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2 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I liked when they were doing those $20 duel sets. They could remake the Yoda vs Count Dooku duel from 2002, Obi Wan vs Darth Vader ANH, etc.

They had a good run of those under £30 location sets. We had Yodas hut, obi wans house, Luke’s house, final duel from TFA, the duel on Naboo, bespin freezing chamber, even dark trooper attack. There is a lot of potential for these kind of sets and to get so many desirable characters in them

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12 minutes ago, Llewop said:

They had a good run of those under £30 location sets. We had Yodas hut, obi wans house, Luke’s house, final duel from TFA, the duel on Naboo, bespin freezing chamber, even dark trooper attack. There is a lot of potential for these kind of sets and to get so many desirable characters in them

Yeah that type of set doesn't even exist anymore, pretty sad.

Posted
Just now, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah that type of set doesn't even exist anymore, pretty sad.

I know they turned them in to the dioramas. Extra details but 3x the price, I’d rather cheap and some good figures 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Llewop said:

I know they turned them in to the dioramas. Extra details but 3x the price, I’d rather cheap and some good figures 

Lego could do both like they did with Jango's ship. One for the kids and one for the adults as an cheaper MBS-set like the starship collection is a cheaper UCS version.

Posted
15 minutes ago, TheScaryDoor said:

Lego could do both like they did with Jango's ship. One for the kids and one for the adults as an cheaper MBS-set like the starship collection is a cheaper UCS version.

I still don't understand why they don't space these out. What's the tactical advantage of competing with yourself?

Posted (edited)
55 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I still don't understand why they don't space these out. What's the tactical advantage of competing with yourself?

I guess Lego's goal is to get more customers by offering the same or similar set in a different format for different customer groups. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I still don't understand why they don't space these out. What's the tactical advantage of competing with yourself?

I've always said Lego is the best company in the world at competing with itself. So many interesting kits, can't get every one of them. But I do think it makes sense to release playscale and UCS versions of the same subject at the same time. It's not like they haven't done that many times before.

Posted
1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I still don't understand why they don't space these out. What's the tactical advantage of competing with yourself?

I’d say not many people have the budget for UCS sets, and more than likely the summer one will sell well. I don’t want the UCS one but I’ll pick up the one in the summer. Also aren’t the UCS sets marketed as 18+ sets and system scale sets at different age scales? It does give children Lego’s previous main target audience a chance to get a slave 1 with a jango and boba. I personally hope they do keep doing it.

In the past few years we’ve had a UCS tie interceptor and UCS x wing on the shelves even the UCS gunship was still being sold in shops at the same time as system scale equivalents. 

they do compete with themselves which is why i think their shift towards the adult market will eventually be their downfall. 
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Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm talking about the playset, not the UCS set. Hence why I said it was smaller than half their starfighters.

Agree that the Slave 1 is downsized to a damaging extent. The Star Destroyer is another one. The 2014 one was a great size. I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders. Hopefully the high regarded 2020 AT-AT is proof to LEGO that a new one should not be downsized.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Something_Awesome said:

Agree that the Slave 1 is downsized to a damaging extent. The Star Destroyer is another one. The 2014 one was a great size. I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders. Hopefully the high regarded 2020 AT-AT is proof to LEGO that a new one should not be downsized.

I love the new star destroyer, I am hoping for another downsize with the starship line even, but I thought the current star destroyer is excellent and maybe the best playset of last year.  I do share the concerns on the AT-AT, keeping that larger helps with setting up battle scenes. 

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14 hours ago, Brickadeer said:

I wonder why Lego makes no UCS models of the CTT and the MTT.

One step at a time. It's not been long ago Lego even made UCS prequel sets again. While there was Obi-Wan's Delta-7 Starfighter in 2010, they only really got started in 2021 with the UCS Gunship. Since then, you got another PT set every two years. So i think it just needs more time. 

10 hours ago, Llewop said:

I’d argue we need Lego to focus on making cheaper sets more at the £22 point lol.

Yes... period. 

10 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

By today’s pricing that would just be the size of the 2010 Turbo Tank 💀.

Agreed. Small speeders, locations and duels need to make a return.

I don't know if this is more sad or funny... just that it's true. 

This so much. 

9 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I liked when they were doing those $20 duel sets. They could remake the Yoda vs Count Dooku duel from 2002, Obi Wan vs Darth Vader ANH, etc.

You even got two possible options with Yoda and Yaddle to bring back Dooku at last. Of course, the ship already sailed on the latter. So it's down to one option. Actually, make it two again with a duel set between Anakin Vs. Count based on Episode III. Or even three possible sets because this could easily be part of the Diorama Collection as well. If only there was a fitting anniversary to commemorate all this right about now.

