BrickBob Studpants Posted Thursday at 03:51 PM Posted Thursday at 03:51 PM 1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said: 2007 AT-ST playset was peak More like reek Every set has its fans and you can‘t really argue about taste, but to me that was a blocky monstrosity Out of the ROTJ versions, the 2009 one‘s where it‘s at! Quote
Zap Rowsdower Posted Thursday at 04:34 PM Posted Thursday at 04:34 PM 9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: …excellent point, never even thought about it! It’s never been clearly explained whether the Final Order / Sith Eternal was cut off from the rest of the galaxy or if some FO members were in contact with them. The prominent FO characters definitely weren‘t as the existence of the Sith Eternal was a surprise to all of them. Minimal or no contact would explain why they use older designs, like the xyston-class SDs being based on the Imperial rather than the FO version. In that case, FO TIE pilots don‘t make sense unless the TIE Daggers were only manned once the First and Final Orders joined forces. …but then again, both Jumptrooper versions look identical apart from the colour. That one is trickier to explain since the helmet and armour follow FO rather than Imperial design conventions and thus can‘t be explained away by being based on old discarded Imperial designs That‘s the least of TROS‘ issues, but I still wish they thought through things a bit more. JJ gonna JJ! Pryde seemed to have some contact in Shadows of the Sith, at least with the dark side cultists on Exogal. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM Posted Thursday at 04:46 PM (edited) 11 minutes ago, Zap Rowsdower said: Pryde seemed to have some contact in Shadows of the Sith, at least with the dark side cultists on Exogal. Interesting! His knowledge still must be limited though, since we see him pledging his allegiance to Palpy in the movie, plus he doesn‘t seem to know about the fleet (or its size at least) before the events of the movie ^^ There‘s still a lot that needs to be fleshed out! Edited Thursday at 04:46 PM by BrickBob Studpants Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: More like reek Every set has its fans and you can‘t really argue about taste, but to me that was a blocky monstrosity Out of the ROTJ versions, the 2009 one‘s where it‘s at! I do agree the 2009 one is the best but I don't own it. I still think 2007 is the best individual AT-ST set though because it's not oversized and the face is more accurate than the newer ones, it was also only $20. that era of LSW just has aura. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted Thursday at 07:00 PM Posted Thursday at 07:00 PM (edited) I mean, guys, come on, how is nobody talking about the 2016 one? It might be oversized, but it's the best it's ever looked. The entire rogue one wave had the designers operating in top form. 11 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: …excellent point, never even thought about it! It’s never been clearly explained whether the Final Order / Sith Eternal was cut off from the rest of the galaxy or if some FO members were in contact with them. The prominent FO characters definitely weren‘t as the existence of the Sith Eternal was a surprise to all of them. Minimal or no contact would explain why they use older designs, like the xyston-class SDs being based on the Imperial rather than the FO version. In that case, FO TIE pilots don‘t make sense unless the TIE Daggers were only manned once the First and Final Orders joined forces. …but then again, both Jumptrooper versions look identical apart from the colour. That one is trickier to explain since the helmet and armour follow FO rather than Imperial design conventions and thus can‘t be explained away by being based on old discarded Imperial designs That‘s the least of TROS‘ issues, but I still wish they thought through things a bit more. JJ gonna JJ! The only people in contact were the graphic designers. Palpatine left explicit instructions in operation cinder for them to not tell anyone else, because he wanted to keep the surprise but knew it was extremely important that the Final Order was immediately identifiable as just the First Order with red. (This is actually what the terms mean. First Order was rushed so they only sent out the EP1s that hadn't had paint yet, whereas by the 2nd- and final- order they had the paint ready.) 10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Oh. That actually looks like an awesome combination of the Lucrehulk, SSD and Venator. And would have been symbolic of how this is the culmination of all of Palpatine’s efforts by taking design cues from all the factions he had previously used. That would be a great symbolic element, unfortunately all we got was a B1 and a hyperspace-capable imperial TIE. 6 hours ago, Tariq j said: I’m going to say Secret. I did really like the TIE Crawler Lego released ages ago. I do wish we got more of those random EU pulls. 