TheScaryDoor Posted April 28 Posted April 28 10 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: We know that the 18+ market doesn't translate to "we can make sets with a maturity level for only adults", it's more of a marketing gimmick. There's some leeway- we know from the Daily Bugle spider-man set designer that they could make the comic versions of characters associated with adult television such as Daredevil or Punisher, but the issue with Andor is it's not like Syril and Dedra are popping up in kids' cartoons alongside the more mature content. Thats a good point but Lego still publish sets which are (in my opinion) only for adults. Jaws, Eiffel Tower etc. Of course thats another Level like Andor but I believe (and hope) that Lego won't stop publishing sets from this series. And they could for example make the Tie Avenger as a playset because it is a Tie Fighter. Regarding the leaked Battle Pack, I hope for future Death Troopers from Rogue One 🤗. Quote
lego the hutt Posted April 28 Posted April 28 52 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said: Regarding the leaked Battle Pack, I hope for future Death Troopers from Rogue One 🤗. That seems to be the general consensus. Quote
TeddytheSpoon Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 11 hours ago, RichardGoring said: With the May 4th offers coming up, the 4x points on the 75367 Venator is tempting. Could anyone that has built it comment on the build experience? I don't really know the Venator at all, but I like the imposing nature of some of the UCS sets and they can often be great to put together. Is this a fun/satisfying/clever build, or is it just big? All the reviews tend to focus on the look of it, accuracy, and endless discussion about a minifigure, but only JANG mentioned the build experience as being 'OK'. Comments on build experience would be greatly appreciated, thank you! I can't speak for myself, but I know one of my fellow reviewers at the Brothers Brick felt it was a bit of a slog. IIRC the sub-heading for the review was 'a giant plate sandwich'. Edited April 28 by TeddytheSpoon Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted April 28 Posted April 28 11 hours ago, RichardGoring said: With the May 4th offers coming up, the 4x points on the 75367 Venator is tempting. Could anyone that has built it comment on the build experience? It‘s not the most varied building experience, but it was at least way more interesting to build than the UCS Star Destroyer. The added splashes of colour help quite a bit Quote
Kaijumeister Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: We know that the 18+ market doesn't translate to "we can make sets with a maturity level for only adults", it's more of a marketing gimmick. I’ve been thinking about how much the 18+ification of this theme has been evolving since the helmets first became a thing shortly followed by the dioramas. The system of bricks remains the same but the overall experience they’re offering is what differs (even if the build experience isn’t radically different than if you’d be buying one of the ‘standard’ sets). For the most part, the helmets / dioramas / midi-scale ships, whilst questionable from a value point of view, have mostly landed well. But I think examples like the Starship Collection Kylo Ren’s Shuttle really stretch things to a breaking point. The set itself is tiny, barely has any pieces (of which a great many go into building the stand anyway) or detail, yet is exorbitantly priced with a fancy black box, fancy instruction manual with a foreword by Lego Star Wars Lead etc. for what is ultimately an absurdly simple set. That’s not to say the model itself is bad, but there’s a lot of fancy fanfare over a simple build just because it’s marketed as part of the 18+ lineup. Again they’re selling the experience around the product more than the product itself in this case. Anyway, more than anything I would have hoped that with the increase in 18+ and buildable character sets, the now diminishing number of minifigure sets would have more care and quality put into them, but it hardly sounds like that’s the case which really bums me out. The Night Trooper BP looks awesome and I can’t wait to get it, it would be cool to get another zombie faceprint for the Death Troopers. At this point, we can probably expect Enoch to be part of the Ashoka Season 2 wave. Edited April 28 by Kaijumeister Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, TheScaryDoor said: Thats a good point but Lego still publish sets which are (in my opinion) only for adults. Jaws, Eiffel Tower etc. Of course thats another Level like Andor but I believe (and hope) that Lego won't stop publishing sets from this