LEGO Star Wars 2024 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[QuiggoldsPegLeg]

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

First, where is this "it's known he won't be getting a new helmet mold" coming from? I find that extremely difficult to believe as I don't see how any existing, still-in-circulation mold would be able to come close. Also, I'm absolutely in the camp that says he should definitely not have a nose because it should mimic a minifig head aesthetic.

I’m pretty sure FoggyFate said to prepare to be disappointed by Enoch’s helmet, or something to that effect on this forum. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 hour ago, ToaDraco said:

I sincerely hope that's wrong because while new and different, it's not nearly as interesting as something like teal or any other wacky color that they could do to take greater advantage of the possibilities of the show's concept. I still say teal would be the best choice given how it's practically become a meme in and of itself considering how much LEGO has used it since its return. Plus, just picture how beautiful a teal and white Delta 7 would look...

First, where is this "it's known he won't be getting a new helmet mold" coming from? I find that extremely difficult to believe as I don't see how any existing, still-in-circulation mold would be able to come close. Also, I'm absolutely in the camp that says he should definitely not have a nose because it should mimic a minifig head aesthetic.

@FoggyFate said so on this forum a good while ago

[Agent Kallus]

On 5/30/2024 at 1:26 PM, FoggyFate said:

Yeah I wouldn’t get too excited for Enoch sadly.

 

On 5/30/2024 at 2:13 PM, Agent Kallus said:

Is that to imply he isn't coming?

 

On 5/30/2024 at 3:16 PM, FoggyFate said:

He is coming, but let’s just say with all the other figs being pretty decked out they had to cut corners somewhere, so no new mold.

 

[Lego Nostalgia]

I feel like the Rangetrooper helmet from Solo would be a good choice since it has that kind of extra thickness at the forehead like Enoch's helmet but that's just me

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

DM'd you with a link to the leak, but yeah apparently it's a completely different piece to the Throne Room Duel Diorama. What's all the more odd is that we have the Advent Calendar that includes Luke with his hair from the throne room diorama as well coming this year.

Huh. Odd.

1 hour ago, QuiggoldsPegLeg said:

I’m pretty sure FoggyFate said to prepare to be disappointed by Enoch’s helmet, or something to that effect on this forum. 

Yeah- my guess is it's the Invincible Iron Man helmet, purely because the rest of the figures sound too good to be true.

25 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I feel like the Rangetrooper helmet from Solo would be a good choice since it has that kind of extra thickness at the forehead like Enoch's helmet but that's just me

Yeah, but that's gone. Reduced to atoms.

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Huh. Odd.

Yeah- my guess is it's the Invincible Iron Man helmet, purely because the rest of the figures sound too good to be true.

Yeah, but that's gone. Reduced to atoms.

I understood that reference.   THE IRON MAN HELMET NOOOOOO HELL NOOOOO THAT'S THE WORST CHOICE EVER.

Edited June 23, 2024 by Lego Nostalgia

[Classic_Spaceman]

 

19 hours ago, Swordy said:

I remember hearing that. I hope his starfighter is more creative than that, given the wackiness that the LEGO Group could go to with this show. 

I would prefer a more generic-looking design, just so that it can be used as a random JSF or modified into an existing design. A wacky teal-and-orange starfighter would be creative, but it is not something that can coexist with sets based on Canon content (this is why I prefer the X-wing vs. TIE over the Dark Falcon). 
 

10 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

DM'd you with a link to the leak, but yeah apparently it's a completely different piece to the Throne Room Duel Diorama. 

 

May I get the link as well, please? 
 

[Swordy]

1 hour ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

 

I would prefer a more generic-looking design, just so that it can be used as a random JSF or modified into an existing design. A wacky teal-and-orange starfighter would be creative, but it is not something that can coexist with sets based on Canon content (this is why I prefer the X-wing vs. TIE over the Dark Falcon). 
 

May I get the link as well, please? 
 

We already have a Delta 7 on shelves right now, we’ve had plenty of Interceptors in the past. I can simply recolour one to my liking for a particular liking if I so desire. (I plan to do that with 75301 to recreate a couple of particular X-Wings besides Luke’s T-65.) Obviously an orange and teal starfighter doesn’t work (the colours would clash like Poe’s ROS X-Wing!), but simply recolouring 75333 would just seem boring to me. Unless it’s meant to recreate a known character’s ship, (like if Jedi Bob’s starfighter was actually the Azure Angel) why not go a bit wacky? Especially if it’s $40.

Yes, may I as well?

[AD_Bricks]

Is it being US$40 rather than $35 like Obi's one(wan) from 2022 just due to price increases, or does it perhaps imply that there's a little more to it, like extra pieces to colour-swap it? I could see them doing that to enable people to switch everything around, as we see in the trailer for RTG. It makes sense, because it'd be like the swappable wings in the X-Wing and TIE set, though they were never going to do that for the Dark Falcon as it's too big to be feasible.

