Lord of the Rings Ongoing Discussion

[Cyprinus]

3 hours ago, Blazej_Holen said:

Hopefully Deagol gets exclusive torso at least. Otherwise there is no readon to buy The Shire for full price day one. 

While the resolution isn't great, the pic of the box floating around has a bit of a better angle for the torso on the side. Definately looks like the one Sam had in Rivendell.

[unclejeffie]

When is the release for insiders?

[nicknack116]

I know we're supposedly a couple days away from the official announcement, which should have these details, but has anyone figured out the dimensions of the main Bag End build side to side and front to back? Trying to figure out which shelf it could fit on in my office and I keep getting confused counting studs because of the angles and larger slopes.

[1024x768]

My only hope is that the rumoured price is wrong, otherwise this set is an epic disappointment.  What we're offered here is - unnecessary minifigs and disjointed filler sidebuilds aside - essentially a 100€ main build. Add the Gandalf's cart and essential minifigs and this should be priced at 150€ tops, if we're being very generous. 270 is just an absurd price. For some people here the FOMO is apparently so strong that they're willing to buy it no matter the price, just because it's LEGO LOTR. For me, not feeling being ripped off is more important, even though I'm a big fan of the source material

[Lordhelmet]

1 hour ago, 1024x768 said:

For some people here the FOMO is apparently so strong that they're willing to buy it no matter the price, just because it's LEGO LOTR

Not FOMO, just collectors.  And not as an absurd proposition as described.  It is over priced, it does have a gwp.  If you collect 100% of LOTR Lego then buying it with the gwp is better than waiting for a crazy deal because the gwp will likely be expensive on the secondary market (not as bad as the fell beast, but let’s call it $50).  So knowing I’m buying these no matter what, then I weigh the prices out,  I can get both sets now for $270 or wait and hope I get a deal on the shire for $216, (20%off) and then hope that the gwp sells for under $50 so I can save more than $4.  Those are big ifs, long waits, and little gain.  So I don’t think this is FOMO vs. an understanding that to get both sets I am likely going to be paying around this amount anyway, so why bother waiting, maybe to save $20 in the long run?  

[MAB]

2 hours ago, 1024x768 said:

My only hope is that the rumoured price is wrong, otherwise this set is an epic disappointment.  What we're offered here is - unnecessary minifigs and disjointed filler sidebuilds aside - essentially a 100€ main build. Add the Gandalf's cart and essential minifigs and this should be priced at 150€ tops, if we're being very generous. 270 is just an absurd price. For some people here the FOMO is apparently so strong that they're willing to buy it no matter the price, just because it's LEGO LOTR. For me, not feeling being ripped off is more important, even though I'm a big fan of the source material

100€ is probably low for the main build. It is significantly more substantial than the original in terms of parts. I think the main build is likely more than 2x the value of the cart and side builds, but could see the latter being $50. So probably $200-220 does feel right. $270, not so much.

However, it does show how good value the sets used to be for collectors that started in the early days. For $70+$13 (or £60+£12) you could get Bag End and Gandalf Arrives, so including 6 (The Hobbit movie) minifigures plus a Frodo and a duplicate of Gandalf and his horse and cart. I just looked back at what I paid for my original set, it was £42 from amazon. They must have been price matching a 3 for 2 offer at Argos or similar to be doing the 30% off discount. And Gandalf Arrives was £8 (again, from Amazon).

As to FOMO, I think it is less FOMO and more the realization that LEGO is expensive and they get you if you have the must-have-it-all mentality. Nobody is going to miss out on the main Bag End set if they can afford it, it will be on shelves for a couple of years. I imagine it is just the realization that they might as well buy it early and have the GWP than waiting and still probably paying near to full price for it due to the popularity of LEGO and the lack of discounts. When I bought my sets in the original theme, they were all sold in supermarkets and I knew I could wait and get a substantial discount (aside from Orthanc as that was a LEGO exclusive). There was an incentive to wait and no incentive to buy early. It is very different now.

Edited March 24 by MAB

[mtrsteve]

Being a collector is just FOMO as a hobby. Speaking from personal experience at least 

[TandNbricks]

The price is really the point on contention for most it seems (we will find out the official price soon). It's a well designed model with a few flaws, definitely needed the kitchen. The figures are excellent and there are a lot of printed elements. Still I don't think it justifies 270. Definitely a great price if it is 200 or even 230/250.

[Khargeust]

12 minutes ago, TandNbricks said:

The price is really the point on contention for most it seems (we will find out the official price soon). It's a well designed model with a few flaws, definitely needed the kitchen. The figures are excellent and there are a lot of printed elements. Still I don't think it justifies 270. Definitely a great price if it is 200 or even 230/250.

Can you tell us which elements are printed ? Also can you respond to my message where I recently quoted you : what do you mean by "lotr fans will eating good" tomorrow ? Are there more sets to come soon beside the booknook ? Thank you.

Edited March 24 by Khargeust

[Arjo]

“FOMO as a hobby” so true… we’re all addicts here, battling our demons for TLG’s benefit.

