Mandalorianknight

Agreed with most of this, but not the last bit about a 150 one being plausible. The 2008 version was $50, or about $75 today, half of the price of the probably-UT-AT. Even with the smaller pieces, lego's price increases, etc, I can't see it being $150. "Republic Fighter Tank 2"

I just can't understand a $150 TX-130. Lego doesn't upscale their playsets like that- small vehicles like speeders and AT-RTs get upscaled but nothing beyond them that I can think of, certainly nothing to the extent of more than tripling the piece count from a version just a few years prior.

Lego is mentally unable to comprehend good DC sets. I'm not even going to cope and say "there's just a ton of that 1x5x6 panel piece" because even if there was (there won't be) I think the set would still probably end up looking kind of bad. What's funny is I saw your comment and went "well, that does sound about as bad as the hoopty, but.. nope, the hoopty was almost 22 cents per part, whereas this is "only" 13.5 cents per piece. The Hoopty might be a contender for worst licensed, non-gimmick playset. There's literally no role you could tell me Daniel Radcliffe is rumored for that I'd be skeptical of. The man takes the most random roles, does WELL in them, and has the fame to get a lot of them, so if you told me "Daniel Radcliffe has been cast as Storm in X-men" or "Daniel Radcliffe will be playing a 10 year old Damian Wayne", I'd be like "huh, a little strange the studio's letting him do that but yeah I guess he would" You're missing the point he's making, which is that they worked seamlessly with the MCU and didn't contradict it. Like I've been saying, it's not like Andrew Garfield's spider-man shows up in Daredevil for a scene. They were also made to work with the MCU, not made as part of another universe and retroactively yanked forwards into the new one too. I'd also point out that Born Again- which as far as I know we've never seen anything concrete about it being out of continuity with the original show, just that it was gonna be a soft reboot and extremely disrespectful to the lore- DID CHANGE. They didn't go through with it. They certainly seem to be going through with the peacemaker/TSS/etc stuff. If Gunn wakes up tomorrow and changes it to be a more streamlined canon break, with Superman being the start of the DCU and the scattered TSS era stuff being just the last of the DCU, I'll give him props for it. But that's not happening, whereas Daredevil, if it even was going to be a hard out of continuity reboot, WAS fixed to be essentially season 4.

I don't think clone sets specifically are any more overpriced than other lego star wars playsets- I mean sure the UT-AT and the clone wars Ahsoka's Starfighter are some top contenders, but there are plenty of sets from other parts of the franchise that are just as egregious (and all battle packs are $20 now, not just clone ones, not to mention that I might be in the minority here but the $30 one seems pretty good value for 2024/25). Overproduced might be more accurate, I think, I don't know the numbers, but also... is exactly my point, that lego thinks the clones are more popular than I think they actually are. I have a few major points of contention with that. The first is that it was never this bad- maybe in 2006 or something but this 2014 "dark age" always had a few prequel/clone sets hanging around. It was bad. I grant you that. But not 2025 bad, and it wasn't like every single set on shelves was imperial related. The second is that I strongly believe the solution to imbalance is not to create the opposite imbalance. A 5 year period where the prequels got the short end of the stick doesn't mean that now, when we've had pretty even ratios, we should suddenly have the clones dominating the theme to the extent of not getting a single OT playset. That doesn't fix anything, it just creates the opposite problem. This ties into the "the solution to a problem is not to create the opposite problem" thing- I really do not want them to "not make any more (clones) for 10 years." I would be sad for all the kids who wouldn't be able to buy any clones during that time. Again, the solution is variety, to have a mix of sets from different factions and eras, not "let's do a few years where almost all you can get are clones and then no more clones for a decade". I mean a big part of it is paying for the license. Not that it's really tangible or "worth it" in the same way as new molds or what have you, but it is a factor. Ah, you beat me to it. You're exactly right on this- we don't know how much exactly lego pays but for a franchise like star wars I can't assume it's cheap.

