Can Indy and Prince of Persia coexist?

[Omicron]

Talked to TLG officials at Brickfair, and this is the official word as of now:

Indiana Jones will not return next year as it will be on hiatus. That means no sets next year, but there is a possibility for a return in 2011, but that is no guarantee. Reason for the hiatus is because of Prince of Persia, and it is expected that the PoP theme will last at least a year.

Of course everything is tentative, but that is the word right now.

-Omi

[JCC1004]

I doubt we won't see any sets next year. Aslong as it returns I don't have a problem. I hope the PoP sets will be good for making a nice Cario Marketplace. TLG officals are all that reliable. We'll just have to wait for the "OFFICAL" anoncement.

[Omicron]

TLG officals are all that reliable.

Yes, they really are.

Especially when they aren't shying away from the whole "cannot talk about it" stuff. This was pretty much open honesty.

-Omi

[JCC1004]

Yes, they really are.

Especially when they aren't shying away from the whole "cannot talk about it" stuff. This was pretty much open honesty.

-Omi

Just because you heard something from some officals doesn't mean it's set in stone.

[Omicron]

Just because you heard something from some officals doesn't mean it's set in stone.

I'm pretty sure that 2010 is already in full swing.

Besides it is the -current- official word. Next time fully read what I said.

-Omi

[Svelte]

Besides it is the -current- official word. Next time fully read what I said.

I don't disbelieve you, but this is not official news. Omi, it wouldn't hurt to be a bit more civil to other members as well.

We already had a running 'There are no Indy sets in 2010!' 'Yes there are!' ping-pong match a week ago. Let's not have a repeat. Thanks.

[legoindy01]

I'm pretty sure that 2010 is already in full swing.

Besides it is the -current- official word. Next time fully read what I said.

-Omi

I believe you here omi. It makes sense. They put Indy on hold for a year and see how POP goes. If it sells then indy may go, if it doesn't then Indy comes back and everything is back to the way it was. It also adds up to what lego said to the ambasader, that they will continue to release this years sets next year, but there won't be any new sets. That's acceptable to me.

But I heard from someone on the rebeldcum forums, who asked a rep. and they said hat there will be sets in 2010 and indy has sold very well so far. so I'm a bit confused. But I'm leaning towards you on this one.

[JCC1004]

My thoery is PoP should come out in summer, correct me if wrong, but we'll probably see some sets in before or after PoP is released. I know Disney is making a moive but what kids will have known about PoP before the moive and theme? It's a mature rated game. I doubt Lego's target aged kids were allowed to play the game. PoP is loosely based off the cario scene along with any other arabian knights type stories.

[Svelte]

I am sure that's the most likely scenario too. I think the same approach is being taken with TS3 - we get the TS1 and TS2 sets for Jan, but not the third movie ones until it actually hits screens.

[Tinn-man]

LEGO would put Harry Potter on hold, too, between movies. It makes sense for them to want to take a year off from Indy, maybe see what direction Lucas and Speilberg decide to take with the series, and then revive the theme in 2011 if Indy 5 happens, and axe it if it doesn't. Actually, that's a great decision, considering that there really isn't anything out right now pushing Indiana Jones, such as a movie or tv series, but there may be more in the near future. If there is going to be another movie, then there will be more sets. If not, well... it had a good run.

Last post I'm making about the continuation of Indy. I'm serious. ( )

EDIT: Grammar mistake. Sorry.

Edited August 26, 2009 by Tinn-man

[JCC1004]

I just hope TS3 isn't like IJ4. The originals were better. They have to recast Hamm. Both moives caused Lego to make the theme. Lego has really done too much this time. There are way too many licensed themes. There was normaly 3 or 4 at a time. Now Lego is drifting away from what they started 50 years ago. It's sad. If they delay Indy a year with kid's short attetion spans they'll forget all about Jones and get something else. IJ5 is supposed to be release 2011 and that will keep the theme alive. TLG has to have some sence.

[Omicron]

My thoery is PoP should come out in summer, correct me if wrong, but we'll probably see some sets in before or after PoP is released. I know Disney is making a moive but what kids will have known about PoP before the moive and theme? It's a mature rated game. I doubt Lego's target aged kids were allowed to play the game. PoP is loosely based off the cario scene along with any other arabian knights type stories.

