Vincent Denis

*Fwoooooooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooooooooom* Fuck. This. Game. Prepare yourself for a wall of text. Perhaps the longest wall of text I've ever composed but here goes. OK, I have a potential explanation for where the Scum kill is going. I'll preface this by saying I'm sure I'll be lynched as well I should be. Being blocked on three nights where there was no scum kill, that's a policy lynch. You kind of have to. No hard feelings. But I'm not a killer and I'm not Scum. I'm bulletproof. Do I actually think the Scum have tried to kill me three nights in a row? No. Why would they? I've been abysmally wrong about everything in this game. Daniel wasted most of the first four days, heaping suspicion onto me, all of which was invalid. Why would they want to kill me with him around to create confusion for them to hide behind? Have they been doing what Fabien suggested and not killing? Possibly. If they intended to not kill for three days so we would lynch all three of those blocked players, it worked. Well, it did if I get lynched, which I should. Aiden guessed that I was a PGO or Bomb when I first said my role was more useful if I didn't claim it to everyone and then added that I didn't successfully target anyone. I didn't target anyone because I don't target anyone. I didn't successfully target anyone. I didn't gleefully target anyone. I didn't surreptitiously target anyone. I didn't target anyone. If I said I don't target anyone, I figure the Scum would guess I have a passive role and how many passive roles are there? I figured they would guess, as Aiden did, PGO or Bomb and avoid trying to kill me. I also wanted them to think I did something important so they would try to kill me. I've been trying to get killed because I want them to waste their kill on me. Did that happen three nights in a row? Maybe, but I doubt it. I've asked, in thread, let alone to several people via PM that I not be protected. Because I knew it was a waste of a good protection. That's why I told Daniel that my role was useless if revealed to the wrong person but the Town would succeed without me (because I'm not a watcher or investigator) so I preferred not to be protected. That's also why when Daniel PMed me asking if I wanted to work together, and that felt scummy, I wasn't afraid to tell him to fuck off and threaten that I was going to post his PMs to everyone on Day Two. I wanted to be targeted by the scum kill. Fuck Governor Broadside for telling us to try harder, I've put 100% of myself into this game and it's turned up nothing. I was wrong about Justin, I was wrong about Fabien. I don't see the Scum finding value in killing me, so while it's possible, I wouldn't find myself a viable kill target for the Scum, because if I was Scum I'd want me around. Find this hard to believe? I told you with my first post on Day Two that I was: Go ahead and look back at the thread. I did it before Daniel did it and I did it long before he revealed he had done it and berated us all for being too stupid to do it. Let me take this moment to thank Daniel for so heavily and incorrectly suspecting me that I just had to be blocked on the night this all started. I'm not a killer and I'm not Scum so this has done nothing but waste a block for three days and now potentially get three Townies lynched. The Town has to win this. We have to succeed and overcome what Daniel did to this game. If I get lynched in the process, fine. But, Town, we better fucking win this. There's more, sorry. This is just a technicality but I feel it needs to be addressed. It says "Bulletproof Survivor." The name of my role is Survivor. I'm not a Survivor. As I said before, I went back and forth with Bob a lot when I first got my role PM as that is confusing. But I don't win just by surviving to the end. I'm not neutral. I'm a bulletproof Townie that has apparently been named "Survivor" because I survive every night. After Daniel's behavior on Day One, I hid the entire role and name in my first post on Day Two as I felt I'd be forced to claim at some point. After I made the post I asked Bob if a rolecop would see the name Survivor, which I had been assuming they would. But he said it would only say that I had no action and I was like "Fuck, now I have to do another one so the word "Survivor" doesn't confuse people." But I didn't do it before Daniel revealed he had done it and pride stopped me from making another one after that, so that's why it says "Bulletproof Survivor." I thought if I'd been targeted by a rolecop they'd accuse me of being neutral, which is something Peter called me on Day Two: After Peter posted that, I asked Bob for clarification of how a rolecop would see me. That's all I've got. I highly suspect Trenton and Peter. But take my suspicions with a grain of salt because I haven't been right about jack shit so far. I realize this claim would've helped Fabien yesterday but I really really didn't think he was Town. I'm sorry. If I get lynched, I'm fine with it. Sorry I've sucked this game. I was really hoping it would be fun. It has been challenging, at best. No offense to the host. But that's all my cards on the table. *Fwooom fwooooom, fwom fwomma fwom* Take a sad song and make it better! *Fwom fwomma. fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

A calming lullaby:

I'm here and leaving myself as the hammer. *Fwooooom fwoooooooooom* I hope this isn't sayanara, but if so, so long folks! It was a nice day being able to actually communicate. I'll miss you guys. Also, I'll throw out that if Fabien is some sort of vengeful role, odd that Emmett never voted. Also odd that Aiden kept his vote off of Fabien altogether, but if Aiden thought it was a trap, why would he mention it. So many options. Kind of hope I die. I'll play myself off, just in case. *Fwomma fwomma fwom* with the pumped up kicks *Fwomma fwom fwomma fwom* Outrun my gun! *fwomma fwomma fwom* with the pumped up kicks better *Fwomma fwom* faster than my bullet! Tubist out/potentially...or it's just overthinking...yet again.