But we're some number of shows in. It'd be like if the MCU started by canonizing Hulk (2003)- except for a scene featuring, let's say nicholas cage ghost rider or something, since there'll be a new ghost rider in the MCU so he's not canon. Then we get an animated show where Thomas Jane's punisher and any other actors Fiege liked return as their characters, but canon to the new universe. And THEN we get iron man. For the GA it won't matter but you can't deny it's messy to canonize most of a show from the old universe and start your universe with - aside from the canonized show from the other universe- a TV-MA animated series with any actors the head honcho worked with returning. The netflix analogy really doesn't work- maybe I'm missing something big from Luke Cage or something, but the netflix shows always acted as if they were canon to the movies, and depending on which official you talked to, they were. It's not like Andrew Garfield's spider man shows up after Matt defeats Kingpin. Peacemaker was a show that was set in and included characters from the DCEU that they retroactively decided to make canon to a new universe and just handwave away the actors and characters Gunn didn't like enough to bring with. Daredevil was always intended to be canon to the MCU, references events from it multiple times, and has nothing contradictory to it. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Especially since it's a great mid-sized imperial vehicle, but then again, we don't get too many non-gimmick sets under $60-70 anymore. I keep forgetting this exists. It's not hate per se, but almost every single playset this year is either clones specifically or clone wars, to the extent that we aren't getting a single OT set. Even when the sequels were coming out I think there was always at least ONE PT playset every year, not to mention that it wasn't like all the other sets in whatever year were based on one era/faction. Aside from being disappointed that lego isn't putting out a single playset for what's pretty much unequivocally the most iconic part of the universe, I also think it's bad for clones in the long run- and I do like clones and collect them, so that also disappoints me. Loading a year up with this many clones, especially when we're already in a relatively clone-saturated period and the most iconic clones and legions have already been released just doesn't seem like it'll do all that well to me. If this was 2020 or 2021 and this was our big clone comeback, I think it'd have done great. But they get diminishing returns with these. Around me the clone battle packs have already started hitting sales. And I think at this point, especially with those packs- many of them on sale- still on shelves, stuff like the 327th pack isn't gonna do very well.

Sure- and the obscurity of the legion doesn't really impact the quality of the set. (Though at $150 and 830 pieces, I wouldn't get my hopes up there) I was just responding to someone who was implying they were iconic enough to carry a $150 set, which I feel really is not the case. The AT-OT is a good point with the fact that merch really can help recognizability. I think someone brought up the TX-130, which I think at this point despite not being in any movies or cartoons is more well known than something like the AT-UT- and that's almost entirely due to lego having made three of them. Yellow ones shot Secura approximately as many times as Ceaser was stabbed, maroon ones committed vehicular manslaughter, grey ones work with Dave Filoni, etc. I again am not saying that they're bad or don't deserve a set, I was just replying to someone who implied they were iconic to such a level that they'd be carrying a $150 set. I like em too, although my favorites are the 327th and 212th- but everyone's got their favorite legion, and in a time where we get 2-3 legions a year, I just don't think it's accurate to say one that, yes, is fairly obscure would be "carrying" a $150 set.

When the UCS Millenium Falcon came out in 2017, adjusting for inflation, it's original $800 retail price would be over $1k today. This one isn't on lego, it's on inflation. I do think it's possible we get something like that eventually. They'll want to test the waters more and more, but I think it would fulfill a currently open castle slot in lego's theme catalog, and could probably get a lot of kids interested just from that, rather than necessarily needing new content like some other themes. That said, it's a safer bet if they do it around the golumn movie, just because it draws more eyes to the franchise. (I don't have faith in a golumn movie, but if it's moderately successful, brings eyes to the franchise, and gets parents to show their kids LOTR, the revived theme could do well for itself. Harry Potter does well despite not really having much good new content.)

