Marvel Superheroes 2015 Rumors & Discussion

[Quicksilver]

I think what you are pointing out is more about Lego having a contract with DC waaaayyy before they had one with Marvel. As for the movie appearance that is because the movie was made by Warner Brothers who also have the rights to DC characters so it was like a 2 for 1 for them!

Lego had a Spider-Man license through sony to promote the Spider-Man movies from 2002-2004 back when Lego still used yellow faces for licensed sets.

Lego only had the license to just the Batman character from 06-08.

Then Lego got the License for all of DC and Marvel. So Marvel has had a lisence with Lego for longer than DC.

For why Marvel was not in the Lego Movie it was because Disney did not want it's characters in a Movie made by a rival studio. That is also the Case with R2-D2 as he was in the early script but was cut when Disney bought Lucasfilm.

[elederberg]

Lego had a Spider-Man license through sony to promote the Spider-Man movies from 2002-2004 back when Lego still used yellow faces for licensed sets.

Lego only had the license to just the Batman character from 06-08.

Then Lego got the License for all of DC and Marvel. So Marvel has had a lisence with Lego for longer than DC.

For why Marvel was not in the Lego Movie it was because Disney did not want it's characters in a Movie made by a rival studio. That is also the Case with R2-D2 as he was in the early script but was cut when Disney bought Lucasfilm.

But Sony owns Spiderman not Disney therefore the Marvel we have now, Disney Marvel, is not the same as the Marvel then.

[Quicksilver]

But Sony owns Spiderman not Disney therefore the Marvel we have now, Disney Marvel, is not the same as the Marvel then.

It might not be the same as now but we were getting sets based on Comic Book characters originally made by Marvel.

DC and LEGO are butt buddies. They love eachother. TT Games is owned by Warner Bros. The LEGO Movie was made under Warner Bros. Ninjago and Chima air under a Warner channel. Disney and LEGO like eachother a lot, though.

That's a problem as sincev Lego has rights to Warner Bros and Disney Movies and the Movies, Video games and TV Specials are produced by Warner Bros, Lego is more likely to favor them.

Meaning we still get sets from Marvel, Star Wars and Disney Princesses but Lego might tilt towards advertising sets from DC, The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings.

Also don't the Lego Yoda chronicles air on a Disney network?

Edited December 8, 2014 by Quicksilver

[Numbuh1Nerd]

I think there have been talks to include Marvel characters and more Star Wars characters in the sequel though.

[kevkipo]

It might not be the same as now but we were getting sets based on Comic Book characters originally made by Marvel.

That's a problem as sincev Lego has rights to Warner Bros and Disney Movies and the Movies, Video games and TV Specials are produced by Warner Bros, Lego is more likely to favor them.

Meaning we still get sets from Marvel, Star Wars and Disney Princesses but Lego might tilt towards advertising sets from DC, The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings.

Also don't the Lego Yoda chronicles air on a Disney network?

Advertising the Hobbit and LOTR?

They do nothing to advertise the Hobbit and LOTR, we only got 2 waves of LOTR and there is so much still missing

[Ultron]

Does else anyone else think that Lego favours DC more then Marvel?

Without a doubt in my mind. Pisses me off

[Quicksilver]

Advertising the Hobbit and LOTR?

They do nothing to advertise the Hobbit and LOTR, we only got 2 waves of LOTR and there is so much still missing

I remember seeing a commercial advertising the Mines of Moria set back on 2012 and The Lake Town Chase set last year.

However, in regards to Marvel, I have not seen any advertising for Lego Marvel sets besides one TV spot for the Quinjet in 2012

[cullmancreations]

I havnt seen them air on TV but on Lego.com there are advertisements that would be for TV on the GOTG sets

[kevkipo]

I remember seeing a commercial advertising the Mines of Moria set back on 2012 and The Lake Town Chase set last year.

