Vincent Denis

*Bwom fwom fwomma fwomma* Um, sorry to immediately post and take up more space after yesterday's marathon squabbles with Daniel. Let me explain something important, though. Lucas PMed me last night and asked if I was ready to work with him. Ever PM the person you're most suspicious of and ask them to work together? To me, it's concerning. Prodding Daniel further about this concern, he claims that he PMed others to ask their opinion of me and he "got the feeling I'd be truly town" from those conversations. Regarding that, can anyone confirm having these conversations with him? Otherwise, it seems forced like maybe his scum buddies told him he went too far and should try to smooth it over. Or he was fishing for my night action. Feels weird to me that he would be so sure all day that I was scum and then suddenly ask to work together. Some other gems from our conversations were him telling me that working with him would be my "best shot." Um, something about it being my choice to trust him or not and not to say later that he hadn't proposed it. Really not sure what to make of any of that. Very odd interaction. I daresay the strangest day and night 1 I've ever experienced. Very annoying, altogether and I'm including my own behavior in that. Oh no, don't want to rehash any, just thought it important to report the odd night interaction after yesterday's events. Right now, though, I'd like to look at what Remi contributed yesterday. *Fwooooom fwom fwooooooom fwom fwooooooom fwooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooom*

*Fwooom fwoom fwoom fwooom* Ruff, I love ruff! Deal me in. I can take some tricks between blows. I take it money is changing hands? That's typically how I take tricks. Speaking of money, I take tips. Any requests? I'll blow you so good. I prefer big tips, of course. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwommma fwomma fwomma fwom fwoom fwoooooom fwoooooooom fwooooooooooooom*

*Fwom fwom —* Hey, be careful with your decks! I'm blowing around here! What if I were to blow your decks right off? That would be tittilatingly awful! Why are you all shuffling each other's decks? Solitaire is about jerking your own deck. I meant shuffling. Weird I said jerking. Now don't let me blow your decks. Grip them tight because I'm going to blow you all night! *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwooooooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooom fwoooooooooooooooom*

*Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* Yay, night time! I know it's outside of my tuba-playing hours but I play the tuba in my sleep. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Crap, sorry. I forgot to play myself out and the board wouldn't let me add it for 10 seconds (because it only takes 4 seconds to type fwom) and then Robin posted between them. I just don't want anyone to think I'm spamming up the thread with tuba playing. I'd edit it if I could. *Not Robin, Daniel. I'm having posting complications. Sorry...

*Fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom* So you can be aggressive and we're supposed to be patient in response? Your aggression is a sign of a town player, but ours isn't? Patience comes in many forms and answering every one of your points is one of them. At least you didn't get personal with your replies. That's not what you originally said. You said you agreed with Andrew's reasoning and Andrew's reasoning was that the poke vote gets the person being voted for to start talking. I've already laid this point out for you and you ignored it. If you've been eating popcorn and supposedly reading what's happened between Daniel and me, why'd you ignore the points I made about your behavior when I voted for you? Couldn't we, though? All two scum would have to do to coordinate this would be to know the other is scum and then argue with each other. Tactics like this don't need behind-the-scenes coordination, so you shouldn't be so quick to cast the idea aside. That being said, I know I'm not scum, but still I find your logic faulty here. This pings me the same way the coin flip did. Agreeing with someone is one thing, but announcing you're going to make a mental note of it seems odd to me. This is a nit-pick, I know. This could be just a difference in communication, but it's a ping either way. Daniel jumped to your defense in a similar way and you don't find that odd? Daniel's issue is that there are a lot of posts from Aiden that seem to defend me. The entire issue between Daniel and me started with him defending you. There are a lot of posts from Daniel in that regard that he thinks you're "straightforward" and "right on" and that you (although he calls you Joshua, I think he means you) are right to warn people about the debate between him and me. Aiden has been just as consistent and said less about agreeing with me about you than agreeing with me that Daniel is confusing and not helping. That's put you and me in the same boat as far as people "defending" us. I admit I don't find either one of Aiden or Daniel scummy, but I'm much less certain on Aiden. All I have on Aiden right now is that I agree with him that Daniel is not helping anybody but the scum and it looks to me like he's trying to help us all communicate better by encouraging Daniel to stop it. None of what he's said in that regard seems scummy to me. That being said, a suspicion still lingers that even scum could agree that Daniel isn't helping the town and choose to voice it to appear helpful and buddy up to a townie, in this case-me, but only I know that I'm a townie. I didn't expect this question to take me this long to ask, so apologies, but why do you find Aiden scummy for defending me but not Daniel for defending you?

