BrickBob Studpants Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Yeah, screentime is an absurd metric to use for minifig selections. I think the best example for that is Boba Fett. He has very little screentime and barely does anything in the OT, and yet has dozens of minifigs And Lando should indeed be available in more sets, especially his CC outfit. Kinda weird to always paywall that behind large sets. They could easily release a new Cloud Car set and include him there! Quote
Llewop Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Yeah, screentime is an absurd metric to use for minifig selections. I think the best example for that is Boba Fett. He has very little screentime and barely does anything in the OT, and yet has dozens of minifigs And Lando should indeed be available in more sets, especially his CC outfit. Kinda weird to always paywall that behind large sets. They could easily release a new Cloud Car set and include him there! I don’t get the hype for Boba barely does anything in two films get cucked in his own series but screen time isn’t a good metric, neither is what random person from eurobricks says either. Characters can leave an impact and only have seconds of screen time or they could have an entire film/trilogy do nothing of note. At some point the die hard OT fans will have to let go of the fact that it’s ever becoming a smaller part of the franchise. Do kids of today like the OT? It’s impossible to know as there aren’t any kids here we are all adults so have different opinions. That’s not me saying they shouldn’t make sets on OT but for balance it will get less coverage same as the PT and CW. I’ve hit my mid 30s now and all I crave is castle and pirate sets now I find my focus more drawn to them than to SW. Quote
lego the hutt Posted June 28 Posted June 28 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: This is like saying it’d be fine for only old man or stormtrooper disguise Luke to be on shelves instead of his more iconic Pilot, Jedi or farmboy appearances That's definitely fine. It's all the same character. Why wouldn't you want variety? The complaints would be more valid if a Lando figure had never been produced or it had been awhile. Different versions of a character is a positive thing. Quote
lego the hutt Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 hours ago, BrickPrick said: What an odd take to call it an odd take. Never tell me the odd takes. Wow... This gotta be the most miserable metric i've seen for a long time. If i ever wanna disagree with someone just for the sake of it, rest assured, i'm gonna use this one. I wonder what Greedo's minifigure per seconds of screen time ratio would be... I reckon, it's like ten seconds. It reminds me of this terrible money per hour measurement for certain entertainment media. Seeing it again on a Lego forum wasn't on my personal bingo card. Yeah, that's my point. He has been incredibly inaccessible as of late. And what timeframe would you consider someone as being "new to the hobby"? If you are not @BrickBob Studpants, chances are you are not collecting this theme since 1999. Plus pretty much everyone has their dark ages sooner or later. New generations getting into Lego as well. That's why a steady supply of certain characters (just like sets) can work wonders. And this is clearly not the case in here. No, but since you were basically asking for this, we will get into an extented Lego Lando history lesson: The first Bespin Lando was released in a $100 set in 2003. At the time, this was pretty expensive. And we certainly don't need to talk about after market prices. Then just a short 15 years later, we got the one and only modern rendition of the Cloud City Lando, arguably his most iconic look. In a $350 set... also expensive in 2018. It already retired at the end of the following year and that's that. The 2019 anniversary figure is obviously a callback to the classic minifigure. So, the point still stands, as of today, the most desirable version of Lando was never made available in an affordable play scale set. That's the definition of inaccessible. It's an unnecessary rarity. The rest fares addmittably better than this... though still not great. The two Skiff Guard Landos came out in 2006 and 2012, respectively... which is alright. However the third one took until last year. Not much consistency going on there. General Lando released in 2009 and 2017. Nothing since then. Wouldn't describe that as recent. But at least those figures came in regular sets. Haha it's fine if you didn't like the screentime metric. It was just to make a point about Lando being a support character. Don't overthink it. Understand the point that we have gotten a bunch of Lando figs and he doesn't have that much screentime. Of course there are other characters with a higher ratio of figs to screentime 😆. Since you asked, personally, I would say people are new to Lego as a hobby if