Ah, maybe. Good thinking. Maybe that's why he wants to be lynched so badly. So, if that's a possibility, I will take the bullet. Vote: Fabien Bellamy The role says it can be either. The term "Venge Vanillaizer" is also interestingly used. That would also give him reason to want us to hammer him. I'll leave my vote here and go PM the host. If Fabien un-votes himself at the last minute, that will be very telling... *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwomma fwom, fwomma fwom* Outrun my gun! *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Quit telling me what to do like I'm some sort of forum inbred jerk! *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* Which was after I posted this: So, it only proves that you were getting a claim ready. Can I start by saying it's really nice to be coherently accused of something. Thank you again. Let me go on the record as saying, I do not expect not to be blocked, nor do I want to not be blocked. I don't believe anything I've said has been contrary to that idea. Although it happened after your claim, if you were looking for scum to slip up, what did you think of this post? I may be wrong about you, Fabien. I was certainly wrong about Justin. I just find your claim hard to believe. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* How is it useless now? I think the significance of doing that is the earlier you do it, the less likely it is that you are making it up to fit circumstances. Please find it. This could be a point in your favor. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* I've had some additional thoughts (I'm sure you're all so happy about that. ) regarding Fabien claiming vig, if he is scum. The day started with Peter and I being blocked and Daniel was supposed to block Fabien. The typical scum reaction in that position would be to say, "I was blocked last night." No idea what happened. He was intending to go that way, with his first post: Then, he admittedly lurked, supposedly, waiting for a scummo to have a slip of the tongue. It's this first post that makes me think he's definitely scum. He did get it. He tried to make us believe he was as confused as the rest of us would be, minus the other scum players. I think the real reason he lurked was to gauge our responses. As you can see, as Andrew and I went through the Night Actions results, the conclusion still pointed to Fabien. So, he knew he had to claim. I don't believe he waited to reveal it in order to catch Scum. What would that have looked like? Stupid Scummo: I don't get it! We didn't kill Daniel. So, who did? Do you guys have a vigilante? Oops! In the first few hours, Andrew votes for me. No reason for him to claim if I'm getting lynched. He might get the added bonus of me claiming my role. Scum know I'm telling the truth and that I do something cool so they naturally want to know. But then the conversation turns to the most likely explanation being that Daniel and Fabien targeted each other and there was some sort of coin flip that decided the outcome ( ) and now he has to claim if he has a fighting chance. Once he gets the majority votes, he knows the best thing to do is cut their losses and free the kill back up, so he's even lynching himself. Occam's Razor: Fabien is scum. And yet, still my hero. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* This worries me. I thought if anyone could see through the layers of BS I sense in Fabien's responses, it would be you. Everything Fabien has responded with gives me more reason to suspect him. I know this game has exhausted you, but the air is clearer today. There are still some long posts but if you read them, there's more coherence discussion occurring today than ever before in this game. Here's why I'm not buying Fabien's answers: Occam's Razor: Fabien was blocked on Night Three and there was no kill. Later, he admits to being a killer. This used to be an automatic lynch in the "old days." Metagaming the host: There was no vig in Pirates II (the inventor could make a gun or knife or some killy thing). Bob limited PMs because he felt the scum had a hard time in Pirates II. Do you think he'd add a vig when he thought the town might be over-powered in Pirates II? He did reduce the number of town roles, so maybe. I could go either way with this and it's metagaming, but still... Evolving story: Fabien claims to be the vig, roughly 44 hours ago. 18 hours ago he updated that claim with limitations. "I have limited kills." "I can't kill two nights in a row." Must be lynched: Andrew's brain vomit ramblings (I do it too, no offense) are right about one thing. It seems he wants to free up the other scum (1 or 2?) to kill. Fabien claims that lynching him is the only way to prove his claim. Why, exactly? If we block him again and there's a kill...then...that would confirm it? Acting alone: Strongarm killing Daniel was a blessing to this game and I will be forever grateful. But he made the decision unilaterally. There is enough coordination behind the scenes that I feel he should've at least floated the idea to someone. This may be a super weak point, but it was a thought and I can't have a thought without typing it