[OFFICIAL] LEGO Icons 10365 Captain Jack Sparrow's Pirate Ship

[DonQuixote]

5 minutes ago, Mordarch said:

 I think what I love most about this version of the Pearl and it's something some of MOC-builds don't alway get richt; It has the overal shape of the Black Pearl totally right. A lot of MOC's (the MOC Your Bricks one for instance, though I do love that version almost equally) tend to make the Pearl too flat. The LEGO one has the right curve to it, something I noticed when watching the films during building, and it's something I haven't seen many people talking about.

I have the MocYourBricks version and yes while it's beautiful, the overall shape of the ship is too flat as you mentioned. Today the Lego Pearl will be arriving and I cannot wait to compare both versions. The Lego version is shorter but more accurate. 

I love your picture.  The Barracuda remake still looks fantastic. 

The Durmstrang is also a beautiful ship.Really underrated.  Not a Harry Potter fan at all but I bought this at discount for €100 and now it serves as a Black Falcons ship. I replaced the sticker shields with Black Falcon shields.

[F1stzz]

3 hours ago, Mordarch said:

I spent the day yesterday building the Pearl and it was such a fun build, the repetitiveness of some parts wasn't too bad and it all adds up to such a gorgeous build. I think what I love most about this version of the Pearl and it's something some of MOC-builds don't alway get richt; It has the overal shape of the Black Pearl totally right. A lot of MOC's (the MOC Your Bricks one for instance, though I do love that version almost equally) tend to make the Pearl too flat. The LEGO one has the right curve to it, something I noticed when watching the films during building, and it's something I haven't seen many people talking about.

I did try to add some LEGO ropes I had in storage to the masts to keep them form angling too much forward, but I actually think it's not actually leaning that much, but the construction makes it seem so. The masts consist of separate parts that each are attached to the front of the previous one and with the sail it makes it look angled forward more than they actually are. I looked at my Queen Anne's revenge and besides having the mast be one straight piece, they build the yard arm a bit further outward from the mast the more you go down. This probably also helped with making the sails look wind-filled. The new sails also don't really have the curve built-in the fabric, which make sit bit harder to look filled.

I put it next to some of my other ships and I'm surprised how good it fits between them, though the Queen Anne's Revenge does kinda look pathetic next to it, it's definitely a build of the time.

I second pretty much every word  I've also seen someone post a comparison pic featuring the 10365 BP & QAR earlier – quite frankly, an almost complete absence of a defined forecastle does 4195 no favours, not to mention a non-existent upper deck. We truly are spoiled by the revolutionary design of 21322 Barracuda 

The part I'm the most happy about is indeed how accurately 10365 manages to recreate the silhouette of the Black Pearl while staying completely within your "bigger playset" type of scale (it's only a section longer than 2020 Barracuda & is pretty much identical in its hull length to the 10210 Imperial Flagship). You can easily mod in the ornamentation of various kinds, can add all the skylights, bells & whatever other whistles – but getting the hull shape, the silhouette right & make it as sleek & seamless as possible is no ordinary task, which Mike Psiaki's team has totally knocked outta park here 

[DonQuixote]

1 hour ago, F1stzz said:

 Mike Psiaki's team has totally knocked outta park here 

Now  I have 3  sets from him : Lion Knights Castle, Rivendell and now Black Pearl.  He is a mastermind. 

What other sets was he involved with?

I cannot imagine the Death Star is one of him.

[vizzitor]

53 minutes ago, DonQuixote said:

Now  I have 3  sets from him : Lion Knights Castle, Rivendell and now Black Pearl.  He is a mastermind. 

What other sets was he involved with?

I cannot imagine the Death Star is one of him.

Brickset has lists of sets by designer: https://brickset.com/bricklists/featured. I'm not sure when the Mike Psiaki one was last updated https://brickset.com/sets/list-9961

The Death Star is listed as under César Soares: https://brickset.com/sets/list-21078

[DonQuixote]

10 minutes ago, vizzitor said:

Brickset has lists of sets by designer: https://brickset.com/bricklists/featured. I'm not sure when the Mike Psiaki one was last updated https://brickset.com/sets/list-9961

The Death Star is listed as under César Soares: https://brickset.com/sets/list-21078

Ow he did Galaxy Explorer too? Nice! That's also  a great set from him.

Very underrated.  Bought that one at a discount for €80 in 2022.

It felt like stealing from Lego buying at that price. 

Such a shame it didn't do well. 

If it had a Starwars logo on it , Lego would sell it probably for €150 and it still would sell out.

[F1stzz]

1 hour ago, DonQuixote said:

Now  I have 3  sets from him : Lion Knights Castle, Rivendell and now Black Pearl.  He is a mastermind. 