series. And they could for example make the Tie Avenger as a playset because it is a Tie Fighter. Lego makes sets that generally mainly adults would be interested in, but not one that maturity wise are only for adults. Jaws was PG- definitely stretching the limits of what could be considered PG, but PG nontheless, and now viewed as sort of a classic. I think if it came out today, we probably wouldn't have gotten a set for it. I assume you're just saying you think kids wouldn't be as interested in the Eiffel tower because I'm struggling to think of a way in which it's content unsuitable for children. At the end of the day, while it isn't TV-MA and therefore seems like under lego's rules it's still technically able to get a set, I just don't see lego going out of their way to do so now that the edginess/maturity of Andor has gone up a notch when there's so much content around these days to cover. The avenger isn't the most well known tie and will fade from sight once Andor's done- why would they go out of their way to make it despite Andor's content when we've never had a Reaper, or it's been 15 years since the last defender? 8 hours ago, lego the hutt said: That seems to be the general consensus. Yeah I'd hope bringing the mold back means they have a plan to bring the standard DTs back. 21 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said: I’ve been thinking about how much the 18+ification of this theme has been evolving since the helmets first became a thing shortly followed by the dioramas. The system of bricks remains the same but the overall experience they’re offering is what differs (even if the build experience isn’t radically different than if you’d be buying one of the ‘standard’ sets). For the most part, the helmets / dioramas / midi-scale ships, whilst questionable from a value point of view, have mostly landed well. But I think examples like the Starship Collection Kylo Ren’s Shuttle really stretch things to a breaking point. The set itself is tiny, barely has any pieces (of which a great many go into building the stand anyway) or detail, yet is exorbitantly priced with a fancy black box, fancy instruction manual with a foreword by Lego Star Wars Lead etc. for what is ultimately an absurdly simple set. That’s not to say the model itself is bad, but there’s a lot of fancy fanfare over a simple build just because it’s marketed as part of the 18+ lineup. Again they’re selling the experience around the product more than the product itself in this case. They're forgetting that they're a toy brand, and that most lego star wars fans are here for lego star wars sets, not legoized versions of other star wars merchandise. Edited April 28 by Mandalorianknight Quote
BrickPrick Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) On 4/28/2025 at 1:28 AM, CallumPears said: I'm still very disappointed with the figure selection they went with. I swear there are some things which LEGO constantly does wrong while the rest of us are stood here screaming at them for how blatantly obvious the better way of doing it should be. It's a battle pack with elite troops and generic troops. Make it 1 elite and 3 generic, not 2 of each. They've been getting that wrong for over a decade at this point. Especially since they didn't even bother to give the Death Troopers unique damage markings. And we see way more white-helmet Night Troopers than grey-helmet ones so it really should've been 1 DT, 1 grey NT, 2 white NTs. Still not a fan of the new Stormtrooper helmets but whatever. GCC just released some very nice custom ones in the old style (I'm definitely getting a couple of those Artillery Trooper ones to replace mine) and hopefully they'll have a couple of different Night Trooper designs on the way soon. I'll still get it at some point, probably just 1 copy to not overload myself with too many of the Death Troopers. I still like the design of them, and want those zombie heads for other stuff too. As you say it definitely won't be day 1 though. I haven't paid full price for a battle pack in years, and for this one I'm factoring in the extra cost of the GCC helmets. I can see you standpoint on this, but i don't know why (or if there even is a good reason for that at all), but in this case, the 50:50 ratio doesn't bother me. Somehow... this feels different to me than past Lego's screw-ups. Besides me never buying multiple Battle Packs anyways, that is. It might as well be that simple. I am no hardcore army builder kinda guy, so i don't need to rely on more balanced minifigure breakdowns. On 4/28/2025 at 2:04 AM, AD_Bricks said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't think this really applies here in the same way it would to a BP