out, so... Contradictory thoughts: Thinks the scum will withhold their kill to implicate innocent Townies who are blocked, yet has the ability to kill. His original theory depends upon there not being another killer in the game. So, why would he float this idea if he has the ability to kill? Hopefully, bullets will make my wall of text easier to read. Every time I go back and read Fabien's claim I waiver over why he would claim if he was scum. Why wouldn't he sit there and let day after day go by with him being blocked and the town not knowing why there aren't kills. I think Andrew's point about freeing up the other scummo to kill might be correct. Let's look at potential Day Six with Fabien and I blocked overnight. There's no kill again. Oh well, then if Fabien is the vig, Vincent must be the scum killer! Daniel was right all along! I get lynched. I flip Town. Fabien is lynched anyway on Day Seven. But, then why not take that risk and potentially get another townie lynched in the mean time... ? I don't know. Maybe because he assumes we'd be forced to claim anyway at some point and that's all he's got. If he's scum, he knows I'm telling the truth, so why not jump out with his claim? This is not what I imagined when he said this. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwomma fwom fwom, fwooom fwomma fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* joo-joo eyeballs, he one "Fwoooooooma fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Thinking more about it, on the off chance that Fabien is Town, I'd probably get lynched for not revealing it. I'm willing to take that risk and give myself another chance to play it correctly. Think about this, if I do play it correctly, I'll get lynched anyway. *Fwoooom fwooooooom*

Aiden, I should've thought of this earlier, but I should really claim, shouldn't I? What if my role confused something. Know what I mean? *Fwoooom*

*Fwom fwom* I'm sorry. This shocked the hell out of me. Are you saying that you don't think Fabien is scum? *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom— What is happening? You propose that Fabien wants to be lynched and then he proves it. So, yes, I would say Fabien's behavior shows that he's much more likely the scum killer than the town vig. He claims now that he can't kill two nights in a row so he can't kill Aiden like you were proposing. Sounds to me like he's trying to not get blocked if he is around because, "Hey, new rule, I can't kill on consecutive nights." This would be more believable if he had told us this when he first claimed. Yes, if he were to stay in the game, he'd be perpetually blocked and the scum would not be able to kill. This means the scum team is impatient. Fabien's theory that the scum would choose not to kill to implicate those who are blocked carries less weight when he actually has the ability to kill. If he is the vig, then why would he float the theory that the scum couldn't kill if he knew the presence of his kill might confuse our ability to think a blocked player on a night where there is no kill would be scum? All signs point to him being scum, right? So, the proposal then is to, what? Keep him in the game, block him, trust that he can't strongarm kill again and lynch who, exactly? Do we block me and Fabien throughout the rest of the game? How do we catch the other scum, then? If we have a very likely scum, we should lynch him. We caught Fabien by blocking him, right? If we lynch Fabien and he is the scum killer, the scum are freed up to kill again. You have to block me, right? So, the other block is the best bet of catching the scum so we block the next most suspicious player. Who is that? Also, how do we stop the new killer from taking out a blocker? We can have Robin protect one of them so they can't risk it. We can ask Robin to protect one of the claimed and coordinating power roles so the killer can't risk guessing the wrong one. Assuming Robin is Town. I think his "argument" with Fabien seems rather scripted. I'm stuck in a loop of what-ifs now. I think the best bet is to lynch Fabien. Are there three scum? Four? Would Bob give the last scum a block and a kill? We just don't know. I'm open to choosing a best path, but I feel like if we have scum in our crosshairs, we need to take him out. I've been composing this post for so long I'm now trying to think of how to catch the other scum if we do decide not to lynch Fabien. Andrew, on one hand it seems like you're trying to save your scum buddy from a lynch. On the other hand, I see the value of getting the killer stuck and unable to kill, assuming he can't strongarm kill again. Why would we believe that? Can we trust that this feeling is correct and the scum actually can't pass the kill around? In Pirates II they had a killer, ninja blocker and a framer. Who'd they keep when Joshua died (or is there a fourth this time?) I don't see what to do next if we don't lynch Fabien. I can't compose short posts. IF we weren't to lynch Fabien, the other scum could be: Trenton—Emmett says he didn't target anyone, he hasn't claimed a role. Is he ninja blocker? Is that how Daniel was unsuccessful? Wouldn't the ninja blocker have interfered in the