What other sets was he involved with?

I cannot imagine the Death Star is one of him.

Titanic is also a crazy good entry from him, he truly has a unique feel on how to make some fine angles, sloping & shaping overall  If anything, I hope TLG keeps him assigned to PotC ships moving forward, the techniques are only gonna get better & in the case of the Flying Dutchman's front section crazy angle work will come in handy big time 

[kuzyabricks]

8 hours ago, Mordarch said:

I spent the day yesterday building the Pearl and it was such a fun build, the repetitiveness of some parts wasn't too bad and it all adds up to such a gorgeous build. I think what I love most about this version of the Pearl and it's something some of MOC-builds don't alway get richt; It has the overal shape of the Black Pearl totally right. A lot of MOC's (the MOC Your Bricks one for instance, though I do love that version almost equally) tend to make the Pearl too flat. The LEGO one has the right curve to it, something I noticed when watching the films during building, and it's something I haven't seen many people talking about.

I did try to add some LEGO ropes I had in storage to the masts to keep them form angling too much forward, but I actually think it's not actually leaning that much, but the construction makes it seem so. The masts consist of separate parts that each are attached to the front of the previous one and with the sail it makes it look angled forward more than they actually are. I looked at my Queen Anne's revenge and besides having the mast be one straight piece, they build the yard arm a bit further outward from the mast the more you go down. This probably also helped with making the sails look wind-filled. The new sails also don't really have the curve built-in the fabric, which make sit bit harder to look filled.

I put it next to some of my other ships and I'm surprised how good it fits between them, though the Queen Anne's Revenge does kinda look pathetic next to it, it's definitely a build of the time.

Highly recommend this rebrickable MOC for the QAR. Makes it a much better set and display piece. 

Just now, kuzyabricks said:

Highly recommend this rebrickable MOC for the QAR. Makes it a much better set and display piece. 

https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-166732/simone_ve84/queen-annes-revenge/#details

[F1stzz]

2011 Barbossa minifig with the new hairpiece, for anyone wondering 

[kuzyabricks]

8 hours ago, F1stzz said:

2011 Barbossa minifig with the new hairpiece, for anyone wondering 

I like it! But I feel like the old hat still fits that old figure style well enough. I actually prefer all the old figures. That 2010-2013 style of real life figures (LoTR,PoTC,Lone Ranger, Prince of Persia, HP) has that realism that I just loved. The new figures don't scratch that itch.

[Mordarch]

15 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Highly recommend this rebrickable MOC for the QAR. Makes it a much better set and display piece. 

https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-166732/simone_ve84/queen-annes-revenge/#details

I'm seriously considering it, it's a great looking upgrade.

3 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

I actually prefer all the old figures. That 2010-2013 style of real life figures

I think my main issue with the new figs is the neutral faces, they look bored, the older ones had more expressive ''neutral'' faces. I noticed it mainly with Barbossa and Gibbs, the more expressive alternate faces are better, unfortunately Barbossa's the cursed one, which limits it uses.

[kuzyabricks]

5 hours ago, Mordarch said:

I'm seriously considering it, it's a great looking upgrade.

I think my main issue with the new figs is the neutral faces, they look bored, the older ones had more expressive ''neutral'' faces. I noticed it mainly with Barbossa and Gibbs, the more expressive alternate faces are better, unfortunately Barbossa's the cursed one, which limits it uses.

I highly recommend! It's a solid 8.5/10 for me. To access the interior you have to take some things off the deck, and in my case the cabin doesn't always sit super flush but that could very well be a me issue  On display it is gorgeous and actually looks like a proper pirate ship unlike the original 4195! 

 

Agreed! Gibbs is the worst offender in my opinion, the old one is my third favorite figure of all time!

[eldiano]

10 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

I highly recommend! It's a solid 8.5/10 for me. To access the interior you have to take some things off the deck, and in my case the cabin doesn't always sit super flush but that could very well be a me issue  On display it is gorgeous and actually looks like a proper pirate ship unlike the original 4195! 

 

Agreed! Gibbs is the worst offender in my opinion, the old one is my third favorite figure of all time!

I completely regret selling my older POTC sets. I did it with the hype of Dead Men tell no tales, thinking they would release their older sets but instead we got the silent Mary. I wish I stocked up on red coats, captain’s cabin and the wooden jack sparrow. 

[lomis]

10 hours ago, eldiano said:

I completely regret selling my older POTC sets. I did it with the hype of Dead Men tell no tales, thinking they would release their older sets but instead we got the silent Mary. I wish I stocked up on red coats, captain’s cabin and the wooden jack sparrow. 

I'm actually on the opposite side of things...