The rubber capes claim another victim. I've been warning about this for a year or so now. They're phasing out cloth. Everybody called me a madman. To be fair Gunn saying "there's an overarching narrative" doesn't suddenly give direction to what you have to admit is a pretty scattered start for the DCU- some actors are coming back, some aren't, blue beetle's actor/character is canon to the DCU but not his movie, Peacemaker season one is canon to the DCU but the DCEU justice league that show up in it aren't, the official start is a TV-MA animated show, etc. Not to mention it seems to be more focused on "writers bring me a script if I like the script we'll start filming", which isn't a bad idea for a movie studio but also isn't super conducive to putting out a connected plotline- it's not like the MCU where generally speaking for the entire infinity saga, they had the phases planned out of "this releases then, this releases then, this is after this", etc. Now the GA won't know any of that and if they market superman as a fresh start they could easily start something, but I'll believe there's an overarching narrative when I see it. Not really- the first phase heavily crosses over- Immediately after the first iron man movie we get into shield/black widow/nick fury/etc, the same shield that's a major presence in Thor. Hulk's whole thing is about the super soldier serum, which leads us into captain america, where hydra, much like the nazis in real life, were super into that norse stuff- back to Thor. The throughlines of putting together the avengers and asgard are both in multiple films in some capacity before Loki's invasion in avengers.

I have nothing against them- I think they're actually pretty cool and if it was a battle pack I'd pick one up- I'm just saying this isn't the 501st here, and this isn't 2020 when we were starved for clone minifigs. These guys aren't set carrying, which was the claim I was disputing. By this logic, a list of non-obscure characters would include the likes of Shu Mai, the aforementioned Hobbie Kilvian, that little gremlin from TLJ that thinks BB-8 is a coin machine, etc. Don't tell me those characters aren't obscure. Appearing in the movie for literally a few doesn't make a set carrying figure, which is my point. I like the galactic marines I'm glad they're getting a set, even if I think that a $150 UT-AT might be a bit overkill with the amount of clones coming this year. But yeah, they're kinda obscure. I doubt most people would put them in the 5 most iconic clone legions, and even then we've narrowed the search to "people who can name 5 clone legions", when a lot of fans would probably not get farther than 501st and 212th, or just "Anakin's blue ones and Obi-Wan's orange ones". No commander Doom and his clone legion (the legion of doom?) are gonna be the next marvel battle pack set with the justification that it's a multiversal variant of an avengers doomsday set. No yeah I completely agree, wedge was an investment into a minor character. I like him because he's the only background character to make it through the entire OT, he's the "normal guy" that never got the spotlight but survived all the major events. Sure, I don't disagree with any of that, my point is it's not accurate to claim the Galactic Marines are some sort of iconic set carrying thing whereas the 187th are some sort of drag on their set. It's the Wedge/Hobbie analogy I made. Agreed. I know you already figured out the RFT is the TX-130 but man a SPHA-T would go hard, and it's not any more obscure than the UT-AT (Arguably it's more well known since aside from being a movie for 2 seconds like the UT-AT, it was in both clone wars a bit.)

My point was moreso that if it's a TX-130 at $150, it would be a DC level mistake in that I don't think we've ever had a playset that upscaled before. Usually it's just stuff like BARCS and AT-RTs brought up ~100 pcs, this would be brought up like ~500 pcs. Although if it's at the wrong price point like the AT-TE and Scythe, what is it swapping with? The Turbo Tank would make sense but we've already heard about that set's figure list, and there's no way a $150 playset comes with three minifigures. I wonder if they already had disappointing sales data for those packs before the star wars ones, and the star wars ones were an attempt to keep it alive. Interesting. I can't imagine there's many new prints, so my guess for now is that it is indeed clone-related. Nobody who isn't DEEP into the lore knows what either the UT-AT or galactic marines are. I'm not saying they shouldn't be made, but they're pretty obscure. And this is splitting hairs. It's like saying more people know Wedge Antilles than Hobbie Klivian when to most people buying the set it's "rebel pilot". Sure, there might be a few people out there who know Wedge but not Hobbie, but it's not a set-carrying number of people who'd be interested in one but not the other. (Which I say as a big Wedge Antilles fan.)

