Technic 2021 Set Discussion

[GoldVillage]

  On 10/6/2020 at 12:09 PM, Maaboo35 said:

The excavator is apparently yellow with a black boom - sounds like a Volvo without the Volvo. Black chains as well; not sure if a Technic model has ever featured these before. And it even has a load, this time consisting of 2L beams. Cool.  Shame we have to wait 'til March, though.

Ah well, at least there's the skidsteer. Blue seat means it'll probably be the same scale as 42032 but with wheels this time, so more parts have likely been used for the cab. Wonder what colour the hubs are - white would look good next to 8283! 

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Yes it sounds promising ;) just lets hope they dont include like 100+ beams just to increase the piece counts... and im not a fan of pullbacks but im a fan of monster trucks (especially grave digger) so lets hope they will be 4wd with a 4-link suspension, how cool would that be :D

Edited October 6, 2020 by GoldVillage

[howitzer]

  On 10/6/2020 at 12:09 PM, Maaboo35 said:

The excavator is apparently yellow with a black boom - sounds like a Volvo without the Volvo. Black chains as well; not sure if a Technic model has ever featured these before. And it even has a load, this time consisting of 2L beams. Cool.  Shame we have to wait 'til March, though.

Ah well, at least there's the skidsteer. Blue seat means it'll probably be the same scale as 42032 but with wheels this time, so more parts have likely been used for the cab. Wonder what colour the hubs are - white would look good next to 8283! 

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42055, 42038 and 8263 at least had black chains.

[Maaboo the Witch]

  On 10/6/2020 at 12:51 PM, howitzer said:

42055, 42038 and 8263 at least had black chains.

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I was talking about actual chains. It's possible that the description meant the tracks.

[Jundis]

  On 10/6/2020 at 12:09 PM, Maaboo35 said:

Black chains as well; not sure if a Technic model has ever featured these before.

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[Maaboo the Witch]

  On 10/6/2020 at 1:57 PM, Jundis said:

 

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See my previous post! I thought the description was talking about actual chains.

Edited October 6, 2020 by Maaboo35
Removed big-a.r.s.e image

[Timorzelorzworz]

The excavator has atleast 50 parts of tracks. At this price point and parts count, do not expect that much.

[Jundis]

  On 10/6/2020 at 2:00 PM, Maaboo35 said:

See my previous post! I thought the description was talking about actual chains.

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Ah sry, didn't update the site 

Yeah. "Ketten" in german can both mean tracks or chains.

[Maaboo the Witch]

  On 10/6/2020 at 2:00 PM, Timorzelorzworz said:

The excavator has atleast 50 parts of tracks. At this price point and parts count, do not expect that much.

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Probably gonna be something like this.

[Technicallism]

And apparently the Mindstorms Porsche Is real and still people saying it’s photoshop now?

18+, set number 515153, 819 pcs

Function:
1. Colour sensor
2. x4 angular motors
3. Distance sensor

But it’s a prototype set, not sure will release to public or not.

Edited October 6, 2020 by Technicallism

[Jockos]

  On 10/6/2020 at 2:51 PM, Technicallism said:

And apparently the Mindstorms Porsche Is real and still people saying it’s photoshop now?

18+, set number 515153, 819 pcs

Function:
1. Colour sensor
2. x4 angular motors
3. Distance sensor

But it’s a prototype set, not sure will release to public or not.

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Even if it's real, I don't think it has less than 1000 parts...the original had ~1600. Taking off some bits and internal parts might take it down to ~1100-1200, but the 819 is somehow incredible for me for that scale..

[Ngoc Nguyen]

TLG's been acting drunk lately.

https://www.promobricks.de/lego-mindstorms-porsche/110202/

[Zerobricks]

So it's been a quick mash-up and a PhotoShop edit for a concept. Self-driving car would be awesome though.

[AVCampos]

  On 10/6/2020 at 3:17 PM, Zerobricks said:

Self-driving car would be awesome though.

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[1gor]

  On 10/6/2020 at 2:04 PM, Maaboo35 said:

Probably gonna be something like this.

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But with more details since this one was some 15€ cheaper...

[allanp]

The Porsche looks like a good fit for Mindstorms. Glad they are considering it for that theme rather than for Technic. Are the programmable LED lights new, control+ lights? I wonder what they mean by programmable, like, as there appears to be 8 lights, can they programmed to run in a sequence, like for an emergency vehicle, or 4 lights placed in a 2x2 trans yellow round brick to look like a rotating beacon light? And if there are lights, 4 motors and 2 sensors, wouldn't that need 7 ports at least (assuming all 8 lights go to 1 port as I hope is the case)? Also, is this the first time they have presented a set to the fan community and asked basically if we want it? I'm not a fan of self driving cars in any form they come in, but the prospect of new lights sounds promising. 

Edited October 6, 2020 by allanp

[1gor]

Mindstorms Porsche with less parts - no flat 6 engine perhaps no suspension...

