kuzyabricks Posted August 4 Posted August 4 16 hours ago, Blazej_Holen said: Barad Dur was already in the making when Rivendell was released… Bag End is huge miss, because of its poor design and huge price (for what it is). Black Pearl with around 2,9k pieces for almost $400 will probably not sell well enough. Depends on the overall design and willingness of AFOLs to do TLGs biding… I cant justify this expensive even for myslef no matter what. Dutchman is far more bugger than Black Pearl, so would be what… $500 set? $600 set? Thats is just insane, and we are just speculating… I think that this is one off. And probably it should be one off. Yes I know that. Dutchman is also probably in the making. This will sell I am certain. Potc sets sell constantly on eBay for much higher prices for much poorer ship designs Quote
Admiral Bejaune Posted August 4 Posted August 4 16 minutes ago, kuzyabricks said: Yes I know that. Dutchman is also probably in the making. This will sell I am certain. Potc sets sell constantly on eBay for much higher prices for much poorer ship designs I would love to see it, but there probably won’t be a Dutchman Quote
thewatchman Posted August 4 Posted August 4 So we have the aft of the ship that’s cool. But it doesn’t really look a lot like the ship its based on. The one thing I’m really not overly excited about is the twist knobs on the back that obviously open the cannon ports and push the cannon ends out. That internal technic structure will take up a LOT of space. Quote
Admiral Bejaune Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thewatchman said: So we have the aft of the ship that’s cool. But it doesn’t really look a lot like the ship its based on. The one thing I’m really not overly excited about is the twist knobs on the back that obviously open the cannon ports and push the cannon ends out. That internal technic structure will take up a LOT of space. That image looks like it’s squeezed. Or compressed. I think that’s distorting the stern a bit. If you take that out it looks like a decent pearl. She looks like she’s what, 16 studs wide? Typo Edited August 4 by Admiral Bejaune Quote
thewatchman Posted August 4 Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Admiral Bejaune said: That image looks like it’s squeezed. Or compressed. I think that’s distorting the stern a bit. If you take that out it looks like a decent pearl. She looks like she’s what, 16 studs wide? Typo 16 at the widest point, 14 by the time the gun ports are introduced. Which means it’s probably very unlikely we are getting lower decks. Quote
Admiral Bejaune Posted August 4 Posted August 4 9 minutes ago, thewatchman said: 16 at the widest point, 14 by the time the gun ports are introduced. Which means it’s probably very unlikely we are getting lower decks. I agree, no decks below Quote
Quotenotto Posted August 4 Posted August 4 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Admiral Bejaune said: That image looks like it’s squeezed. Or compressed. I think that’s distorting the stern a bit. If you take that out it looks like a decent pearl. She looks like she’s what, 16 studs wide? Typo I don’t think that image is extremely distorted. Overall I like this model, but the normal hull pieces have the same width from stem to stern. The pearl as all ships of that period get gradually thinner towards the back at the waterline while the maindeck for the most part stays the same. That makes the angle of the hull steeper towards the stern. Unfortunatly that’s impossible to recreate when using a hull part that retains its width over the whole waterline. TLGs solution was to have a less steeper angle at the stern. That way we get a pearl with „a lot of booty“. Edit: Grammar mistake Edited August 4 by Quotenotto Quote
Tobiasz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 I don't like the strange side attachment of the sails like in Imperial Flagship - no "blowing effect" Quote
thewatchman Posted August 4 Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Tobiasz said: I don't like the strange side attachment of the sails like in Imperial Flagship - no "blowing effect" The top of the sails on the aft picture has the top beams brick built, which is rather ugly too. Quote
Quotenotto Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, Tobiasz said: I don't like the strange side attachment of the sails like in Imperial Flagship - no "blowing effect" At least the sail plan is accurate, but they seem to use the same pieces for both masts an the mizzen mast topsail (they are flipped so that the wholes in the sails are on different sides). They should be smaller on the fore and mizzen mast. The main staysail has the wrong shape, it should have four corners and not three, but they just reused the foremast staysail. I can’t tell from the pictures if they use the same piece for the mizzen Mast sail. The space between foremast and mainmast is also a bit to short. The backshot confirms that the part below the waterline is build upside down. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 hour ago, kuzyabricks said: Yes I know that. Dutchman is also probably in the making. This will sell I am certain. Potc sets sell constantly on eBay for much higher prices for much poorer ship designs Fingers crossed for you to get your Dutchman set in the end… I am not that big fan of this, since it will be expensive as hell and seeing the Pearl, I am not convinced about the quality matching the price… Quote
F1stzz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 Exposed studs on the beams & on the rear of cabin don't scream "$380" awful lot, but is fixable. What I like in what I'm seeing is how distinguishable the lower extended part is from the main hull, and the way it looks tells me said waterline extension might as well be just a part of the stand itself – that's a relief of sorts for me Gotta say: I like the arrangement of the cabin itself more on MOC Your Bricks model, but the hull shape, at least from the back (we'll see what it looks like from the side), seems to be superior on TLG's design. There are things that will certainly need to be modded, but it's all about the wicked wench price tag – in an approximately $380 set (which will totally end up being $400+ in various countries) it doesn't feel right to keep spending on modding, be it tiling up the exposed studs or remaking exterior (where are the signature mini-statues as a part of cabin's exterior, btw?) etc. Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 hour ago, F1stzz said: Exposed studs on the beams & on the rear of cabin don't scream "$380" awful lot, but is fixable. What I like in what I'm seeing is how distinguishable the lower extended part is from the main hull, and the way it looks tells me said waterline extension might as well be just a part of the stand itself – that's a relief of sorts for me Gotta say: I like the arrangement of the cabin itself more on MOC Your Bricks model, but the hull shape, at least from the back (we'll see what it looks like from the side), seems to be superior on TLG's design. There are things that will certainly need to be modded, but it's all about the wicked wench price tag – in an approximately $380 set (which will totally end up being $400+ in various countries) it doesn't feel right to keep spending on modding, be it tiling up the exposed studs or remaking exterior (where are the signature mini-statues as a part of cabin's exterior, btw?) etc. The price is too high but there's nothing wrong with visible studs, it's Lego after all. Why try to hide it? Quote
F1stzz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 5 minutes ago, SpacePolice89 said: The price is too high but there's nothing wrong with visible studs, it's Lego after all. Why try to hide it? Because it's not the 80-90s anymore to have brick-built beams & studs exposed + just in general people sometimes love to have a clean looking display piece? This isn't a $100 Creator play set we're talking about here. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 hour ago, F1stzz said: Because it's not the 80-90s anymore to have brick-built beams & studs exposed + just in general people sometimes love to have a clean looking display piece? This isn't a $100 Creator play set we're talking about here. Still its Lego. So it should be looking like Lego. 4 hours ago, Admiral Bejaune said: I agree, no decks below Maybe this “function” is all about the rudder hm? But also there is just something on the gunports that tells me that they are probably part of the function as well… Quote
F1stzz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 hour ago, Blazej_Holen said: Still its Lego. So it should be looking like Lego. It still looks like LEGO with the studs tiled up, what are we talking about? Anyway, I highly recommend everyone checking out the r/LEGOPirates and looking through the recent dedicated thread – Mr. JamesWilliamFlint has adjusted the image in Photoshop to make it more proportionate and straightened it out, so the stern of the ship wouldn't appear distorted. Under this new lens the aft does look less beefy & more in line with how it was in the movie. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 hour ago, F1stzz said: It still looks like LEGO with the studs tiled up, what are we talking about? Anyway, I highly recommend everyone checking out the r/LEGOPirates and looking through the recent dedicated thread – Mr. JamesWilliamFlint has adjusted the image in Photoshop to make it more proportionate and straightened it out, so the stern of the ship wouldn't appear distorted. Under this new lens the aft does look less beefy & more in line with how it was in the movie. That was just reaction to the 80-90s rant… ;) Quote
Hook Posted August 4 Posted August 4 There's something I still don't quite understand... Did Lego announced that it will increase the price of the Black Pearl to 380$...? Quote
F1stzz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 33 minutes ago, Blazej_Holen said: That was just reaction to the 80-90s rant… ;) I mean, it literally is a technique taken straight from that time period. Some may find it cute, I personally don't believe it belongs in such an expensive display (!) set. 20 minutes ago, Hook said: Did Lego announced that it will increase the price of the Black Pearl to 380$...? Nothing has been officially announced by TLG in regards of this set just yet. Quote
Admiral Bejaune Posted August 4 Posted August 4 18 minutes ago, F1stzz said: I mean, it literally is a technique taken straight from that time period. Some may find it cute, I personally don't believe it belongs in such an expensive display (!) set. I hope you don’t like Star Wars set then… Quote
F1stzz Posted August 4 Posted August 4 46 minutes ago, Admiral Bejaune said: I hope you don’t like Star Wars set then… Couldn't care less about that theme as a whole Quote
cehnot Posted August 5 Posted August 5 Are those new Black 2x2 thick mast bottoms? I do not know if the part already exists, but this would greatly improve the structure of pirate ship masts since they only have 32 stud long axles. My custom ship would be better if it had 40-44 inch axles. But, I wonder if these new parts would benefit all ship builders. Quote
Elephant Knight Posted August 5 Posted August 5 As a Canadian, I was already expecting a $440 price tag. The X-Mansion, according to what I can find, is $330 USD, and $440 CDN. stands to reason the Pearl Jack Sparrow's Pirate ship will be the same. I personally have no issue with the yard arms being studded, but using technic parts, like 10210 did, does look a lot nicer. I am probably in the minority in that I don't really care if the gun deck is finished or not. Would it be nice? Sure. I pretty much never detail the interior of my own ships, so I am not too bothered, other than when someone else does it, I have more ideas to steal from get inspired by when I do my own. If I ever do. The new rear image makes the sails look wider than the first, which is a good thing, I didn't think the looked wide enough at first. Which reminds me, I need to remake the sails on my own Pearl MOC. EKnight Quote
brickbride Posted August 5 Posted August 5 8 hours ago, Hook said: There's something I still don't quite understand... Did Lego announced that it will increase the price of the Black Pearl to 380$...? LEGO hasn't announced the price one way or the other. Originally leakers claimed it would be USD 400, then that number was changed to USD 330. Now maxbaut, a very well-known and reliable German leaker, claims that the US price has been changed to USD 380. Quote
kuzyabricks Posted August 5 Posted August 5 16 hours ago, Blazej_Holen said: Fingers crossed for you to get your Dutchman set in the end… I am not that big fan of this, since it will be expensive as hell and seeing the Pearl, I am not convinced about the quality matching the price… Thank you my friend! Maybe I never will get it but a Dutchman is my most wanted set ever. I don’t know if there is anything left for me to collect after it)) Quote
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