with truly wacky trooper ratios (sith trooper BP), because most people buying this set are only going to buy one, and if there was only 1 death trooper, those people would only be able to get one of them. When you buy multiples you do end up with 50/50 generic/elite, which is frustrating, but in cases like this where the death troopers aren't going to be included anywhere else, I do think there have to be 2 of them. In my case, I'll probably just buy one of this one and end up with 3 night troopers and 2 death troopers, which I'm happy with. While on a larger scale it would be ideal if the generic troops outnumbered the specialists, I think just having 2 of each, which will be the case for most people, isn't that bad. Yeah, something like this. On 4/28/2025 at 3:20 AM, Mandalorianknight said: I actually like the ship- obviously it doesn't work for the canon size, but there weren't really better options besides a rubble pile or making stuff up. I also think it looks fun and it's impressive that they've managed to get a battle pack build to hold 5 figures, one of which is fully enclosed by a cockpit. Same here on that last bit- I'll be waiting for a discount, though I'll probably end up getting a few since I do like the mini Laatles. Oh, don't get me wrong, it's a decent build in it's own right. And like you said, there weren't exactly a plethora of other possibilities in terms of alternatives builds. But at the end of the day, it's just a Battle Pack build, you know what i mean? To me, it could be the greatest 100~ pieces thing ever made... it would still be my secondary focus. I build these things, maybe play around for a little bit, put them on my cabinet and then i move on. Man, i miss the times when you could just get those Battle Packs day and date for full price without thinking twice. Those were the days. On 4/28/2025 at 7:50 AM, TheScaryDoor said: Regarding the leaked Battle Pack, I hope for future Death Troopers from Rogue One 🤗. Yes, please... Shoretroopers would do it for me as well. On 4/28/2025 at 8:43 AM, lego the hutt said: That seems to be the general consensus. Now only Lego needs to be aware of that, too... and act accordingly. Edited Tuesday at 04:38 PM by BrickPrick Quote
TheScaryDoor Posted April 28 Posted April 28 43 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: Lego makes sets that generally mainly adults would be interested in, but not one that maturity wise are only for adults. Jaws was PG- definitely stretching the limits of what could be considered PG, but PG nontheless, and now viewed as sort of a classic. I think if it came out today, we probably wouldn't have gotten a set for it. I assume you're just saying you think kids wouldn't be as interested in the Eiffel tower because I'm struggling to think of a way in which it's content unsuitable for children. At the end of the day, while it isn't TV-MA and therefore seems like under lego's rules it's still technically able to get a set, I just don't see lego going out of their way to do so now that the edginess/maturity of Andor has gone up a notch when there's so much content around these days to cover. The avenger isn't the most well known tie and will fade from sight once Andor's done- why would they go out of their way to make it despite Andor's content when we've never had a Reaper, or it's been 15 years since the last defender? Yes, Jaws is a classic and therefore on another level like Andor. And I thought about the big Eiffel Tower from Lego which is to much money for children and possibly not very suitable as a playset. Andor was already very mature in S1 and we still got sets and also the Tie Avenger could be possible if no other Tie would be in Lego's pipeline. But I understand also your point and it might be that Lego stops (I hope not) because Andor getting too mature and so much other content is comming around. Quote
Kaijumeister Posted April 29 Posted April 29 8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: They're forgetting that they're a toy brand, and that most lego star wars fans are here for lego star wars sets, not legoized versions of other star wars merchandise. Yup, that’s exactly the problem. They’re losing sight of why this theme worked in the first place. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted April 29 Posted April 29 9 sets releasing in this wave, and only 1 of them is an ""actual"" LEGO set... truly dystopian times for the LEGO Star Wars theme. (Though seriously, I feel like this would have been inconceivable like 2 years ago) Quote
