Missing Brick Posted January 6, 2013 There's also a cheaper option of using a single PF-train bogie but with a much heavier ballast weight fitted directly over the power bogie. The problem is that with 5 carriages in tow the power bogie just spins its wheels in corners since it can't get enough traction. Stick a 300-500g weight over the bogie and problem solved. I use some little bags of lead weights from a set of fitness wrist weights I had lying around. Works well with my emerald night so should be fine with the Horizon Express. Note that the AAA battery box only weighes 100g so it's not heavy enough on its own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc2dc Posted January 6, 2013 This is a fantastic set. You have to get two of them though. Here is what ours looks like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazarus Posted January 6, 2013 like the crash at the end :-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Locomotive Annie Posted January 6, 2013 I really like your layout kc2dc. Lots of interesting things happening all over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cei Posted January 6, 2013 Hah, poor Airport Shuttle :( Reminds me I need to pick up more monorail track... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lance Posted January 6, 2013 You have a couple of options: 1. Power functions front and rear This is what I have done, adding a complete set of power functions front and rear. I have also changed the rear light lenses to red which looks good. Pros: Lights rear lights up without trailing extensions through the train. Power from the rear will help avoid train from accidentally uncoupling. Double set of batteries so longer running time between battery changes. Can split the two sets in half and run as two trains! Cons: Expense. Chance that one IR receiver may get a signal and the other one doesn't - not noticed this yet and doesn't overly worry me. Possible imbalance if one set of batteries has less charge than the other. 2. Two power bogies in front locomotive You can also just add a second power functions bogie to the front loco. Pros: Cheaper. No chance of power bogies having conflicting commands. Cons: The bogies will be facing in opposing directions so you will either have to add an 8869 control switch to reverse the polarity to the rear bogie, or open the bogie up and rewire it in reverse inside (soldering required). Rear lights will not light up, unless you add extensions through the train, or add a battery pack to the rear loco just for the lights. I think we'll use the second option, as it seems a lot simpler. Thanks for the help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LegoSjaak Posted January 6, 2013 This is a fantastic set. You have to get two of them though. Here is what ours looks like True, two of these sets is essential... I think it is clever to push people a bit to decide to buy two... you just want two....haha...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kungpo Posted January 6, 2013 I've run mine with 2 9V motors (one at each end) rather than PF (at this time). Runs fairly fast, and will still derail at times on a normal semi-circle curve. I can live without the lights so far although I do have a set of PF lights coming from S@H. She's a beauty and looks good on a decent stretch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheTunnelTurn Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) That train's wicked cool. This video shows it powered. Edited January 7, 2013 by TheTunnelTurn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc2dc Posted January 7, 2013 Hah, poor Airport Shuttle :( Reminds me I need to pick up more monorail track... What's wrong with the shuttle? We love the monorail, I think it's the best part of our layout! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oddjob Posted January 7, 2013 Erm, because it crashed.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc2dc Posted January 7, 2013 Erm, because it crashed.. oh...duh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OneDragon Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) This is a fantastic set. You have to get two of them though. Here is what ours looks like Wow! Is this your layout? Edited January 7, 2013 by futuresportz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy Posted January 7, 2013 Here is my two cents on powering this train: What I did was buy two sets. Use one battery box and one receiver and run a cascade of extension wires with a control switch to power a motor at either end. Then I hooked up the front and back lights to the PF motor plug and put lights in each carriage powered from the extension cord. Lights and engines are all powered from one port of the receiver. It drives nicely, the motors fit well and the entire thing is lit up nicely. What I used: -2 10233 Horizon express -1 Power Functions IR Receiver -1 Power Functions Rechargeable Battery Box -2 Power Functions Train Motor (88002) -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 20” -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 8" -1 Power Functions Control Switch -8 Power Functions Light Kind regards, Teddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wondermonkey Posted January 7, 2013 Here is my two cents on powering this train: What I did was buy two sets. Use one battery box and one receiver and run a cascade of extension wires with a control switch to power a motor at either end. Then I hooked up the front and back lights to the PF motor plug and put lights in each carriage powered from the extension cord. Lights and engines are all powered from one port of the receiver. It drives nicely, the motors fit well and the entire thing is lit up nicely. What I used: -2 10233 Horizon express -1 Power Functions IR Receiver -1 Power Functions Rechargeable Battery Box -2 Power Functions Train Motor (88002) -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 20” -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 8" -1 Power Functions Control Switch -8 Power Functions Light Kind regards, Teddy WOW! How long does it run? It must look like a sideways Christmas tree! (In a good way) :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cei Posted January 7, 2013 What's wrong with the shuttle? We love the monorail, I think it's the best part of our layout! Poor Airport Shuttle because it got smacked by a significantly larger Maersk! I love my Shuttle too - managed to find a MISB 6921 track expansion for the bargain price of £40 the other day, but I want