*fwom fwom fwom fwom* Careful. Daniel may singlehandedly lynch all 3 of us at once. The new scum-tell: you disagree with Daniel. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwommma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*fwomma fwomma fwom fwom* *Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom* *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom* You know you wanna meme. *fwom fwom* Sorry @Bob, I'm pretty sure I violated the spirit of this rule twice now. I'll try to keep my guesses to myself for the duration of the game. *Fwomma fwomma*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* I had "Starry starry night, paint your palette blue and gray." *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* Another thank you to Aiden as I'm finally having fun again. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fw-aaaaaah-m fw-aaaaaaaaah-m fw-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah-m"

*Fwom— You've posted a five point response to a video. Good God, man. Snap out of it. If you can't take a slap in the face, you're not French. A slap is not a punch. I can't believe I just typed that. You've dragged me down into the mire with you. You're too blind to see it, but the most proactive thing I'm doing is trying to make a productive townie out of you. Your harbinger of chaos tactics are only helping the scum. If you're scum, gg. If you're town, chill out and pull your head out of your rose garden. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom— Aiden, thank you. I have no idea what side you're on but I don't care. I so appreciate you demonstrating this. I thought I was going to lose my mind. But watching Nutty McBonkersFace do the exact same thing to you that he did to me, while still aggravating to see a re-run of last week's episode...again..., actually lessened the tension in my neck and shoulders from talking to this repetitive and obtuse brick wall for the past two days. Along with my gratitude, I'll also offer an apology as this post will spark 18 more paragraphs from him, "Look! They're openly colluding! Why can't anyone see they're on the same team and working together?" This doesn't mean I trust you (and I'm saying that more for Daniel's sake, not that he'll understand, I'm sure you already realize my post isn't about trust) but along the lines of human condition, thank you. Thank you a ton. You've quoted yourself and Aiden. You want us to choose someone to lynch between the two of you? I think you'd make a solid policy lynch. If you're town, the scum are deeply in love with you. If you're scum, they are going to tear you a new one when the PMs start tonight. Why do you think your suspicions require some acknowledgment like you speak for the whole town and somehow all of your accusations must be answered? Is it because that's the way it works on mafia.gg or whatever 1-minute version of this game you play on your phone that you were talking about in the last game? That's not how it works here, Opie. You have to demonstrate the ability to play nice with others in order for people to listen to you. I'm going to foreshadow your response: "You said earlier that nobody is listening to us and you were trying to speak for the town and you can do it and I can't blah blah blah." I'm reflecting the reality I'm currently living in. People are having conversations around ours and not responding to it. You could see it if you'd look. Some people have responded since we started asking for responses but when they tell you they don't see your point, you jump on them, so they're out again. I see this happening. I'm not trying to speak for them, I'm trying to share my observation with you. It is not the same as demanding an answer to every nitpick accusation that comes from you. Now, I know I haven't punched anyone in the face. You're coming apart at the seams, man. *Fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwoom fwom fwom fwoom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom* You can think somebody is town and think their reads are insane. I'm not going to agree with everyone I think is townie or learn is townie throughout the game. The idea is utterly ridiculous. You don't seem very receptive to working together, but let's give it a shot. I'll start. Don't you think it's weird how far under the radar Justin and Andrew have fallen since you started posting your suspicions of me? *Fwomma fwomma fwom Fwom fwoooom fwooom fwoooooooom fwoomie fwoomie fwom fwom fwooooooooom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom* Honestly, because I think you deserve to be picked on. Alex made a short post and you've posted four paragraphs with questions for me in response to it. You think the town is going to read everything that's happened between us and chime in? Look around you. They're ignoring it. Let's take an honest poll: Who is ignoring most of what Daniel and I are saying to each other? They're not finding anything useful in it. They're discussing other things because what we're doing isn't helpful. What you're doing isn't helpful. Alex has told you that he can't made heads or tails of our interactions. I can't even understand half of what you're posting as you can see by my responses when I express not understanding what you're saying. But do you try to communicate better? Nope, just more of your constant yammering. I've told you it's confusing and distracting. Other people have said the same thing. Yet you're still waiting for an opinion from them but the only thing that will satisfy you is if someone says "Oh yeah, I think Vincent is scum too." And it's not happening. They're replying to you but you're just turning on them and calling them scum. Our conversation is highly aggravating to participate in, let alone watch from the outside. You may think you're being helpful, but you're not. People are trying to tell you this, but you're not listening. And Alex not understanding the things you've said doesn't make him scum. Let's play another hypothetical: I'm night killed. Tomorrow, I flip town, as only I know I would. What would you have to show for all the energy you've put in today? Nothing. Oh, look, Vincent was town so he meant everything he said. Hmmm. He didn't know anybody's alignment. Gee. I guess my 127 paragraphs about how I was sure he was scum are useless now. They're useless now. Hey may be a noob, he may not be. If he's not, that doesn't mean he's scummy by trying to act like one. A very experienced player tried it in the last game to avoid being metagamed. Other people have tried it, more subtly, in previous anonymous games. Sometimes, they're trying to avoid detection, others they're trying to avoid being metagamed. From Alex's one post, I don't know yet. I suspect he's not a noob since he so elaborately introduced himself as one, but he could be a noob and just...guess what?...communicates differently than you or I. People are different. Even if it's an act, that's not a reason to immediately suspect him of being scum. Even a noob would see Robin's post as odd. I saw it as odd. He's voting for someone we're told will be removed from the game if a replacement isn't found. That's a real easy place for a scum to hide. I don't know what we'd learn later from a lynch that was technically not a lynch so I don't see that point at all in voting for Michael. Especially since there still could be a replacement. Nobody had a chance to breathe after Alex posted because you immediately dump heaps of your turd posts on him and sucked all the energy out of the thread again. Nobody can see over your walls of texts and it's making people frustrated and confused as they are telling you, repeatedly. Yes, I lean town on you. I don't know for sure and the more you barrel forward with your bull-headed arguments that don't make sense to anybody else, the more I think it's possible that you're pretending to be obtuse and trying to cause confusion and obsfucation, but that's still not likely. You seem like a terribly misguided townie to me. Why on Earth would that mean I should jump on Alex? I lean town on you, but I do not trust your reads, at all. You've spent the entire day, post after post after post, reading me wrong. You turn on Alex and I'm supposed to jump on him too? If I did agree with you I imagine you'd reply with "Oh, now you're going to vote for another person? What about Justin and Andrew? What's the definition of scummy? Your argument is false. I know you have information. Blah blah blah!" I'm not seeing what you're seeing with him. I think your reads are shit. I think your logic is faulty. If you are town, your current play style and strategy is working against the town. You're not helping anything by doggedly going after me because I am not scum. I'm really failing at ignoring this guy. Apologies again to everyone. *Fwooooom fwooooom fwoooom fwoooooooom fwooooooooom fwoooooooom fwooooooom fwoooooom fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooooooooom*

