CloneCommando99 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I refuse to believe that the clone bro youtubers make up a statistically relevant number of sales. Combined with their followers they might, but most of their followers don't have the income or space to sustain these sales. It worked fine when it was a few sets a year, but now that almost every playset this year is clone/clone wars based (And seriously, I've seen people say they're going to army build the $70 ARC-170. How. Why.), I can't imagine the clone bros will be able to keep up the pressure. What's unfortunate is that set dev times are too long for lego to fix this in 2026, so we just have to hope they already have TMAG stuff in the works or something if we want to escape a second year of total clone domination. There’s also the fact that other websites such as Reddit are echo chambers and in said echo chambers Clones are supposedly the coolest thing ever. Thus pressuring newcomers into buying more and more clone sets so they get lots and lots of upvotes. Believe me. It feels good to get upvotes. Speaking from personal experience, it gives you a sense of power and validation. But it’s hard to actually come up with and post stuff that kicks off into popularity at times. That’s why so many people are peer-pressured into buying and showing off their clone sets. Because clone bros upvote like sheep whenever a clone is shown. This increases Clone sales and ends up putting us, nothing more than clone enthusiasts who prefer other factions, in the position we are now. (personally I put the effort into making memes, I never repost other people’s work (except on leaks)) On a lighter note. Who are the top 5 DC villains you’d like Lego to make who haven’t been done before? 1) Parallax 2) Cyborg Superman 3) Circe 4) Grail 5) Atrocitus Edited January 27 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Swordy Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Our CloneCommando brother returns. Let us rejoice. 23 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Wow. I’ve only been gone a week. But it’s nice to be wanted. I mean, if you disappeared, the Aslume would close up shop in a week. Wait a minute. 3 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Believe me. It feels good to get upvotes. Speaking from personal experience, it gives you a sense of power and validation. On a lighter note. Who are the top 5 DC villains you’d like Lego to make who haven’t been done before? CloneCommando 2025 Villain arc confirmed? Takes the Aslume’s insanity from EB to Reddit and soon the world—through memes??? This was a pretty hard call.. anyway, here’s my top 5: 1) Joker 2) The Joker 3) Joker, The 4) The Fedora-wearing Joker 5) Lex Luthor… disguised as Joker On 1/24/2025 at 3:59 PM, Mandalorianknight said: Done, you can be swordy-guns-guy You've singlehandedly shattered my sense of self with those observations about what I have always considered one of the dumbest lego star wars sets. I still do, but it causes me to add patch notes to my criteria and terms: LET’S GOOOOO! Wow, I actually contributed to the insanity? Terribly sorry to shatter your Scents of Self, though. Just fax an estimate on it’s value and I’ll try and make amends. On 1/24/2025 at 4:40 PM, Renny The Spaceman said: IDK, I feel buildable figures for licences is gonna be tried again in time, they've been trying to make them happen pretty consistently since 2012 with only a four year gap between the death of Constraction and trying again. I think it's one of those types of sets LEGO really wants to catch on. I agree, action figures are always marketable (now why you would want a mini posable version of a character that’s just liable to fall over soon—wait no AT-AT, don’t fall over!) so TLG is probably going to pursue it sometime in the future. My only question is how they’ll change up the style of figure. They’ve done Bionicle, CCBS, now “Buildable;” how do they further standardize to separate the next system from the previous? Obviously neither of us truly know; just curious about your thoughts. 23 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Soooooo, we’re getting Cyborg Spider-Man before Cyborg Superman. And Arkham and the Batmobile appear to be Schumacher based. Alright. I’ve seen enough. I reckon this’ll do very nicely. We’re getting a Cyborg Spider-Man five years after our last Cyborg. Pretty alright ship you got there. It might not be enough, though. (Not that I doubt 18th century British firepower in the least… but even if there’s a 1% chance Billund survives, we must take it as a full 100% chance—or whatever Batfleck says in BvS:DoJ.) Denmark does own Greenland at the moment… Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 27 Posted January 27 17 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I refuse to believe that the clone bro youtubers make up a statistically relevant number of sales. Combined with their followers they might, but most of their followers don't have the income or space to sustain these sales. It worked fine when it was a few sets a year, but now that almost every playset this year is clone/clone wars based (And seriously, I've seen people say they're going to army build the $70 ARC-170. How. Why.), I can't imagine the clone bros will be able to keep up the pressure. What's unfortunate is that set dev times are too long for lego to fix this in 2026, so we just have to hope they already have TMAG stuff in the works or something if we