other actions at this point? Wouldn't we have seen some evidence of his existence? Aiden—Hasn't been confirmed by any Night Actions but claims to not have targeted anyone and also claims one-shot Governor. Is it one-shot or am I making shit up? He scummily defended me from a crazy person, which I'm grateful for and I don't necessarily find it scummy. Especially since, from my perspective, he was more on the offensive against Daniel's posting style than in defense of anything I was doing. Robin—His reactions to Fabien seem scripted, but that's not a reason to lynch someone as it's my viewpoint which is subjective. Claims some sort of limited protection that he doesn't want to divulge because he doesn't want the scum to know. I can't figure out what these "limitations" would be, but I'm not going to press him for them. Either way, it's a little odd and I don't fully trust him. Peter—Has claimed a role and we know it's active as he confirmed being blocked. This could be a significant town role, then. I imagine the scum can still do stuff, so it's potentially a scum role. If Daniel was right about one thing, not knowing Fabien's claim led us to mis-lynch Justin. I suppose if we had known he was the "vig" we might've been more suspicious of him. Vincent—I'm me and I know I'm Town so fill in your own reasons. I was blocked on a night where there was no kill. I diabolically suspected Andrew on Day One. That's all I understand about whatever Daniel's suspicion revolve around. I used the word "scummy" incorrectly. Only Aiden knows my role. None of the rest of you know what I do at night. You guys can just call me mental vomit from now on. Sorry. I do freaking post walls of text, even when—almost especially when—I'm trying not to. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwoooooom fwom, fwomma fwom fwom fwooooooom fwom fwom* Ain't no sunshine when she's gone *Fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwooooom, fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwoooooooom*

*Fwomma fwomma fwoooooom* True, but not because I find myself suspicious. I suggested lynching me but I hope that would be only if people found me scummier than Fabien. Your suggestion is that you do. Your suggestion was to lynch me and kill Aiden at night knocking us both out just to see if we've been working together this whole time and then lynch Fabien if we both turn up Town. And your plan to make sure Aiden was super-dead and couldn't un-lynch himself indicates you believe his claim. If you believe it, why do you figure he wouldn't have used it on Joshua? Or why would he claim it publicly if he was intending to use it later to un-lynch scum? How would that work? He un-lynches someone who we lynch again and they flip scum and then he gets lynched after that? Oh my God, I do ramble! My point was...sorry...What made your suspicion of me stronger than someone who admitted having the ability to kill at night? *Fwomma fwomma fwom* Paint your palette blue and gray *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* I don't feel like reading my posts from that day, either, to be honest. Apologies again. I can try to justify it 1000 times but I really am sorry I contributed to it. When you're being constantly accused like that...anyway, definitely don't read the page dedicated to the definition and correct use of the word "scummy" on Day One. It will kill brain cells. I think going through it, I suffered a mini-stroke. But, I at least remember the non-Daniel-argument substance of my posts, so for you or anybody else that wants to see my justifications for voting for Joshua, they're here: Most of the post I made while voting was aimed at Andrew, who I would've voted for (or Justin) had Jean not made his case. But then, these are my further interaction with Joshua: *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Uuuuuuum...Maybe just because it involved lynching me, let alone the scummy plan to kill two potential townies while letting the claimed killer live and letting him kill someone, but this sounds like a bad plan. I admit I'm biased. Are you honestly suggesting we tell Fabien to kill Aiden and then track him?? Um, you can see the results of a kill, you know. The proof would be Aiden's dead body. Do you track him to prove that it was actually Fabien who killed Aiden? If you trust Fred, then why wouldn't Fabien "the vigilante" be able to kill? The only question you'd have if he targeted who he said he did is if Aiden isn't dead or there are two kills in one night. Is a better plan to lynch Fabien and then block me (yet again) and Aiden? Andrew, who is "we?" Does anybody suspect me of being Scum, besides you? I'm not suggesting I'm on anybody's "definite Town" list, but I'm honestly asking because Daniel went off on me for four days and he, Justin and you were the only ones to ever vote for me. So without even knowing my role, please do me a favor and detail these suspicions. I would love to hear them out of someone's mouth, besides Daniel. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* That was the first conclusion I came up with since everyone except Aiden had been confirmed by other actions and nobody else seemed to be able to be the killer on multiple nights. This was an immediate response before I thought it out more thoroughly, which I practically did in real time with subsequent posts, not long after the post you quoted. Aiden claimed governor to me last night and I'm inclined to believe him although you'll see I still list him as a top suspect due to him never being blocked or tracked. Correct. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Yes? I may be firing squad myself in the foot with this but I really think the lynch today should be me or Fabien. Am I wrong? I'm 50/50 on claiming my role. I'd like to keep it secret from the Scum but if it helps people get a clearer picture, I can still claim. It still has a use if it's publicly revealed. Aiden, you know what it is, what do you think? I'm interested in everyone's opinion on this. If people think it will help to reveal it, I will. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom,* Ring it low! *Fwom fwom fwoooooom, fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwoooooooooooooom!*

What is happening right now? Robin, if you think his story is BS, why did you add it to the Night Action sheet? Why is your theory that he's not "just a vig" but a serial killer. Why not scum? You're reaction is confusing at best. Fabien, if you are the vig and you believe the scum didn't kill, the only option for you is to vote for me, because that would most likely make me the killer. Why haven't you voted for me? Is it because you know if I'm lynched today, I will flip town and you will be lynched on Day Six? Yes, if you are the vig, I can definitely think of other options as to who the killer is because I know damn well it isn't me. But if you are the vig, I believe you would immediately vote for me as it would be the most logical explanation for why we haven't seen the "scum" kill for two nights... I'm leaning towards you being the scum killer, personally. In other news, thank you. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom* The wicked witch! *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwooooooooooooooom!!!!!*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Why would the scum kill fail on Daniel? This is mind-blowing. Why note suggest the scum tried to kill me on night three and Peter was the killer who was blocked last night? This theory that the scum and town killed is an unimaginative gambit to make us believe your killing Daniel wasn't the scum kill. Why not suggest Peter or I are the killer because it's verified we were blocked. Why would your kill go through and the "scum"'s fail? You could even try to say that maybe the scum tried to kill you but you were saved by Daniel's jailkeep. The lack of imagination is what is the scummiest about this claim. You were blocked on night three and there was no kill. You were blocked on night four but you strongarm killed Daniel. This takes away my reasoning that you chose Daniel to implicate me, so if you are scum, I can't figure out why you would admit that you killed him. I don't think it's that far-fetched and if Fabien is scum, I'd say you're going out of your way to appear horrified and I'd guess you as his scum buddy. Did you protect anyone last night? Tell us you protected Daniel and Fabien's strongarm kill made you fail. If you think it's such BS, why isn't your post followed by a vote? I PMed a few people last night with a post detailing why I thought Daniel could be scum. I was going to post it yesterday but was afraid it would be counter-productive and have Daniel freak the f out. But I had ten reasons Daniel might actually be scum and came up with additional ones the more I thought about it. If I was the vig, I would justifiably target Daniel because if he was scum, hooray, but if not the game would progress better without him. So I don't buy that anybody would think Daniel would be a stupid target for a vig. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* What the flying fuck, Robin? (Sorry to swear in disbelief, it's nothing personal. I love you ) But seriously, what the flying fuck? In one post you're calling Fabien's claim BS and the next you're updating our Night Action target spreadsheet with the claims you don't believe? *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwomma fwom fwom fwom wfom wfom fwomwfom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* I have trouble buying this coin flip idea. I had conversations with Bob about how my role would work in certain scenarios, so I don't doubt the conversation. A coin flip? What is this? Baritones 2? A blocker blocking a blocker blocks both. Neither action would be successful, because why would either of them be? Maybe a jailkeeper and blocker targeting each other would need a coin flip to see if the blocker would still be protected. Bah! Mafia theory. I doubt Bob would have a killer targeting a jailkeeper be decided by coin flip. So, I still think that if Fabien was Daniel's killer he had to have a strongarm modifier. I have trouble seeing him as the killer otherwise. And I realize this theory would still implicate me as a killer. I know I'm not, but nobody else does. Would Fabien be able to