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If there were to be a Keanu Constantine minifigure before a comic accurate or even Matt Ryan version, I would put a curse upon the house of Lego for such an injustice. He is worse than Jack Nicholson's Joker. If anyone wants to talk about unnecessary changes to a character, then making the Hellblazer an American personality void just to suit the actor's range is up there.

Whenever I open the thread and see this weird discussion two things occur to me. One, I'm just glad it's not the same stuff that blighted the thread (and still does). Two, I feel like Dewey Cox whenever he'd walk in on Sam trying new drugs.

Gunn binned quite a few actors other than Cavill, I don't get why he gets preferential treatment when people get upset about this. Blue Beetle will return with the same actor but not the exact same character. I suspect that if shifting the balance of power had less to do with ego and more to do with unity then Black Adam could have returned sooner. Doctor Manhattan wrote issue 1.

In fairness the comics depict a team that goes on missions that are better suited to a group of oddballs with plot-useful powers, and I could describe either unit, Squad or Commandos. If the latter prove to do the job without coercion then that's pretty much the difference between them. Regarding canonicity, it could just as easily be like pre and post Flashpoint. He had to draw a line somewhere, and no artist proud of their work is going to try and convince people to ignore their previous efforts. The reappearance of Boomer, Harley, Flag and Waller showed that the film was connected to the previous one, if tenuously. Peacemaker had cameos from the Snyder JL, so that too had an obvious connection. You just have to look at the two, film and series, to know that Gunn loves his work and loved making them. He also showed us that he more than approved of some of the casting decisions, and didn't want to recast when his new vision demanded the characters come back. And let's face it, DC has never been a bastion of clear paths for it's mainstream narratives.

He was gifted the DCU having pitched his idea to world build. What better way than to carry on with what he began? TSS showed us that the secret service behind the Task Force program — or the driving force behind it — was crooked beyond belief, to the point that the field officer was fair game. Peacemaker took that and made it public while making the eponymous question his loyalty. The desire to do Creature Commandos justice might well have been around for a while, and this ties it to what we already have. It brings in Flag Sr. and makes the plausible change that the creatures of this world would be under Waller's control. Like she would allow these things to be free when she can use them. Their existence as a real team during the war is a stretch, however we know that G.I. Robot served in the war, so it is a reasonable assumption that he could have been a part of the original team, made up of the as yet unseen original members. The original Guardians got their recognition, showing that Gunn isn't afraid of a nod to the past. At least that's my hope.

Well that was a development. It's all moot because if anyone remembers what the original topic was supposed to be, they'll know that it's incredibly unlikely that Caped Crusader will realise any sets. However of the three changes presented so far, Penguin being gender-swapped, Harley being race-swapped and character flipped, and Two-Face being scarred differently and his character flipped, I feel that Penguin is the least dynamic change. I would hazard that they wanted to maintain difference between this and the live action Penguin. Having said all of that, I'm not a massive fan of gender or race swaps to a primary variant of a character as a rule. It doesn't seem to happen in any other artistic medium but with comics it's seen as fair game. It always seems like it's disrespectful to the original creators idea. Maybe I'm old fashioned and wrong. I also find it amusing that Gunn is being criticised for making the Creature Commandos contemporary and a Task Force, when they haven't been written as wartime based for about 25 years and were integrated with S.H.A.D.E. nearly 15 years ago. And also Gunn getting criticised for using daddy issues as a regular trope is to ignore the sheer number of paternity or even maternity tropes in DC.

Ha! Come for the quips, stay for the ambiguity.

Not so much a new logo as repurposing the long-serving bullet logo for the DCU. I'm hoping the series captures the madness of the concept and the chaos that such a concept would bring that this trailer does. Greatly appreciate the irony of the brief disappointment that a DC product won't see Lego sets quickly making way for whatever has captured the thread again. I feel I'm in danger of being told I'm going OT.

I know this is a long shot but if there's anyone out there who still hangs around for actual DC content, can I get a shout out of appreciation for the Creature Commandos trailer.

That's grossly unfair. The space exploration programme, the jungle development project, the undersea expansion scheme, and the travel network have all had horrendous levels of money poured into them. There must be some form of universal healthcare or a decent health insurance scheme in place, because the stunt bikers have been seen in hospital. It's a very unbalanced society, with a disproportionate amount of waste and recycling trucks and places to buy anything that generates rubbish. They don't need Batman, they need Green Arrow.

