LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[CloneCommando99]

44 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

The idea of Accolyte supposing breaking canon is a bit strange, the cast aren't writing the story anyway so that doesn't matter ( I mean what did did Alec Guinness know before being cast?) I mean it's nice when the cast are fans but it's not a requisite really is it?

I know that the actors don’t have creative input. But I just find it weird that they haven’t exactly done research into the lore that they’re going to be part of. Unlike say: Benedict Cumberbatch, Henry Cavill, Robert Downey Junior, Hayden Christensen… the list goes on and on. I know it’s not an issue but it just annoys my inner mega-nerd a lot that people can’t even research common knowledge. Your mention of Alec Guiness is fair. But he was playing an unprecedented character in an unprecedented movie. I just feel like if there you are joining an established franchise you should verse yourself in the common knowledge. (In this case the Movies)

I was just saying that since the Acolyte will take place 100 years before the Skywalker saga it can easily retcon things that are supposed to happen later in the timeline. For example: I’m worried that they won’t pay attention to the Sith being in hiding at the time, because we know there’s going to be a fight with all the Jedi. Including a child. Who Disney is obviously not going to kill. 

I’m sorry if I came off as the angry fan boy type. I just have concerns for potential impacts on canon that the slightest mistakes to detail could cause. And yes I realise that I may be over-sensitive on this topic.

Anywho. Enough on my silly little worries. Let’s get back to Lego discussion.

43 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I think Lego should drive their focus away from Disney + SW shows (Mando,Obi Wan and Ahsoka sets are amazing) and focus on the usual OT,PT,CW and maybe make some Legends sets if they can

Yes to Legends sets. But unfortunately I can’t see them shifting all the focus away.

43 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

A Minifigure scale Executor Star Destroyer  

Hol’ up. 

Edited June 4 by CloneCommando99

[Lego Nostalgia]

22 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

 

Hol’ up. 

I mean it's possible it can be done, like a regular ISD but the front is longer, it shouldn't be that hard to make it

Edited June 4 by Lego Nostalgia

[CloneCommando99]

8 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I mean it's possible it can be done, like a regular ISD but the front is longer, it shouldn't be that hard to make it

I thought you meant it was minifigure scale. As in ridiculously massive. And in scale with the Minifigure scale UCS AT AT.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

It annoys me that the people who are making it don't know anything about Star Wars, they want to erase canon and they are trying to remake Star Wars in they're view, plus it is clearly only being made to tick boxes and it's not made for SW fans, Lucasfilm hates it's fans (The OG ones) ''Anakin blew up the Death Star'' REALLY, I miss the days when Directors and Writers actually gave us good stories and cared about the lore, oh well.

With all the backlash it's getting which is 100% deserved, I can see why Lego wouldn't want to make a set from it, there's a reason we're not getting anymore  Sequel Trilogy sets, they simply don't sell and there's no demand for it, look at Hasbro, all these new Disney SW characters are pegwarmers still on shelves after years.

That guy’s an actor. Alec Guinness or Harrison Ford couldn’t have cared less about Star Wars, but they still had some phenomenal and important performances for the franchise. Not every actor needs to be the biggest Star Wars fan in the world. 
 

Also, from all of the interviews and what other people have said about her, it seems like Leslye Headland cares about the lore and obscure Star Wars details more than any other showrunner we’ve gotten, aside from Dave Filoni.

[BrickBob Studpants]

How is The Acolyte allegedly breaking canon? Because of what Ki-Adi Mundi says in TPM? Well, there are multiple ways this can easily be resolved. Either the characters who learn about the Sith's existence all die, they believe it's not a Sith (but instead a wannabe or a Knight of Ren or whatever), or they just cover it up, paving the way for the Jedi to ultimately lose their way.

How about we wait for the show to air before making baseless accusations? This is "OmG tHeY rEtCoNnEd ReBeLs By KiLliNg ThE gRaNd InQuIsItOr" all over again.

And about non-fans working on the show: Tony Gilroy, who made Andor, admitted he was not a fan of SW prior to working on Rogue One

Edited June 4 by BrickBob Studpants

[Mandalorianknight]

 

32 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

How is The Acolyte allegedly breaking canon? Because of what Ki-Adi Mundi says in TPM?

Or just sort of the wider lore thing about the sith having stayed in the shadows until Maul. Ki Adi Mundi's line isn't even the only TPM one about that.

The show itself doesn't break canon in premise, but the options are:

A: The entire main cast is killed or otherwise coerced into not reporting the sith to the council

B: It's not a sith, just a red lightsaber force wielder (Which technically stays in canon but... I really hate this approach because it's eeking out on a technicality.)

C: it breaks canon

 

It's the same issue people had with obi-wan in premise- while yes, it doesn't break canon just by the premise existing, it's not something that makes a lot of sense in-story, whether it's sith fighting jedi pre-TPM or Obi-Wan going off to other planets for a while when he was supposed to guard Luke. There are ways to get around it, like "oh it's to protect leia", but it's putting your show in a tough position to start out- and I wouldn't say Obi-wan was exactly a shining example of excellent star wars TV.