want to escape a second year of total clone domination. I mean, yeah it's not.gonna be sustainable forever but Clone Bros make hundreds of more Clone Bros and even the casualist of Clone Bros probably buy multiples of at least the battle packs now. Like agree these are people with more money than sense but with all their fans they're absolutely statistically relevant or I doubt we'd get as many as we do. LEGO was more than happy to barely touch clones in the latter half of the 2010s so I imagine if it wasn't making money and creating probably the most active community around a LEGO line in years they'd have stuck to the occasional set for them. 2 hours ago, Swordy said: I agree, action figures are always marketable (now why you would want a mini posable version of a character that’s just liable to fall over soon—wait no AT-AT, don’t fall over!) so TLG is probably going to pursue it sometime in the future. My only question is how they’ll change up the style of figure. They’ve done Bionicle, CCBS, now “Buildable;” how do they further standardize to separate the next system from the previous? Obviously neither of us truly know; just curious about your thoughts. I completely agree there, but I just don't know what their next step could be, I doubt they'll make an entire new building system like constraction any time soon so I think it might be between either them trying brick build again with more specialty molds at a smaller scale (which, of course, buy the time it happens will be the same retail price as the current ones are) or them going fully stupid and doing a series of buildable action figures based around some electronic or app based gimmick like a combination of what the most recent ones were and LEGO Mario. 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: On a lighter note. Who are the top 5 DC villains you’d like Lego to make who haven’t been done before? 1) Parallax 2) Cyborg Superman 3) Circe 4) Grail 5) Atrocitus 1) Slipknot 2) Jarred Leto Joker 3) El Diablo 4) Enchantress 5) The generic military guy played by David Harbour Quote
psqidexslizer Posted January 27 Posted January 27 5 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: On a lighter note. Who are the top 5 DC villains you’d like Lego to make who haven’t been done before? 1) Parallax 2) Cyborg Superman 3) Circe 4) Grail 5) Atrocitus 1) Mirror Master 2) Black Adam 3) Bizarro 4) Heatwave 5) Golden Glider Honorable mentions: Circe, Atrocitus, Weather Wizard, Black Flash, Doomsday Now, to keep this going, who are your top 5 heroes you want Lego to make? For me, 1) Zatanna 2) Raven 3) Kid Flash 4) Donna Troy 5) Booster Gold Quote
Agent Kallus Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Villains 1 - The Joker ( seriously how have we never got this guy!?) 2 - Manhunters 3 - Atrocitus 4 - Star Sapphire 5 - Mad Hatter Heroes 1 - Saint Walker 2 - Raven 3 - Kid Flash 4 - Batman Beyond 5 - Orphan 5 hours ago, Swordy said: Denmark does own Greenland at the moment… And will continue to do so. The only other legitimate option would be an independent Greenland but that's not something the Greenlandic people have expressed much interest in. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 26 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: Now, to keep this going, who are your top 5 heroes you want Lego to make? For me, 1) Zatanna 2) Raven 3) Kid Flash 4) Donna Troy 5) Booster Gold 1) Kyle Rayner (current suit) 2) Guy Gardner 3) Wally West (rebirth) 4) Black Bat 5) Wonder Girl (either Cassie, Yara or Donna) Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted January 27 Posted January 27 8 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: There’s also the fact that other websites such as Reddit are echo chambers and in said echo chambers Clones are supposedly the coolest thing ever. Thus pressuring newcomers into buying more and more clone sets so they get lots and lots of upvotes. On a lighter note. Who are the top 5 DC villains you’d like Lego to make who haven’t been done before? Yeah, I think that's certainly accurate Honestly rather than a fully new list at this point I think my list would look like: Darkseid Talon Reverse Flash Ares (minifigure) Zod It's even sadder for heroes: Wonder Woman Flash Hal Jordan Cyborg Shazam 8 hours ago, Swordy said: Wow, I actually contributed to the insanity? Terribly sorry to shatter your Scents of Self, though. Just fax an estimate on it’s value and I’ll try and make amends. Pretty alright ship you got there. It might not be enough, though. (Not that I doubt 18th century British firepower in the least… but even if there’s a 1% chance Billund survives, we must take it as a full 100% chance—or whatever Batfleck says in BvS:DoJ.) Denmark does own Greenland at the moment… It was actually connected to my Fax machine, so it might be a minute before I can rebuild it. When I called about it, all I got was "why do you own a fax machine" and "how did you connect it to a concept of self". I think it's extremely important that lego is part of any potential play for independence or trade deal. For global brick security purposes an ambassador to DC comics MUST be placed on the superhero design team. 5 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: I mean, yeah it's not.gonna be sustainable forever but Clone Bros make hundreds of more Clone Bros and even the casualist of Clone Bros probably buy multiples of at least the battle packs now. Like agree these are people with more money