*Fwom fwom fwom* I already tried to explain to you that all of your posts are too long and confusing. Now, you're behaving cocky and insulting to someone. Should we find you scummy for that? He said he's a noob. Nice welcome, Daniel. Real class act. I've already said I don't think Aiden and Alex are town just because they can see what I'm seeing where you can't. What more do you want me to say? Do you want me to analyze every player in the game for your benefit so you can pick apart the structure of each sentence and waste people's time and confuse them with page after page of response? I've spent most of the time I have to play this game responding to you. I tried to move forward this morning and look at what other people were saying but you started up your blabber again, so here I am, once again, talking to you. And you're once again wasting everyone's time because I'm not scum. How about I tell you to Give Us. A. Break. from your incessant rambling. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* We're way past that point, yet another thing you don't seem to be able to grasp. You're still in the rose garden. *Fwomma fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwom fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom* For the sake of allowing the thread to be readable by others, I started ignoring your repetitive posts. But if you really want this question answered, fine. You're not reading what I'm saying if you have this question. If we're both town, we play differently and we communicate differently and I am really tired of explaining, sentence by sentence the things I've already said. What I said was: IF they are both scum, then Andrew would be more dangerous as he seems to be more capable of appearing townie. That is still the reason. Because he appears more townie to me. And so since he appears more townie to me than Justin, I say in the next sentence, that you even quoted that I find Justin more scummy. Then I list the reasons which you cut out of your post. This is why I'm done answering you. I've answered everything thoroughly, not only when you asked, but while I was doing it because I have nothing to hide. I am being 100% honest and trying to answer all of your suspicions but even that is "reacting to the heat." Well, I hope you're honest about finally being done because I intended to ignore your posts today and have wasted even more time on them now. People didn't have to wait for us "to be done" to react. They could have, and did, chime in whenever they wanted. Three people told you how it looked to them and you told them they were scummy for defending me. It must be a really really beautiful rose garden. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooom fwooooooooom fwooooooooom*

