Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[Swordy]

7 hours ago, hikouki said:

Just saw FF4: First Steps on Disney+. Loved it!

Same here! Just finished not twenty minutes ago.

I’m in love with the movie, and I don’t care what anyone says right now! (Although please do reply because I’d love to discuss regardless.) Sixties-era space age is my absolute jam, so seeing the FF in that setting was delightful. As for the characters, I will admit the movie didn’t make me love any particular member more than I already did—nor did it lessen my love for them already, to be fair. Human Torch remains my person favourite (our common love for space did help endear me to him), and Thing is always fun. I don’t have much to give on Sue. I felt Reed was fine; he’s written better than he’s acted, I say.
I’m pleasantly surprised how well Silver Surfer was handled too. I never was and still am not a fan of the gender swap, but that swap did give Johnny a motivation for his role, so I can see why it worked for this movie. Nonetheless, if you’re going to adapt the 60s comics, then why not adapt them as close as possible? Which leads me into my other issue with the movie: the lack of Alicia Summers is a sore loss. I do not care for this “Rachel whatever;” unfortunately. While I see the argument that person should be able to fall in love with Ben regardless of looks, Alicia’s display of compassion to both Thing and Silver Surfer could’ve been kept. The original comics have Surfer’s turn less out of well-timed guilt and more of empathy. The tie-in with Johnny’s arc made for a tighter story, perhaps, but then why have Ben conversing with Rachel at all, or visit that mosque(?) for Hanukah, other than world building? Mind you, the movie already does an excellent job at tying it’s world-building into the plot, so that dangling thread makes me wish for more. I like the obvious parallel between Sue and Shalla, and I wish that had been brought up.
Music is swelling. The sci-fi aspects were wonderful—placed alongside the fantastical elements made it even better. The edit was both truncated but somehow natural. The effects were great, aside from that baby. The movie had the exact same tone as the D23 teaser, for which I fell head over heels. What can I say? I think the movie was fantastic.

Oh, I know I shouldn’t have gotten giddy over the post-credit, but alas, I very much did.

 

As for sets, a Baxter Building, Fantasticar, and Herbie would sure be nice. That said,  I think I’m okay with the characters we have so far from the movie. The only movie-based figure I’d want would be baby Frank, and I have to guess that isn’t hard to do with already-available pieces. I rather have Silver Surfer and flamed-on Human Torch as seen in Silver Age comics, and I suspect/copium-induced hope for a partially-invisible MCU Invisible Woman and stretchy-armed Stretch in Doomsday sets.

[hikouki]

4 minutes ago, Swordy said:

Same here! Just finished not twenty minutes ago.

I’m in love with the movie, and I don’t care what anyone says right now! (Although please do reply because I’d love to discuss regardless.) Sixties-era space age is my absolute jam, so seeing the FF in that setting was delightful. As for the characters, I will admit the movie didn’t make me love any particular member more than I already did—nor did it lessen my love for them already, to be fair. Human Torch remains my person favourite (our common love for space did help endear me to him), and Thing is always fun. I don’t have much to give on Sue. I felt Reed was fine; he’s written better than he’s acted, I say.
I’m pleasantly surprised how well Silver Surfer was handled too. I never was and still am not a fan of the gender swap, but that swap did give Johnny a motivation for his role, so I can see why it worked for this movie. Nonetheless, if you’re going to adapt the 60s comics, then why not adapt them as close as possible? Which leads me into my other issue with the movie: the lack of Alicia Summers is a sore loss. I do not care for this “Rachel whatever;” unfortunately. While I see the argument that person should be able to fall in love with Ben regardless of looks, Alicia’s display of compassion to both Thing and Silver Surfer could’ve been kept. The original comics have Surfer’s turn less out of well-timed guilt and more of empathy. The tie-in with Johnny’s arc made for a tighter story, perhaps, but then why have Ben conversing with Rachel at all, or visit that mosque(?) for Hanukah, other than world building? Mind you, the movie already does an excellent job at tying it’s world-building into the plot, so that dangling thread makes me wish for more. I like the obvious parallel between Sue and Shalla, and I wish that had been brought up.
Music is swelling. The sci-fi aspects were wonderful—placed alongside the fantastical elements made it even better. The edit was both truncated but somehow natural. The effects were great, aside from that baby. The movie had the exact same tone as the D23 teaser, for which I fell head over heels. What can I say? I think the movie was fantastic.

Oh, I know I shouldn’t have gotten giddy over the post-credit, but alas, I very much did.