[Agent Kallus]

If the star fighter is just red and white I have slight hope that the red is actually a the reddish orange shade, probably not but it would be cool.

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah, but that's gone. Reduced to atoms.

I think the range trooper helmet is indeed gone but it (and especially the FO Stormtrooper helmet) are less gone than the og stormtrooper helmet. As in they are still the current designs for those characters and thought it perhaps be counted by TLG as the cost of a new mold they'd probably resurrect them if need. So I doubt Enoch would use either mold as in that case he might as well have a new mold but they'd still potentially bring either of the other 2 back if the troopers were going to be remade.

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I understood that reference.   THE IRON MAN HELMET NOOOOOO HELL NOOOOO THAT'S THE WORST CHOICE EVER.

I can imagine worse choices,  though a few of them fall into the so bad it's good category ( Minecraft head anyone?, Minecraft villager head anyone? )

[AD_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

I can imagine worse choices,  though a few of them fall into the so bad it's good category ( Minecraft head anyone?, Minecraft villager head anyone? )

Demogorgon

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I understood that reference.   THE IRON MAN HELMET NOOOOOO HELL NOOOOO THAT'S THE WORST CHOICE EVER.

It is indeed, but it's easy to print on, and we don't have many good options. I'm guessing it will either be this, or the new trooper helmet with some gold splashed on the face.

1 hour ago, Agent Kallus said:

If the star fighter is just red and white I have slight hope that the red is actually a the reddish orange shade, probably not but it would be cool.

I think the range trooper helmet is indeed gone but it (and especially the FO Stormtrooper helmet) are less gone than the og stormtrooper helmet. As in they are still the current designs for those characters and thought it perhaps be counted by TLG as the cost of a new mold they'd probably resurrect them if need. So I doubt Enoch would use either mold as in that case he might as well have a new mold but they'd still potentially bring either of the other 2 back if the troopers were going to be remade.

I can imagine worse choices,  though a few of them fall into the so bad it's good category ( Minecraft head anyone?, Minecraft villager head anyone? )

The new tomato soup color would be pretty nice for a jedi starfighter, I'd be down for your idea- though I agree it's unlikely.

Actually, I'm not as confident that the FO helmet is gone. It's an important enough piece that even with the lack of FO troopers in the past few years, I could see lego paying the maintenance fees under the assumption they'll do at least one or two sequel sets in the next few years. I don't think they'll use it for Enoch, but I do think it's possible it's still kicking.

Range Trooper helmet is 100% not going to be it, though. Used in one set 6 years ago for a trooper type we never saw in any real capacity again? It's gone, and I don't see why lego would pay to revive it when it'd be about the same cost as an enoch helmet.

 I agree that the OG trooper helmet is the least likely, though. They aren't returning to that helmet for the stormies, meaning there's no reason to revive it.

4 minutes ago, AD_Bricks said:

Demogorgon

blank minifigure head with a sticker for the helmet detailing.

[AD_Bricks]

15 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

blank minifigure head with a sticker for the helmet detailing.

 

[Swordy]

On 6/23/2024 at 5:24 PM, AD_Bricks said:

Is it being US$40 rather than $35 like Obi's one(wan) from 2022 just due to price increases, or does it perhaps imply that there's a little more to it, like extra pieces to colour-swap it? I could see them doing that to enable people to switch everything around, as we see in the trailer for RTG. It makes sense, because it'd be like the swappable wings in the X-Wing and TIE set, though they were never going to do that for the Dark Falcon as it's too big to be feasible.

Obi-Wan’s Jedi Starfighter was and is still $30 in the U.S. with 282 pieces, although it did increase by 5 euros in other regions if I recall. Yoda’s was $35 with 253 pieces. The leak from Falcon stated our lord and savior Jedi Bob’s starfighter was $39.99, which implies U.S. pricing as opposed to European, with 310 pieces.

I don’t know if it’s inflation or the content of the set causing an increased price, but I hope it’s the latter. I like your idea of customizing the look of the starfighter, but I don’t know how much can be done with 28 more pieces, but anything’s possible.

My crazy idea is that the starfighter’s wings can be swapped with the X-Fighter’s wings as well. (It dawns upon me as I type this…) Wait! What if it can swap between Starfighter and Interceptor wings? What if it’s like Dreamzzz and you can decide which model is built, so that it can represent two different starfighters that Jedi Bob uses in RTG? (I’m just spit balling [typing?] now.)

 

My final prediction for the second figure: Cala Captain Rex, a Mon Cala with Venator Captain Rex’s torso and arms, no paludron (or else the set’s price increases tenfold on the aftermarket, of course), legs with a cloth waist cape, and a printed bandage on the side of his head, armed with twin stud shooters.

