mostlytechnic

Oh don't worry, I am looking at them with much suspicion. Using both eyes, even.

I don't think there's any rolecop that could confirm a miller claim. Correction, I just googled and the normal rolecop does return the subject's role like that. I can't recall ever having one around, so I wasn't familiar with it. If the scum want to infiltrate the block, miller is NOT the way to do it. If I'm in the block I'm never letting a miller in at all, unless we've got a rolecop that can actually verify the miller role. Otherwise, there's no reason to trust them. You're right though, claiming miller is a message to the investigative roles. That's why the recommendation on how to play it is to claim immediately. See above - when you voted for me, that's when you accused me of being too helpful. At least that's how I interpreted your accusation of being "too towny" and therefore must be scum

That's illogical. Sorry, thought I was cosplaying a Vulcan for a second. But really, that statement makes no sense. Either Hera is scum, and would investigate as scum, or she's a miller, and would investigate as scum. Nothing for the investigator to check!

So being helpful now is scummy? Hm. Have a reason for that? Just "I'm suspicious" is hardly a reason. Really, you're finding someone you trust already? So based on this (which I agree, bandwagon gets overused), does the Joker's vote on me count, since he's just parroting what chell already said? :) I'm going to Vote: Wonderwoman (forresto) When the votes were piling up on Ellie yesterday, there were 4 votes in a row on her. Then a pause as a few votes went other ways. I think WW could have been trying to kick the voting back in her direction.

Not to defend the new guy, but isn't that an accurate position to be in? I'm suspicious of everyone but myself. Like superman said, no one is going to answer that. It'd just be opening themselves up to getting killed by the scum tonight. Those with actions will slowly build a "town block" of trusted people that will chat in private, and only rarely will info get shared publicly. In fact, blowing their cover is part of why I didn't jump on the Ellie wagon yesterday. Without a good reason to lynch her, what if she IS a town power role (PR) and about to get lynched? She'd be forced to reveal her ability, crippling her for the rest of the game and therefore crippling US for the rest of the game.

If he had that, he wouldn't need us.... where'd be the fun then?

Ok fine... you were a little fluffy, he was very fluffy. That better?

Thanks, I for one appreciate the fun aspects of these hunts. On the other hand, didn't you just fill a post with rambling about who placed random votes on day 1 (when all the votes are pretty random) while calling out Hector for fluff posts? Now, I agree with you on Hector's giant wall of quotes post, but a bit hypocritical there aren't you Mr. Pirate-wannabe? Yep, and admitted to doing so when I placed my vote. Should Ellie flip scum, and I didn't vote for her, I'd expect to be examined for it. Likewise, if we find out Hera was truthful, I'd expect to be examined for my vote. In the same way, I'm examining the people who jumped onto a day 1 bandwagon.

Hey, quit trying to see inside my head. That's not how it works. And are you ever gonna talk? or just eat pizza and look at us? And got any more room on your cube over there? Sitting would be nice. /looks down Yep, I do have hips that bend. Had to check... Well, I'm still looking hard at chell, wonderwoman, and Batgirl, based off those votes. Right there in the sweet spot for the scum to be jumping on a bandwagon....

Dang, you beat me to it Oroku. Was going to say all the same stuff. I was leaning towards the Superman thing being for fun, but then I realized the rules don't have the common "there are no hints/information in the images" statement. So maybe that WAS a hint... but of what? Surely more than 1 action happened last night.

No, not yet. That's normal. Early votes on day 1 tend to be random, joking or poking votes. How could anyone have anything to go on? And then either 1 bandwagon forms and someone gets lynched, or a couple form and no one does. Either way, later analysis recognizes that your early vote wasn't serious. If you don't have anyone you really think deserves a vote, then leave it, and people will think what they will from it. Or if you think someone IS suspicious, then change your vote. Either way, you didn't blow it (IMHO).

To me, what's worse is the day 1 lynch wagons have a serious potential to out one of our PRs. I've seen times where a PR was getting wagonned, had to publicly claim on day 1 to save themselves, and then weren't nearly as useful the rest of the game (occupied a bunch of the other PRs' time protecting them and so forth). I MUCH agree that day 1 it's more important to see how people vote and who they vote for, than it is to actually lynch someone.

Why do you think you'll die tonight? It doesn't appear that you're getting lynched (unless things change over the next 24 hours), and the scum would have no reason to kill you whether your claim is true or not. The ONLY way you'd die tonight is a vig kill, and that'd be risky since I'd expect the scum to watch you with any abilities they have hoping to catch the vig. I'd say the odds of you dying tonight are far lower than any of the rest of us. Wow. Seems pretty aggressive for a day 1 where he hardly did anything.... Ah, you beat me to it while I was typing. I miss magical books.

How? He's made TWO posts today. That's the least talkative person here (there's a few others that quiet, but he's still tied for last place).

Finn, why you asking just the Joker? Given that Joker voted for superman, I'm pretty sure he'd be open to that discussion tomorrow. But was this post meant to be on your scum private chat?

Man, eat some bad pizza, go away to, um, get rid of it, and so much drama happens. Well, keep in mind that a miller isn't really a town "role" - it's just something to confuse us. A miller is no more useful to town than any vanilla townie - so the only benefit to town is, well, his vote. In all my previous conventions, I've seen several miller claims. As far as I can remember, they've all been legit. But at some point the scum will certainly use it. So to me, voting for our miller is no better nor worse than any other vote today, since we don't really have anything to go on. This is why millers are supposed to claim immediately. Later in the convention, they'd almost certainly get lynched. Doing it now, we can discuss and keep an eye on them if we choose to let them live.However, it'd be a great claim for a vanilla scum to make. They don't have any ability to get caught using (at least not till some of the scum team is gone and they're forced to take a role) All that said... I'm in a pickle here. I strongly feel like the voting on Ellie is a typical day-1 bandwagon, and there's a good hunk of the scum team in there (particularly suspicious of Chell and Batgirl, given their position in the vote). By my count, the only people not yet voting are myself and pirate superman. But if we both vote Ellie, she still doesn't get lynched; we'd need someone to change a vote to take her out. But do I want to take her out? Yes, a lynch gives us info. But I've argued many times in previous scum hunts that it's not worth it. Killing off a fellow townie (based on the odds, that's what usually happens) takes away a vote and a potential PR. So I can't in good conscience try to join the bandwagon. The only other person with multiple votes on them is our miller-claimer. So that's where I feel like I need to vote. I'd rather take out someone who AT BEST is a non-PR townie, than risk taking out a potential PR. Plus, Ellie has been the most talkative person today. Would that be a scummo? Not usually. So I'm playing the odds here. Vote: Hera (stickfig) (and Doctor, is that enough of my thoughts for you? I tried to get them all down here for the record)

Crap, you mean I have to keep track of weird crossover cosplays now? You people are confusing enough, and I've only got one eye to watch you with.

Hey, can we vote yet? There's a pile of people who haven't started talking (too busy eating pizza?) and I wanna vote them out. The quicker we get rid of the bad cosplayers the quicker you all can appreciate my costume.

*rummaging through the pop selection* What, no butter beer?!?! Guess I'll have to live on Mtn Dew and pizza. Close enough I guess.

Or get lynched for them. That's always an option too :)

Mad-eye's here, ready to hunt the bad cosplayers!

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Thanks again bob! Definitely planning to return for a sequel.

Heh, I guess it'd help if we actually read the chart huh...