ducked up your game at all. You revealed yourself. And if you are a killer and this ducked up your game, then good. And when I hear there's an admitted neutral who claims to have targeted a Townie who is now dead, I will most likely reveal the story to everyone, every time. Call that being a dick if you want. I just call it my strategy. So, have any other Jewel Thieves contacted you?

Please calm down. You're blowing this all way out of proportion and letting your feelings get hurt over imagined slights. I said "I think he kills to get the diamond". That's not inaccurate. I thought that, at the time and I still thinks it's possible. Saying I think that is not inaccurate as that is my thought. I didn't make that part of the play, I made that part of my opinion. You are the one who is framing things inaccurately. Your personal shit? It's a game. You revealed yourself. Where and how exactly did I "dominate the way things are discussed". So you informed people yourself to clear up what? My opinion? That wasn't necessary. Look at the facts from other people's perspective (or maybe just mine): You're a neutral jewel thief who admits to being targeted and are corroborating it with a tracker who supposedly saw your target and your result. I'm not denying it's possible. Bob has done some questionable things in the past. Anyway, those are the facts we have. Can you see why I would question it? You could be lying about a couple of things in there. Can you see how someone would think that? This is what I'm told you said (bold added for emphasis): So, you seem to be contradicting yourself about how the role works when it comes to who gets the diamond first. Maybe you can clarify that.

I thought you originally said that you have to get the diamond before these other thieves do. So, how would pooling together work exactly?

Barbara is being rather confusing about it. First of all, this tracker of hers claims to get Barbara's Night Action results as well. That's weird. It came in between those two posts of mine you quoted. Barbara is getting overly defensive and still trying to paint me as some sort of villain, claiming one second I outed her in thread, which she did herself, and the next second calling me a bully she needed to take her fate into her own hands from before I ... I don't know what. Anyway, in private she's saying some weird things about the tracker she's referring to contacting me, which never happened. I'm not sure why she thinks that but she clearly said there was a separate tracker who targeted her and then contacted her. Weird... Something doesn't add up and there's something odd with both claimed trackers...

Calm down. I put a summary in because I know you don't like the plays and you still bitch about it. Oh well, I tried. You're being quite over-dramatic about it, anyway. I'm a bully now? Writing an anonymous play about your weird claim is bullying? Breath, dude. I think you're over-reacting. One second, you say I outed you, the next second you claimed to have taken your fate into your own hands. So, which is it? Did you take your fate into your own hands or did I reveal your identity? Sorry, I always forget how sensitive you are. Right, it's just as weird. You don't believe the set number correlation but you're more than willing to believe the tracker who sees your result? How convenient. Why are you so trusting of this tracker? There is the other possible explanation that you made the person up, or you're both Scum and working together, or maybe some other explanation. Don't know, but I don't agree that they have to be a tracker.

What kind of tracker gets your target and your result? No, you outed yourself. The story was completely anonymous until you claimed to be Sam Byck. Nice try.

I would like to hear more from her as well. Well, I'd like to think it was skill. But, basically, yes. It was a shot in the dark and she incriminated herself. She claims to have targeted Scott and gotten the result that Scott targeted nobody. Barbara claims this tracker targeted her and saw her targeting Scott. Let's gather as much info as we can before revealing Lynette. There's a slim chance she might be telling the truth, although I doubt it. Just considering she told me she targeted Scott, and I assume she was covering her megablocks in case Scott was watched and I really did know who she targeted. And her reasons for targeting Scott are somewhat lame. Though, I admit, that's subjective...

Mine seems to be the Scummier one. I don't know the identity of Barbara's but I'm trying to figure out when this tracker contacted Barbara and why it wasn't mentioned before. Although, I think I know who Barbara's tracker may be. And it would make a lot of sense if I'm right.

What I find odd is that nobody seems to be too concerned about the two tracker claims. However, many people are stuck on the idea that I'm supposedly insulting everyone. Geez, you people are all retards.

No, because Holly's point was that my behavior was not odd.

No, I refuse to try patience. I don't have the time. As for asking people to quote things to me, I'm asking to quote things they're saying I've done. Asking them to quote myself back to me. I know they can't since their accusations are false. These are insults? They show arrogance? I've told Scott his face is ugly and then followed it with . That was probably a serious insult. The other quote is about someone who didn't read what I said. Again, I have no patience for that. I'm interrogating a small matter? Aren't you the one saying that my "arrogance" and "insults" were making you suspicious of me. I've answered to that now. So... where exactly am I interrogating? You're seeing things in a rather magnified way...a common Scum tell.

Where did I "tear into" Babs exactly? Quote it, please. And make sure it's "towards the start" and not the "shit don't stink" I accused her of after she went after her silly suspicion of me again. I'd really like to see where I "tore into" Babs from the beginning. Speaking of Babs, she claims a tracker contacted her. I've been in contact with a tracker. I'm sure they are not the same person. The one I've been talking to claims to have targeted Scott. But let's lynch Mary.