[AD_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Swordy said:

Obi-Wan’s Jedi Starfighter was and is still $30 in the U.S. with 282 pieces, although it did increase by 5 euros in other regions if I recall.

Ah, that's my mistake. Over here it's $50, which normally means that the US price is $35, whereas before the price increases, US$30 sets were always $45 here. I guess 75333 was just caught right in the middle of the period that they were implementing the changes over. Still, I guess going from 35 to 40 isn't horrendous, but there have been several US$40 SW sets that are $70 in Aus, so going from 50 to 70 would be a bit mean for so few extra pieces.

[CloneCommando99]

HD pics of the Dark Falcon and Tie X-Wing mashup have dropped. It looks like that in this alternate universe Holochess is a videogame, not a board game. There are also 2 beds in the falcon. And indeed there is a throne and a prison cell.

Edited June 25, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[Meaf]

Honestly the Dark Falcon looks really fun. I can't ever see myself buying it at full price, but maybe if I saw it on deep discount someday I'd consider it.

[Felkin]

The Dark Falcon and X-Fighter / TIE-Wing sets are up for pre-order on Lego.com. No sign yet of Jedi Bob's starfighter, but it can't be much longer now!

[Agent Kallus]

53 minutes ago, Felkin said:

The Dark Falcon and X-Fighter / TIE-Wing sets are up for pre-order on Lego.com. No sign yet of Jedi Bob's starfighter, but it can't be much longer now!

Bob's Starfighter has been mentioned in the description for the other sets so we know it exists ( I mean we were pretty sure but we've had a few confusions already this year so it doesn't hurt to be sure).

On 6/24/2024 at 12:50 AM, AD_Bricks said:

Demogorgon

Okay, you win.

On 6/24/2024 at 1:01 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

blank minifigure head with a sticker for the helmet detailing.

Whilst the sticker would be very lame, the print on a minifig head could actually be pretty incredible, not accurate to Enoch of course but it could have a lot of uses. Say combine it with a hood that hides the more sci-fi details and you have a pretty cool Assassin's creed style cultist. Or combine with the golden dragon helmet from this year's lunar new year set for a pretty rad warrior of some sort.

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, Felkin said:

The Dark Falcon and X-Fighter / TIE-Wing sets are up for pre-order on Lego.com. No sign yet of Jedi Bob's starfighter, but it can't be much longer now!

I feel like, out of companies I know, Lego has the weirdest and most unorganised reveal schedule. Why can’t they actually reveal the Summer Wave! The Anniversary sets aren’t spoilers so i’m not sure what they’re waiting for if the most Spoilery sets have already been revealed.

Edited June 25, 2024 by CloneCommando99

[Yperio_Bricks]

9 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

I feel like, out of companies I know, Lego has the weirdest and most unorganised reveal schedule.

Not the first time i wonder if they reveal sets only because they have leaked already. If other sets would have leaked instead, say Peridea and Jedi Bob's Starfighter, would they have revealed these sets?

Does waiting until the very last moment increase interest in the sets and sales? Because that's what they figured out, right? I don't get it

For me as a customer this is very annoying.

[Agent Kallus]

1 minute ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Not the first time i wonder if they reveal sets only because they have leaked already. If other sets would have leaked instead, say Peridea and Jedi Bob's Starfighter, would they have revealed these sets?

Does waiting until the very last moment increase interest in the sets and sales? Because that's what they figured out, right? I don't get it

For me as a customer this is very annoying.

I've heard it's mostly because when sets are revealed too early (by TLG's standards) it gives bootlegs a headstart on copying them. And they really don't want a knock-off beating the original official set to market.

[Yperio_Bricks]

25 minutes ago, Agent Kallus said:

I've heard it's mostly because when sets are revealed too early (by TLG's standards) it gives bootlegs a headstart on copying them. And they really don't want a knock-off beating the original official set to market.

Is this still a thing? Few years ago, sure, but nowadays many of the companies have their own designs, licenses even.

[icm]

Unfortunately, it is still a thing. The big thieving bootleg company is now called Marstoy, not Lepin, but it does the same thing that Lepin used to do.

[Kit Figsto]

Also, keep in mind that the average consumer of LEGO has no idea what's coming.  Unless you're following leaks specifically on social media/message boards, most people have no idea what sets are coming later in the year.  Heck, even for some themes that I am interested in, I don't really have any idea of what's coming (Speed Champions, for example).  

I even see comments on Reddit or Instagram all the time from people that follow or post a lot about "Wait, what's coming?" and that's people who are specifically engaging with LEGO fan content on social media still not having any idea what sets are coming later.

Point being, the reveals being drip-fed like this instead of all at once are probably a mix of 

a) minimizing the opportunity for knockoffs to copy the sets

b) building hype among the average consumer that isn't following leaks, as opposed to seeing everything dumped all at once