6 hours ago, Llewop said:

They had a good run of those under £30 location sets. We had Yodas hut, obi wans house, Luke’s house, final duel from TFA, the duel on Naboo, bespin freezing chamber, even dark trooper attack. There is a lot of potential for these kind of sets and to get so many desirable characters in them

And what do we get now in this price range? Looking at this year, another so-called "4+" set, an overpriced Jedi Starfighter and Super Battle Pack. :sceptic:

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

Yeah that type of set doesn't even exist anymore, pretty sad.

It is. Even though it probably wouldn't be the exact price point anymore, the format needs to return. But why would they care to do some actual smaller sets, if they could just sell you even more clones in a bigger Battle Pack, which probably makes them much more money with less effort put into it?

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2 hours ago, BrickPrick said:

But why would they care to do some actual smaller sets, if they could just sell you even more clones in a bigger Battle Pack, which probably makes them much more money with less effort put into it?

I think there's a big market for sets in the $25-$40 price range especially for kids. I can't imagine the 327th set selling as much as the clone vs droid BP from last year.

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Day #45. (Also on a side note, I have been spoiled so far with good TV content this year between Invincible S3 and Andor S2)

 

6 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I can't imagine the 327th set selling as much as the clone vs droid BP from last year.

Yeah. Mostly because they’re basically the same set.

10 hours ago, Something_Awesome said:


I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders.

I have a feeling you should be afraid.

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The incessant need to make Clone battle packs is a little nauseating at the moment, I wish they did a Chima like wave, where we could get a few factions at a good price point.

I would love to see a return to the play set scenes, perhaps they should take a leaf out of the Harry Potter approach (number of sets that make up a building/scene).  Lego could tap into some of the moments (Genosis Arena, Endor, Mos Eisley, etc...) and sell a few sets for each to build out scenes, it may work for technique and budgets.

With the scaling (downsizing) of sets, I'd be somewhat OK with it if we got better minifigures and build techniques than before, unfortunately we don't these days, I fear for an updated AT-AT with the current modus operandi.  

Minifigs have gotten progressively worse, I think the change to the Clone helmets was an unnecessary change and the lack of fabric for kama's is not really acceptable at current prices, worse when you consider that other sets (looking at you Lisa Simpson) just released and in the recent past are still getting them.

I'd happily work with the designers at SW Lego to help bridge the gaps that exist now, which didn't in the past... 😉

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Typo.
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18 hours ago, Llewop said:

They had a good run of those under £30 location sets. We had Yodas hut, obi wans house, Luke’s house, final duel from TFA, the duel on Naboo, bespin freezing chamber, even dark trooper attack. There is a lot of potential for these kind of sets and to get so many desirable characters in them

Yes, one thing we’ve really been missing lately is that <£50 range of sets. You also had Vader’s transformation and the Hoth Medical bay. 

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Posted
17 hours ago, Something_Awesome said:

Agree that the Slave 1 is downsized to a damaging extent. The Star Destroyer is another one. The 2014 one was a great size. I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders. Hopefully the high regarded 2020 AT-AT is proof to LEGO that a new one should not be downsized.

I don't think the extent of downsizing these two ships in particular is even remotely comparable. Slave 1 is supposed to be a big vehicle, so to scale it down to Starfighter size ain't gonna cut it. While the Imperial Star Destroyer is supposed to be large as well, the newest version is still fairly big. Smaller than the last one for sure, but unlike Slave 1 is not Midi-scale now. 

12 hours ago, Darth_Bane13 said:

I think there's a big market for sets in the $25-$40 price range especially for kids. I can't imagine the 327th set selling as much as the clone vs droid BP from last year.

Yes, there is a considerable market for these sets. Only Lego needs to act accordingly to meet the demand again. 

I really hope you are right on this one. Getting two Battle Packs in one for the old price was actually an unusually great deal last year. But now paying much more (50% price increase in the US) for getting less (two B1s got chopped) the corporate greed is on full display again.

Posted
38 minutes ago, Skiffle said:

New Razor Crest is coming

Well, I mean, sure, yeah, we all expect a new Razor Crest set to tie in with the Mando movie. Lego would be stupid not to make one. But I see no reason to take your word for it happening when this is your first post on Eurobricks and you don't seem to be moving over from an established account on any other platform.

Posted
6 minutes ago, icm said:

But I see no reason to take your word for it happening when this is your first post on Eurobricks and you don't seem to be moving over from an established account on any other platform.

Trust takes time to build. No one had it from the beginning.

Posted
32 minutes ago, BrickPrick said:

I don't think the extent of downsizing these two ships in particular is even remotely comparable. Slave 1 is supposed to be a big vehicle, so to scale it down to Starfighter size ain't gonna cut it....Smaller than the last one for sure, but unlike Slave 1 is not Midi-scale now. 

I agree that there's something that just feels wrong with these new two downsized Slave I sets, and it puts me off them.