6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: There are still way too many holes in the timeline of events, and now The Acolyte created even more of them with the reveal that Qimir is the founder of the Knights of Ren. Aw, man, even I didn't know this one. Are they just having a guy from the story group come in and throw random sequel terms into these shows? Edited Thursday at 07:02 PM by Mandalorianknight Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM 52 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: Aw, man, even I didn't know this one. Are they just having a guy from the story group come in and throw random sequel terms into these shows? It was „confirmed“ in a recent art book, like a couple of days ago I say „confirmed“ because it was described like Qimir „was going to be“ the founder, which more sounds like a plan they had for further seasons, rather than it actually being canon now. Wookieepedia hasn‘t updated their pages accordingly, for instance. The idea was to explain how a group of darksiders could continue outside of the rule of two since there obviously wasn‘t that much wiggle room in the line of succession between Qimir/Osha and Palpy, given Plagueis was already around. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted Friday at 01:21 AM Posted Friday at 01:21 AM 6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I mean, guys, come on, how is nobody talking about the 2016 one? It might be oversized, but it's the best it's ever looked. The entire rogue one wave had the designers operating in top form. 2016 just looks off to me, maybe the weakest R1 set. It's still better than the OG one from 2001 though. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted Friday at 01:46 AM Posted Friday at 01:46 AM 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: It was „confirmed“ in a recent art book, like a couple of days ago I say „confirmed“ because it was described like Qimir „was going to be“ the founder, which more sounds like a plan they had for further seasons, rather than it actually being canon now. Wookieepedia hasn‘t updated their pages accordingly, for instance. The idea was to explain how a group of darksiders could continue outside of the rule of two since there obviously wasn‘t that much wiggle room in the line of succession between Qimir/Osha and Palpy, given Plagueis was already around. Glad they axed that, I always preferred the idea that they were a fringe group Kylo recently brought about. Their role in the galactic civil war is weird enough to me, the idea that they existed for like two hundred years alongside the jedi order and the Jedi were just like "yeah sure whatever" just doesn't sit right with me. The dark side clouds everything and whatnot, but that would be a new level- the KoR weren't exactly the masters at hiding the Sith were. 19 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: 2016 just looks off to me, maybe the weakest R1 set. It's still better than the OG one from 2001 though. "Weakest R1 set" is like saying "Weakest world champion weightlifter", at least for that initial wave of sets, but I guess I agree just on the line that the other four are such absolute masterclasses at representing their vehicles that the AT-ST, which is merely excellent rather than perfect, lags behind. Still, though, it was the first system-scale one to get the head geometry even close to correct, rather than the blocky look of it's predecessors. It still requires improvement and downsizing, but I think it was the best we got. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted Friday at 02:18 AM Posted Friday at 02:18 AM 23 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: "Weakest R1 set" is like saying "Weakest world champion weightlifter", at least for that initial wave of sets, but I guess I agree just on the line that the other four are such absolute masterclasses at representing their vehicles that the AT-ST, which is merely excellent rather than perfect, lags behind. Still, though, it was the first system-scale one to get the head geometry even close to correct, rather than the blocky look of it's predecessors. It still requires improvement and downsizing, but I think it was the best we got. I think it was a clear downgrade from 2009 AT-ST the face should be sloped not flat like the 2016 set. 2009 was also technic/plates and not blocky at all. I did actually get the R1 AT-ST back in the day and I always thought it was mid, decent for display I guess. I just dislike when sets are oversized it feels like a waste of space and money. I'm not big on the Tie striker from that wave either but the other 3 sets are peak. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted Friday at 11:17 AM Posted Friday at 11:17 AM Happy Halloween. Perhaps if I farm XP from the mobs tonight, I’ll have enough to unlock the Lego Tie Avenger. (Day #190) It honestly saddens me that it looks increasingly like we won’t get Rogue One 10th Anniversary or Zero Company sets next year. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Friday at 01:01 PM Posted Friday at 01:01 PM 1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said: It honestly saddens me that it looks increasingly like we won’t get Rogue One 10th Anniversary or Zero Company sets next year. If all TFA gets for its anniversary are a midi-scale set and a helmet, and all ROTS gets are a BrickHeadz 5-pack and two playsets (plus mayyyybe the microfighter), what chance would RO stand? I certainly wouldn‘t mind a small wave of RO sets, but that itch has mostly been scratched with Saw and Galen showing up in sets, as well as the recent U-Wing. Fingers crossed for a BrickHeadz set at the very least! K2 in particular would be a riot Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted Friday at 02:08 PM Posted Friday at 02:08 PM 12 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Glad they axed that, I always preferred the idea that they were a fringe group Kylo recently brought about. Their role in the galactic civil war is weird enough to me, the idea that they existed for like two hundred years alongside the jedi