they have only been an adult collector for less than 10 years or so. If you are a child you are just playing with toys and it's not actually a hobby at that point 🤷. But to each their own. I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten. The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆. We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020. That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted June 28 Posted June 28 4 minutes ago, lego the hutt said: I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten. The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆. We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020. That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable. Your argument is that because we got Lando dressed as Tamale Skreej, is that the cloud city Lando is not needed? Quote
BrickPrick Posted June 28 Posted June 28 3 minutes ago, lego the hutt said: Haha it's fine if you didn't like the screentime metric. It was just to make a point about Lando being a support character. Don't overthink it. Understand the point that we have gotten a bunch of Lando figs and he doesn't have that much screentime. Of course there are other characters with a higher ratio of figs to screentime 😆. Since you asked, personally, I would say people are new to Lego as a hobby if they have only been an adult collector for less than 10 years or so. If you are a child you are just playing with toys and it's not actually a hobby at that point 🤷. But to each their own. I'm aware of the Lando figures we have gotten. The frequency is what was being discussed (not cost). You don't have to give the whole brickipedia break down 😆. We just got a Lando fig in 2024 and there was a bespin Lando on the shelves in 2020. That's why the complaints seemed unreasonable. So, you overthink stuff and then tell me i shouldn't overthink the stuff you were just overthinking? Okay, so by your definition i am still new to Lego Star Wars. So my chances of getting a new Lando is obviously more limited compared to someone who is collecting longer than me. Don't forget... we are all biased in some regards. My initial point was his inaccessible status. And the price points definitely contributed to that. So I'd say this is part of the discussion at hand. And yes, the 20th anniversary Lando was still on shelves in 2020... but a mere replica of the original figure. Like i said, there was never any modern Bespin based Lando released in a system scale set... and this just feels out of place to me. In terms of it's availability, it might be fair to differenciate a bit between Cloud City Lando and his other versions, though. Quote
lego the hutt Posted June 28 Posted June 28 Lol I was admitting the mins of screen time metric was a little silly. It was trying to make a point about supporting characters but clearly the point wasn't as obvious as I was hoping. The exact minutes were being focused on instead of the overarching point of primary vs support characters 😜. So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted. You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆. It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷 Quote
Llewop Posted June 28 Posted June 28 22 minutes ago, lego the hutt said: Lol I was admitting the mins of screen time metric was a little silly. It was trying to make a point about supporting characters but clearly the point wasn't as obvious as I was hoping. The exact minutes were being focused on instead of the overarching point of primary vs support characters 😜. So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted. You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆. It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷 We are all guilty of it really. Wishlisting can’t be helped sometimes people are more realistic than others Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) I'm not even going to dignify this sentiment with further response, everyone else is doing an excellent job explaining how utterly absurd this argument is. Though he's getting what he wants it seems, as at least for 1HY there are no leaks I've seen about sets that would include Lando... or Han, or Luke, or Chewbacca, or Leia, or a Stormtrooper... If the theme continues the way it's going, by the end of next year the only way to get any non-vader member of the main OT cast directly from lego will be to spend almost a thousand dollars. Edited June 28 by Mandalorianknight Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted June 28 Posted June 28 I still think the next Falcon should be ROTJ themed, although it probably wont happen because we got Nien Nunb as an anniversary figure. Quote
MKJoshA Posted June 28 Author Posted June 28 I think we need to tone down the Lando discussion. It's getting pretty heated and it doesn't need to. Each person is entitled to his or her own opinion. @lego the hutt has shared his, and given reasoning for it. You can disagree, but no one need to go on the offensive. Quote
