Help with headlight brick pattern

[tiammath]

Does someone know if it is possible, in LDD, to get rid of the little gap in the pattern below ? I tried using different tiles but it doesn't work.

Edited April 30, 2011 by tiammath

[Ralph_S]

Does someone know if it is possible, in LDD, to get rid of the little gap in the pattern below ? I tried using different tiles but it doesn't work.

Looking at it, I reckon it would be hard to get rid off full stop -not just in LDD!

Ralph

[Brickdoctor]

Looking at it, I reckon it would be hard to get rid off full stop -not just in LDD!

I agree. I'm not sure if a plate with rail would work there; I know a bar will slide into that hole, but you'll need some scaffolding to place it in LDD.

[Ralph_S]

I agree. I'm not sure if a plate with rail would work there; I know a bar will slide into that hole, but you'll need some scaffolding to place it in LDD.

A plate with door rail will probably work (it is 1 plate plus one plate's thickness wide), but will still leave a bit of a hole.

Cheers,

Ralph

[Calabar]

The problem with the plate with rail is that it is 2 stud long, while the model is 1 stud deep, I think.

[Brickdoctor]

The problem with the plate with rail is that it is 2 stud long, while the model is 1 stud deep, I think.

I'm pretty sure that if he wants to fill the gap and not go any deeper, there is nothing that will fit there.

[prateek]

A plate with door rail will probably work (it is 1 plate plus one plate's thickness wide), but will still leave a bit of a hole.

I tried it in LDD, but it won't work. It might work with real bricks, so I don't know...

[Brickdoctor]

I tried it in LDD, but it won't work. It might work with real bricks, so I don't know...

Just tried it for real, and I can't find the source of the problem, but the plate with rail is just a teeny bit too big for the space. With a little effort it will work, but you can tell that there is stress and a small gap. Edited April 30, 2011 by Brickdoctor

[Calabar]

I tried it in LDD, but it won't work. It might work with real bricks, so I don't know...

Ah...

I tried it too, and it works like a charm

[Brickdoctor]

Ah...

I tried it too, and it works like a charm

What?

Okay, I'm going to try it now.

[buddy]

Just tried it for real, and I can't find the source of the problem, but the plate with rail is just a teeny bit too big for the space. With a little effort it will work, but you can tell that there is stress and a small gap.

The source of the problem is that a plate with door rail is 1 and a half studs long and the piece needs to be 1 stud and 1 plate long. Basically, the plate with door rail is a quarter of a plate too big, half a stud is 1.25 plates long (1 stud is 2.5 plates, when here the gap is 1 plate long (1.25-1=0.25).

Hope I've helped.

~buddy~

Edited April 30, 2011 by buddy

[Calabar]

If it could be useful, here is the lxf file.

[Superkalle]

So what was the conclusion. Is it an illegal build or is there a brick bug in LDD?

(Calabar - I tried to open your LXF but it gave me the "1 brick could not be ...." and it was removed.)

EDIT: It is possible to fit 60897 to fill the hole in LDD, but it's an illegal build.

[Ralph_S]

The source of the problem is that a plate with door rail is 1 and a half studs long and the piece needs to be 1 stud and 1 plate long. Basically, the plate with door rail is a quarter of a plate too big, half a stud is 1.25 plates long (1 stud is 2.5 plates, when here the gap is 1 plate long (1.25-1=0.25).

Hope I've helped.

~buddy~

A plate with door rail is actually slightly narrower than 1.5 studs (put a jumper plate beneath one and you'll see that the jumper plate sticks out a fraction of a mm). I figured that instead was the equivalent of a plate plus a plate's thickness, as I wrote before, but I just measured it and found that this is not correct either. Its width lies between the two!

So, door rail won't fit without putting stress on the parts.

Cheers,

Ralph

[Brickdoctor]

Yeah, I just tried it myself, and the rail is just between the two measurements.

So I think the only thing that'll fill that hole is a bar.

[Calabar]

Calabar - I tried to open your LXF but it gave me the "1 brick could not be ...." and it was removed.

Oh, that's true!

I had no problem inserting it in the model, but reopening it the tile vanish.

LDD should decide if it is illegal or not!

However, here is a screenshot!

[tiammath]

Well, I intend to use the pattern as the floor of my new MOD, like this :

But I wasn't totally happy with the one in the image so I'm looking for other patterns I could use. What kind of bar could I use to fill the gap ?

[Brickdoctor]

What kind of bar could I use to fill the gap ?

Any standard-width bar. In LDD, some scaffolding will be necessary, and you can choose a bar based on how deep you're willing to go. Obviously the most colors are available with the common 4L bar, but there's also the 3L, 6L, and screwdriver.