However, in regards to Marvel, I have not seen any advertising for Lego Marvel sets besides one TV spot for the Quinjet in 2012

That says nothing, it's not about the commercials but about the idea's put in sets

[Quicksilver]

That says nothing, it's not about the commercials but about the idea's put in sets

So, along the lines of what play features and Minifigures are in the new sets?

[slugdude]

Lego seems to favor DC because DC and Warner brothers are doing much worse than Marvel on most fronts, so they are urging Lego to make more movies, games, ads, etc. so they can better compete with Marvel. Marvel gets many more sets per year with many marketable characters and even ones many people don't know, DC has much less well-known characters so they only make a few sets with Batman every year. Ergo, they need more non-system products to keep up with Marvel.

[Quicksilver]

Lego seems to favor DC because DC and Warner brothers are doing much worse than Marvel on most fronts, so they are urging Lego to make more movies, games, ads, etc. so they can better compete with Marvel. Marvel gets many more sets per year with many marketable characters and even ones many people don't know, DC has much less well-known characters so they only make a few sets with Batman every year. Ergo, they need more non-system products to keep up with Marvel.

DC has more iconic characters like Superman, Batman, Flash and Wonder Woman but Marvel has WAY more characters that are marketable like Spider-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Wolverine, Rocket Raccoon and Groot.

The reason Lego probably makes so many Batman Sets is because he has such a large rouge gallery (Joker, Bane, Penguin, Solomon Grundy etc) and he has a lot of different variations (Greg and Blue, Black, Scuba, Dark Knight Trilogy, Zebra suit etc) that Lego can make and put in different sets, so children want to buy all the sets to have all of the variations.

[Krikkit]

Spiderman has the largest rogue galery if i recall, and iron man has many armour varients that can be done. Spiderman also has a lot of clones and varients. Iron, black, ultimate, mutant, scarlet....

[Jay_Em]

I do hope we get a second wave of Marvel in 2015. As great as the AoU sets should be, there are so many other characters we could be delving into. Just so long as they're not all Spiderman sets...

[Quicksilver]

Spiderman has the largest rogue galery if i recall, and iron man has many armour varients that can be done. Spiderman also has a lot of clones and varients. Iron, black, ultimate, mutant, scarlet....

Iron Man has had 4 variations of the armour which is a lot for 1 figure in Superheroes range which is nice.

But Lego has only put out the TV show version of Spider-Man in the 7 Sets with Spiderman in it.

Also in regards to the Rouge Gallery of Spider-man, he and Batman have around the same number of Rouges, but Lego has only made Doc Ock(x2), Venom (x2), The Bettle, Electro and The Ultimate Goblin in Spider man sets but they have The Riddler, Joker, Bane, Man-Bat, Cat Woman, Mr.Freeze, Posion Ivy, Scarecrow and Killer Croc among others in the Batman Rouges category.

Personal there needs to be more Comic based Marvel sets, so we can get newer figures not in TV shows or Movies like Mysterio, Fing Fang Foom, Classic Purple Green Goblin, Captain Marvel, Moon Knight, Punisher and Gambit, Which we would (probably) all prefer over another Spider-Man set.

[Steph 104th]

We saw a lot of Spiderman as he is one of Marvel kid favorites, almost every third kid you pass has him on their shirt, but even more kids walk around with superman and batman shirts.

DC has more iconic character even though they have less films to back them up.

I think Marvel designers have to work even harder to make the sets more appealing to the young consumer than something with Batman in it.

[kevkipo]

So, along the lines of what play features and Minifigures are in the new sets?

Yes, what tought is put into the sets. the creative idea's

[kevkipo]

NEWS!

It's not much but it's something:

SpeelGoed.nl has the sets listed as Avengers 1 to 6

1 - 76029 14,99 EURO

2 - 79030 26,99 EURO

3 - 76031 39,99 EURO (Strange price?)