BrickPrick Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, lego the hutt said: So you want a "modern version" of a specific character in a specific outfit when we have gotten multiple slightly different versions and you are nit picking that you haven't gotten exactly what you wanted. You do realize that comes off as slightly unreasonable right? 😆. It's this kind of thing that is why eurobricks has the reputation it does 🤷 Well, wishlisting is a personal thing, yeah. Of course, it can be perceived as "unreasonable" by people who don't want it or necessarily care for it. Nothing special about it. For you, it's nitpicking. For me, it's an unnecessary restriction on Lego's part. For you, it's enough. For me, it's not. Simple as that. It might serve you if you were slightly more open minded about such things. Instead of using the extraordinary "Eurobricks reputation" as an excuse. I know, this isn't exactly the place for some excessive wishlisting, so this will be my last Lando posting for now and leave it at that. Edited June 28 by BrickPrick Quote
Llewop Posted June 28 Posted June 28 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I'm not even going to dignify this sentiment with further response, everyone else is doing an excellent job explaining how utterly absurd this argument is. Though he's getting what he wants it seems, as at least for 1HY there are no leaks I've seen about sets that would include Lando... or Han, or Luke, or Chewbacca, or Leia, or a Stormtrooper... If the theme continues the way it's going, by the end of next year the only way to get any non-vader member of the main OT cast directly from lego will be to spend almost a thousand dollars. SW is such a big thing now nobody likes the whole thing. Whilst your preference maybe the OT it’s not now everyone’s. The more new content we have and the more the years roll by its prevalence will diminish. The skywalker saga is supposedly over and the last few projects have all been looking beyond that and SW is successful without having those main characters. let’s remember Andor is one of the best received series and that is a spinoff to a spinoff which is a sequel to the prequel era and also a prequel to the originals and apart from a handful of prequel cameos (except mon mothma) im not saying they should stop making OT stuff but the rate at which new stuff comes out the demand will go down for the OT stuff. The next x wings, y wings, a wings, TIe, snowspeeders, AT-ATs aren’t going to be based on the OT anymore it’ll be on something different something current and in more demand. Chances are anything OT will be aimed at adults so that UCS and Dioramas (if they are still a thing) it’s not my place to say that what you like about SW is wrong but I think everyone here needs reminding constantly that just because person A likes this doesn’t mean everyone else is in the same boat. It’s one of the downsides of algorithms is that we only see what they think we want to see which is people who ageee with us and often it isn’t a true representation. i think Lego’s sales might indicate how well they can cope without featuring the main OT cast. If they think they can do it then they can. But all everyone has here is opinions and nobody ever shares one you just got to respect that people look at things differently. if Disney and Lucas film get their arses in gear we are set for new tv and films until at least the end of the 2020s now is rather Lego focus on the new stuff and if they are revisiting older media focus on things that haven’t been done before or haven’t been done in at least 10 years. 50 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: Well, wishlisting is a personal thing, yeah. Of course, it can be perceived as "unreasonable" by people who don't want it or necessarily care for it. Nothing special about it. For you, it's nitpicking. For me, it's an unnecessary restriction on Lego's part. For you, it's enough. For me, it's not. Simple as that. It might serve you if you were slightly more open minded about such things. Instead of using the extraordinary "Eurobricks reputation" as an excuse. I know, this isn't exactly the place for some excessive wishlisting, so this will be my last Lando posting for now and leave it at that. The Lando series is still being worked on last time I checked so there is always hope he gets a set for that series. For me Lando has always seemed like he was a Han while Han was frozen. Didn’t really bring much else to the table, but actually thinking about it I don’t actually like that many SW characters lol, like a true SW fan. Quote