more! (To be specific, points, straights, inclines...) Here is my two cents on powering this train: What I did was buy two sets. Use one battery box and one receiver and run a cascade of extension wires with a control switch to power a motor at either end. Then I hooked up the front and back lights to the PF motor plug and put lights in each carriage powered from the extension cord. Lights and engines are all powered from one port of the receiver. It drives nicely, the motors fit well and the entire thing is lit up nicely. What I used: -2 10233 Horizon express -1 Power Functions IR Receiver -1 Power Functions Rechargeable Battery Box -2 Power Functions Train Motor (88002) -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 20” -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 8" -1 Power Functions Control Switch -8 Power Functions Light Kind regards, Teddy That must be quite a draw on a single box? I've got mine running now as a train of two halves... Front: Rechargeable box Dual motors (1x normal, 1x reversed) Front lights Rear: AAA box Rear lights This means I don't have a wire running down the 6 passenger carriages to deal with, and my rear power is totally independent. Does mean I have to use 2x IR receivers though, and two channels (motors on one, lights on another). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legoboy1a2 Posted January 7, 2013 Here is my two cents on powering this train: What I did was buy two sets. Use one battery box and one receiver and run a cascade of extension wires with a control switch to power a motor at either end. Then I hooked up the front and back lights to the PF motor plug and put lights in each carriage powered from the extension cord. Lights and engines are all powered from one port of the receiver. It drives nicely, the motors fit well and the entire thing is lit up nicely. What I used: -2 10233 Horizon express -1 Power Functions IR Receiver -1 Power Functions Rechargeable Battery Box -2 Power Functions Train Motor (88002) -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 20” -2 Power Functions Extension Wire 8" -1 Power Functions Control Switch -8 Power Functions Light Kind regards, Teddy could you post some pictures of it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy Posted January 7, 2013 That must be quite a draw on a single box? I've got mine running now as a train of two halves... Front: Rechargeable box Dual motors (1x normal, 1x reversed) Front lights Rear: AAA box Rear lights This means I don't have a wire running down the 6 passenger carriages to deal with, and my rear power is totally independent. Does mean I have to use 2x IR receivers though, and two channels (motors on one, lights on another). Hi Cei, Actually, it is quite okay. I have been running the train for some while now and I have not noticed anything particular in regard to battery life. One motor pulling hard also drains the battery as it requires much more current to overcome the resistance. Probably not as much current as two motors running the same train, but I think the difference is much less than two. This is from the Lego website: The current consumption will depend heavily on the load it is driving. Under normal conditions it can be around 225 mA and we do not recommend a continuous use above 450 mA. So current consumption of one motor can double under heavy load. The current consumption of the lights is negligible compared to the motors. Kind regards, Teddy could you post some pictures of it? Had to take the train of the track and unhook the motors. My camera is not that good at taking pictures in the dark, or of taking pictures of a moving object: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legoboy1a2 Posted January 7, 2013 Hi Cei, Actually, it is quite okay. I have been running the train for some while now and I have not noticed anything particular in regard to battery life. One motor pulling hard also drains the battery as it requires much more current to overcome the resistance. Probably not as much current as two motors running the same train, but I think the difference is much less than two. This is from the Lego website: The current consumption will depend heavily on the load it is driving. Under normal conditions it can be around 225 mA and we do not recommend a continuous use above 450 mA. So current consumption of one motor can double under heavy load. The current consumption of the lights is negligible compared to the motors. Kind regards, Teddy Had to take the train of the track and unhook the motors. My camera is not that good at taking pictures in the dark, or of taking pictures of a moving object: looks great but are the lights in the roof integrated? if so how do you take it of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy Posted January 7, 2013 looks great but are the lights in the roof integrated? if so how do you take it of? Thanks, the PF light are attached to the roof via these elements: also the brick attached to the lights is put into the roof. The PF cable is attached behind the entry doors. When lifting of the roof the cable is more than long enough to just lay the roof next to the rest of the carriage. Otherwise you can just easily unplug it. Kind regards, Teddy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc2dc Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Wow! Is this your layout? Yes and it’s quite the monster. IKEA tables are awesome though! I’m surprised people like our layout on these forums, I figured it would just be chump change compared to what most here have, especially with our layout having so many non custom buildings (although many are custom or modified). Edited January 8, 2013 by kc2dc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legoboy1a2 Posted January 8, 2013 does anybody know where they sell the horizon express in an area between san antonio and corpus christi texas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
English Electric Posted January 8, 2013 I don't know about the US but in the UK the set is only available via official Lego stores or on Lego shop at home. The nearest store to you appears to be in Austin, so maybe you could take a trip there. Alternatively, mail order from S@H shipping would be $13-18 depending on if you ordered 1 or 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OneDragon Posted January 10, 2013 @TheTunnelTurn. Love your video of adding power. Great to see your son doing the assembly. Well done guys. What was the name of your blog? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
