Bricks and Minifigs Situation...

[Darth_Bane13]

9 hours ago, SpacePolice89 said:

I find it totally unbelievable that some people even try to defend B&M and say things that there is always two sides to a story when we have solid proof that the owners have been lying and that the Mormon cops are corrupt. What they are doing is criminal in several ways. Some of the tactics used by Reckless Ben are maybe not the most ideal ones but at least he's doing something. 

Yeah it's really weird some people here are acting like Ben is just as bad as B&M. They want to blame the other B&M stores being harassed as Reckless Bens fault even though Ben explicitly told people not to harass random B&M stores.

Just now, danth said:

I think @TeddytheSpoon is saying Ben comes out looking the least scummy. 

And @Darth_Bane13 interpreted "comes out the best" as "getting the most benefit" and pointing out that Ben didn't seem to benefit at all. 

Yes precisely, I misinterpreted it. I agree with @TeddytheSpoon in that case.

[Shiva]

8 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah it's really weird some people here are acting like Ben is just as bad as B&M. They want to blame the other B&M stores being harassed as Reckless Bens fault even though Ben explicitly told people not to harass random B&M stores.

Very possible that people have skipped or ignored the "not to harass random B&M stores." Or even not seen those parts of his videos.

[Darth_Bane13]

11 minutes ago, Shiva said:

Very possible that people have skipped or ignored the "not to harass random B&M stores." Or even not seen those parts of his videos.

So was he just supposed to not bring any attention to the matter because some hoopleheads decided to harass random stores? The fault lies in B&M corporate for handling the situation poorly, every step of the way, the CEO is literally a mustache twirling villain.

[Shiva]

2 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

So was he just supposed to not bring any attention to the matter because some hoopleheads decided to harass random stores? The fault lies in B&M corporate for handling the situation poorly, every step of the way, the CEO is literally a mustache twirling villain.

So Law-Gorman, etc, are blameless, according to you? or, you just skipped mentioning them.

And, you, sort of prove my point with that above text of yours.

[JesseNight]

That's why it's complex case and not so black & white as to just blame B&M Corporate and be done with it. They'll just point fingers to someone else and unless you have solid evidence who has your property, you won't be getting anywhere in a lawsuit. I'm not familiar enough with this kinda business structure and I don't know how much liability is with B&M Corporate for the actions of their independent franchisees. It's easy to say they work for B&M and B&M should fix this, but that's not how things work in the legal system.

And when it finally gets to court... Anything you've said or done can and will be used against you by the opponent. And that's where Ben may run into trouble with his past shenanigans. Because a judge will not just laugh it off.

Edited June 17 by JesseNight

[SpacePolice89]

6 hours ago, JesseNight said:

Because the case in its entirety is more complex than that. The business model, the franchisees, and who even has the LEGO in the end? A lawsuit only works out if you know who is guilty and serve the right person with the right accusations (and evidence obviously). If nobody knows where the LEGO is, and franchisees, ex-franchisees, and overlapping B&M Corporate all start pointing fingers at each other it becomes a difficult story. Wish it were simpler... (ftr I'm not defending B&M but also not blindly pointing at one single party)

How the management and the cops are reacting (evidence on video) clearly shows that they are responsible for some seriously bad stuff. I agree that the other parties have also made some not so good choices but that's nothing compared to what they did and are still doing.  

[Darth_Bane13]

3 hours ago, Shiva said:

So Law-Gorman, etc, are blameless, according to you? or, you just skipped mentioning them.

And, you, sort of prove my point with that above text of yours.

Why is it when I talk about B&M corporate, you immediately bring up someone else involved in the situation to deflect? Law-Gorman aren't blameless but it shouldn't have affected how B&M corporate treated this whole situation.

It's literally just common sense not to harass random B&M stores. You shouldn't need someone to tell you not to start punching people in your local B&M. All these harassment incidents are on B&M corporate at the end of the day.

While B&M corporate may not solely be at fault for all the missing Lego, they are certainly a large part responsible. What B&M corporate (Ammon, Joshua Johnson, Brandon Best) should have done was work with Ben and Bryan to get his Lego back. They did infact have a lot of his stock, I believe Coffeezilla said around $20,000 of Bryans Lego was in the store when they took over. Of course, their intention was never to give the Lego back, that's why they called the cops instead. 

[JesseNight]

5 hours ago, SpacePolice89 said:

How the management and the cops are reacting (evidence on video) clearly shows that they are responsible for some seriously bad stuff. I agree that the other parties have also made some not so good choices but that's nothing compared to what they did and are still doing.  

Yeah, how the police handled the situation and refused to serve the man after verifying the case being real was bad. Probably a case on its own.

[anothergol]

I think that temporary "harassment" is the least of the problems for BAM franchisees. The name, pretty much the only thing they're paying for, is done. And if people (well, americans) boycott BAM (which would be the right thing to do and is not "harassment"), they're done. If I was owning such a store, atm my priority would be to find a way to get out of the franchise and continue my business under another name (which their contract probably forbids).

And it's not because yeah, they would be fine if Ben hadn't done anything (which sounds like Scoobydoo's "if it weren't for you meddling kids"), that it's HIS FAULT. He just pointed his finger at it. At more than what he was hoping for, actually (thinking of the corrupt police).

[JesseNight]

The thing is many of the franchisees and employees are just victims in the matter too. If the Mansells get their LEGO back or a fair compensation, that's good. If Ben stays out of jail, that's good too. But the spotlight is only on these 2 parties and B&M Corporate and the directly involved franchisees with this particular takeover. But the problem for all other franchisees and employees won't be ending there, they suffer in silence and may be paying a price that remains uncompensated (losing their business, losing their jobs).

[anothergol]

1 hour ago, JesseNight said:

But the spotlight is only on these 2 parties

The spotlight is on more than 2 parties (Ben, the Mansell, the Goreman, the BAM guys, and the police), and it also is on the other BAM franchisees. Some are previous victims, some are current victims, but some are crooks as well and had been exposed a month before the whole story caught fire. I'm talking about the chrome gold C3PO story. 

[Trekkie99]

On 6/16/2026 at 10:28 PM, danth said:

And now the video I've been waiting for.

 

That's insane 

[Darth_Bane13]

Part 3!

[JesseNight]

Here we go again, still about "$200k worth of LEGO" which was already proven to be inaccurate.
Don't get me wrong, I want the right thing to happen and any evildoers to be punished. But it keeps getting fueled by false information.

[Murdoch17]

12 hours ago, JesseNight said:

Here we go again, still about "$200k worth of LEGO" which was already proven to be inaccurate.
Don't get me wrong, I want the right thing to happen and any evildoers to be punished. But it keeps getting fueled by false information.

Yep, agreed.

[Darth_Bane13]

14 hours ago, JesseNight said:

Here we go again, still about "$200k worth of LEGO" which was already proven to be inaccurate.
Don't get me wrong, I want the right thing to happen and any evildoers to be punished. But it keeps getting fueled by false information.

Yeah he probably should've clarified the correct amount here.