*Fwooom fwoom fwoom fwoom* I'm the god damn tubist. It's my job. You think playing the tuba is scummy? You think I have time for this? I've already answered. I think it's important for townies to answer concerns and I've answered all of your repeatedly. That's why I'm taking the time, to answer for the town's sake. I'm done spending this much time on you. I spent two hours responding to one of you asinine posts last night and it took me all of 4 seconds to repeatedly type variations of "fwoom." You honestly think the time it takes me to play the tuba is the same to respectfully continue to answer you? Since you have no appreciation of the time I'm committing to it, you can have much less of it. If you think playing the tuba is padding the texts and the word "fwoom" confuses you that's on you. I find it ridiculous you're that put off by "fwoom." And you're one to tell someone to be concise. Decorate that tunnel with a mirror while you're at it. You repeatedly say that I've insulted you and then you insulted me ten times. So is it scummy or do you just get to do it? Do you also only get to have specific suspicions? You think I'm scummy because I'm looking at Andrew and Justin but you're only looking at me and you're so confident, it might seem like you have information. But you can do whatever you want because you're obviously so smart. It's scummy for me but not scummy for you, fine. You think my suspicion of Justin and Andrew is forced, it's not. I've been 100% honest about how I feel about them, there is absolutely zero deceit in it. You think one line of "fwom"s is confusing and distracting? Your ridiculous posts that go on forever and now you're even quoting yourself, are confusing and distracting. I know it's distracting from the scum hunt, because I know I'm not scum. I changed my vote from Andrew to Justin and have said I'll switch it back to Andrew, because I have consistently found them both to be scummy. You can follow my train of thought if you had the ability to listen, but you don't. I've tried to answer all of your questions but they just result in ten more questions each, like the Hydra of questions. You keep finding "fallacies" in my "arguments" and I've tried to do my job as a townie and answer them, but I can no longer answer when you're so deep in a fallacy that doesn't exist. I'm honestly voicing my opinion, not arguing. Nothing I've said is false. Nothing. I'm town so I'm 100% telling the truth about everything I've thought, every reason I've voted, and even my willingness to vote for either Andrew or Justin is 100% in the interest of hunting scum. And I will switch to Andrew if it means achieving a lynch today. If there's a compelling case for someone else in the next 24 hours, I may switch my vote to that person. That's how it works. Just to summarize, you think I'm scum because: 1. My attitude rubs you the wrong way 2. You think I'm cocky 3. I play the tuba 4. I'm voicing my suspicions 5. I'm willing to change my vote as the day progresses If you think we should hunt scum by looking for attitudes that rub us the wrong way, jokes and roleplaying, and evolving suspicions, you're doing it wrong. *Fwoom fwom fwoom fwom fwoom fwom fwoom fwom fwoom fwom fwoom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom fwooooooom fwoooooooom fwooooooom fwooooom fwooooom fwoooooooom fwoooooomo fwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom*

*Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom* I don't have any information on them, or anyone. They seem the scummiest to me out of everyone who has posted. Period. I have a hypothetical for you. If I'm lynched or night-killed (which I kind of really hope I am because then I wouldn't have to talk to you anymore) or in the conclusion when you see that I'm town and at this moment, have no information on anybody, are you going to consider how unhelpful you've been to the town by going after me all day? Because you've wasted a lot of people's time and it's only helping the scum, because I'm not one of them. I really want an answer to this now because we'll definitely be revisiting it in the conclusion. I've played in a tunnel before and it got the town killed. I thought my tunnel was a beautiful rose garden, but it turned out to be my own ass my head was up. Get out of your tunnel. I'm not scum. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom* They don't? Then why did they enlist a tubist? *Fwom fwooom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwoom* (emphasis added) I'd say your "looking back" skills need a tune-up. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwoom fwoom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwoom fwooom fwoooom*