That's really impressive, I never would have guessed it was based on a pre-existing (even if fan) design. The vehicle looks like something that could really exist in-universe and your alt build looks like it could have been an actual set.

I can't imagine this is true. That's a DC level mistake for a theme that, for all my griping about what it chose to base all the playsets off of this year, hasn't done anything like that... ever? Some of the smaller vehicles like BARCS and AT-RTs end up oversized but we've never seen anything on the level that would be. Not to mention I'm just not sure what their goal would be with it- the TX-130 isn't all that well known either, so it's not like they got cold feet about the UT-AT's iconicity. If it is true though, I think lego ends up angering clone fans, and while the clone bros will army build it anyway, it would be funny if lego simultaneously managed to tick off literally every segment of the fan base this year. I know the 2026 sets have probably already been chosen by now but man I can just FEEL that monkey's paw curling every time someone mentions something from clone wars that this wave missed. We're courting a round two and I think even the most diehard clone fans would have to admit two years of this would be pushing it. (That said, yeah, there's a ton of stuff from the prequel era that's overdue for a remake or just getting a first fig- Dooku chief among them- but we know what the prequels entail for lego now.) UCS Junior TX-130 would be cool -not as a "replacement" for a system set like this, but still- but I really don't think it's the case, I think whatever leaker that is got things mixed up. Price points are usually one of the first things known, I'm pretty confident that whatever this set is it'll end up being around $150. No WAY it's galactic empire, too. Lego's made their strategem for the year clear.

That's my hope as well, especially because even if I didn't buy that, it'd assumably be preceded by comic-based avengers sets where I could pick up some of the characters. Yeah, I mean it's not bad, I'm moreso just annoyed that it was such an easy slam dunk for lego and they somehow made it just... fine. I'd chalk that up to a test print that was made before the film was delayed.

Somehow this STILL feels optimistic to me, but that might just be because I wouldn't mind a new Batfleck or Cavill Superman figure (just kidding superman in that set would be a pipe dream. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't include ANY minifigures) Sure but that's back when there were normal comic sets to tie things into. Superman, THE superman, with a new movie coming out launching (I mean not really but for the purposes of the generally public, essentially) a new cinematic universe, got one mech. I don't think we see anything for anything else besides Batman unless it becomes MASSIVELY popular.

The question of the year. Lego's gambled almost every playset this year on the theory that clone bros dominate the fanbase and related sales. I think it's gonna be funnier to see the Coruscant battle pack on shelves at the same time- more figs, arguably just overall a better set (unless the AT-RT + DSD rumor is false), same faction, $10 less. Unless you care about the specific legion, there's no reason to purchase the 327th pack over the coruscant one.

V-19 Torrent's original leaked $60 price was too good to be true. $65 is reasonable assuming it has some larger pieces, though I'd have liked to have seen a 4th minifigure. We've known the 327th would be this expensive for awhile now, and how overpriced the set would be (AT-RT and DSD builds if I remember right) but the confirmation that it is officially a battle pack and not a normal set that happens to feature generics like the TX-130 is concerning. They've been doing this for awhile with stuff like the Hoopty and X-jet in other themes, plus of course our own Ahsoka's interceptor. Anytime they think something will sell particularly well (though I can't imagine why they anticipated significant demand for the hoopty) they jack that price up well above reasonable levels. I don't think $20 BPs are dead- we've had $30 and $20 BPs coexisting so I don't think this signifies a change. Agreed. Plus I feel like there weren't many of them- I feel like 1-2 hats could cover the advisors well. Was it ever reliably confirmed the death star would be the DS2 or both? It's most likely going to have to choose an exterior- I guess they could have breakaway panels on the lower part to swap between them, but it just seems unlikely to me- and unless it's both for the interior that 40 fig count seems unrealistic. (Honestly even IF it's both it still feels suspicious to me- the last one was 25 and not missing many people, so we're likely going to end up with the remaining 15 being just more officers and troopers (and potentially a few advisors) and I just don't see lego dropping that number of officers or troopers into a single set. I think we've known how overpriced it was for awhile, but I'm glad to see some people aren't going to suck it up and buy it anyway. I can see the timeline where only 1-2 of the clones come with pauldrons. I'm not saying it'll happen but I wouldn't put it past lego.

