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Hmm. Carla's comments were definitely suspicious yesterday, but I was willing to chalk it up to some harmless speculation. I didn't want to rush to lynch such an experienced player this early. Reading her defense today however... She has gotten really defensive after Patti's accusation, and after her vote was effectively an OMGUS vote has sealed the deal for me. Vote: Carla Riddle (Dragonator)

Oh, good, we're all still here. Reading Carla's defense, I can see how she could have drawn that conclusion, but it still seems really... odd. I don't know how else to put it.

Wow, I don't know how I missed this! The angles and shaping are fantastic. Who doesn't love olive green?

40 to Bob!

I came up with another troubling scenario. Say the tracker tracks someone targeting a player who turns up dead the next day. The killer claims cop and says he investigated him the same night he was killed. How do we differentiate between a killer and a killer claiming cop? The real cop could counterclaim... But either way it doesn't end up well for the town. A watcher watching the victim could see both targeting him... And would have a better chance of figuring out who is who as he knows both identities. The tracker seems to lead to nothing but trouble. A watcher is a better pick than the tracker.

IMO a strongman in a game this small seems really overpowered, as it would render both the Roleblocker and Doctor roles useless.

Eh? Do you know something we don't?

PoE = Process of Elimination, right?

The idea is that they would watch the cop when the cop claims to have found a scummo. The scum wouldn't risk targeting the claimed cop, as they would be caught by the watcher and lynched the next day.

Well, this is a conundrum to be sure. Cop is really useless if there's no Doctor in play, and Doctor is useless if there is a Strongman in play. Which I still don't think there is. As it seems I am the only one advocating Doctor, I will vote for Cop and Watcher. Carla's logic seems sound. Vote: Cop Vote: Watcher

The reactors and fencing is great!

I asked DD about the PR voting/lottery in the role PM and she said it is a one-time thing and they will retain their roles for the rest of the game. On a side note, I got permission to relay this in-thread so I'm not breaking any rules.

That's the point. The cop claims in-thread if he has found a scum. The doc would protect him that night.

Infection conclusion is up! http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=116109

Oh, I didn't even think about that. If it's we choose our 2 PR's for the whole game, I'd push for Cop and Doctor. Without a Doc in the setup, and being unable to PM, as soon as the Cop has something to say he's going to get scum-killed.

Awesome rockwork, tree, and water! This one really reminds me of Jurassic Park.

Location: G10- Onix Tags: Civil, Vehicle, Space Vehicle Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Picking up where we left off... Nate: Keep running! There's an exit just up ahead! Jebediah: There's nowhere left to run. We're trapped. Nate: They're here. Jebediah: You go on ahead! I'll hold them off as long as I can. Nate: I'm not going to leave you to fight a horde of the undead on your own. Jebediah: This is it then. End of the line. *pew pew* Zombie: Uhhhh... Nate: What?! Jebediah: Guy! You got my message! Guy: You're darn right I did! I got home from the pumpkin patch just in time to come pick you up! *pew pew* Guy: Got em! Let's go! Nate: Everyone onboard? Let's get out of here! Jebediah: Six weeks of buildup for that? That's kinda lame. Guy: Oh, just you wait. Corporate also ordered a fireworks show. Missile should be touching down in 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... *explosion* *crackling fire* Nate: Well worth it. THE END... ...OR IS IT?

I thought we voted and got one-shots to random players each day. If they stay PR's for the rest of the game, we need to vote Cop and Doctor. Cop claims, reports investigation, is protected by doctor. As scum is 2-3 players strong it is highly unlikely they will have a watcher/tracker/rolecop to be able to identify the doc. If it's one shots like I thought, we should vote cop and tracker/watcher today and see what tomorrow holds in store.

Awesome (and colorful ) build! Tons of NPU! I spy hairpieces, headpieces, scorpions, spiders... All kinds of good stuff! Excellent job.

Hmm. I was thinking we would vote 2 PR's each day and random townies would receive a one-shot of that action that night. I read up on 9 player setups on the MafiaScum wiki and I doubt there would be a SK or vig. If we figure one is killed each night and one is lynched each day (except for today, of course) the game should last at least to Night 5. If a killer is blocked/target protected/no-lynch happens, we could potentially be looking at 6-7 days. In these later stages Doctor could become a very important role.

Reading through everything again, I suppose you are right. Doctor would be more important in the later stages of the game, but for Day 1 an informative role like tracker/watcher would probably be better.

That wouldn't really work as the two PR's are distributed randomly among the town players. Someone could claim vanilla and they are actually vanilla, but then the next night they get an action in the lottery. They're caught using it via tracker and are lynched for it, since they claimed vanilla. Does that make sense? You could put yourself in the scums position and think "Who would I kill if I were scum?" and then protect that person. I still think strongarm role is a red herring. There's no way DD would straight out tell us about one of the scums role modifiers. Seeing some of the arguements against Doctor (such as Bob's offensive vs. defensive roles) are making me reconsider my standpoint. I think Watcher would be the next best bet, if no one else wants to elect Doctor.

Is there a Challenge 3 in the works? Also, any chance of some double length weeks coming up?

Hey guys! Desiree here! I agree cop is our best bet for the first PR. As for the second one, I'd say we pick Doctor. In a game this small, I really doubt there would be a strongman role modifier. With only 9 of us, having a chance to prevent the scum kill could be huge.

Awesome job! The curved tower is fantastic and I really like the meandering nature of the path.