kill anybody if it wasn't for him and Daniel targeting each other? Peter or I could also have had a strongarm modifier. I suppose if Fabien did have a strongarm capability or even a one-shot blocking action he'd have to target Daniel so Daniel wouldn't report that his block was unsuccessful. Could I or Peter have done the same? I suppose if we did, we would've had to kill the person targeting us. Daniel sent me a PM saying "I hope you enjoyed your cell." making me think I would be his target. I doubt Peter would've known who was targeting him. How would Fabien know that Daniel was targeting him? That's what makes me think one of the blockers is also scum. Or would Fabien simply choose Daniel as a target to implicate me over him? My brain is busted, you guys. Sorry about the ruminating. I'm trying not to fill the void of Daniel's walls of text with mine instead, so I'll seriously try to take it easy. It just feels freeing to be able to have discussions. Ding dong! The witch is dead! Oops, I misplaced my tuba. Unless Fabien had a strongarm kill and just decided to kill Daniel to implicate me and it has nothing to do with Daniel not being able to report that his block was successful or not... *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Then you didn't read all of my potential claims carefully. If Daniel was blocked, either by you or Fred or by use a strongarm, Daniel would report today that he was unsuccessful and Fred would report that the block of me was successful and that would implicate Fabien. So, in order to keep the heat on me, the Scum couldn't let report he wasn't successful because that would lead to Fabien's lynch. Also, as you actually helped demonstrate and Aiden clarified, who better to kill because then it does implicate me? It's win-win, they get rid of a blocker, they get rid of someone who could confirm the block was unsuccessful and they put the heat on me, a townie. And it's all WIFOM on top of it. It's a great move for the scum. I think this is highly likely, but my ability to analyze gave us the theory that Justin was covering for killing Jean, so trust my mind at your own risk. *Fwoooooooooom fwom fwom fwoooom, fwoooooooooom fwom fwom fwom fwom* The sun shine iiiiii-iiiiiiin! *Fwoooooooooom fwom fwom fwooooooooom*

*Fwomma fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* OK, I promise to close the browser for a while and not just keep barreling forward with walls of text, but I suddenly find my self able to see things more clearly and think more clearly. Please don't merge these posts, board. I want this all to be easily digestible. I swear I'll close the browser for two hours. Let's look at this list that scummy Andrew posted with the claims added: Aiden - possibly killer, claims role, no targets Andrew - my blocks have been verified, claims Vanilllaiszer Emmett - tracking has been verified, claims Tracker Fabien - possible killer, claims role, no specifics Fred - blocks have been verified, claims blocker Peter - was blocked Night 4 when Daniel was killed, no claim Robin - was jailed Night 2 when Jean was killed, claims some sort of limited protector Trenton - tracked be Emmett Night 4 when Daniel was killed Vincent - was blocked Night 4 when Daniel was killed, claims role-has diabolically and scummily withheld all details At least two of these people are actually scum. Theory 1 Fabien and I are still the best suspects— Fabien is the killer: If Fabien is the killer, Andrew blocked Daniel to free him up to kill and not report that his block of Fabien was unsuccessful. I am the killer: I'm the killer and Fred is the scum blocker. I know that I'm not scum nor am I a killer, but this is a possibility for everyone to consider. Fred would've blocked Daniel, freeing me up to kill. I know I didn't kill anybody, but Fred is the only one who knows who he actually blocked. So, I suppose this could work with Fabien being the killer as well. I cannot verify that I was actually blocked last night as I didn't target anybody. Either Fabien or I are the killer: Either Fabien or I are scum and there's a JOAT that gave us a one-shot strongarm kill. In which case, I would suggest Robin as our accomplice, although it could still be one of these blockers. Peter or Trenton could also be JOAT accomplices in this case. I think this would mean Fabien would be the killer and killed Daniel so he wouldn't report being unsuccessful. If this were me with a strongarm kill, Fred would've reported being unsuccessful. I lean towards this theory because why would the scum kill Daniel when he was making the game unplayable and accusing a fellow townie of being scum. That's scum-cover-gold and no scum team in their right mind would kill him. They only know this to be true, because none of you have verification that Daniel was wrong and that I'm not scum. But they know, so why kill Daniel? Because, if this theory (more the first two than the third)is correct, then the scum needed to block Daniel but not have him report it. I told Fabien and several others that I wouldn't immediately suspect him if Justin flipped Town but looking at the list of who's been verified and who didn't target who, it's still