RichardGoring Posted April 29 Posted April 29 15 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said: I can't speak for myself, but I know one of my fellow reviewers at the Brothers Brick felt it was a bit of a slog. IIRC the sub-heading for the review was 'a giant plate sandwich'. 15 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: It‘s not the most varied building experience, but it was at least way more interesting to build than the UCS Star Destroyer. The added splashes of colour help quite a bit Thanks! I can't believe I missed searching for TBB's review. That helped a lot. Seems like some fun stuff in places, but a lot of plate stacking too. Van Gogh Starry Night was one of my least favourite builds because of all the plates, so I shall look elsewhere. Really appreciate the insight. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 18 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said: 9 sets releasing in this wave, and only 1 of them is an ""actual"" LEGO set... truly dystopian times for the LEGO Star Wars theme. (Though seriously, I feel like this would have been inconceivable like 2 years ago) I miss the days when it was all playsets and one or two UCS a year. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted April 29 Posted April 29 22 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said: 9 sets releasing in this wave, and only 1 of them is an ""actual"" LEGO set... truly dystopian times for the LEGO Star Wars theme. (Though seriously, I feel like this would have been inconceivable like 2 years ago) It can always be worse- the sets we go get still have a budget for the figures, unlike marvel. And we still get more than like 3 sets a year, unlike DC. 40 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said: Yup, that’s exactly the problem. They’re losing sight of why this theme worked in the first place. They're trying to capture- at this point- essentially a plurality adult market, but at the same time squeezing to a lower and lower quality and PPP- the aforementioned Kylo's shuttle, for example. We're also reaching a point where stuff just stops feeling like it captures the spirit of lego whatsoever- almost all the detail on the Kylo Helmet beyond the basic shape is represented by stickers/prints. It's essentially a blob that they drew Kylo Ren's face on with a sharpie. And they consistently learn the wrong lessons from sales data- with the kylo sets, for example, I'm sure they're going to come to the conclusion that the issue is they're sequel sets. And however well you think sequel sets in general would do now, I think everyone can admit this is not a fair shot for the era. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted April 29 Posted April 29 24 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I miss the days when it was all playsets and one or two UCS a year. Same, it feels weird to care so little for the vast majority of new sets from my favourite theme Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted April 29 Posted April 29 19 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said: Same, it feels weird to care so little for the vast majority of new sets from my favourite theme Yeah I don't buy many new LSW sets anymore, I only got 3 sets last year. Quote
Swordy Posted April 29 Posted April 29 (edited) On 4/24/2025 at 7:30 PM, Darth_Bane13 said: I think the ROTS sets are a bit disappointing this year, we're not getting any main characters of the movie and the sets are just vehicles seen in the background. At least last year saw Qui-Gon, Maul, and Ani, even if they are the three of the most repeated TPM characters in LEGO form. Granted, a yellow N-1 was near impossible, but a bit more creativity beyond buildable droids and Brickheadz would be more than welcome. On 4/23/2025 at 6:04 PM, BrickPrick said: Ha, size-wise, i would at least consider the 75300 Imperial TIE Fighter to be close to a middle ground between 75237 and 75211. Although, as the former is a 4+ set, it might not qualify for a fair comparison. I don't know how the new TIE Frankenstein mashup thingy fits into all of this, though. Actually, 75300 (and subsequently the TIE in the TIE-Wing V X-Fighter since they I believe all that was changed was downsizing the windscreen dish) is my definition of a Chibi TIE. I’m okay with downscaling the detail, like on the X-Wing, but with the X-Wing it retained it’s size from ‘18 to ‘21; conversely, the TIE’s wing shrunk down such that it looks cute. $80-90 is too high for kids to reasonably obtain, but the size of the $45 TIE doesn’t interest me. Granted, I can grab the older TIE or build a MOC to suffice my needs, but TLG might do better in offering a middle ground TIE at around $60-70. (Oh, and while I’m making unreasonable requests, maybe recolour the TIE in sand blue too!) On 4/27/2025 at 7:12 AM, Shiva said: One