I have the following MISB sets that I'm thinking of selling and just going with the new Black Pearl set:

• 4184: The Black Pearl
• 4193: The London Escape
• 4195: Queen Anne's Revenge
• 71042: Silent Mary

I bought the first three sets on the tail end of their sales, and even think 2/3 were discounted.
I just never got around to building them as I had other sets to build, didn't have the space, or had other things going on.

There's just a conflict in building these when I have some already terrific ships like 10210 Imperial Flagship and 1322 Pirates of Barracuda Bay and am drooling over the new Black Pearl.

[F1stzz]

Bricksie has done another nice close up comparison of 10365 & 21322 Barracuda 

[DonQuixote]

8 hours ago, F1stzz said:

Bricksie has done another nice close up comparison of 10365 & 21322 Barracuda 

Yes I saw it . I still prefer the Barracuda over the Pearl.Still building the Pearl .

[kuzyabricks]

18 hours ago, lomis said:

I'm actually on the opposite side of things...

I have the following MISB sets that I'm thinking of selling and just going with the new Black Pearl set:

• 4184: The Black Pearl
• 4193: The London Escape
• 4195: Queen Anne's Revenge
• 71042: Silent Mary

I bought the first three sets on the tail end of their sales, and even think 2/3 were discounted.
I just never got around to building them as I had other sets to build, didn't have the space, or had other things going on.

There's just a conflict in building these when I have some already terrific ships like 10210 Imperial Flagship and 1322 Pirates of Barracuda Bay and am drooling over the new Black Pearl.

Silent Mary is a fantastic ship. QAR can be modded into a better ship as I linked above, I would personally keep the Dutchman figures from the Pear. London escape is a childhood favorite of mine but that one isn’t as beloved as the others. I would personally keep most of these and build them. Gorgeous ships (apart from the old Pearl)

[lomis]

4 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Silent Mary is a fantastic ship. QAR can be modded into a better ship as I linked above, I would personally keep the Dutchman figures from the Pear. London escape is a childhood favorite of mine but that one isn’t as beloved as the others. I would personally keep most of these and build them. Gorgeous ships (apart from the old Pearl)

Good feedback.

I'm not really hung up on keeping minifigures for sets I don't build. So, maybe the original Black Pearl makes sense to get rid of.

A lot to consider...

[DonQuixote]

Was about to finish the Pearl this evening but I noticed I am missing a sail ( 6540117) I will contact Lego customer service tomorrow. 

[cehnot]

I have been working on a ship 12 studs longer to represent a better profile. I plan on making the upper deck cannons fit ubder the stairs and open the cabin up with my rope design i used on the barracuda. Somebody sent me a simplified technic design. I think the cabin windows needs to be 2 studs back. The stairs need to start 1 stud forward and the doors need to be pushed back 2 to 3 studs ubder the top. Ill try to refit my sunroof design into the top since i originally moddled it off the Black Pearl. 

Somebody sent me this reddit user who has been doing a similar idea. Reddit expansion

[DonQuixote]

17 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

Was about to finish the Pearl this evening but I noticed I am missing a sail ( 6540117) I will contact Lego customer service tomorrow. 

I called Lego customer  service 16u30 and she couldn't find the missing part number. After a half hour she hang up. Lego customer service is a disgrace. 

I will never buy Lego anymore! 

[GeoBrick]

3 hours ago, DonQuixote said:

I called Lego customer  service 16u30 and she couldn't find the missing part number. After a half hour she hang up. Lego customer service is a disgrace. 

I will never buy Lego anymore! 

I thought that for a missing part of a new set one could order a replacement through the site, without having to talk with an customer support employee?

That said, it is always possible that new parts (which the sails truly are) are not yet entered into the system's database, or simply not available yet.

In any case, you should be able to find the part number of that sail in the parts list of the instructions booklet.

[DonQuixote]

1 hour ago, GeoBrick said:

I thought that for a missing part of a new set one could order a replacement through the site, without having to talk with an customer support employee?

That said, it is always possible that new parts (which the sails truly are) are not yet entered into the system's database, or simply not available yet.

In any case, you should be able to find the part number of that sail in the parts list of the instructions booklet.

The sail was not listed in the systems database. That's the reason the operator could not find it. 

 

I am just stupid. 

Seems like the missing sail was sticking to another sail with the same shape exactly. Therefore I saw it as one sail and builded it as one sail. 

I wrote an apology to customer service but I find it still rude to hang up the phone after not saying something. 

Now about the ship :

I gave it a 9 but I will give it an 8 now. 

The design is superb and everything works perfect. 

But I do not like the rubber rigging.It does not look as good as depicted on pictures. 

I prefer the old skool pre moulded rigging like in Black Seas Barracuda remake. 

I also don't like it that the  triangle sails in the mid and end of the ship are flapping. They are not totally fixed.