CallumPears Posted June 28 Posted June 28 (edited) Just a small correction with the Lando thing: the 20th Anniversary Snowspeeder was only on shelves for a few months. It actually retired in December 2019 and at least in all the shops around me it disappeared pretty fast. I could still find the Imperial Dropship and Clone Walker (which retired at the same time) for a while after and even managed to get the Dropship on clearance for £12 but the Snowspeeder basically evaporated overnight. And yeah I'm firmly on the side that Bespin stuff in general doesn't get made enough, with Mr Calrissian being a big part of that. They should've put him in the 2017 freezing chamber set. Anyway, AT-ST pictures when? (Also better quality pictures of the others since we still haven't seen the 327th pack all together or any other angles of the other sets) They're all set to release on 1st August (right?) so I'd be very surprised if we don't have anything more before the start of July since at that point it'd basically be time for the official reveals. Edited June 28 by CallumPears Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted June 28 Posted June 28 4 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I still think the next Falcon should be ROTJ themed, although it probably wont happen because we got Nien Nunb as an anniversary figure. Yeah I think that implies lego as of last year had no plans for an ROTJ falcon (or minifig Fallen Order/survivor sets...) It's been long enough that the new system falcon, which I doubt we see until 2027, should probably just be the stock ANH one. Which would dovetail nicely with the anniversary- I don't think we should be celebrating every time a project has been around another 5 years, but the 50th is a pretty big deal. 1 hour ago, Llewop said: SW is such a big thing now nobody likes the whole thing. Whilst your preference maybe the OT it’s not now everyone’s. The more new content we have and the more the years roll by its prevalence will diminish. The skywalker saga is supposedly over and the last few projects have all been looking beyond that and SW is successful without having those main characters. ...I don't understand this reaction to "there's a good chance none of the main hero characters from the literal backbone of the franchise will be availible for under $1000 by the end of next year" I never said everyone should prefer the OT. I simply pointed out that there's a good chance not a single OT hero will be availible in a sub $1000 set by the end of 2026, which I think is a pretty understandable thing to be concerned about. I've argued before that the main prequel cast should be more readily availible. I've said before we need the main sequel cast to show up in a set or two. This isn't some sort of OT favoritism thing (Though let's be clear- the OT SHOULDN'T be forgotten. It IS the backbone of the franchise, it's why star wars exists and is successful at all, and the majority of well-recieved disney era projects (Rogue One, Mando, Andor) draw heavily from it.), this is pointing out that the main heroes of an entire third of the franchise could soon become unobtainable from official sources unless you've got a full grand of spending money burning a hole in your pocket. 18 minutes ago, CallumPears said: Anyway, AT-ST pictures when? (Also better quality pictures of the others since we still haven't seen the 327th pack all together or any other angles of the other sets) They're all set to release on 1st August (right?) so I'd be very surprised if we don't have anything more before the start of July since at that point it'd basically be time for the official reveals. The AT-ST is, for all intents and purposes, a UCS set, so I wouldn't be surprised if it took awhile longer for images to appear. Quote
joebiwankenobi Posted June 28 Posted June 28 On the same note, though, we've had an utter plethora of affordable sets over the last 6 years that had the main OT cast in them. Just check the sets since 2019 and then consider how got the extended shelf stays on most of them that seem to be more common now. If someone needs a Han, Luke, Leia, Old Ben, and whatever variant, they can be picked up for relatively cheap depending on the variant. Sure, some characters aren't as common, but then again, we've been waiting on how long for certain prequel characters now--looking at you Dooku? Don't get me wrong, I've been advocating for a ROTJ Falcon for 10 years now just for the figure compliment. Is it going to happen? Likely not. Do I foresee the inevitable *lost count at this point* remake of *insert OT ship here* where one can get any of the figs *relatively* (the prices have gone lulu oingo boingo not cheap) cheap (*at the current state of prices across the board*)? No doubt. I do think there's a lot to be thankful for in just as much as there is to be critical about although the latter always beats out the former when it comes to comments/posts/videos/etc. I'm not singling anyone here out, but just making a general comment. Some examples of good improvements are the variety of sets made, the increased stability/accuracy of models, the new parts/molds, the improvements on stickers, and