Regardless if you even agree with that, lego's had some poorly preforming sets for poorly preforming or just not child-engaging SW shows before, and with their already established caution around shows it makes total sense for them to wait on the Acolyte until they can see if it's popular with their target demos.

[ARC2149Nova]

25 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

 

Or just sort of the wider lore thing about the sith having stayed in the shadows until Maul. Ki Adi Mundi's line isn't even the only TPM one about that.

The show itself doesn't break canon in premise, but the options are:

A: The entire main cast is killed or otherwise coerced into not reporting the sith to the council

B: It's not a sith, just a red lightsaber force wielder (Which technically stays in canon but... I really hate this approach because it's eeking out on a technicality.)

C: it breaks canon

 

It's the same issue people had with obi-wan in premise- while yes, it doesn't break canon just by the premise existing, it's not something that makes a lot of sense in-story, whether it's sith fighting jedi pre-TPM or Obi-Wan going off to other planets for a while when he was supposed to guard Luke. There are ways to get around it, like "oh it's to protect leia", but it's putting your show in a tough position to start out- and I wouldn't say Obi-wan was exactly a shining example of excellent star wars TV.

Regardless if you even agree with that, lego's had some poorly preforming sets for poorly preforming or just not child-engaging SW shows before, and with their already established caution around shows it makes total sense for them to wait on the Acolyte until they can see if it's popular with their target demos.

Without venturing too far into this debate...

everything you just said is straight facts.

I honestly couldn't care less about any new Star Wars media, Skeleton Crew seems like it'll be a waste of time, the Acolyte has been cracking apart since it's announcement, and the only thing that may be worth watching (Andor 2) isn't coming out until 2025 (or later). Not to mention things like Tales, who focused on two characters, one of whom they waited far too long for anyone to care, and another who was never that interesting to begin with. And neither of them really had anything to do with The Empire. The Dark Side, sure, but the Empire is far more than just Inquisitors and collaborators.

I'm not the only person who feels this way, whether I'm in the super minority or a silent majority, there is an undeniable increase in apathy towards Star Wars content, hence why Lego is hedging its bets on things with more certain return, or a project that seems to have less negative energy around it (Skeleton Crew), I doubt we'll be seeing anymore Obi-Wan sets, for instance. Ahsoka and Mando S3, despite their flaws, held enough of their audience to warrant a second wave of sets (or in Mando's case, several waves of sets).

[ginja]

This thing I haven't seen has ruined everything.

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Or just sort of the wider lore thing about the sith having stayed in the shadows until Maul. Ki Adi Mundi's line isn't even the only TPM one about that.

1 hour ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Without venturing too far into this debate...

everything you just said is straight facts.

Thank you!! This is frankly what I’ve been trying to say. I’m just concerned about how easy they could potentially make a major continuity mistake. I am still excited to watch the Acolyte though, it’ll be interesting to learn about the High Republic through a piece of on-screen content that isn’t Jedi Survivor. And I know I may have come off as a bit over sensitive when I was stating my views earlier. But you guys have thankfully just said what I was trying to say in far better words than mine. 

Now let’s get back to Lego topics. Any last predictions for the Coughing Baby (Young Leia) set? Or are we still going off the assumption that it’s an ewok until proven otherwise.
 

Edited June 4 by CloneCommando99

[Agent Kallus]

8 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Now let’s get back to Lego topics. Any last predictions for the Coughing Baby (Young Leia) set? Or are we still going off the assumption that it’s an ewok until proven otherwise.
 

Personally no. I still think an Ewok would be a buildable character not a buildable creature.

[Classic_Spaceman]

4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Either the characters who learn about the Sith's existence all die, they believe it's not a Sith (but instead a wannabe or a Knight of Ren or whatever), or they just cover it up, paving the way for the Jedi to ultimately lose their way.

I suspect that we will get some combination of these options, since all make sense; another possibility is that Dark Acolytes are in play (fitting, given the show’s name).
Additionally, there is actually an inconsistency in TPM with regard to the Sith - Yoda says that the Sith are only ever two (a master and an apprentice), but Darth Bane instituted the Rule of Two after the supposed extinction of the Sith “nearly a millennium” before Ki-Adi-Mundi’s statement. I can see The Acolyte actually correcting this issue by having (for example) the current Sith apprentice take an apprentice of their own (a Dark Acolyte); the Jedi uncover a plot to reestablish the Sith Order, along with information about the Rule of Two, then eventually defeat the two known wannabe Sith. From here, the current Sith master takes another apprentice and continues their machinations more carefully. 
 