*Fwomma fwomma fwoom fwoom fwom fwom fwom* Even with a perpetual 46 hours remaining, it doesn't look like we will be able to achieve a lynch today. I still find Justin and Andrew's actions scummy. I would be OK with an Andrew lynch. While I think the idea of poking someone flying under the radar is more productive, it is dangerous to start doing this early in the game as townies have legitimate reasons to fly under the radar as well on day one. They could both be scum, or they could both be town...or one town the other scum, obviously. If they are both scum, Andrew is the more dangerous as he seems to be more capable of appearing townie. I get a stronger scummy feeling from Justin because he's modeling his behavior off of Andrew. If Andrew is either alignment, this is troubling because why would you need to model your behavior off of anybody unless you're trying to appear a certain way? Andrew is at least switching tactics with his vote. Both of them thinking that their votes alone are causing every conversation and they've committed some sort of heroic act by voting for people who hadn't posted is ridiculous. But I find Justin leaving his vote on Joshua more troubling. It's like he's worried he was caught placing that easy poke vote and trying to appear to be useful and doesn't want to un-vote when asked about it because that would seem scummier. I will look more closely at who the others have voted for but with 7 people each getting 1 vote, it doesn't look promising that we will achieve a lynch. *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwoom fwoom fwoom, Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwoom fwoom* This sounds more like you're jumping on the first thing you saw. Jean isn't the only person who find poke votes scummy. Why did you go with him? Why wouldn't a townie mention the first "thing they saw?" Assuming by "thing" you mean "scum tell," yeah, again, that's how the game is played. We get pings and we mention them to everybody. What exactly is scummy about it? *Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwooom fwooom fwooom fwoooooooooooooooooom*

*Fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwom stfu fwom fwom fwoom* No, I'm talking about them being scummy. I'm not saying they're wrong. How would a poke vote be wrong? I'm saying they're scummy. Take note that nobody is in agreement with you because we all have the same definition of scummy. And you constantly repeating yourself isn't convincing anyone because me thinking poke votes are scummy is how we express our opinions. But don't bother learning anything, keep barreling forward with your misplaced self-assurance. It's not making the thread unreadable or anything. I could care less about your vote against me. It's insane. I don't expect you to un-vote and at this point, I don't care what you do with your vote. And you can call me full of shit and be insulting, go for it. If you don't like tuba serenades, just say so. Yes, my posts are dripping with disdain because I find you ridiculously frustrating. Not intending to be offensive, so I apologize if you felt that way. I do want to slap you in the face, like really hard, to knock some sense into you. But I realize I insulted your intelligence. It's really hard not to word things as simply as possible because it seems like you're misunderstanding everything I've said on a very basic level-the definition of scummy. It's the most bizarre thing I've ever encountered and it's quickly draining my enjoyment of the game. I can barely follow the thread of your concerns about me anymore. It seems like anything I say is just going to be picked apart over semantics and you just keep peering deeper and deeper into your one tunnel. I can't even believe I'm spending this much time replying to this post because I saw it as such utter nonsense when I first read it. I don't even know why I'm trying to get through to you. I really really don't. This paragraph is like the most boring Mad-Libs I've ever read. It's a word salad, I can't even begin to make sense of it. You keep saying I'm coming up with magic reasons and getting suspicions out of the blue but I spend a lot of time composing posts and a lot of time thinking about who to vote for. You can follow my reasoning in real time through out this day thread. I wonder if you just need the last word? I'm spending all this time trying to answer your concerns and this might just be your ego. I find it important to answer people's concerns so that everyone can judge reactions, but I think we're way past that. I'm not sure our argument is helping anybody. If we're both town, then it's definitely helping the scum. You seem really smart. But, in my experience, to be intelligent, you need to shut your mouth every once in a while and really listen to people. I have no evidence you listen to anybody but yourself. OK, you've pinged me again. I tell you you have tunnel vision and you finally start voicing suspicion about other people. You may think, in your tunnel, that they're defending me, but they're actually trying to help you. They're pointing out what I'm saying but they're not saying that I'm not above suspicion. They're trying to tell you that your actions seem scummy to them. If you're scum you know that, if you're town, you should listen. The reason this is a ping, and I find it scummy-not wrong-is that you only called back to them after I said you had tunnel vision, like your trying to sweep what I said under the rug. It wasn't even a suspicion I was expressing but you're acting like it was. You being active and verbose doesn't make you town. Your constant arguments are trivial (and annoying as fuck) but they're really just picking apart everything I say and arguing on semantics over substance. Fabien's right, this could be an act. But, if it is, I'm the only one who currently knows that you'd be the one putting it on. If you're town, and this is just for you; if we could PM I'd PM it, you clearly think you are right but you couldn't be more wrong. I'm not Scum. I hope you're the vigilante and you target me. You'll see I bleed blue, baby. Plus it will put me out of my misery. I'm not one of those dastardly red shirts, may they all be damned to hell. I've wasted so much of my, and everyone else's, precious precious time responding to you that I just cannot do so again. I don't care if it gets me lynched, I need to ignore you for my own sanity and enjoyment of the game. I'm trying to help you see a way out of your tunnel but not even knowing if you're town, it's not worth it. Can I apologize to everyone for going point to point with this guy? I intended to post a quick response and I feel we're all losing irreplaceable brain cells reading our interactions. I'm really really sorry. *Fwom fwom fwom Fwom fwom fwom Fwom fwom fwom Fwom fwom fwom Fwom fwom fwom...*