the increased figure assortment. There are some obvious downsides though. I understand a lot of it is subjective, but there are some things such as quality control when it comes to parts/prints and price/model size. Some of the problems are the result of the improvements such as the models getting smaller as they get more compact/stronger, etc. Others are not though. We've seen some major shifts in the product line over the last ten years and it seems the design team has taken a lot of community input/feedback into consideration, which, I think is a good thing. I'm happy that it's hopefully going to open the door to some cool stuff down the road. Hopefully! Didn't expect to see a UCS Jango Slave 1 ever. Hope we continue to see some prequel UCS stuff as that was always assumed to be ignored. Is it likely that TLG is now catering products more towards the CW era since they didn't really touch any of it for a very long time? Probably. Between the amount of people interested in that content and with how frequently it keeps coming up, it makes sense. Concerning the product output for "current" medias, I assume a lot of that deals down to the licensing agreement with Disney/Lucasfilm and the overall performance of a lot of product since the 2013 buyout or so. I think the strategy of playing it safe by making maybe 1 - 2 sets per new "thing" is pretty smart. Allows them to have some breathing room rather than have a whole wave and a lot of products become shelf warmers if the movie/media isn't well received. Will movies like the Mando/Baby deal have more sets. Probably. I'm sure there's a lot more to this as well that we won't ever really know, but thats neither here nor there. We're at a real interesting point to be a fan of Lego Star Wars. There's a lot of ships/characters/locations/etc. that TLG haven't made, but between the amount of custom fig makers and custom design instructions a fan can readily access now, I think TLG takes notice. I do think that plays into their consideration for product development/allotment as the design team has a lot of fan models built in their office over in Denmark. That's been a thing as far back as the UCS Imperial Shuttle and likely earlier. As fans, we can access and create a lot of what we don't have, but no one can deny it's nice when you can buy an official model. I can't remember what day some are at in campaigning for a TIE Avenger, but I imagine that will be something that has a higher likelihood of being made at some point. I mean, it's a TIE after all. Wait. We may not though, as we didn't get a Brute for Solo. However, as stated, we've got great fan designs to cover the bases TLG leaves empty. Overall, I think we've had a pretty diverse product compliment over the last few cycles, and look forward to what we're going to get in 2026. I'll admit, I haven't really bought a lot of it over the last few years, but I still enjoy it. Will there be controversy at some point? Undoubtedly. I just remember the days when the controversies with the brand were hilariously simple, like when TLG introduced curved wedges and slopes in 2002 and flesh tone figures in 2004 (Now that I think about it, it was in 2003, but it didn't really come to a head until the 2004 Falcon). The implications of both of those "incidents" have proven to be for the better. Alright, Grandpa's gone on too long at this point. Time to wheel myself back to the retirement center and find a Werther's candy or something similar. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted June 29 Posted June 29 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Yeah I think that implies lego as of last year had no plans for an ROTJ falcon (or minifig Fallen Order/survivor sets...) It's been long enough that the new system falcon, which I doubt we see until 2027, should probably just be the stock ANH one. Which would dovetail nicely with the anniversary- I don't think we should be celebrating every time a project has been around another 5 years, but the 50th is a pretty big deal. ...I don't understand this reaction to "there's a good chance none of the main hero characters from the literal backbone of the franchise will be availible for under $1000 by the end of next year" I never said everyone should prefer the OT. I simply pointed out that there's a good chance not a single OT hero will be availible in a sub $1000 set by the end of 2026, which I think is a pretty understandable thing to be concerned about. I've argued before that the main prequel cast should be more readily availible. I've said before we need the main sequel cast to show up in a set or two. This isn't some sort of OT favoritism thing (Though let's be clear- the OT SHOULDN'T be forgotten. It IS the backbone of the franchise, it's why star wars exists and is successful at all, and the majority of well-recieved disney era projects (Rogue One, Mando, Andor) draw heavily from it.), this is pointing out that the main heroes of an entire third of the franchise could soon become unobtainable from official sources unless you've got a full grand of spending money burning a hole in your pocket. I do wonder if they'll downscale the next falcon? Maybe not since the midi scale set is available. I think we'll likely get some OT sets in 2026, it's a bit early to be jumping to conclusions about that already. Also the desert skiff is on shelves and has a lot of main OT characters. It's really just Leia that's missing at this point. Maybe they could do something like the 2006 X-wing and include a bunch of figs, and retire that god awful x-wing/tie fighter mash up set. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted June 29 Posted June 29 3 hours ago, joebiwankenobi said: If someone needs a Han, Luke, Leia, Old Ben, and whatever variant, they can be picked up for relatively cheap depending on the variant. Secondhand, maybe. I just went on the lego website, and non-UCS sets that include heroes from the original three films are: Desert Skiff- Luke, Han (white shirt/blind), Chewie Pilot Mech - Luke That's it. If a kid goes on lego.com today, he or she straight up cannot get Leia. Once the skiff retires, there won't be any Hans or Chewies either. (Or Old Ben, who I don't consider a character version that needs to be on shelves, but we'll be thorough.) If it seemed like we were getting some new OT sets next year, this wouldn't bother me as much, but from the 1HY leaks for 2026 it seems like we're going with the same strategy as 2025. It seems pretty likely that children won't be able to get any of the main OT heroes by the end of next year. (The Imperials fair better with Stormtrooper in two sets and Vader's figure being readily availible, but I should note you can't currently get Papa Palpatine, and of course we haven't seen Tarkin in almost a decade) And let's be clear, because people like to play this game where saying stuff like this means you secretly hate the other parts of the franchise and don't want them to be represented in any capacity ever, this is an even worse situation for the ST, where you just can't get any characters, and haven't been able to for some time unless it was BB-8, or holiday sweaters for Rey and Finn. I actually don't like the sequels much- TFA is the only one I really enjoy- but there should be at least something out there besides Babu Frik. The prequels are faring the best overall, as a result of being the part of the franchise clones are from, but they still have a few omissions. The heroes are all at least availible in system sets- shockingly including Padme for once. (I was going to say we don't have any villains, but that isn't really the case- obviously Maul is out there, but in August we'll have Jango and Ventress as well.) Still, Dooku and Grievous are major characters who should have shown up more recently than they have (I mentioned this about dooku a few pages ago). Just now, Darth_Bane13 said: I do wonder if they'll downscale the next falcon? Maybe not since the midi scale set is available. I think we'll likely get some OT sets in 2026, it's a bit early to be jumping to conclusions about that already. Also the desert skiff is on shelves and has a lot of main OT characters. It's really just Leia that's missing at this point. Maybe they could do something like the 2006 X-wing and include a bunch of figs, and retire that god awful x-wing/tie fighter mash up set. I think it's possible, but I also wonder if they wouldn't have already done it for the evil falcon if they planned on it. I feel it's also fairly likely the next falcon is just our first $199.99 standard retail SW set. It's possible, but there are zero standard OT system sets this year, just figureless 18+ gimmick sets and the UCS. Given that 1HY of next year appears to be more of the same, I don't have much faith that there's a miracle switch in the 2HY. Not when they still have the Wolfpack and 41st legion to build the wave around. The desert skiff will hang on shelves awhile longer and lets you get Luke and Chewie, as well as a variant of Han and Lando (though I wouldn't consider these standard outfits for them) but it's still crazy, no? Aside from the pilot suit in the mech you've got one set to get any of the OT cast from unless you're shelling out hundreds on UCS, and there doesn't appear to be anything in line to keep them availible once the skiff retires, which is what I've been saying. Also, this has reminded me that there are indeed no OT imperial troopers in this year's calendar, making 2025 either the first time ever or the first time in 25 years without a single OT imperial trooper in a system set this year. Quote