[Mandalorianknight]

39 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I suspect that we will get some combination of these options, since all make sense; another possibility is that Dark Acolytes are in play (fitting, given the show’s name).
Additionally, there is actually an inconsistency in TPM with regard to the Sith - Yoda says that the Sith are only ever two (a master and an apprentice), but Darth Bane instituted the Rule of Two after the supposed extinction of the Sith “nearly a millennium” before Ki-Adi-Mundi’s statement. I can see The Acolyte actually correcting this issue by having (for example) the current Sith apprentice take an apprentice of their own (a Dark Acolyte); the Jedi uncover a plot to reestablish the Sith Order, along with information about the Rule of Two, then eventually defeat the two known wannabe Sith. From here, the current Sith master takes another apprentice and continues their machinations more carefully. 
 

I dunno, I feel like "the jedi at some point hear legends about the rule of two" was kind of implied, where the bigger plot hole would be if they find and kill who they believe to be the master and apprentice a few decades before TPM, because then why are they going "the sith have been extinct for a millennia", when they think they killed them a half-century ago.

[Classic_Spaceman]

6 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I dunno, I feel like "the jedi at some point hear legends about the rule of two" was kind of implied, where the bigger plot hole would be if they find and kill who they believe to be the master and apprentice a few decades before TPM, because then why are they going "the sith have been extinct for a millennia", when they think they killed them a half-century ago.

Either the Jedi think that they killed a pair of Dark Siders only claiming to be trying to restart the Sith, or they cover the event up to prevent panic/the Republic losing faith in them (and after all, if both master and apprentice were killed, what reason would there be to worry people about a possible-but-thwarted Sith uprising?). 
 

[Lego Nostalgia]

6 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I thought you meant it was minifigure scale. As in ridiculously massive. And in scale with the Minifigure scale UCS AT AT.

I meant like play scale like the new ISD in August

4 hours ago, Agent Kallus said:

Personally no. I still think an Ewok would be a buildable character not a buildable creature.

It's June and we still don't know anything about that set, HOW !?!? Perhaps it's not actually a buildable creature since leakers thought the ISD was a Death Star lol

4 hours ago, ginja said:

This thing I haven't seen has ruined everything.

You don't need to watch something to know it'll be bad/flop, Trailers pretty much confirm that or leaks 

I'd love for the January 2025 wave to be good but it'll probably just be a 4+ set, a battle pack and a polybag

[Kit Figsto]

18 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

The acolyte is the first show that doesn’t revolve around a legacy character that general audiences would know.

That’s not entirely true.  Mandalorian didn’t have any legacy characters in its first season, and that was arguably the height of the show’s popularity.  Bad Batch had characters that were in Clone Wars, but I’d hardly call them legacy characters when they were introduced like a year before, only appeared in like four episodes, and the prevailing sentiment online seemed to be “why are these guys getting a spin-off show, that’s dumb.”  Rebels also barely used legacy characters other than a handful of episodes here and there.

If we want to go way back, look up what people thought about Ahsoka when the first Clone Wars movie/season came out.

[CloneCommando99]

I was rewatching the RTG trailer and I noticed that Anakin’s wearing his TCW armour. It probably isn’t, but could this be a tease for a new General Skywalker figure?

 

[Agent Kallus]

A new figure has leaked from the skeleton crew set. Looks like the love child of Max Redo and Greeata Jendowanian.

[CloneCommando99]

Just now, Agent Kallus said:

A new figure has leaked from the skeleton crew set. Looks like the love child of Max Redo and Greeata Jendowanian.

So it does exist! Contrary to @Lego Nostalgia’s beliefs.

[starlego98]

44 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I was rewatching the RTG trailer and I noticed that Anakin’s wearing his TCW armour. It probably isn’t, but could this be a tease for a new General Skywalker figure?


 

It's from a 2018 set, they remade Anakin from the clone wars

[Lego Nostalgia]

42 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

So it does exist! Contrary to @Lego Nostalgia’s beliefs.

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[CloneCommando99]

10 minutes ago, starlego98 said:

It's from a 2018 set, they remade Anakin from the clone wars

Ah. Ok thank you. My mistake.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Cool minifig!  That likely means the SC set comes out in August, rather than October or so.

Hope the set includes all main characters!

[CloneCommando99]

Max Rebo Jr looks good but a bit creepy. I wonder if they’ll use the same mould in the sail barge.

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

Not a fan of the four-limbed Ortolan, but as long as we leave my boy Max with two limbs this is fine. Could be a sister species or something like that (I know that’s not how evolution works, but Star Wars has never remotely made sense from an evolutionary perspective). Figure looks good for what it’s representing though.

15 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Max Rebo Jr looks good but a bit creepy. I wonder if they’ll use the same mould in the sail barge.

While the shaping of the snout looks awful for Max Rebo and it would be a tragedy if they used it, there’s no way they can justify giving him a mould that has hair on it.

[Yperio_Bricks]

28 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

Max Rebo Jr looks good but a bit creepy. I wonder if they’ll use the same mould in the sail barge.

Would Lego design two molds of the same species at the same time?