4 - 76032 89,99 EURO

5 - 79038 79,99 EURO

6 - 76041 59,99 EURO

Pre-Ordered all , nah just kidding i wanna see them first

Edited December 9, 2014 by kevkipo

[Faefrost]

Lego had a Spider-Man license through sony to promote the Spider-Man movies from 2002-2004 back when Lego still used yellow faces for licensed sets.

Lego only had the license to just the Batman character from 06-08.

Then Lego got the License for all of DC and Marvel. So Marvel has had a lisence with Lego for longer than DC.

For why Marvel was not in the Lego Movie it was because Disney did not want it's characters in a Movie made by a rival studio. That is also the Case with R2-D2 as he was in the early script but was cut when Disney bought Lucasfilm.

Not quite. It isn't simply that Disney did not want their characters in a movie made by a rival studio. It's that just as Disney wholly owns Marvel these days Warner Brothers, the films makers, wholly own DC. But even then some agreements were reached. Note that we did get Star Wars and the appearance of some Marvel characters. It's just that those things can be absolutely brutal and very very hard to do. For fun go look up all the back end dealing and contractual minutiae that went on between the same two studios to actually put classic Walt Disney and Warner Brothers characters on screen together in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It isn't that the studios were playing any sort of deliberate pissing matches. Heck both studios loved the idea, it's just that it gets so overwhelmingly complex to do because t=of the complexity of the IP's and the rights (and yes some minor rivalry's. Case in point in Roger Rabbit Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse appear on screen at the same moment side by side during a falling scene. This was both a sneaky and a snarky way that the films production team got around the annoying requirement that neither character could have any more or less screen time or focus than the other.)

Heck this stuff is complex even when it does not seemingly need to be so. Marvel and Sony have actually been on pretty good terms lately. And rumor is they would have both loved to throw an MCU cameo the others way, with Spiderman showing up in the Avengers somewhere and an MCU character in an AMS film. But the shear complexity of it all once it hits the lawyers just left them walking away drooling. That's why we got the little teases of the Oscorp tower in Avengers and Stark Tower in AMS instead. They could write those off as Easter Eggs and not get the lawyers involved.

we got mostly DC heros in TLM because WB is DC and that is their familiar ground. They don't have to ask to use them. And yes characters crossing studio lines gets weird and hard. I mean what happens to the licensing for theme park rides and shows if you stick Spiderman vs Batman in a movie? There is a whole trickle down of potential consequences if you are not careful.

But weirdly Disney and Marvel seem to be figuring out a key piece of what has led to the comic movie renaissance. Cross brand Synergy. The old mean nasty rivalries of the past are being shoulved aside by a newer younger team who grew up with these characters and love all of them. and they understand that whoever goes to see Cap 3, WILL go see Sup v Bats the next week. No question. And you can help drive people into those two films by cooperation on a Cap + Sup Lego silly movie. As long as the movies remain strong well written and engaging they build from each other regardless of studio. It is only when absolute dreck (Ghost Rider? etc) starts hitting screen that both studios take hits.

That is the large part of why Marvel is being such a classical style bastard to Fox regarding the Fantastic Four. They fear that movie is so awful that it can do collateral brand damage all across the 4 color funny pages.They do not want it associated with them, not that it will help when it goes down in flames.

Lego seems to favor DC because DC and Warner brothers are doing much worse than Marvel on most fronts, so they are urging Lego to make more movies, games, ads, etc. so they can better compete with Marvel. Marvel gets many more sets per year with many marketable characters and even ones many people don't know, DC has much less well-known characters so they only make a few sets with Batman every year. Ergo, they need more non-system products to keep up with Marvel.

Lego favored DC for TLM because it stemmed from a long standing succesful production relationship. Lego had been working with Cartoon Network for a long time. CN is wholly owned Warner Brothers. Between Ninjago and the success of the Star Wars stuff pre disney they had a good working relationship.