than sense but with all their fans they're absolutely statistically relevant or I doubt we'd get as many as we do. LEGO was more than happy to barely touch clones in the latter half of the 2010s so I imagine if it wasn't making money and creating probably the most active community around a LEGO line in years they'd have stuck to the occasional set for them. I guess if you count all the youtubers' followers they're statistically relevant to some capacity, but I doubt the level of sets we've gotten up to this year is going to do well. The kids who watch these youtubers can probably get a few battle packs a year but when I was a kid, even around my birthday or christmas I'd be lucky to get more than a couple sets a wave, much less army-build an entire wave. They're spreading out the clone sales across the full year while losing a lot of sales from anyone who buys playsets but feels they have about enough clones. As for lego not touching on the clones as much in the late 2010s, that was mainly all the new movies and how they'd take up 1.5 waves/year. There wasn't much room for much else, so they stuck to the stuff they knew was popular. Which is what they're doing now by making just about everything either 18+ or clone, but I do wonder how much of that is clones selling better than other SW sets and how much of that is SW sets generally doing well and lego overestimating how popular the clone bro youtubers are. 2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: Villains 1 - The Joker ( seriously how have we never got this guy!?) The much more popular Jonkler tends to overshadow him, unfortunately. 2 hours ago, Agent Kallus said: And will continue to do so. The only other legitimate option would be an independent Greenland but that's not something the Greenlandic people have expressed much interest in. The prime minister has been pushing for it recently so it's certainly on the table. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said: As for lego not touching on the clones as much in the late 2010s, that was mainly all the new movies and how they'd take up 1.5 waves/year. There wasn't much room for much else, so they stuck to the stuff they knew was popular. Exactly my point, Clones weren't high on that list until this online echo chamber formed. I don't think LEGO would pivot unless they've sold well enough so far. Maybe this is the tipping point but I don't know if kids care about an era being over represented Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) Well lads. The final SW set is supposedly yet another Clone adjacent set. Rampart, Nolan and Krell were heroes. We just didn’t see it. Edited January 27 by CloneCommando99 Quote
Swordy Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 18 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Well lads. The final SW set is supposedly yet another Clone adjacent set. Rampart, Nolan and Krell were heroes. We just didn’t see it. Rampart maybe, since most of what he did was for the Empire (and self-preservation too, but arguably because he foolishly thought he was vital to the Empire). Krell was just wasteful. There weren’t an infinite amount of clones that he could endlessly slaughter in a game of overwhelming the well-armed and fortified enemy with a swarm numbers. At least Nolan had the foresight to recruit a small number of clones to recover the lost cargo, even if he was foolish in upsetting a free-willed marksman by outright letting to one of those surving clones die. (Which is also wasteful, since the whole reason the Empire won at first was because of the highly-skilled soldiers they used, so letting one of them die is contrasty poor insight and thus foresight.) 20 hours ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Maybe this is the tipping point but I don't know if kids care about an era being over represented I don’t know if kids care at all… well, until they look back years later. Maybe they look back and say “Oh, that was so cool that we got a UT-AT to celebrate 20 years of RotS,” (and they will use the acronym phonetically) but they may also look back and recognize the flaws. I guess for me I look back at the 2011 Police sets with a great deal of fondness, but I can understand how all the police sets then were repetitive from 2005 and 2008 respectively. So maybe some kids like me grow up with a great deal of nostalgia for the 327th BP and UT-AT, but they’d likely do so for any wave I guess. The trick is if the sets hit well to start with, and I doubt a niche Clone land vehicle with Mr. Big-headed and a couple cool military dudes in red will excite a kid. Honestly, LEGO City may just win back my heart with the amount of love and effort they put into the theme this year and last. Edited January 28 by Swordy Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 3:14 PM, Swordy said: I don’t know if kids care at all… well, until they look back years later. Maybe they look back and say “Oh, that was so cool that we got a UT-AT to celebrate 20 years of RotS,” (and they will use the acronym phonetically) but they may also look back and recognize the flaws. I guess for me I look back at the 2011 Police sets with a great deal of fondness, but I can understand how all the police sets then were repetitive from 2005 and 2008 respectively. So maybe some kids like me grow up with a great deal of nostalgia for the 327th BP and UT-AT, but they’d likely do so for any wave I guess. The trick is if the sets hit well to start with, and I