[2GodBDGlory]

  On 10/6/2020 at 10:17 AM, Maaboo35 said:

I thought it was a Mercedes-Benz vehicle.

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In the English-speaking world, it is generally associated with the Mercedes-Benz G-Class (Maybe other SUVs as well), but I think that it is a general German word for something along the lines of "off-road vehicle," that Mercedes just decided to apply to its off-roaders.

[kbalage]

  On 10/6/2020 at 4:53 PM, I_Igor said:

Mindstorms Porsche with less parts - no flat 6 engine perhaps no suspension...

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The piece count and all the other details make no sense and for the concept they does not matter. Apparently TLG wanted to test the concept of a Technic car controlled & powered by the new Mindstorms system. Not sure if the bad Photoshop work was intentional to ensure nobody would it is a real product like when they were testing the LEGO branded light kits.

[chekitch]

  On 10/6/2020 at 7:05 PM, kbalage said:

The piece count and all the other details make no sense and for the concept they does not matter. Apparently TLG wanted to test the concept of a Technic car controlled & powered by the new Mindstorms system. Not sure if the bad Photoshop work was intentional to ensure nobody would it is a real product like when they were testing the LEGO branded light kits.

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Could the 800 parts be the parts for an upgrade of the 1600 parts original one? That would make more sense, but that is a bit too much IMHO...

[kbalage]

  On 10/6/2020 at 7:35 PM, chekitch said:

Could the 800 parts be the parts for an upgrade of the 1600 parts original one? That would make more sense, but that is a bit too much IMHO...

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Does not make much sense either. Additionally, this set will be potentially retired next year so highly doubt TLG would release a Mindstorms motorization kit for it.

[Maaboo the Witch]

  On 10/6/2020 at 7:40 PM, kbalage said:

Does not make much sense either. Additionally, this set will be potentially retired next year so highly doubt TLG would release a Mindstorms motorization kit for it.

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Granted, but remember this is the company that updated the PF battery box seconds before retiring it.

[JintaiZ]

  On 10/6/2020 at 4:38 PM, allanp said:

The Porsche looks like a good fit for Mindstorms. Glad they are considering it for that theme rather than for Technic. Are the programmable LED lights new, control+ lights? I wonder what they mean by programmable, like, as there appears to be 8 lights, can they programmed to run in a sequence, like for an emergency vehicle, or 4 lights placed in a 2x2 trans yellow round brick to look like a rotating beacon light? And if there are lights, 4 motors and 2 sensors, wouldn't that need 7 ports at least (assuming all 8 lights go to 1 port as I hope is the case)? Also, is this the first time they have presented a set to the fan community and asked basically if we want it? I'm not a fan of self driving cars in any form they come in, but the prospect of new lights sounds promising. 

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Could be a good fit for Mindstorms... but three similar porsches in a short 5-year period!?

[kbalage]

  On 10/6/2020 at 4:38 PM, allanp said:

Are the programmable LED lights new, control+ lights? I wonder what they mean by programmable, like, as there appears to be 8 lights, can they programmed to run in a sequence, like for an emergency vehicle, or 4 lights placed in a 2x2 trans yellow round brick to look like a rotating beacon light? And if there are lights, 4 motors and 2 sensors, wouldn't that need 7 ports at least (assuming all 8 lights go to 1 port as I hope is the case)? Also, is this the first time they have presented a set to the fan community and asked basically if we want it? I'm not a fan of self driving cars in any form they come in, but the prospect of new lights sounds promising. 

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There are a lot of details that don't make sense if we think about it, I think they just threw a few random parts and text on the box to look like something related to Mindstorms. The page says "color sensor" at the lights and also "distance sensors" and "x4 angular motors". Now the Spike Prime / Mindstorms color sensor does emit light, but it is a total waste of resources putting them behind a car light, as it cannot be used as a sensor there. Also "distance sensors" would mean there's at least 2 of them. That already becomes too much, as even one color sensor + 2 distance sensors + 4 motors are too much for the 6 ports of the Mindstorms hub. About the motors, why would it need 4 of them? What about steering? It actually makes much more sense to add 2 XL motors and one angular or L motor for steering. 

[1gor]

  On 10/6/2020 at 7:05 PM, kbalage said:

The piece count and all the other details make no sense and for the concept they does not matter. Apparently TLG wanted to test the concept of a Technic car controlled & powered by the new Mindstorms system. Not sure if the bad Photoshop work was intentional to ensure nobody would it is a real product like when they were testing the LEGO branded light kits.

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Agree that lot's of things in that article is confusing; a bit more than 800 parts...a bigger 42109 set? Perhaps we should concentrate ourselves on Technic sets...

[JintaiZ]

  On 10/6/2020 at 3:08 PM, Jockos said:

Even if it's real, I don't think it has less than 1000 parts...the original had ~1600. Taking off some bits and internal parts might take it down to ~1100-1200, but the 819 is somehow incredible for me for that scale..

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The box says 819 parts...