Darth_Bane13 Posted June 29 Posted June 29 2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I think it's possible, but I also wonder if they wouldn't have already done it for the evil falcon if they planned on it. I feel it's also fairly likely the next falcon is just our first $199.99 standard retail SW set. It's possible, but there are zero standard OT system sets this year, just figureless 18+ gimmick sets and the UCS. Given that 1HY of next year appears to be more of the same, I don't have much faith that there's a miracle switch in the 2HY. Not when they still have the Wolfpack and 41st legion to build the wave around. The desert skiff will hang on shelves awhile longer and lets you get Luke and Chewie, as well as a variant of Han and Lando (though I wouldn't consider these standard outfits for them) but it's still crazy, no? Aside from the pilot suit in the mech you've got one set to get any of the OT cast from unless you're shelling out hundreds on UCS, and there doesn't appear to be anything in line to keep them availible once the skiff retires, which is what I've been saying. Also, this has reminded me that there are indeed no OT imperial troopers in this year's calendar, making 2025 either the first time ever or the first time in 25 years without a single OT imperial trooper in a system set this year. I can't imagine summer 2026 not having any OT sets but I suppose it's possible, also are the 2026 leaks even confirmed to be true? Also I feel big part of this problem is that we don't get nearly as many playsets anymore. There are 20+ movies and shows to cover at this point and we get maybe 15 playsets total in year nowadays. Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted June 29 Posted June 29 29 minutes ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I can't imagine summer 2026 not having any OT sets but I suppose it's possible, also are the 2026 leaks even confirmed to be true? Also I feel big part of this problem is that we don't get nearly as many playsets anymore. There are 20+ movies and shows to cover at this point and we get maybe 15 playsets total in year nowadays. I am confident on most of them, as well as one other. It's not my information to give (I puzzled out the one other myself, but I got it confirmed so I can't say what it is), but trust me, at least for the first half of the year it doesn't seem like lego's planning on a course correct. That is, of course, a major part of the problem. So much of the line is now dedicated to 18+ buildable, a trend that is not going away next year. There's clearly a market for it, and many of the sets are very solid- I adore that midi Falcon- but they take up so much of the availible store shelf space that there's not much room for much else. I mean this isn't just little gaps in collections or things like TBOBF's finale falling through the cracks, this is the foundation of the franchise going what (assuming there isn't a 1HY surprise) almost two years without a playset. It's the sequels not getting a single playset (with the exception of the holiday diorama), since the movies ended. Even within the prequels, the most well covered era, there are pretty significant gaps. If you aren't Mandalorian, a new project, or can't tie yourself to Jango's DNA, it's a losing fight to get a playset on shelves. Quote
AD_Bricks Posted June 29 Posted June 29 22 hours ago, lego the hutt said: I'm curious where you got 8 mins from? It's not much more than that but that's not right...Vader is also also a main character (as is Luke making that comparison silly and irrelevant). Lando has been readily available. Unless you are new to the hobby you likely have a Lando.. .or multiple. The last one was in 2024. You are nit picking about a certain outfit? Even that outfit that you are nit picking about was last released in 2019...you could still find it on shelves in 2020. That is very recent. These complaints are unfounded. But you also don't like the anniversary figure with the outfit you are asking for. This comes off as whining and isn't based on any actual lack of the character in Lego form. I just want to contribute my personal anecdote to the Lando figure discussion, as I have been somewhat disappointed by his lack of availability. I'm not overly fond of him as a character or anything, but he's pretty cool and I think it would be great to have one of his more iconic outfits available in a set that I can justify buying. I've been collecting LEGO Star Wars since, like, 2012, and I've managed to acquire 3 Lando figs. One is the TROS one from the TROS Falcon, and one is the Solo one from the Solo Falcon, but neither of them are really usable for recreating scenes from the OT. The other Lando fig that I have is from the 2012 skiff set, which I don't own, but I bought the figure off a friend as I already have the 2017 skiff set (which has the correct ROTJ Boba). Because of that, I have no reason to buy the 2024 skiff set, especially at that price, and I'm not really desperate for Nien Nunb or anything so I'm fine with that. What other options do I have for an OT Lando, ideally one in one of his outfits rather than someone else's