man we might have to thank, for keeping SW alive, after the first film, might very well be Irvin Kershner and not George Lucas. Very true. If TESB wasn’t the masterpiece it was, there is no RotJ, and with no RotJ there’s no Thrawn trilogy, no prequels, and certainly no Disney acquisition. As an Empire stan I’d love a pair of Lucas and Kersh figures. Maybe Richard Marquand for RotJ as well, although he’s not nearly as renown as even Kershner. On 4/27/2025 at 9:19 AM, CloneCommando99 said: What I find funny is that the supposed wheel build is literally just the middle leg joint of the 2022 AT TE with one extra layer. *inhales* MARA JADE!!!! Jokes aside, I agree. I would love to see more exclusive in universe characters in ACs. Mara Jade, Gallius Rax, Captain Fordo, ARC Trooper Alpha, Crosshair, Mara Jade, Doctor Aphra, Jaxxon, Commander Pyre, Norra Wexley, Major Partagaz, Mara Jade, Scorch, Light side Ventress, Jedi Temple Guard, Mara Jade, Jedi Training Leia, Captain Pellaeon, Sol, Quimir, Darth Nihillus and Mara Jade would all make great AC figures. Now that you mention it… oof, those wheels aren’t cutting it. Crazily enough given your unabashed love for the character, it seems like you forgot to mention Mara Jade. She’d be a pretty cool minifigure. I also support seeing Captain Pelleaon, although it’s more likely TLG will wait for him to feature prominently in Ahsoka S2 or the Filoniverse movie. Best to leave the slot open for another fanfavourite, such as Mara Jade. On 4/27/2025 at 9:08 AM, BrickPrick said: And on a more obvious note... Movie/Show themed calendar's could (or should) absolutely be a thing. This way you would tie it all together. In fact, Lego did that once with the 2021 Mando one. While neither the actual figs nor their overall amount were anything to write home about, it proofed to be quite a popular choice for people. Locally speaking, it was sold out across nearly every major shop in a matter of weeks and was generally hard to come by. Of course, Mando hype peaked at that point of time and that definitely gave it a push forward, but i have never seen an AC on such high demand before. Speaking as someone who bought the Mando calendar… that would be a horrible idea. The only exciting part was Mando with a scarf (because he couldn’t wear a sweater but Vader can?) and Grogu. What plagued that set more was the weird rule that only figures from sets at least three months older than the AdCal can be included, so the calendar was stuck with IG-11 and army-builders. Themed AdCals would work best a year after the tie-in sets are released, but obviously then the timeline doesn’t match up. To provide an example, the exciting new clones from this year’s summer wave couldn’t be included in this year’s AdCal, but could be in next year’s calendar. It’s been almost a week, so I’ll give my vague take on the Andor situation: If TLG wants to play it safe, I still believe we can see more Andor sets, just not any figures from the surrounding episode of that scene. Even then, that scene is a far cry from what happened in Acolyte, so while that show didn’t get an sets, I don’t think an exact comparison can be made. Not to mention, as @THELEGOBATMANpointed out, Twilight (inexplicably) got a set despite its issues, since it is (again, inexplicably) very popular. So what I see is that Acolyte wasn’t popular, meanwhile Andor just might be (we’ll see if the numbers improve from S1), and that each show’s popularity is directly proportional to the it’s respective set coverage. Granted, it’s never been a pure numbers game—LEGO is a family-friendly brand that first and foremost is for kids. Nevertheless, a TIE Avenger or a Fondor, a dual-bladed lightsaber of a ship, is cool regardless whether the kid has seen the show or not, and each can be done without the characters involved in that situation. Edited April 29 by Swordy Quote
BrickPrick Posted Tuesday at 09:22 AM Posted Tuesday at 09:22 AM 5 hours ago, Swordy said: Actually, 75300 (and subsequently the TIE in the TIE-Wing V X-Fighter since they I believe all that was changed was downsizing the windscreen dish) is my definition of a Chibi TIE. I’m okay with downscaling the detail, like on the X-Wing, but with the X-Wing it retained it’s size from ‘18 to ‘21; conversely, the TIE’s wing shrunk down such that it looks cute. $80-90 is too high for kids to reasonably obtain, but the size of the $45 TIE doesn’t interest me. Granted, I can grab the older TIE or build a MOC to suffice my needs, but TLG might do better in offering a middle ground TIE at around $60-70. (Oh, and while I’m making unreasonable requests, maybe recolour the TIE in sand blue too!) Speaking as someone who bought the Mando