Unfortunately there's almost no way that was an real quicksilver torso, that leaked LONG before an in-production part should for a summer 2025 set, I don't remember exactly how long ago it was but it's not unlikely the quinjet hadn't even entered development yet. It's certainly possible that, say, quicksilver was meant to be in an earlier set and got as far as an early test printing before being cut, but I think the most likely option is just that the torso was fake.

I think everyone's forgetting that a massively popular (among kids) tv show has been running for about as long as the DC superheroes theme, and it hasn't gotten a single normal set.

I hope so. Just give me Ben, Jess, and/or some comic/show relevant ones. Replace Sun/Werewolf/Cyborg/Evil Miles with Unlimited/Jess/Ben/ITSV Prowler or Lady Spider and it's a much better list already. This is a great point- a ton of the discussion not only hear but on stuff like instagram and youtube was about which parts could be re-used for generic castle. And annoyingly, spider-verse HAS a lot of characters who have relevance to the comics, but for some reason they were eschewed for other, just-as-limited-screen-time spiders.

Hey he's a chill guy. I legitimately didn't even mean the pun, he just seems like a cool dude in the CW flash show. The Triumph is just Lex helping his only remaining friend. (I've decided it's canon that any legion members not in this book are gone because they were speedblitzed and murdered by superman) I like the idea that this universe's legion of doom is just two guys who don't even have powers.

Agreed on all parts. It is Andor, so it makes sense why they aren't going all out for something kids won't watch, but it is also a TIE fighter, and it feels like an obvious choice. Yeah I should have clarified, a normal song in english. One in a space language doesn't bother me as much. This has been discussed heavily a few weeks to a month ago, but it is crazy we haven't had mon in over 15 years. She's not a main character in the films or anything, but she's still an important role in the OT and a major character in Andor. Agreed, not my favorite choice for a trailer, although I understand why they did it. Not sure- Remember, Saw ends up fully a terrorist outcast. Luthen and Mon are on a collision course. Not that Cassian started the show a paragon of virtue, but he's gonna end up at the point where he shoots his own informant without a second thought shortly before dying on the death star. I think while the rebels will get more wins this season, there'll also be a lot more scenarios where the rebels cross lines and do some terrible things. (Plus Andor's friends and Luthen have to be written out, and while some of Andor's friends might just be off living somewhere else, Luthen's not going quietly.)

I'm very confident it's not a turn in the actual show's tone- all the happy music in the world can't change the shot that appears to show Saw's guys leaving after killing a civilian, or all the shots of stormies gunning people down, etc. But I hope it's not a turn in marketing.

Wildly confident for lego to feature Wonder Woman and Captain Cold in this given they haven't been seen in 5 and 9 years respectively. Most of his wealth is in the form of green rocks and not something he can easily liquidate. Cold needed some money for refrigerants and Lex said he could help before realizing he didn't really have the cash on him at the moment, so he went to go "rob" one of his own banks and eat the loss to get Cold the money.

It really would have made a good set, I get why lego doesn't give us much for Andor though- as good as it is it's not ok for kids, and lego still at the end of the day is a toy brand. I'm glad they're making something and always WANT more from andor, but it's understandable that lego isn't making playsets for a show that very few in that 6-12 age range would be watching. The music is really odd- I like the trailer, but it's weirdly upbeat and I think the first time real-world music has been used in a major SW trailer? I'm not against it here specifically, but it's something I hope is a one-and-done. It's clearly part of an attempt to appeal to an audience that normally wouldn't be a star wars fans, which is also why they throw all the reviews up there. (Though I honestly don't think I've ever met someone who would watch a show because one of those publications recommended it, it is how a lot of shows market). Assumably this is because disney saw the positive critical reception to S1 as well as it's comparatively low viewer count, and is trying to get people who view star wars as childish or modern SW as slop to come back and watch.