What exactly is arrogant about my behavior and where have I insulted anyone?

How am I acting strange, exactly? And what does ">inb4" mean? Is that 4337 speak?

I copied the wrong part of your post. You said neutrals help the Town. I disagree. As to the part of your post I did quote: yes, Barbara is smart and could be trying to pull a cover for being a killer. I agree to that, yes.

OK, but I find it easier to be less aggressive if people are reading everything that's said. Or at least making sense. If lynching Mary yesterday was such a priority, why didn't all the people who voted for Jordan vote for Mary instead? Again, I just placed a vote for Jordan so as not to jump on the bandwagon. Mary certainly hasn't done much since yesterday's voting started to inspire much confidence in her and there wasn't much substance in what I got out of her by PM, so I am fine with lynching Mary. But, look at what I've learned. Why would I vote for Mary considering the evidence I've found on two other people? It's on her now, because the Town wants to see her dead body to see if I'm trying to avoid a Scum lynch. Fine, let's lynch her then. Good idea. See, it's hard to not be sarcastic about that. But man up. A little sarcasm never hurt anybody. Isn't that exactly what I just did? But I was right about her behavior being odd. She's been hiding something. She was off. When I looked back over her behavior it struck me as suspicious and now we can all see that my suspicions were at least partially correct, she has claimed a neutral Jewel Thief that targeted Scott. How can that be distracting when now you can all look at what I said and what she said and consider if she's worthy of a lynch or not? What exactly was I potentially distracting from? That's another thing that gets me aggressive: false accusations. I wasn't distracting, I was pushing for discovery. And my suspicions were right. She's got a crazy-megablocks roleclaim there. Even if every word of it is true, it's crazy. The Boy Wonder is a man. You want me to quote myself to you? The day is only 6 pages long. Why don't you go back and read it? See why I get aggressive? I'm not a fan of lazy people. That gets my aggression going. How often do we see neutral players in these games who aren't serial killers?

Then lynch Mary to find out. I don't care. I've brought you the info that could better inform a decision, but fine, let's vote off Mary because she didn't see her set number. That's a much stronger case than someone who claims neutral and admits to targeting Scott. Or someone that claims tracker and admits to targeting Scott. Three people targeting one person isn't likely why?? We can't use Scott. Scott is dead. Lynette's claim of tracker seems more suspicious than neutral Jewel Thief that only has to target one Scum in order to win? I think he kills his targets in order to get the diamond. If he can admit that and proves he's working with us, fine. I have said several times that tracker is a Scummy claim and Lynette's reasoning for targeting Scott isn't great. I'd still like to hear why Barbara thought Scott was Scum... I can see why he would say he was just odd days. If I'm the Godfather of the Thieves, then he would want to avoid me killing him Night One, thinking he couldn't investigate again until Night Two. That's insurance, I get it. I'm not too worried about him right now. I'd love for him to investigate someone and get a Scum result, though. If there's another investigator out there, perhaps they investigated someone as Town and can work with that person to somehow get us the message that there are two claimed investigators out there. I doubt we have a day and night investigator. If there is a Town night investigator, I would venture to guess that the Scum have a day investigator to find this jewel thief. Are you asking Barbara? Barbara told Zangara he targeted Scott. Hello? That's the whole basis of my suspicion. Try to follow along. Why? Why would everyone need to know I was investigated as Town on Day One? So the Scum could kill me right away? There was no reason yesterday to tell you all about that. Well, believe it. That's how it happened. Convenient? Hardly. It's only convenient if I'm trying to prevent Mary from being lynched, which I'm not. But, Babs is the neutral Jewel Thief! How was pressing her for info distracting if she's actually a neutral and not working for the Town? That's not distracting, that's getting somewhere. I didn't know about the two claims when I restated my case against Alice (and brought further evidence against Mary, who I am supposedly repeatedly trying to save). Oh, is that what I'm doing? Bringing solid information against two other players vs. the flimsy accusations against a noob kid who repeatedly makes weird mistakes in these games. Yes, fine. Let's just lynch Mary to distract from the evidence we have about the others. Great idea. Fine. megabluck it. Let's let two potential killers off into the night while we lynch a numbnutz who didn't realize he had a set number. vote: Mary (The Boy Wonder) Why don't we just crash the ship into an iceberg while we're at it? Let's distract ourselves from people admitting to be neutral or the scummy claim of tracker and admitting to targeting the dead Scott. Great. Good idea. Wahoo. Let's just huff kerosene and shove matches up our nose since we have such little use for our brains. Yes, the problem there is that I just found her behavior off so I said to her "What were you doing outside of your cabin?" and she incriminated herself. I have no information from anyone about her being out of her cabin. I just tricked her into claiming. OK, so a tracker claimed to you as well? :hmpf: Where exactly did I defend Mary? Let's see these quotes where I am "very defensive ... indeed" of Mary? I'm looking forward to this. Can't wait to see them all.

OK. Cool.