That is not to say that Lego does not have superb ties to Lucasfilms, Disney and Marvel. Just not quite as familiar with the environment as things were transitioning over there. (Although Lego just got a huge boost of confidence and support from Disney last week when word leaked that Hasbro was considering buying Dreamworks. Disney walked up told the Hasbro board that they would then be considered chief rivals and all Star Wars, Disney, Princess, etc contracts would immediately end.

But Sony owns Spiderman not Disney therefore the Marvel we have now, Disney Marvel, is not the same as the Marvel then.

That is often over quoted and poorly understood. For a period Sony did have near total rights over Spiderman. After SM3 and the problems they were reverting back to Marvel and SONY renegotiated. Sony has a bigger and better cut of the movies. But SONY has none of the merchandising, no character rights to third parties etc. It all goes through and to Marvel. So SONY cannot issue a toy license based on an AMS movie any longer. That has reverted to the IP owner.

The X-Men movies and FF are in a bit of a bind. Marvel does not have all the rights back, but they do have absolute right to veto any and all merchandise. Thus denying Fox their cut. Hence why no directly attributable X-Men merchandise out of the last 2 movies.

[Shib]

^Very well put Faefrost.

For people who don't get why Marvel is annoyed with Sony over Fantastic Four it's worth remembering that the film is being hurried through so that the rights don't revert back to Marvel (as has happened with Daredevil) and this is not the first time it's happened for the Fantastic Four franchise. Fans of the TV show Arrested Development will be familiar with the idea of a terrible b-moive Fantastic Four film that was made to keep the rights - this was based on an actual event that happened.

Licensing rights are massively complex and can often be the reason we don't see Lego produce the things we want - e.g it might be the reason for no Superhero theme CMF lines.

[Steph 104th]

I just find it sad that all these licenses get in the way of the ultimate MCU-maybe the we could get larger Lego Marvel lines and it could be loved by Lego as Batman and his league is(don't get me wrong I want DC as much as marvel) if only these license issues disappeared.

[ZionAzure]

Can we get a MOD on this page? This thread is for 2015 Marvel Sets not who Lego has the biggest crush on and there are 2 pages of you people just going back and forth.

[kevkipo]

Toy news for AoU has surfaced:

Not too long after the New Year arrives, we'll start to see licensed merchandise and toys, among other things, based on Earth's Mightiest Heroes and their newest adversaries as they will appear in the hyped Avengers: Age of Ultron. However, thanks to BigBadToyStore and Ikon Collectables, early details have surfaced for toys being developed for the Marvel sequel. Apparently, Funko will have Pop Vinyls of "Vision, Ultron, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Hawkeye, Captain America, Faded Vision, and Savage Hulk," which could confirm one iteration of the Hulk that will be in the movie. As for Diamond Select's Minimates, check out the official product descriptions for two assortments below

It's almost here – the most anticipated Marvel movie since the last Marvel movie! With the trailer for "Avengers: Age of Ultron" already shattering records, DST is preparing the first assortment of Minimates based on the movie!

Four two-packs will feature Iron Man with Black Widow, Thor with Captain America, Hawkeye with Ultron and a rare one-per-case variant pack of Hawkeye in his long coat with a Sub-Ultron!

Each 2-inch Minimate mini-figure features 14 points of articulation and interchangeable parts, and comes packaged in a full-color window box. Designed by Art Asylum.

For a movie as big as "Avengers: Age of Ultron," one assortment is not enough! This colorful countertop display holds 18 individually blind-bagged Minimates based on the movie,

including multiple types of Ultrons, Iron Man's Iron Legion, plus one-per-case Minimates of Baron Strucker and Nick Fury!

Every bag contains one 2-inch Minimate mini-figure, featuring 14 points of articulation and interchangeable parts.

Sadly... nothing on LEGO

[Pulp Detective]

That's a shame.Guess we have to wait until toy fair for more info about the sets.

[TheBrickPal]

Toyfair really isn't so far away now. I can hardly wait!

Edited December 9, 2014 by Puffle Pal26