calendar… that would be a horrible idea. The only exciting part was Mando with a scarf (because he couldn’t wear a sweater but Vader can?) and Grogu. What plagued that set more was the weird rule that only figures from sets at least three months older than the AdCal can be included, so the calendar was stuck with IG-11 and army-builders. Themed AdCals would work best a year after the tie-in sets are released, but obviously then the timeline doesn’t match up. To provide an example, the exciting new clones from this year’s summer wave couldn’t be included in this year’s AdCal, but could be in next year’s calendar. I agree that the 2021 X-Wing did retain its size from the old one and the TIE Fighter did not. Still think the 75300 is a solid build. Especially for the 40 bucks price tag it originally got offered for. It was actually my first TIE Fighter, so the value was definitely there for me. The 75211, while probably delivering the best play scale build so far, on the other hand, was (in hindsight) too big for my taste. But seeing this thing would probably be ~90 bucks in today's money, i would be curious how a standard TIE in the 60/70s range with ~600 pieces would look today. Well, speaking as someone who has the majority of the Advent Calendar's, the Mando version is clearly one of the weaker ones, yes. Like i implied, the minifigure line-up was rather underwhelming and half of it didn't exactly scream Mando. Like you can have a generic Stormtrooper/Scout Trooper in every AC. And yes, the Scarf Mando felt like Lego was doing the bare minimum. Grogu was pretty cute, though. Not much else they could have done with this tiny dude. That's neither how i would imagine a good themed AC nor what i was trying to convey. Given good execution (that's such an important thing, right), themed AC's could absolutely be a breath of fresh air. The combination of completely new, never before seen characters, new versions of already existing characters and returns of slightly updated variants of long lost characters could be an exciting prospect. And if you were to release Episode-specific calendar's, you would not need to worry about any timeline. But yeah... I can see this is a long shot. There are just so many missing minifigures still, that you look up every opportunity for Lego to fill the gapes. A considerable amount of wishful thinking applies there for sure. Although, like i said, they do it with Lego HP all the time. Quote
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rebelpilot Posted Tuesday at 10:54 AM Posted Tuesday at 10:54 AM (edited) I swear I memory holed seeing the 75412 battleback when the confidential watermark leaks occurred, but seeing the latest leak I'm a bit confused and disappointed. On 4/28/2025 at 2:49 PM, Llewop said: i know im not alone here but if these were normal Death troopers and normal stormtroopers this set would be perfect. I'm not ordinarily one to wishlist what battlepacks should be but I'm a bit baffled that Lego went with uber scene specific death troopers (and stormtroopers) and I'm glad to read I'm not the only one. I get they're from Ahsoka, a series I've not seen, but I think a more generic troop battlepack with plain death troopers from Andor/Rogue One/Mandolorian would be more ideal. I don't even have a horse in this race, I've got enough death troopers from 2017 but if you're going to go to the effort of bringing back a troop I'd still like people to be able to get a more multipurpose and in demand version. On 4/28/2025 at 12:34 PM, CallumPears said: Predicting it now: the advent calendar will have ANOTHER Death Trooper (like what they did with the Clone Commander nobody wanted multiples of a couple of years ago). I'm still holding my breath for a Pre-Mor Security Officer (i.e. Corpo Syril with a different head) to show up in an advent calendar. Note: it didn't happen in 2022 or 2023 so I know it's not happening now but if a Bespin Guard can be included and it still be one of the best advent calendars, why not Pre-Mor Security? For everyone bemoaning the lack of TIE Avenger so far, with 75393, 75347 and 75348 (retired but still available where I am) all on the shelves I think Lego was smart to go with the U-Wing for now until there's a bit more room for another TIE variant in the line-up. Hopefully the not too distant future. Edited Tuesday at 10:57 AM by rebelpilot Quote