 

As for sets, a Baxter Building, Fantasticar, and Herbie would sure be nice. That said,  I think I’m okay with the characters we have so far from the movie. The only movie-based figure I’d want would be baby Frank, and I have to guess that isn’t hard to do with already-available pieces. I rather have Silver Surfer and flamed-on Human Torch as seen in Silver Age comics, and I suspect/copium-induced hope for a partially-invisible MCU Invisible Woman and stretchy-armed Stretch in Doomsday sets.

I grew up in the 80s watching those classic Marvel cartoons such as Thor, Namor, and of course FF4! Miss those days!

[BoyLego]

I also rewatched it last night and still love it. It wears its comic bookishness on its sleeve and doesn’t try to be too grounded like a lot of mcu films (not that I’m an mcu hater like some on this forum).

On the rewatch the Minifig Ben made a lot more sense to me, some kind of shoulder piece like for the new rhino fig would have been nice but he kinda works as is.

My biggest complaint is still the lack of dual molded legs for all of the figures. I was hoping we might get some in the right colours for that new animal costume cmf but no luck sadly.

[hikouki]

6 hours ago, BoyLego said:

I also rewatched it last night and still love it. It wears its comic bookishness on its sleeve and doesn’t try to be too grounded like a lot of mcu films (not that I’m an mcu hater like some on this forum).

On the rewatch the Minifig Ben made a lot more sense to me, some kind of shoulder piece like for the new rhino fig would have been nice but he kinda works as is.

My biggest complaint is still the lack of dual molded legs for all of the figures. I was hoping we might get some in the right colours for that new animal costume cmf but no luck sadly.

Not ashamed to admit that I hate the tackiness of MCU.

Knowing Lego, they probably are reserving the dual-molded legs for a future set so it will be a chase part. LOL

[Mandalorianknight]

13 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

And honestly speaking, the X-Men brand hasn't been all that strong since the 90s/2000s. Even in the comics, the Avengers started to eclipse the X-Men in popularity years before the MCU and the whole Fox movie rights issues. The only X-Men movie that ever made a billion was Deadpool & Wolverine, which shows that it's these two specific characters who are the moneymakers rather than the team as a whole. Lego assuming anything with an X-Men brand would instantly sell was a mistake. They've made a similar mistake with the FF set. They assumed that because fans have been asking for the FF and Galactus for years, that they could make an overpriced set with barebones figures and little to no accessories, let alone a Fantasticar, and it would be an instant seller. I'd love to see sales figures for that set because I have a strong inkling it's probably also failed to catch on.

I had to look that up and I guess that is a real thing now. No wonder Ultimate Spider-Man was selling better than Amazing Spider-Man lol.

Uncle Ben would probably be made up of completely reused parts anyway, so his lack of minifig doesn't bother me. Captain Stacy's also mostly known for his death but he did last longer in the comics, and appeared in at least two movies, only dying in one of them (ASM) so I can see why they didn't mind including him. Especially being a police officer, he's easy to integrate in a set. It's pretty telling that we could get Captain Stacy but not his daughter in her classic 616 incarnation to this day. I agree, I doubt we'll ever get Richard Parker. I think Mayday/Spider-Girl could one day get get a minifig and I'm a little surprised we haven't gotten her already. Technically we have her baby form in the Spider-Verse CMF but it's strange that they've never made a proper Spider-Girl minifig considering how popular she was in her prime and how for the longest period, she was the female Marvel character with the longest ongoing solo title.

Norman Osborn isn't a redhead though but the Insomniac version is, and the Lego minifig took a hairstyle heavily modeled off his depiction there. He's even got a black striped suit in the game so I think the implication was that they were using that version since he looks nothing like the Raimi version or the comic version. And we've seen how they've pictured the comic version of Norman in the Daily Bugle billboards so there's precedent for what a comic version of Norman could look like in minifigure form. With Spider-Man, Lego seems comfortable drawing from whatever popular sources of media there are, hence why we can get a set with an Ultimate Green Goblin, an Insomniac Norman, while using modern characters like Spider-Gwen and Miles and having a separate CMF series modeled on the Spider-Verse movies. 

Yup. They thought the characters would be enough to get people to buy subpar sets at crazy prices, and that's simply not the case sometimes. 

Honestly I don't mind the idea of a redeemed Norman funding spider-man as a way to atone for his sins (Though I'd really prefer Goblin be a mental condition or just Norman being uninhibited rather than a demonic spirit or whatever it ended up being), but that might in part be just because the ASM runs have been "how much can we kick peter while he's down" so giving him this one win feels better than it might actually be. Like when everyone got hyped about him telling MJ her and venom deserve eachother instead of trying to win her back and getting rejected again- it's not really a "win", but it was an opportunity for the writers to make his life more miserable that they didn't take, which at this point might as well be a win.