order and the Jedi were just like "yeah sure whatever" just doesn't sit right with me. The dark side clouds everything and whatnot, but that would be a new level- the KoR weren't exactly the masters at hiding the Sith were. I like that Lucasfilm realised they wanted to have edgy evil jedi characters for almost every project they do but Lucas locked them into only having like 4-5 options across the 30-ish years of the original 6 films so they invented two separate groups of sith in everything but name made up of entirely complete jobbers Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Friday at 03:16 PM Posted Friday at 03:16 PM 57 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: […] so they invented two separate groups of sith in everything but name made up of entirely complete jobbers Honestly, I like that approach. The Inquisitorius is a useful group of antagonists in particular since they‘re kept weaker than the Sith on purpose (both in- and out-of-universe), yet are still a credible threat to a lot of our protagonists in that era. You can‘t have Vader show up every time and let the heroes survive each encounter Same reason Ventress was created, I suppose, to avoid constant encounters with Dooku. And since they‘re essentially cannon fodder, the writers can also kill them whenever they want! It‘s annoying to me to have duels and battles where you know that all involved will survive. Maul teaming up with Ezra and co, surprisingly killing the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother, only to then turn on the protagonists will always be one of the coolest moments in SW animation to me. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted Friday at 05:03 PM Posted Friday at 05:03 PM 5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: It honestly saddens me that it looks increasingly like we won’t get Rogue One 10th Anniversary or Zero Company sets next year. LEGO: Best I can do is more 18+ sets and smart bricks. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted Friday at 09:31 PM Posted Friday at 09:31 PM 7 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: I like that Lucasfilm realised they wanted to have edgy evil jedi characters for almost every project they do but Lucas locked them into only having like 4-5 options across the 30-ish years of the original 6 films so they invented two separate groups of sith in everything but name made up of entirely complete jobbers I don't mind the inquisitors, because they existed in an era where the sith were the ones in power, they tended to be weaker in the force and more reliant on numbers and tech, and because they made sense in the lore. (Your average padawan is going to be pretty good at evading stormtroopers, but you can't have Vader personally respond to every force-user in the galaxy, so the inquisitors are a good in-between as low-level dark jedi.) I also did like the Dark Jedi concept from legends, something that Baylan and Shin seem to embody- you don't have to be a Sith Lord or beholden to their ideology to be an antagonist force-wielder. You can just be a jedi who goes crazy like C'boath, or isn't beholden to the order/republic/whatever like Baylan and Shin. 9 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Happy Halloween. Perhaps if I farm XP from the mobs tonight, I’ll have enough to unlock the Lego Tie Avenger. (Day #190) It honestly saddens me that it looks increasingly like we won’t get Rogue One 10th Anniversary or Zero Company sets next year. Don't fall for it, those aren't real zombies! There's a reason they're all so short! I think we'll get some form of recognition for Rogue one, even if it's just an 18+ gimmick or something, but unfortunately Zero Company is unlikely. It's not impossible, I could see the ship popping up in the august wave, but lego really tends to steer clear from even proven-success games like the Fallen order series. I don't see them taking a risk on Zero Company, even if the design process for the game seemed to be rivals-style "how cool can we make the characters look" and it includes one of lego's favorite character type. 5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Honestly, I like that approach. The Inquisitorius is a useful group of antagonists in particular since they‘re kept weaker than the Sith on purpose (both in- and out-of-universe), yet are still a credible threat to a lot of our protagonists in that era. You can‘t have Vader show up every time and let the heroes survive each encounter Same reason Ventress was created, I suppose, to avoid constant encounters with Dooku. And since they‘re essentially cannon fodder, the writers can also kill them whenever they want! It‘s annoying to me to have duels and battles where you know that all involved will survive. Maul teaming up with Ezra and co, surprisingly killing the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother, only to then turn on the protagonists will always be one of the coolest moments in SW animation to me. Yup. Things like the Inquisitors or Ventress don't bother me as much, it's the idea that Kylo's gang has been around for centuries that annoys me because rather than just a single dark side apprentice or a group created by the dominant sith of the era, it's just a gang of not exceedingly smart or strong dark siders that the jedi totally failed to notice for centuries and Palpatine never bothered to wipe out or recruit even when they actively fought against him. 18 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I think it was a clear downgrade