And that's with the US healthcare system. The man's a machine.

It's a bit hazy on the details so far. It appears to be the characters as if they were first created now rather than in the pre-war period. I know that Batman has nothing of what traditionally makes him Batman, so he's built himself up as almost wrestler like. Not sure on the other two other than the new looks they're sporting. What I don't know is if this is a new Earth, an Elseworld, or the new continuity. It looks like they are going down the same route as the Ultimate universe in Marvel. I'm not sure what to think of it yet.

Parasite, Metallo, Zod, Brainiac, Bizarro, Mongal, Darkseid, Doomsday, Superboy Prime, and several others would disagree. Especially Doomsday. It would have made 1992-93 really awkward otherwise.

Is that it? Have we reached the last episode? An existential crisis has triggered the cataclysmic implosion of the known universe. Made a note in my diary on the way here. Simply says, "bugger".

Ok, well it's a development. A new iteration of Two Face will mean we only need TLJ to round it out. Actually no, I would like a more traditional version with the half plaid suit. If the Tumbler can eject then that is a desirable bonus. And Joker? It's got to be the nurse, hasn't it? This would be slightly better received if it wasn't for the Marvel wave pissing on our chips.

A nice, gentle return to form. Superman needing armour is seemingly redundant but he has a history of it. With any luck this will be the beginning of something, like a soft introduction to Superman tie-in sets. And it's not Batman, and it's Q1 which suggests more than the one wave. @CloneCommando99see I wasn't sure about the first couple of waves, but a Groddcentric wave has me all in.

Given the context of the story that inaction might prove a dangerous weapon.

Buildable logos? They'll be exclusive to toyshops and it'll stay that way yeah?

This reminds me of the phenomenon that was DC and Marvel comics going to the same printers and the (very) odd issue appearing with not only the wrong cover but one from the rival company. Sadly far more likely than the run of sets mentioned above.

If there is cheese in my Mac and cheese I will not order the Mac and cheese. Heck I won't even go to the restaurant. Especially as I've heard they have a new chef.

No. Even if that were the case, there is a reason why both companies have teams of superheroes, teams of villains and anti-heroes, teams of oddballs, and analogues of their respective most popular characters. The history of comic books is littered with stories of artists and writers moving from company to company, and as they couldn't take their characters with them they created very similar ones. As well as that there's a long history of homage characters because the original ones are/were very popular. The whole battle lines thing is stupid. The mistake is thinking that Gunn is a Marvel guy. He's not, he's a geek with a keen eye for what works on screen and an ability to turn unlikely characters into fan favourites. The first DC film of the new era features the lynchpin of the company, backed up by what looks like a version of Justice League International. Marvel's lynchpin didn't join the MCU until the main story arc was in full swing. I am hoping really really hard that the squirrel gains possession of a Green Lantern ring, as is the natural way.

My point being that it wasn't from the final product and was still unceremoniously roasted. In a previous life I was an extra in films. One of them was directed by Spielberg who required a certain sky so there was an awful lot of waiting around. I spent my time talking to the props team, who had previously worked on Saving Private Ryan, the Harry Potter films, and Hellboy II. One of their ongoing issues was historically accurate props not looking realistic on film. I was shown a board featuring different sutures that were screen tested for SPR, including the cat gut sutures that were actually used by US Army medics on D-Day. The one chosen was anachronistic but looked better on screen. Those guys hated the nerds who slagged them off on WWII forums for being crap at their job. They had to sign the Official Secrets Act prior to watching a little seen film of D-Day casualties to get inspiration, and nearly all of the ones they witnessed and interpreted with prosthetics ended up on the cutting room floor because of the disbelief in early screen tests. Hence the casualties seen in the final film are gruesome but not as gruesome as they could easily have been. I can guarantee you that the wig sat on Fillion's head was not the first one they found, nor was it one they settled on, and that you'll never please all of the fans all of the time.

It's a set photo and not a true reflection of what we'll see on screen. The online uproar and mockery is on par with the photo of Superman putting his boots on, and all of that was proven wrong.

That's DC for you. The immediate predecessor to comics - pulp novels - unsurprisingly have the same genres of story, including sci-fi. There are elements of sci-fi to Batman like his technology, but he owes a great deal more to (who'd have thought it) detective stories, most notably he who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.