The Lego PoP sets are going to be based off the movie, not the game. Therefore sets are not related to the game, but the movie.

Just like the Harry Potter sets were based on the movies, and not the books.

-Omi

[JCC1004]

The Lego PoP sets are going to be based off the movie, not the game. Therefore sets are not related to the game, but the movie.

Just like the Harry Potter sets were based on the movies, and not the books.

-Omi

Disney is making a moive based on the game. Therefore kids who didn't play the game won't know much about PoP when the Lego theme and moive comes out. It figures Lego did HP on the moives because today's kids are too lazy to read the books .

Edited August 26, 2009 by JCC1004

[The Green Brick Giant]

LEGO isn't drifting anywhere anymore.

50 years ago LEGOs were nothing like LEGOs are today. 10 years ago when Star Wars LEGO was introduced LEGO was dieing, the sets were horrible and not thought out. Then they realized they can do a mix of licensed and regular sets. How do they do that? THEY MAKE MORE SETS! Look at Brickset, LEGO used to make 50-100 sets a year in the 80s, about 10-150 in the early 90s. Then LEGO branched off and made more sets of all kinds of themes. They made close to 500 sets in 2006-2007, anyone want to say that those were horrible years? They the return of the new popular Castle, the best KK2 sets, great City sets, the awesome new theme Exo-Force (OK that did suck in 2007). There was Batman and Spongebob, and the classic Holiday Train, Aqua Raiders which I really enjoyed, 2007 had the last Harry Potter and the first real AFOL LEGO set, Cafe Corner.

From what we have seen PoP and IJ are VERY different, sure they cross over at times, but still are quite different.

[JCC1004]

You're not getting my point. Lego used to be town, yellow figs, aqua themes, space, pirates and new year is going to be almost all licensed. SW used to be the only licensed theme. They added a few and that was a good balance. Lego isn't really it's own toy anymore. Almost any chid appropriate moive theymake toys of it. SW, Indy Spiderman, Ironman, Star Trek, Transformers and Lego is now like hasbro. They have no toys of their own. They are making toys from moives not from their head. I'm worried this will hapen to TLG.

[Batbrick]

It figures Lego did HP on the moives because today's kids are too lazy to read the books.[/b][/color]

Wow, generalisation heaven, I guess you must be an expert on this thing.

Really, I can agree in part on there being too many licenses, though the Star Wars one is not long off ending anyway. PoP is most likely going to be like Speed Racer, a one year theme. Because these are licensed we heard about them first, there's still plenty of orginial themes to hear about.

To the Brickmobile!

[The Green Brick Giant]

You're not getting my point. Lego used to be town, yellow figs, aqua themes, space, pirates and new year is going to be almost all licensed. SW used to be the only licensed theme. They added a few and that was a good balance. Lego isn't really it's own toy anymore.

I get your point, your point is just invadid. When you make 300-500 sets a year instead of the old 50-150 you can make BOTH license sets and "classic sets".

You even said "Lego used to be town, aqua sets, space, pirates". Point one, LEGO used to be Town, Castle, and Space. Pirates are from the late 80s and aqua sets didn't come until 1995-1996.

You know all of next year's sets? That's impressive!!! In January I know we get Star Wars, and IJ, and that's probably it for licenses, maybe Ben 10, but that might not be in System scale. We also get City sets, I thought I heard something about Pirate set list, but I don't know for sure. There are Racer, and Creator sets, and there is Atlantis.

So in January we have City, an aqua theme, and Racers and Creator, that's four themes done by LEGO. We also get Star Wars, and now that I think about it, is IJ coming out in January? Either way, we have several LEGO classic themes, with the added bonus of the license pieces.

So once again if LEGO makes 10 license themes next years and that equals 100 sets, LEGO can make 200 "classic" LEGO themes to go with them. How? BECAUSE LEGO MAKES MORE SETS.

[JCC1004]

Wow, generalisation heaven, I guess you must be an expert on this thing.

Really, I can agree in part on there being too many licenses, though the Star Wars one is not long off ending anyway. PoP is most likely going to be like Speed Racer, a one year theme. Because these are licensed we heard about them first, there's still plenty of orginial themes to hear about.