that he wears briefly? MBS Cloud City was too expensive for me at the time and both the set and the Lando figure are too expensive now to justify buying. The 2017 general figure was in an A-Wing, but I never got around to getting that set while it was out, and now that figure is too expensive to justify buying, and I don't want to buy the A-Wing now as they might make a new one in the next few years anyway. Everything else is either too old or similarly too expensive. What am I supposed to do to get an actual OT Lando figure? For such a significant character with such a major presence in pop culture, his lack of presence in LEGO sets is surprising. That was way too long but I don't want to delete it since I spent too much time typing it so just feel free not to read it Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted June 29 Posted June 29 1 hour ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I can't imagine summer 2026 not having any OT sets but I suppose it's possible, also are the 2026 leaks even confirmed to be true? I honestly don’t know what Lego’s capable of doing here anymore. As for Tie Avenger campaign: Fun fact, the real reason why the Jedi turned a blind eye to Order 66 coming was not because the Dark side was preventing them from foreseeing it, but because they understood that it was a necessary evil to create the badass ship that is the Tie Avenger. No Order 66 = no galactic empire, no galactic empire = no Tie Fighter contract for Sienar Fleet systems, no Sienar Tie Fighter production = no Tie Avenger. The Jedi were actually heroes and sacrificed themselves because they understood that the events of Andor would happen because of it. (They, along with Palpatine who actually did it, are true connoisseurs of peak fiction alongside The Maker and Darkseid) 4 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: Also, this has reminded me that there are indeed no OT imperial troopers in this year's calendar, making 2025 either the first time ever or the first time in 25 years without a single OT imperial trooper in a system set this year. That’s very concerning. I hope for a course correction next year im the form of a ITT and Tie Avenger. Quote
BrickPrick Posted June 29 Posted June 29 13 hours ago, CallumPears said: Just a small correction with the Lando thing: the 20th Anniversary Snowspeeder was only on shelves for a few months. It actually retired in December 2019 and at least in all the shops around me it disappeared pretty fast. Ah, i should have looked this one up, too. That's even worse, then. And yes... very accessible! 8 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said: I do wonder if they'll downscale the next falcon? Maybe not since the midi scale set is available. For the love of the maker... please don't. I want to see the day when i can get a regular sized OT themed Falcon. First, there was the Solo version. Then the TROS one, which was on shelves for like forever. Now it is the RBTG Dark Falcon and the midi-scale one, because of course. There was a Microfighter that released in between, which is the only one i got. Personally, just feels like a unlucky timeline to get a standard Falcon. The Gingerbread Vader leaked. I like the coloring on this one. Printing looks good, if a bit basic and bland. Could have used some arm printing for sure. Quote
Lego Nostalgia Posted June 29 Posted June 29 I think the only Clone type sets needed are a normal Republic Gunship and something with Commander Wolffe and updated Kashyyyk troopers, then I will be happy for Clones to be retired for 5 years But I am thankful that we got the Galactic Marines and Bly, we'll probably never get them again A Mustafar or Palpatine's Arrest Diorama would have been nice, oh well, a D2C Coruscant would be cool, we really need more location type sets Quote
Coryo Posted June 29 Posted June 29 4 hours ago, AD_Bricks said: I've been collecting LEGO Star Wars since, like, 2012, and I've managed to acquire 3 Lando figs. One is the TROS one from the TROS Falcon, and one is the Solo one from the Solo Falcon, but neither of them are really usable for recreating scenes from the OT. The other Lando fig that I have is from the 2012 skiff set, I'm in a similar position, but with the 2024 Skiff figure instead of 2012, I'm currently using his Ep IX body with the Skiff head + Finn's hairpiece. I can sort of accept it as an OT-era Lando since he wears the yellow outfit in one of the Marvel ongoing comics set between Eps V and VI. Spoiler But yeah, I'd definitely like to see his Cloud City or Rebellion General outfits in a set soon. 28 minutes ago, BrickPrick said: I want to see the day when i can get a regular sized OT themed Falcon. An OT Falcon in 2027 for the 50th anniversary of A New Hope would make a lot of sense, I imagine it would end up having a shelf life at least as long as the EP IX version. Quote
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