Edited March 24 by Arjo

[astroboy75]

1 hour ago, TandNbricks said:

The price is really the point on contention for most it seems (we will find out the official price soon). It's a well designed model with a few flaws, definitely needed the kitchen. The figures are excellent and there are a lot of printed elements. Still I don't think it justifies 270. Definitely a great price if it is 200 or even 230/250.

Is the european price wrong really an option? I mean, can we expect a good surprise with a return to 200€ ? 

[Altair1]

12 minutes ago, astroboy75 said:

I mean, can we expect a good surprise with a return to 200€ ? 

Short answer: no

[TandNbricks]

1 hour ago, Khargeust said:

Can you tell us which elements are printed ? Also can you respond to my message where I recently quoted you : what do you mean by "lotr fans will eating good" tomorrow ? Are there more sets to come soon beside the booknook ? Thank you.

Oh well the set gets announced and I would keep an eye on my YouTube channel!

[Lordhelmet]

I just did a pick a brick order and a BrickLink order to build some extra hobbits.  You can basically build two good hobbits with just pick a brick alone (maybe three or four with some creativity).  But I also picked up two pirates of the Caribbean dress torso's with the white skirt piece on pick a brick.  I also picked up a cow and some parts to add a little wheat field to fill out the shire a bit more.  Should have seven extra hobbits now for the party.  

 

Also looking back at the unexpected gathering.  That set is going new for $280, used in the upper $100s.  Interesting that the new price for the new one is around the new price for the old one. 

[1024x768]

7 hours ago, MAB said:

LEGO is expensive and they get you if you have the must-have-it-all mentality. Nobody is going to miss out on the main Bag End set if they can afford it,

Well I for one am probably going to miss out on Bag End. Not because I don't have 270€, but because I find the design severely lacking for the price they're asking.  I guess I'm just not a collector with a must-have-it-all mentality.

I happily bought Rivendell, a masterpiece, but skipped Barad-Dur without regret. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I didn't find the design good enough for it to completely dominate my living space on a daily basis.

This upcoming set in my personal view is designed worse than Barad-Dur.  Which is why I find the much higher PPP a bit ridiculous. 

[Cyprinus]

Better pics of the GWP popped up - only thing new are the heads. Deagol is indeed sporting Sam's Rivendell torso.

[Blazej_Holen]

Where?

[DonQuixote]

12 hours ago, 1024x768 said:

My only hope is that the rumoured price is wrong, otherwise this set is an epic disappointment.  What we're offered here is - unnecessary minifigs and disjointed filler sidebuilds aside - essentially a 100€ main build. Add the Gandalf's cart and essential minifigs and this should be priced at 150€ tops, if we're being very generous. 270 is just an absurd price. For some people here the FOMO is apparently so strong that they're willing to buy it no matter the price, just because it's LEGO LOTR. For me, not feeling being ripped off is more important, even though I'm a big fan of the source material

One does not simply enter a Lego store without spending money. 

The great Eye of Lego is always focused on our wallets.

[Cyprinus]

27 minutes ago, Blazej_Holen said:

Where?

https://www.lego.com/en-au/product/the-lord-of-the-rings-smeagol-deagol-40761

[kuzyabricks]

Boat design is laughable, tree is ugly, and the figures are a poor excuse apart from the faceprints. wow. Set is already disappointing, even with the GWP paying $270 will be difficult. Picked up most of the dwarves for not too much recently though so I'm happy I at least have them to make this poor bag end look a little better)))

[hikouki]

Well, people asked for a cheaper set and here we are. Lego gave us a cheapened set. LOL

I love the minifig selection though and will definitely get the set at some point. I do wonder how much scalpers will ask for the GWP figs...

[TheDoctor]

So I'm now seeing an April 1st release date?

Have to wait and see if the price was wrong too.

Edited March 25 by TheDoctor

[Arjo]

Gwp priced at 39.99 according to Lego, for ca. 190 pieces and two reused figs… punchy… that to me suggests the number is derived from what they have observed on the secondary market unfortunately.

[MAB]

9 hours ago, kuzyabricks said:

Boat design is laughable, tree is ugly, and the figures are a poor excuse apart from the faceprints. wow. Set is already disappointing, even with the GWP paying $270 will be difficult. Picked up most of the dwarves for not too much recently though so I'm happy I at least have them to make this poor bag end look a little better)))

If those minifigures were loose and not with the set, I would not have guessed that they were Sméagol and Deagol,  or even that they were LOTR. 

10 hours ago, 1024x768 said:

Well I for one am probably going to miss out on Bag End. Not because I don't have 270€, but because I find the design severely lacking for the price they're asking.  I guess I'm just not a collector with a must-have-it-all mentality.

I happily bought Rivendell, a masterpiece, but skipped Barad-Dur without regret. Not because I couldn't afford it, but because I didn't find the design good enough for it to completely dominate my living space on a daily basis.

This upcoming set in my personal view is designed worse than Barad-Dur.  Which is why I find the much higher PPP a bit ridiculous. 

You are not missing out on anything. You are choosing not to buy. They are different things.

[Artanis I]

19 hours ago, mtrsteve said:

Being a collector is just FOMO as a hobby. Speaking from personal experience at least 

Pretty much.