Oh, no, yeah, I don't necessarily want an uncle ben figure either. Mayday would be nice at some point, perhaps in a spider-man modular building where various experiments that could open portals to other timelines occur...

You had me thinking I'd gaslit myself into thinking he was for a second there, but I checked and he has been a redhead in plenty of stuff. Willem Dafoe has reddish hair, various points in the comics have depicted him as a redhead, and some of the cartoons like Spectacular and Ultimate. The black striped suit I would think was just a re-use, especially because his more iconic suit in that game is a dark green suit with a yellow vest.

12 hours ago, Swordy said:

Same here! Just finished not twenty minutes ago.

I’m in love with the movie, and I don’t care what anyone says right now! (Although please do reply because I’d love to discuss regardless.) Sixties-era space age is my absolute jam, so seeing the FF in that setting was delightful. As for the characters, I will admit the movie didn’t make me love any particular member more than I already did—nor did it lessen my love for them already, to be fair. Human Torch remains my person favourite (our common love for space did help endear me to him), and Thing is always fun. I don’t have much to give on Sue. I felt Reed was fine; he’s written better than he’s acted, I say.
I’m pleasantly surprised how well Silver Surfer was handled too. I never was and still am not a fan of the gender swap, but that swap did give Johnny a motivation for his role, so I can see why it worked for this movie. Nonetheless, if you’re going to adapt the 60s comics, then why not adapt them as close as possible? Which leads me into my other issue with the movie: the lack of Alicia Summers is a sore loss. I do not care for this “Rachel whatever;” unfortunately. While I see the argument that person should be able to fall in love with Ben regardless of looks, Alicia’s display of compassion to both Thing and Silver Surfer could’ve been kept. The original comics have Surfer’s turn less out of well-timed guilt and more of empathy. The tie-in with Johnny’s arc made for a tighter story, perhaps, but then why have Ben conversing with Rachel at all, or visit that mosque(?) for Hanukah, other than world building? Mind you, the movie already does an excellent job at tying it’s world-building into the plot, so that dangling thread makes me wish for more. I like the obvious parallel between Sue and Shalla, and I wish that had been brought up.
Music is swelling. The sci-fi aspects were wonderful—placed alongside the fantastical elements made it even better. The edit was both truncated but somehow natural. The effects were great, aside from that baby. The movie had the exact same tone as the D23 teaser, for which I fell head over heels. What can I say? I think the movie was fantastic.

Oh, I know I shouldn’t have gotten giddy over the post-credit, but alas, I very much did.

I liked it at first, but the more time that's gone by and especially as other forum members have pointed things out to me, I think it was just that it wasn't terrible like I expected it to be. It's still not a great adaption of the F4, though I'd probably put it as the best movie adaption.

Completely agree on all the characters. Thing and Johnny were pretty similar to how they should be- I will never get over the fact that they made press statements about "modernizing" Johnny and he's just the exact same Johnny in the movie. Sue was a good character who had a solid story, but she didn't feel like Sue's personality, and as much as I wanted to chalk that up to the gravity of the situation, it's not like the F4 aren't constantly saving the world. Reed was my least favorite, I agree that he's written well but Pedro Pascal just isn't a good Reed Richards. 

Surfer is one thing I do maintain the movie did well, and like you say, a rare example of the gender swap actually meaning something for what it adds to Johnny and Sue's arcs. I still want the main surfer to be Norrin, but I'm OK with this alternate universe one being a woman. (I will also need a joke in doomsday/secret wars where Johnny hears that surfer is coming, and then when Surfer lands and it's Norrin Johnny's bummed out. But rumor is he and Ben get benched with half the Thunderbolts so Reed and Sue can go join the Samvengers for the main story....)

This may have been pointed out to me before and then I forgot it in the interim, but when I watched the movie I totally thought that WAS Alicia and they'd just butchered the character. I remember thinking it was really odd that she could see. I assume this Rachel character was added because the writers were trying to show that they know Ben is Jewish in the comics without actually making him Jewish in the movie, for some reason. Like he shows up to the (synagogue, not mosque), but he's just kind of there to see Rachel, not to practice his faith. The only reason I can think for them cutting Alicia in the first place is that in this world nobody's freaked out by how Thing looks, but while you lose an aspect of how they first meet, it's not like they were only together because most people were freaked out by Thing's appearance.

8 hours ago, BoyLego said:

On the rewatch the Minifig Ben made a lot more sense to me, some kind of shoulder piece like for the new rhino fig would have been nice but he kinda works as is.

Rhino's shoulder/helmet is actually one piece, the same as from a few years back in that one 4+ set. But they still could have printed 78643 with the top of the F4 torso if the budget for those figures wasn't a total of one new mold and literally just 3 prints.

Edited 4 hours ago by Mandalorianknight