BrickPrick Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:22 PM Okay, i wanna take a shot (maybe even Aayla Secura style) at this whole crazy clone extravaganza. Now i know this has been somewhat of an controversial topic on this forum. Especially this year as we witness (at least for this decade) an unprecedented case of TCW overflow. Star Wars is very much a generational thing at it's core, duh. And as a major part of the merchandise for over a quarter of a century, the same principle applies to Lego Star Wars. Depending on what you grew up with and when you jumped into Lego, each individual obviously want to see different things to happen and add to their personal collection. I grew up with both the OT and PT. Since the latter was pretty polarizing and fresh back then, it had a bigger impact on me at the time. As for Lego, besides casually owning a few sets here and there during my childhood, this passion never materialized as a main hobby until 2017. At that point, the shelf space was dominated by new Disney Star Wars properties (OT & ST). Some amazing sets for sure. Catched up to some great RO sets as much as possible. But after the golden age of TCW, it didn't felt like there was an awful lot of that and the prequels in store for us. For example, the way you understandable feel now about several Republic Starfighters releases, i felt too when Lego made yet another X-Wing, harking back to the generational thing, which obviously also influences business decisions. Yeah, it would absolutely be better to have some more variety on display again and i can definitely comprehend this natural desire from past experience. As much as i love putting my clones on a grey baseplate, i slowly but surely grow sick and tired of it all, too. Like the new 327th Battle Pack is hardly something i can get excited for anymore. So yeah, i would appreciate more OT related stuff again. But let's not forget what really derailed this train in the first place. The clones are merely a trend, a symptom of this whole mess, the cause lies elsewhere. Lego's obsession and shift of making primarily toys for kids (which adults can enjoy as well) to increasingly trying to appeal to the adult market is the root of the problem at hand. Those 18+ sets and various additional formats are cannibalizing the system scale set slots like there is no tomorrow. Like this very May wave is actually perfectly showcasing. If there was some sort of middle ground, say Lego slashes the amount of these things Darth Maul style and replaces them with some OT sets, you probably wouldn't complaining or at least don't mind the clone craziness, because the ratio would obviously be balanced again. Last but not least, let me say this... I can not stand the ST. Like, at all. But seeing these hungry fans, patiently waiting for Lego to throw them a bone or two, is kinda sad to see. You guys definitely deserve better than this. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Tuesday at 12:48 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:48 PM 20 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Last but not least, let me say this... I can not stand the ST. Like, at all. But seeing these hungry fans, patiently waiting for Lego to throw them a bone or two, is kinda sad to see. You guys definitely deserve better than this. I’d say they threw us a pretty significant bone with the Senate in his TROS outfit! Adding Kylo to the helmet collection is a big win in my book as well. As a fan of all eras, I‘m not particularly sad about the lack of ST sets, simply because of how well they covered everything when the movies came out. There are gaps, sure, but nowhere near as notable as some other movies and especially shows. What I‘m hungry for is new stuff primarily, so I‘m very happy SW finally returns to the big screen! (Not the only reason of course ) Quote
THELEGOBATMAN Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:01 PM 8 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: There are gaps, sure, but nowhere near as notable as some other movies and especially shows. I wouldn't really agree with that. What gaps do the Original and Prequel trilogies have that the Sequel one doesn't? Each of those trilogies has been getting multiple sets every year for the past 26 years. While Sequels got, what? Two waves per movie and that's it? They covered them really well, sure, but I don't see how they could even start competing with the other two trilogies in terms of their respective set coverage. The only advantage the Sequel trilogy has is that all the sets are fairly recent, so they all still fresh; the Original and Prequel trilogies need more remakes to keep up with the recent looks, moulds, trends etc. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted Tuesday at 01:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:31 PM 28 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I wouldn't really agree with that. What gaps do the Original and Prequel trilogies have that the Sequel one doesn't? I meant the spin-offs, not the OT or PT Quote