To the Brickmobile!

Oops. Wheres the smilely? I intended it as a joke but the smiley didn't show up.

I get your point, your point is just invadid. When you make 300-500 sets a year instead of the old 50-150 you can make BOTH license sets and "classic sets".

You even said "Lego used to be town, aqua sets, space, pirates". Point one, LEGO used to be Town, Castle, and Space. Pirates are from the late 80s and aqua sets didn't come until 1995-1996.

You know all of next year's sets? That's impressive!!! In January I know we get Star Wars, and IJ, and that's probably it for licenses, maybe Ben 10, but that might not be in System scale. We also get City sets, I thought I heard something about Pirate set list, but I don't know for sure. There are Racer, and Creator sets, and there is Atlantis.

So in January we have City, an aqua theme, and Racers and Creator, that's four themes done by LEGO. We also get Star Wars, and now that I think about it, is IJ coming out in January? Either way, we have several LEGO classic themes, with the added bonus of the license pieces.

So once again if LEGO makes 10 license themes next years and that equals 100 sets, LEGO can make 200 "classic" LEGO themes to go with them. How? BECAUSE LEGO MAKES MORE SETS.

You're seeing me wrong. My point is there are too many lisensed themes comming out. Lego had a good balance but now its overwelming. I don't know what sets they are but I know we are getting some. You're last line is wierd. Lego will not have enough classic sets. They are going overboard with the themes.We didn't see many classic Lego relases this year. Not many town sets this summer. Not as many as SW or IJ. This is off topic. I think Indy and PoP CAN coexist.

[Omicron]

Lego used to be town, yellow figs, aqua themes, space, pirates and new year is going to be almost all licensed.

Lego -used- to be wooden cars and tractors.

-Omi

[JCC1004]

Lego -used- to be wooden cars and tractors.

-Omi

You had to bring that up didn't you? I'm talking about the BRICK! That's why I said 50 years agoinstead of when he company actually started. I stopped because the Green Brick Giant took the '50 years ago' thing wrong.

[The Green Brick Giant]

We didn't see many classic Lego relases this year. Not many town sets this summer. Not as many as SW or IJ. This is off topic. I think Indy and PoP CAN coexist.[/b][/color]

No, I'm seeign you fine, you are seeing the facts wrong.

When there used to be only around 100 "classic" sets back before 1999 no one complained there weren't enough. Now there are 200 "classic" theme sets and some movie sets and the whole company is going down the drain!

Also what is it? Did LEGO have a good balance or is it overwhelming? You complain about too many theme sets, when there really weren't, and that there is a good balance. Can you make up your mind?

There are more City sets this year than IJ, the amount of Star Wars sets this year is unheard of. However there are 20 City sets and 19 Star Wars sets that can be easily found in stores. How is that more?

1990 had 13 regular release Town sets, 16 sets in 1996, none really in 2000-2002, 21 set in 2008, 20 this year.

Say it with me....

THEY.... MAKE... MORE.... SETS....

[JCC1004]

Lets just end this. I think there are going to be too any licensed themes next year. Lego might have more licensed then non-licensed.

[McSmeag]

Funny how you say "Let's end this" and then are so quick to reiterate your argument, intent on getting the last word.

Just sayin'

[JCC1004]

Funny how you say "Let's end this" and then are so quick to reiterate your argument, intent on getting the last word.

Just sayin'

I don't think he is understanding my point. I posted it as clear as I could be. I'm not one who wants the last word. GBG I'm not trying to be rude. I just don't think you understand what I'm saying.

[Svelte]

McSmeag, that comment isn't at all helpful to this discussion. The Green Brick Giant, don't be so unnecessarily confrontational in your posting style to other members. JCC, it wouldn't hurt if you took a step back before posting replies since your opinions are well known in this forum on this subject.

If none of you have noticed, the topic of this thread is 'Can Indy and Prince of Persia coexist?' NOT 'Lego is doing too many licensed themes/ general themes/ more than it used to' and so on. There is already a thread somewhere else that deals with that topic, and probably should go back to the 'What themes should we expect in 2010?' topic.

Thanks.