It's odd though because plenty of other ships are massively downsized too and don't make me feel the same way, like Ahsoka's T6 or the Bad Batch shuttle. Those aren't spectacular sets by any means, but they just don't feel quite as wrong as the Slave I.

Maybe it's that you can see the entire Minifigure sitting there in the cockpit, and that looks goofy, or it's that we got proper larger versions before and so these seem quite poor by comparison.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Clone OPatra said:

I agree that there's something that just feels wrong with these new two downsized Slave I sets, and it puts me off them.

It's odd though because plenty of other ships are massively downsized too and don't make me feel the same way, like Ahsoka's T6 or the Bad Batch shuttle. Those aren't spectacular sets by any means, but they just don't feel quite as wrong as the Slave I.

Maybe it's that you can see the entire Minifigure sitting there in the cockpit, and that looks goofy, or it's that we got proper larger versions before and so these seem quite poor by comparison.

Yep, same here. I don't mind any downsized ships in the past couple of years, but the Slave 1 just hits different. Besides basically downgrading it's scale from big to medium, i still wonder why. Simply put, other ships might still work just fine with the new size, while the Slave 1 is... too much. And like you said we are used to so many other iterations which did the scale much more justice than the newest two versions. 

But yeah, at the end of the day, i have to go through with it for the usual discounts. Have been wanting a Jango Fett minifig for the longest time. I don't wanna rely on Lego to do a Microfighter anytime soon. Plus the inclusion of Lama Su makes the deal more attractive to me. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Skiffle said:

Trust takes time to build. No one had it from the beginning.

True!

Posted (edited)

 

Re: everyone saying it makes sense that lego's putting multiple price points for the same set out at the same time:

Sure, but what do they gain from this that they wouldn't from just releasing a different set? It's not like there's a shortage of vehicles people want in this franchise. You have to admit there's SOME percentage of people who don't want to buy multiple versions of the same vehicle- even at different price points- so unless there's a percentage of people who are ONLY buying both BECAUSE they're coming out at nearly the same time, it doesn't really make sense for lego to do this. 

People are bringing up previous UCS sets, and I'll just point out- The TIE and X-wing both came in two-packs with other vehicles, with completely different figure setups between them. The Republic Gunship a recolor (again with a completely different figure setup), came two full years later, and is a direct part of the clone frenzy, coming with a new legion. Neither of these seem all that similar to lego releasing the exact same ship in the exact same color scheme as a straight downscale with 2/3 of the exact same figures.

22 hours ago, Something_Awesome said:

Agree that the Slave 1 is downsized to a damaging extent. The Star Destroyer is another one. The 2014 one was a great size. I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders. Hopefully the high regarded 2020 AT-AT is proof to LEGO that a new one should not be downsized.

The star destroyer doesn't really bother me, but the Slave One one is egregious. 

I don't think they'll downsize the AT-AT much, if at all. No clones to spend all the budget on.

10 hours ago, Darth Malgus said:

The incessant need to make Clone battle packs is a little nauseating at the moment, I wish they did a Chima like wave, where we could get a few factions at a good price point.

There have to be dimishing returns on this at a certain point, right? We can't be more than a few years away from massive clone armies selling for pennies on the dollar on ebay.

5 hours ago, Skiffle said:

New Razor Crest is coming

No offense, but of course a new Razor Crest is coming. I'm not saying you're for sure fake, but I am pointing out that nobody should take this as evidence that you're legit when you make your next leaks. could give people more info about the next year than this.

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On 6/7/2025 at 3:26 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm talking about the playset, not the UCS set. Hence why I said it was smaller than half their starfighters.

Ahhh, the playset. Well, most of the starfighers are minifig scale. I assume you mean 75301 sized starfighter sets.

23 hours ago, Something_Awesome said:

Agree that the Slave 1 is downsized to a damaging extent. The Star Destroyer is another one. The 2014 one was a great size. I am concerned about the next playscale AT-AT. A new one may be even more disproportioned to snow speeders. Hopefully the high regarded 2020 AT-AT is proof to LEGO that a new one should not be downsized.

75252 and 75394, one is UCS, the other not. Same goes for the 75313, is UCS and minifig scale. 75288, is way cheaper and more kid friendly, than 75313.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Neither of these seem all that similar to lego releasing the exact same ship in the exact same color scheme as a straight downscale with 2/3 of the exact same figures.

This year is the 20 years anniversary of Revenge of thr Sith. The movie was also shown again in the cinema. For me it makes sense that Lego release Jango's ship for the adults and also for the kids in this year. It fits the triology, it is partially a rerelease of the old UCS Slave 1 as an updated version from Jango instead from Boba. And Lego already have the playscale version and just need to recolour this. Which I think is a cheapter production process than creating an new set.

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