from 2009 AT-ST the face should be sloped not flat like the 2016 set. 2009 was also technic/plates and not blocky at all. I did actually get the R1 AT-ST back in the day and I always thought it was mid, decent for display I guess. I just dislike when sets are oversized it feels like a waste of space and money. I'm not big on the Tie striker from that wave either but the other 3 sets are peak. The face is flat on the 2009 one as well. While it wasn't as blocky as the 2007 one, it also has some issues the 2016 one doesn't, such as some pretty rough feet, an inability to pose the legs, and a fully DBG roof that leads to some really strange color-blocking. I agree that the 2016 one is too large, though. (However, while you could say waste of money in terms of the AT-ST didn't need to be big enough to cost $40 in 2016 dollars, I would say the set we got was good value for money.) Quote
Samppu Posted Friday at 11:50 PM Posted Friday at 11:50 PM (edited) On 10/28/2025 at 8:07 AM, Llewop said: but I admire the way HP goes about combining the sets to create a big castle. The one place where this would work probably the best in Star Wars would be Coruscant. You could do almost dozens of great sets of the nature: A big set (100 to 200 €/$): a building akin to a modular building, though with some key differences: Taller towers but no backwalls, which is a good compromise as it enables higher buildings for the same price while also enabling better playability. The street level would be microscale city scape and the actual minifigure street would be one level higher akin to the streets in Ninjago modular buildings. This cheap yet efficient optical illusion would better feel like the minifigures were actually living high above the visible ground of the megapolis. Some compromises would need to be done, like locations being allocated to the same tower building even if they were not intended to be in the same building in-universe. However, this is no different from what Harry Potter is doing. The sets as a whole could be combined in similar style as in HP. Tall buildings physically separated from each other but as a whole creating the feeling of the towering heights of a megapolis in which you use an air speeder to travel from one tower to another. A medium set (50 or so): a flat compatible with the big sets so that you could just add another floor in between like a ham into a sandwich. Small set (10 to 20): a speeder or a battle pack focusing on alien folks Just to get your imagination running: A Coruscant tower with three locations (big set): Basement level: Coruscant underworld club Street level: Dexter's coffee Level 3: Padme's apartment Andor's and Bix's hideout apartment on Coruscant (medium set) You could add this to the Coruscant tower set as another floor. Luthen's gallery with a landing platform (medium set) You could add this to the Coruscant tower set as another floor. Anakin's and Zam Wesel's speeder (small sets). They would fit to land on the roof or some small landing platform of the big Coruscant tower set. Mon Mothma's air speeder (small set). Would fit on the gallery's platform. Some more: The senate (a big set) Half of the mushroom showing exterior, interior being a couple of senate podiums in the rotunda and the rest being squeezed podiums to create an optical illusion of depth (4 x 4 podium with microfigures and at the very bottom 2 x 2 podiums). The chairman's tower could be lifted with a mechanism. In addition to the rotunda, it would include a small hallway area from the door to the two openings to different podiums. The front yard would be a small section of street/bridge over micro scaled city. Chancellor's office (medium set) You could stack this under the Senate set. The medical bay for Darth Vader's transformation (medium set) You could stack this as another level at the bottom of the Senate set. Bail Organa's speeder (small set) Could stick with a Technic axle to flow under the Senate mushroom so that Yoda could jump into it from a hatch in the Senate set. Edited Friday at 11:52 PM by Samppu Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted yesterday at 01:55 AM Posted yesterday at 01:55 AM 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: The face is flat on the 2009 one as well. While it wasn't as blocky as the 2007 one, it also has some issues the 2016 one doesn't, such as some pretty rough feet, an inability to pose the legs, and a fully DBG roof that leads to some really strange color-blocking. I agree that the 2016 one is too large, though. (However, while you could say waste of money in terms of the AT-ST didn't need to be big enough to cost $40 in 2016 dollars, I would say the set we got was good value for money.) We need an AT-ST with the size of the 09 one with the detail of the 2016 one. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Don't fall for it, those aren't real zombies! There's a reason they're all so short! Oh I know. The amount of loot I got from the Chicken Jockeys was insane. All for a good cause (Day #191 of the Tie Avenger tombola) Though now that she has defrosted, I can to resort to the dark forces if needs be. So Marvel gets a Ghostrider Bike with 2 minifigs (one of which is brand new) while we’re getting 1.5 pre existing minifigs in the Mando’s speeder? I hope this is just an outlier. An AT RT or Imperial Speeder with 2 Minifigs would be great. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: So Marvel gets a Ghostrider Bike with 2 minifigs (one of which is brand new) while we’re getting 1.5 pre existing minifigs in the Mando’s speeder? Doesn‘t matter. The important part is that non-gimmick $10 sets are back on the menu, boys! Quote