*Fwom fwom— You know your trumpet sounds a lot like a drum. You should consider cleaning out your spit valve. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwom fwom* Do you think that every thing every player has called another play scummy for has been actual scum? Oh, great! Game over, everybody. All we have to do is look at who has been called scummy and there's the game. That was easy. Are you suggesting I would believe that every poke vote is made by scum? Do you not think we have evidence of every poke vote ever placed? We can literally quantify it by looking. Not all poke votes are placed by scum so it would be utterly stupid to believe that or to believe that anybody would believe that. I cannot believe these words are coming out of my mouth that it would need to be explained to anybody. Townies find other townie's actions scummy all the time. How do you think mislynches occur. People's personality or communication skills get in the way of seeing their intentions and people find them scummy, even when they're not scum. That's the exact model of the game. We have to figure out who is scum and getting pings and identifying things we find scummy doesn't always work. Scummy is an opinion, not a fact. Let's use me, for example, since you just love discussing my votes today. I found both Andrew and Justin scummy because of their behavior, as a whole. Part of that is that I find poke votes scummy, because it's an easy place for scum to hide and appear useful. I may have mentioned it 18 times already, but here it is again for you. Maybe it'll make a difference this time? Probably not. Side note: Me finding them scummy does not mean they are definitely scum nor does it mean that I need to conclude that they are scum after further interaction and analysis going forward. Are you following me so far? Need a break? Want to play tic tac toe? Let's take a tuba break for your brain to catch up. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom, fwomma fwomma fwomma* OK, so back to the demonstration. I found Andrew and Justin scummy, only one reason of which was their poke votes. Now, after interacting with both of them more, I find Justin more scummy. Do I have to hold this opinion forever? No. If I unvote Justin and vote for someone else, was I just poking Justin? No. I'm placing my vote on Justin (as I did on Andrew) so it will go towards a lynch of him. I would like Justin to be lynched, at this point in the day, because he seems the scummiest to me. I'm not voting for him because I want him to talk more. His talking, up to this point, seems the most suspicious to me. Am I sure he's scum? Of course not and I know I could be wrong but I'm not sure about anybody we don't have night action results on or that I am myself. Now, once you understand that, it's important you understand this next part. Someone might say something I find even scummier than Justin. Somebody may make a case against someone and point out things about someone that I didn't see before and that may cause me to change my vote. And that's what we're supposed to do to find scum. You know what is messed up about this constant back and forth, my most town-leaning read is actually on Daniel here. No scum would go after a townie this hard on day one. Or maybe he's pretending to not understand to make himself seem like a noob that needs all of this explained so we'll let our guards down. Great, now I'm in full-on over-think. I lean town on you Daniel but I find you one of the most frustrating, obtuse people I've ever interacted with in mafia. Your face is stuck in one tunnel and I don't think you have the grace to even think about looking into another one, let alone out at the world. *Fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom Fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma Fwom fwom fwom*

*Fwom fwomma fwom fwom* No, I'm not. *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwomma fwooooooooom fwoooooooom*