doubt a niche Clone land vehicle with Mr. Big-headed and a couple cool military dudes in red will excite a kid. Yeah, I don't know if this'll do well, honestly I don't know why I keep replying to discussions about this I have no strong options about it at all, IDK the Aslume lately has kinda felt like the LEGO Star Wars overspill as of late. Not really surprising given the state of DC is boarding on too embarrassing to even be funny. I'm the same with that wave too, the way that the Advent Calendar that year had a police station buildable from multiple days? That was the real shit back then. On 1/28/2025 at 3:14 PM, Swordy said: Honestly, LEGO City may just win back my heart with the amount of love and effort they put into the theme this year and last. This, the true narrative of the Aslume is the gradual realisation that Non-Licenced sets will be our only chance at salvation. The Space subtheme was so cool, the Donut truck is perfect and reminds me a lot of the one from the LEGO City 3DS game, there's the LEGO Truck remake the new camper van, Luigi and so much more. The fact we got Johnny Thunder and an Exo-force remake last year is icing on the cake. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 My fellow inmates Behold! I believe I’ve discovered the lore reason for why Green Lantern is the Justice League member who’s been in the least proper sets. Spoiler Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted February 1 Posted February 1 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: My fellow inmates Behold! I believe I’ve discovered the lore reason for why Green Lantern is the Justice League member who’s been in the least proper sets. Hide contents Could well be, or maybe LEGO wants us to take the Robin figure from 2020 and have him do double duty as GL too because of the mask. On that subject given that the Green Lantern movie got a comic con promo back in the day and of course Man of Steel got a wave it means that the Gunn movie is the only planned start of a DC movie universe that'll never get anything based off it Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Was bored. Made a tier list of which DC characters like each type of SW content. Quote
psqidexslizer Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Was bored. Made a tier list of which DC characters like each type of SW content. This is startling accurate. Nice job. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Was bored. Made a tier list of which DC characters like each type of SW content. Okay, I'm confused, I get the joke with Deathstroke but in that case why is Booster Gold the other person there instead of like Hal. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 7 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Okay, I'm confused, I get the joke with Deathstroke but in that case why is Booster Gold the other person there instead of like Hal. Because BG is from the future. So he would have grown up with those kid orientated shows. It’s duality. 40 minutes ago, psqidexslizer said: This is startling accurate. Nice job. thanks Quote
Mandalorianknight Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, Renny The Spaceman said: Okay, I'm confused, I get the joke with Deathstroke but in that case why is Booster Gold the other person there instead of like Hal. I've always given Hal the benefit of the "it was a weird space and time situation" doubt, but yeah, what is Booster doing there? Is it just because he's a manchild and identifies with the characters? 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Was bored. Made a tier list of which DC characters like each type of SW content. Astoundingly accurate- some specific ones I like: Superman is of course "I like all star wars", there's no other catagory he could be put in. Likewise, Bruce is an OT fan. Jay and Alan make total sense as OT fans, I bet they like the Mcquarrie art a lot. Red Hood 100% has a youtube channel about his views on the franchise Joker being a fan of specifically and only the acolyte especially works with Bruce as an OT fan Waylon is totally a "look man it's cool spaceships and lightsaber fights I don't really care which trilogy is which" type of guy. Cyborg loves Bad Batch specifically my only suggested changes- Jim seems like a no-nonsense "I liked the original three as a kid, George had no business going back and changing them, much less making the prequels" type of guy. I think Krane would appreciate that Clone wars has the spookiest star wars content in visual media. I think a small catagory for "sequel fan" with a few of the youngest wouldn't hurt and moving some "got into it from friends" and "all star wars is good" guys to a "casually watched mando and thought it was cool" catagory. If Thawne was a kennedy hater we wouldn't have kennedy in charge of SW. I feel like it's possible he got into it when he saw mando, found out Barry liked it, and then influenced mando S3 to mess with him. I feel like Shazam is a skeleton crew fan but not in a creepy way, but pretends he doesn't like it around the other leaguers. 9 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said: Because BG is from the future. So he would have grown up with those kid orientated shows. It’s duality. thanks Booster's a fan of stuff like TMAG, Filoni's New Republic Movie, and the inevitable KOTOR trilogy. Also a new catagory for Rip MUST be created stating that he's a fan of stuff like Kenner's The Legend Continues storyline, Escape from Dagu, the Rey/Taiki/Kevin Feige/GoT guys movies, etc. Quote