CallumPears Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 19 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: The face is flat on the 2009 one as well. While it wasn't as blocky as the 2007 one, it also has some issues the 2016 one doesn't, such as some pretty rough feet, an inability to pose the legs, and a fully DBG roof that leads to some really strange color-blocking. I agree that the 2016 one is too large, though. (However, while you could say waste of money in terms of the AT-ST didn't need to be big enough to cost $40 in 2016 dollars, I would say the set we got was good value for money.) My issue with the Rogue One AT-ST, apart from being very oversized, is that the face has those gaps at each side which just don't look good to me at all and the head as a whole looks very blocky, compared with the slimmer and more complete look of the 2009 one. It also has less posability in the legs (you can move them backwards but that isn't exactly what I'm looking for). Sure it's similar in that the 2009 one also can't really be held in a walking pose, but at least the legs can move a lot more on that older version. Also it was £45 here which didn't help my views on it at the time. Set descriptions are out for Cobb Vanth's speeder and Mando's speeder. I guess it confirms that the build for the Vanth vs Bane set is his podracer engine speeder bike from Mando season 2 ep1, and that there are no other figures in the set. It also mentions a Bantha milk carton- I wonder whether this will be a reuse from the Skywalker Saga Luke polybag or just an unprinted one like we saw in Obi-Wan's Hut a few years ago. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 16 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: We need an AT-ST with the size of the 09 one with the detail of the 2016 one. Seconded, a smaller at-st is better (more accurate) and the detail can be there. I would love a new one. despite being oversized I did like the hoth one although it is a different model. 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Doesn‘t matter. The important part is that non-gimmick $10 sets are back on the menu, boys! So good, these have been missing for so many themes for so long. I can’t wait till we get some generic trooper versions down the road. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said: So good, these have been missing for so many themes for so long. I can’t wait till we get some generic trooper versions down the road. Yeah, impulse sets are vital to the health of a play theme 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Doesn‘t matter. The important part is that non-gimmick $10 sets are back on the menu, boys! Would love for them to become more common, might be a good price range for some Separatist or Rebel sets. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 11 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Oh I know. The amount of loot I got from the Chicken Jockeys was insane. Though now that she has defrosted, I can to resort to the dark forces if needs be. So Marvel gets a Ghostrider Bike with 2 minifigs (one of which is brand new) while we’re getting 1.5 pre existing minifigs in the Mando’s speeder? I hope this is just an outlier. An AT RT or Imperial Speeder with 2 Minifigs would be great. You know what, the Chicken Jockeys are justified, that's preemptive self-defense for any theatre employees nearby I envy you that she only defrosts in November in the UK. We've been hearing her since mid-september over here in some stores. I don't think it's as concerning as those two specific sets would lead you to believe. They're trying to make this $10 price point work, and choosing a set with the unequivocally two most popular characters of the disney era is a smart move. I'm confident we'll see new figures in later sets, star wars tends to have a much higher budget than superheroes. It's just that for this particular set, there wasn't much of a reason to make new prints. 17 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: We need an AT-ST with the size of the 09 one with the detail of the 2016 one. Completely agree. A sloped front, too. It should be possible with 2025 techniques to incorporate the 2016 model's detail onto something the size of the 2009 one. 3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Doesn‘t matter. The important part is that non-gimmick $10 sets are back on the menu, boys! Exactly. 1 hour ago, CallumPears said: Set descriptions are out for Cobb Vanth's speeder and Mando's speeder. I guess it confirms that the build for the Vanth vs Bane set is his podracer engine speeder bike from Mando season 2 ep1, and that there are no other figures in the set. It also mentions a Bantha milk carton- I wonder whether this will be a reuse from the Skywalker Saga Luke polybag or just an unprinted one like we saw in Obi-Wan's Hut a few years ago. Cobb's speeder is either going to be extremely, laughably overpriced or just hilariously large for how big the speeder's supposed to be in-universe. Or both- a spiritual successor to grievous's combat speeder. I don't think I've seen anyone mention it but the TIE Advanced polybag got revealed. Not that there's much to say, they couldn't even be bothered to put a cockpit print onto the transparent dish at the front like they used to. Edited 8 hours ago by Mandalorianknight Quote
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