Vincent Denis

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Jean was pretty smart and I think he had a decent ability to read people so it's worth noting that he didn't like Fabien's contributions. I don't think he was fond of Robin's either. This was the hammer. Reading it again, it seems less scummy than I remembered. Maybe just because it came from Justin and I think everything Justin says is scummy. The justification is what pings me. Did you not realize you were hammering? On the other hand, in favor of Justin, I don't see a scum hammering one of these words and being explicit about not thinking it's the right lynch. As a reminder, this was Jean's original suspicion about Joshua. Tweedledee and Tweedledum are Andrew and Justin. Jean's suspicion revolved around Andrew poke-voting Michael but leaving the heat off of Joshua, who was also not posting at that point. Also, as a reminder, Daniel thought Joshua's contributions were "right on." I find it interesting, obviously, that one of the people Daniel has been defending has flipped Scum. I can maybe chalk that up to what he's expressed, that the style here threw him off and he thought the scum were the ones goofing around and it blinded him to what was actually happening. He has claimed town jailkeeper, so if he is Town, it looks like he's been reading things backwards. Or he's in on the game. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* *Fwom fwom fwom fwom* I'm trying to keep my posts 30-40 less than Daniel to really not fall into a shame spiral. To be fair to you, I had PMed Jean last night about suspicions and he said he was less suspicious of you because you voted for Joshua early. That makes me more suspicious of you because then you disappeared all day and I found your vote a little petulant. But, I do trust Jean's reads, so perhaps I'm in a rose garden with my suspicions of you. I'll at least consider that a little bit. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* We got one! Time to comb over yesterday's thread and see all the people who resisted voting for Joshua. I seem to remember a suspicious hammer. Poor, poor Jean. He will be greatly missed. We'll avenge you, Lieutenant! *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

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*Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* He can't unless he wants to violate the rules. Part of me feels guilty, as I typically do about lynches, because if Joshua is who I think he is, this is a typical reaction to being incorrectly lynched. However, at the same time I think his assessment of The Enterprise is off. The scum in that game, even the second iteration, hung back and only began posting more when prompted. So I'm 50/50 on this with sincerest apologies if you're really frustrated by all of this, Joshua. I believe the frustration, either way. Apologies more if it's town frustration. Important: Just judging from the last two Pirates games I would encourage everyone to hold off on their opinion regarding Alex's vanilla claim. Just think about it for a second... *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom* Why'd you edit your post? *Fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Me? Innocent anonymous Vinvent Denis? You know, I should apologize to everyone for Daniel's actions too, because...karma. Totally my fault. Come on, you were all thinking it. Who is your biggest suspicion then? *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

Daniel, I was hoping the lack of tuba-playing would prove my sincerity, but if not let me expand on it. I use the tactic of sarcasm and pushing people to try to trip up scum. It went too far this time and it was out of frustration that I was expressing in a disrespectful way. I have tried to not get personal since it became clear you felt I was getting too personal. I apologize further if I've failed in that attempt. Yes, I expressed glee at the PM being posted where I called you a cunt. That is something I never would've gone in and called you in a serious manner and it wasn't meant for you. It was meant for some humor between Aiden and me. I apologize for that as well. I've been called a lot of things in these games and I don't take it personally anymore, or at least I try not to...at least I tell myself I try not to. Not realizing you were a new player to the forums when I first started in was insensitive on my part. I mean every word of this so I hope you at least know that, even if you do not accept the apology.

It was sincere. I meant it.

I'll take responsibility for my part in this. I'm truly sorry I suggested you didn't understand the complexity of the human brain. It was inappropriate. I'm sorry I was rude.

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* There was no explicit question. You said I'm either scum or a fool and given those two options, I'm a fool because I'm not scum. If anybody needs the screenshots, I've made them. But only if someone rational asks. I've been leaning town on you, in case you're curious. I apologize ahead of time if that sets Daniel off on you next. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom* It's also inaccurate. Daniel isn't saying I should've sent my conversation with Aiden to five people. He's saying I should've post my conversation with Daniel to five people. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* I have not lied about anything in this game. Now my entire Inbox is out there for everyone to see. All of it true. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Nope. You did it perfectly. I'd hate to see one of my favorite words with asterisks in the good spots. Thank you! *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* Quit putting words in my mouth. I said censored. I used some words throughout that he may feel compelled to censor and I prefer they sit out in their full glory. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* Be patient, Opie. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooooooooooom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* Aiden, make sure you leave my first message in, un-censored please. Thank you. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* Looking over the day thread, these are the people who appear to be using Daniel's constant posts against me and whoever agrees with me as cover from looking at everyone else. Joshua, until prompted Andrew, although he responded directly to Jean when accused Robin Aiden, although he mentions a suspicion of Fred Fred, who has a few posts just discussing game mechanics Emmett Justin That's 7 of us. I thought that would be more revealing, but almost half are only paying attention to the conflict between Daniel and me. They're not all scum, obviously, but this is really hindering our ability to look at the whole picture. I'm not scum, so Daniel you are wasting your and everybody's time and energy here. Point out where I use "trust" and "Aiden" in the same sentence. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* Would it help if I just posted the conversation? I'm more than willing to do so but I don't want to just dump another unwanted wall of text on this thread. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

Guess I'm a fool, then. *Fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Oh my God, what? I'm neither scum nor a mason. My reasoning for sending the messages to Aiden has already been stated but I'll state it again for the guy who berates everyone for not reading everything, but doesn't appear to be reading everything himself: If Daniel was scum, the one person who would clearly not be on his team was Aiden. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma Jesus... Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*fwom fwom fwom fwom* Where? *fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Since someone rational has asked, It was Aiden. Aiden was the only other person I spoke with and relaying the messages to him was a concrete plan as if anybody is town, if Daniel is scum (besides me, of course) is Aiden. They're clearly not on the same team. I'll copy the PMs if you really want to see them. Hold the phone. Something just hit me like a ton of bricks. I apologize because this is likely going to set Daniel off, although he seems to find any reason to go off, so I probably don't need to take responsibility. I just saw this message again and it super-pings me. It's also super-meta, so please tell me if I'm thinking too hard, or about it the wrong way. In what world would he make this guess at my identity? If he's a noob, and I believe he is who he says he is, then how would he guess I'm Hinckley unless someone else had made the same guess and said it to him. Hinckley played as Ethan in the last game and the style he chose to play in that game was vastly different from how I'm posting. This came 24 hours into the night phase. That's plenty of time for the scum team to be like "I think you're talking to Hinckley." I don't immediately understand how he would associate me with Hinckley but I do know that I'm posting differently than he posted in the last game. Should I ignore this or is there something there? And if anybody wants to see the PMs with Aiden, just ask. I don't want to dump another wall of text into this thread unless people really want to see it. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* Why should I? You said you caught me in half a dozen lies. The one you're referencing isn't a lie. I didn't tell you I was PMing our conversation to another player. So what? You got 5 more supposed lies somewhere? If anybody else has any concern about it, I'm more than happy to post that PM conversation as well. Makes sense to me why I copied it to just one person, but unless anyone besides Daniel needs to see it, I'm not going to contribute to his endless, confusing posts. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwomma fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* It's been answered. I answered it before it was asked. On page 2, when I posted the PM conversation. I don't know what your question has to do with anything? I haven't lied about anything. You're saying you caught me lying about mentioning that you should be PMing people, that you brought it up and you didn't. I brought it up. I told you to PM every player and then you said you already had. In what way am I lying about that? You can't deny that's the way it happened. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*