BrickPrick Posted Tuesday at 01:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:33 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, MKJoshA said: There's a free Star Wars bundle drawing you can enter till May 8th on the Lego website. Oh good. At first i thought this would be an actual drawing competition and i didn't want them to be scared of my awful artistic skill level. 54 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I’d say they threw us a pretty significant bone with the Senate in his TROS outfit! Adding Kylo to the helmet collection is a big win in my book as well. As a fan of all eras, I‘m not particularly sad about the lack of ST sets, simply because of how well they covered everything when the movies came out. There are gaps, sure, but nowhere near as notable as some other movies and especially shows. What I‘m hungry for is new stuff primarily, so I‘m very happy SW finally returns to the big screen! (Not the only reason of course ) Ha, that's the thing, the coverage must have reached reached rock bottom (no offense to your nickname), if releasing a single desirable and nice looking minifigure is considered a pretty significant bone. If the roles between ST and PT would be swapped, i don't know how i would feel about getting just a new helmet after all these years... even if i could be excited about 18+ sets. You take everything you can without looking back, i guess. And well, i'd be lying if i said the total lack of ST sets is something to personally mourn about... i don't. Never was, never will be. I just feel bad and almost pity the fans that do. Don't know if they even expect anything beyond anniversaries at this point. 41 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: I wouldn't really agree with that. What gaps do the Original and Prequel trilogies have that the Sequel one doesn't? Each of those trilogies has been getting multiple sets every year for the past 26 years. While Sequels got, what? Two waves per movie and that's it? They covered them really well, sure, but I don't see how they could even start competing with the other two trilogies in terms of their respective set coverage. The ST ships are based so much on variants from OT vehicles that you reach a point of completion rather quickly. Sure, there are some locations who could have easily made the jump to official play sets. But in the grand scheme of things, despite having just like two waves per movie, i feel like the trilogy as a whole has been covered quite well. The PT, on the other hand, despite the discrepancy in terms of runtime and the overall amount of sets, i would wager, has still much more gaps than the ST. Which sounds implausible at first, but when you look up the the vastly different approach to world building and the actual desire to create new things between these two trilogies, it makes perfect sense. So, in conclusion, the PT and OT got much more sets than the ST, yes... but given the source material alone, this is much needed as well. And therefore, in my eyes, justified. Edited Tuesday at 01:43 PM by BrickPrick Quote
Llewop Posted Tuesday at 01:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:34 PM I say it all the time we are at a point now with Star Wars that there are so many different things/eras you can not cater to everyone. Balance is needed of course but unfortunately some people are always going to be disappointed and more importantly some people are going to argue that there bit of SW deserves more than this bit etc etc end of the day the biggest issue is the death of the traditional LEGO Star Wars set that was aimed at all ages. 18+ sets aren’t going away and it’s going to be at the cost of the sets we all love. Even still without the 18+ sets on the shelves we would still be arguing that someone’s era of Star Wars isn’t getting enough coverage. The only way to please everyone would be to do 100 sets a year and you know that would be ridiculous because no one could afford that or want that really. Been on here so long that I’ve seen people crying for clones to hating clones, from being bored of Luke’s landspeeder to wanting it done again. I think if enough people don’t like the sets and don’t buy them eventually Lego will get the message but again Lego can release what they want nobody forces us to buy them. Most of us probably dip our toes in other Lego themes so for me last years average LSW year was good because I could focus what little money I can afford on Lego in to other projects. Does make me wonder though are people here on Eurobricks because we are Lego fans first or Star Wars fans? Quote
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