CloneCommando99 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 31 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said: my only suggested changes- Jim seems like a no-nonsense "I liked the original three as a kid, George had no business going back and changing them, much less making the prequels" type of guy. I think Krane would appreciate that Clone wars has the spookiest star wars content in visual media. I think a small catagory for "sequel fan" with a few of the youngest wouldn't hurt and moving some "got into it from friends" and "all star wars is good" guys to a "casually watched mando and thought it was cool" catagory. If Thawne was a kennedy hater we wouldn't have kennedy in charge of SW. I feel like it's possible he got into it when he saw mando, found out Barry liked it, and then influenced mando S3 to mess with him. I feel like Shazam is a skeleton crew fan but not in a creepy way, but pretends he doesn't like it around the other leaguers. Booster's a fan of stuff like TMAG, Filoni's New Republic Movie, and the inevitable KOTOR trilogy. Also a new catagory for Rip MUST be created stating that he's a fan of stuff like Kenner's The Legend Continues storyline, Escape from Dagu, the Rey/Taiki/Kevin Feige/GoT guys movies, etc. Good points. Booster’s still waiting for Blade and Beyond the Spider-verse to release though. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said: Because BG is from the future. So he would have grown up with those kid orientated shows. Oh, that's actually really clever. Nice work 3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said: I've always given Hal the benefit of the "it was a weird space and time situation" doubt Was it though? From my memory the story was it was a 13 year old was crushing on him, he knew but didn't reciprocate then she changed her body to look like an adult, he started making creepy jokes and eventually, for a brief period, actually dated her. She was not mentally aged up just physically. I believe there was a later retcon that she was actually a thousand years old which doesn't help his case as we've all been on the internet Long enough to know "character was actually thousands of years old but just looks and acts like a kid" it's exactly the best defense. To be fair though that story to my knowledge hasn't been recanonised with all the Rebirth and Omniverse stuff so current Hal probably doesn't diddle kids. Kinda hard with Deathstroke as for him it happened in the single most popular Titans story ever that'll never be able to be forgotten or discarded. It's kinda depressingly common how much this has happened. From what I've heard Hal, Mad Hatter and Slade are nonces, Cheetah and Doctor Light are rapists and both Superboy and Impulse have a moment early in their introductions where they make out with a non-consenting woman at super speed, if memory, serves which counts as SA. Insane that only one of these characters hasn't been able to live it down, everyone else gets it memory holed outside of fandom injokes, must suck being a Doctor Light fan. Given the amount of notable villains on the list I imagine the next Legion of Doom meeting is gonna have Penguin doing something like this as damage control https://youtu.be/_YmDcCpD1gc?si=4wutflghs7ipxfoS Quote
Gorilla94 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I did not check this threat out in a while ... do we already know anything about thd asylum set minifigs? :) I could see a MAD hatter finally happening. Quote
Agent Kallus Posted February 3 Posted February 3 21 minutes ago, Gorilla94 said: I did not check this threat out in a while ... do we already know anything about thd asylum set minifigs? :) I could see a MAD hatter finally happening. Unfortunately the current prevailing thought seems to imply that it won't be based off comics but instead the Schumacher films. Which whilst overhated yet still flawed campy fun still aren't ripe opportunities for new interesting characters (such as Jarvis Tetch), but you never know... though this set being underwhelming would make budgeting r Quote
Gorilla94 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 5 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said: Unfortunately the current prevailing thought seems to imply that it won't be based off comics but instead the Schumacher films. Which whilst overhated yet still flawed campy fun still aren't ripe opportunities for new interesting characters (such as Jarvis Tetch), but you never know... though this set being underwhelming would make budgeting r Thanks for the answer! Oh boy... Any chance we will get Schwarzenegger Mr. Freeze? Quote
Agent Kallus Posted February 3 Posted February 3 30 minutes ago, Gorilla94 said: Thanks for the answer! Oh boy... Any chance we will get Schwarzenegger Mr. Freeze? I hope so! If it's Schumacher based then I'd like to see Batman and Robin stuff. But if I recall correctly the main thing we know is that supposedly goes with a Batman Forever Batmobile set. So it could be just that movie, but that would be kind of a terrible result to me so I hope not. Quote
Renny The Spaceman Posted February 3 Posted February 3 14 hours ago, Gorilla94 said: Thanks for the answer! Oh boy... Any chance we will get Schwarzenegger Mr. Freeze? There's a chance but I think it's more likely exclusively based on Forever given how LEGO does things now Quote
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