possible. Not ready to vote along these lines, but it's possible. It's a pretty narrow list at this point. Theory 2 Both blockers are town and neither Fabien nor I are the killer— Scum have a ninja: It's possible Trenton did kill Daniel but couldn't be tracked. Perhaps he did target me the previous night and I was protected. I don't know why since I would probably be good to keep around so Daniel can freaking dump walls of text on me (and I kind of do it back, at least a little ) and I was pushing hard against Justin and he's clearly Town. Maybe I'm right about Andrew? Or maybe they wanted Daniel around to keep clogging up the thread to make it unreadable but at the same time discredit him and send him heaping walls of text on someone else. This would lend more credence to the blockers being town and the scum not knowing they would be blocked or that I would be protected. Aiden is scum: Again, I think I know what Aiden is but I'll let him share if he feels like it. He is the only player who hasn't been blocked or tracked, correct? Robin is scum: Unless he's a limited shot bodyguard, I can't figure out what he's being so cagey about and I've suspected for a while he's a JOAT. Anyway... So the suspects we should be looking at are: Me, Fabien, Andrew, Aiden, Trenton, Robin. I think these are the top suspects. I know I'm not scum but feel free to keep blocking me for the rest of the game if I'm not lynched. As long as I'm not protected. Don't protect me. I think I've made this abundantly clear: Don't. Protect. Me. If you all decide I should be lynched, I'll accept that. I would just request that we have a fun day of playing normally and somewhat quietly and that if I get a majority of the votes, listen to everything I have to say about my role and consider. But I'll happily go if people are convinced I'm scum so that it can free everybody up to find the real scum while we still have plenty of townies in our numbers. Yo-ho! Yo-ho, yo-ho, yo-ho! Let's open up and sing: *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom. Fwom fwomma fwom fwom wfom. Fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom* Or you blocked Daniel and Fabien killed him. This is all you have to say? You're not going to confirm if you were blocked or not? *Fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom* Ding dong! *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwooooooooooom!!*

I've updated this with Emmett's results and the conclusion is that the kill can be passed around. If Daniel was targeting Fabien, I would imagine his jailkeeper action went through as the kill typically happens last in the order of Night Actions. Unless, Daniel was blocked and killed, in which case our blocker or vanilllaiszer is lying. Vanilllaiszer: shouldn't it be goonizer? We don't typically refer to Scum without actions as Vanilla Scum, do we? Apologies, Andrew, but your immediate vote for me out of the gates has pinged me. The name of the role itself is Scummy. That's not a terribly valid reason to suspect Andrew. However, if we're to imagine a world where one of the blockers is scum, then why would they either target me for the kill on Night Three or allow Fabien to perform the kill? For one of them to be scum, let's use Andrew for example, he would've had to block Daniel, allowing Fabien to kill. Would they take the risk of allowing their own kill to be blocked for one night? If the remaining two blockers are town, then who could've killed Daniel last night? My first bet would've been Trenton, but he didn't target anyone. Unless he's a ninja. They may also have a one-shot strongarm action if the scum have a JOAT. Peter was blocked? That would've been my next guess for killer. Hmmmm. Aiden's a possibility but I have info about him I'll let him choose if he wants it shared. Has he been blocked or tracked? Not to my recollection. So, the blocks have been verified but if the scum can pass actions around then that doesn't matter and if one of them is scum, then the nights they were verified only matter for those particular nights. Maybe Emmett could be a scum tracker but I've been leaning town on him, probably the person I trust the most, although that's not saying much because I don't trust anybody. I did verify my role to Aiden, who was able to guess it. Nine of us left, two-three possible Scum... We gotta get on track. *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Belooooooooooow, below, below, Yo-Ho! *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* I'd like to float the theory that that was a Daniel impostor that was killed. That's way too concise for Daniel. I bet the real Daniel is being held captive somewhere. *Fwom fwom fwom* Ring it low! *Fwom fwom fwoooooooom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwooooooooooooooooooooooom!*

These two sentences don't make sense, one after the other. The scum have taken advantage of Daniel and I both being town and dominating the discussion and I have to be scum? Can you walk us through that? *Fwom fwooooooooooom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Let's open up and sing! and ring the bells out! *Fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom*