Waterbrick Down

I don't think it's too much to handle, just expressing an opinion and expressing a concern of how the present system could be abused, that's all. I'm thankful that we can have a second character and am fully intending on playing my character in the way you envision secondary characters contributing to the RPG.

Drat, there goes my chance to introduce the first were-rat into Heroica. I thought I was going to have something special.

Round 7 of Johon vs. Louis: Louis vs. Johon - Special Damage (No affect due to sentinel) Johon vs. Louis - Special Damage Louis continues to keep his shield up as Johon stalk in circles around the knight. Combatants: Louis Argenshire 27 year old human knight *Sentinel* Level 1 Power: 4 Health: 10 Gold: 5 Equipped: Sword (WP 3) and round shield (SP 2) Inventory: Potion, bedroll Johon [AKA Alf Gregory] (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Barbarian > Raider Level: 23,2/3 Power: 31 (23+8+4) Health: 40/40 (23+8+1+7+0) Shield Power: (5+1) Ether: ~/0 Positive effects: *Immune to:* (*Fragile*, *Cursed* *Stunned* ), *Natural Respite* Negative effects: (none) Gold: 1727 (1726(1), 0GB(50), 0CB(50), 0GO(80), 0CC(70), 0GC(100), 0M) Equipment: Weapon - Sword of Decay (WP:8) - (once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns. the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes. Suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians.) Shield - None Artefact 1 (L1-9) - Heavy Armour - SP:5, protects from fragile-effect, suitable for barbarians and knights Artefact 2 (L10-19) - Bravado Boots - 1/6 chance of being Lucky at the beginning of every battle Artefact 3 (L20-29) - Sticky Gloves - Increases the amount of gold stolen by 50% (rounded up), suitable for rogues and beast warriors. Artefact 4 (L30-39) - Artefact 5 (L40-49) - Artefact 6 (L50+) - Extra Artefacts: Helmet (+1 max health), Blessed Amulet – Protects from cursed-effect. Dog Statuette - (suitable for anyone, SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.), Hide of The Bleeding - restores 10 HP and 5 ether for every enemy the wearer kills, suitable for anyone, Scarlet Hood - +4 to power, immunity to stunned Extra Weapons: Greatsword (WP:3), Focal Staff (WP:5, Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether Suitable for clerics and mages), Gladius (WP: 15, Darkness elemental, 1/3 chance of Fragile on succesful hits) Tools: Shovel (1), Pick-axe (2), Magnifying Glass (1), Magic Compass (1) Consumables: Potion (4), Venom (2), Remedy (1), Mead (6), Smelling Salts (12), Nostrum (12), Trial Brew (1), Elements: Aquamarine (1), Emerald (1), Topaz (1) Scrolls: Scroll of Sleep (1), Scroll of Blindness (1), Scroll of Sealing (1), Scroll of Confusion (1) Quest items: Blue Rose Both of you, choose your targets and the Row from which you want to fight. Also mention if you want to try to flee, heal, or cast a magic spell, or if you want to use an item instead of attacking.

I just meant that if I want my secondary character to know Skrall from a previous encounter, then I want to do it of my own free will. I'm like Kintober, if I want extra character baggage I'll choose to pick it up, but I want to be the one choosing to do so, that's all. Just my point of view. I'll play by the standard already set, but we should keep in mind that if someone wants to create a "void" secondary character it's as easy as saying that the random "nobody aspiring to become somebody" happened to share a few drinks with our current character at some indeterminate point in the past.

Round 6 of Johon vs. Louis: Johon vs. Louis - Special Damage Louis vs. Johon - Sentinel Louis brings his shield to bear, Johon is going have a hard time getting around his defensives. Combatants: Louis Argenshire 27 year old human knight *Sentinel* Level 1 Power: 4 Health: 10 Gold: 5 Equipped: Sword (WP 3) and round shield (SP 2) Inventory: Potion, bedroll Johon [AKA Alf Gregory] (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Barbarian > Raider Level: 23,2/3 Power: 31 (23+8+4) Health: 40/40 (23+8+1+7+0) Shield Power: (5+1) Ether: ~/0 Positive effects: *Immune to:* (*Fragile*, *Cursed* *Stunned* ), *Natural Respite* Negative effects: (none) Gold: 1727 (1726(1), 0GB(50), 0CB(50), 0GO(80), 0CC(70), 0GC(100), 0M) Equipment: Weapon - Sword of Decay (WP:8) - (once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns. the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes. Suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians.) Shield - None Artefact 1 (L1-9) - Heavy Armour - SP:5, protects from fragile-effect, suitable for barbarians and knights Artefact 2 (L10-19) - Bravado Boots - 1/6 chance of being Lucky at the beginning of every battle Artefact 3 (L20-29) - Sticky Gloves - Increases the amount of gold stolen by 50% (rounded up), suitable for rogues and beast warriors. Artefact 4 (L30-39) - Artefact 5 (L40-49) - Artefact 6 (L50+) - Extra Artefacts: Helmet (+1 max health), Blessed Amulet – Protects from cursed-effect. Dog Statuette - (suitable for anyone, SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.), Hide of The Bleeding - restores 10 HP and 5 ether for every enemy the wearer kills, suitable for anyone, Scarlet Hood - +4 to power, immunity to stunned Extra Weapons: Greatsword (WP:3), Focal Staff (WP:5, Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether Suitable for clerics and mages), Gladius (WP: 15, Darkness elemental, 1/3 chance of Fragile on succesful hits) Tools: Shovel (1), Pick-axe (2), Magnifying Glass (1), Magic Compass (1) Consumables: Potion (4), Venom (2), Remedy (1), Mead (6), Smelling Salts (12), Nostrum (12), Trial Brew (1), Elements: Aquamarine (1), Emerald (1), Topaz (1) Scrolls: Scroll of Sleep (1), Scroll of Blindness (1), Scroll of Sealing (1), Scroll of Confusion (1) Quest items: Blue Rose Both of you, choose your targets and the Row from which you want to fight. Also mention if you want to try to flee, heal, or cast a magic spell, or if you want to use an item instead of attacking.

Oh I'm sure I could come up with plenty of tie-ins to Skrall, however it's like Sandy described, I like the option of starting with a void character with no connections. The connection is the easy part, it's like checking a box, however if I'm going to check the box, I'd rather do it intentionally and because it's part of who my character is, not because I'm filling a requirement. As Sandy has expressed, her intent for the secondary characters is different from the first characters and I'm willing to abide by that, perhaps not cheerfully for the moment, but willing.

I doubt that anyone pursuing a second character will be in it for the average "I'm a nobody aspiring to become somebody" mantra. Most of us that are looking at creating a second character are interested in telling a specific kind of story or character and it seems presumptuous that we should be "forced" into another mantra, "I met this Heroica person and followed them here, because they're cool/inspiring/hate-inducing/interesting/family/etc". I also fail to see how including other secondary characters could take away from the cohesiveness of the world. The world of Heroica is enormous and what better way to represent that than a populous character pool. Intertwining story lines and relationships are one of the greatest aspects of this game, however the best ones are those that occur naturally and spur of the moment, some of the poorest ones occur when people try to plan it all out out-of-character ahead of time. Creativity is like gardening, if you want it to flourish, you don't force it, you nourish it.

It would make more sense that it be offered as a suggestion or idea rather than a mandate then. Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of ideas, I'm just curious as to why it's a rule as it seems to limit background choices.

"I think that bomb is only a one target kind of weapon, a bit too small to hit all of 'em."

Round 5 of Johon vs. Louis: Louis vs. Johon - Steal Johon vs. Louis - Miss Johon skirts around Louis's defenses snatching up a gold coin on the arena's floor. Louis swings at the raider as he moves by, but his sword only catches air. Combatants: Louis Argenshire 27 year old human knight Level 1 Power: 4 Health: 10 Gold: 5 Equipped: Sword (WP 3) and round shield (SP 2) Inventory: Potion, bedroll Johon [AKA Alf Gregory] (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Barbarian > Raider Level: 23,2/3 Power: 31 (23+8+4) Health: 40/40 (23+8+1+7+0) Shield Power: (5+1) Ether: ~/0 Positive effects: *Immune to:* (*Fragile*, *Cursed* *Stunned* ), *Natural Respite* Negative effects: (none) Gold: 1727 (1726(1), 0GB(50), 0CB(50), 0GO(80), 0CC(70), 0GC(100), 0M) Equipment: Weapon - Sword of Decay (WP:8) - (once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns. the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes. Suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians.) Shield - None Artefact 1 (L1-9) - Heavy Armour - SP:5, protects from fragile-effect, suitable for barbarians and knights Artefact 2 (L10-19) - Bravado Boots - 1/6 chance of being Lucky at the beginning of every battle Artefact 3 (L20-29) - Sticky Gloves - Increases the amount of gold stolen by 50% (rounded up), suitable for rogues and beast warriors. Artefact 4 (L30-39) - Artefact 5 (L40-49) - Artefact 6 (L50+) - Extra Artefacts: Helmet (+1 max health), Blessed Amulet – Protects from cursed-effect. Dog Statuette - (suitable for anyone, SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.), Hide of The Bleeding - restores 10 HP and 5 ether for every enemy the wearer kills, suitable for anyone, Scarlet Hood - +4 to power, immunity to stunned Extra Weapons: Greatsword (WP:3), Focal Staff (WP:5, Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether Suitable for clerics and mages), Gladius (WP: 15, Darkness elemental, 1/3 chance of Fragile on succesful hits) Tools: Shovel (1), Pick-axe (2), Magnifying Glass (1), Magic Compass (1) Consumables: Potion (4), Venom (2), Remedy (1), Mead (6), Smelling Salts (12), Nostrum (12), Trial Brew (1), Elements: Aquamarine (1), Emerald (1), Topaz (1) Scrolls: Scroll of Sleep (1), Scroll of Blindness (1), Scroll of Sealing (1), Scroll of Confusion (1) Quest items: Blue Rose Both of you, choose your targets and the Row from which you want to fight. Also mention if you want to try to flee, heal, or cast a magic spell, or if you want to use an item instead of attacking.

Skrall smiled at the dwarve's encouragement, "Don't worry I've taken down floors meaner than this thing." "Namyrra, don't worry about confusin' the beastie, focus on that last tentacle."

Was a specific reason ever given for the rule why the second character needs to be "related" to the first?

The second character has to tie into your first in some fashion.

An incentive at level 40 would be appealing I think. Also, I just realized that it has taken me 60 battles to reach level 30 in approximately 2 years and it will take another 3 years on average for 90 more battles to reach level 50 (assuming I don't get a Medal of Glory, which even then will only cut it down to 30 more battles and 1 more year).

Action 1: Tentacle B, Back Row Action 2: Kraken, Back Row

I don't think the argument is so much about it being so powerful, in that we'd rather prefer a less powerful item that was less situational, like the Dragon Spear, very powerful in certain situations, but still a good weapon when not in that situation. It's Sandy's drop though, and it should stay how it is in my opinion. Just a suggestion for future QM's when designing loot drops though, flexibility with less power is much more rewarding than insane power with limited use.

"Ah, I mistook those tentacles for the wound inflicting kind instead of the vampiric. New plan, Hoke deal with a tentacle, I'll take care of the beastie. Stigvaldi, scratch the scroll work, now might be a good time for that wishing wand of yers." Skrall loaded his second shot and fired a round off at the Kraken from the back row.

The drop is very fitting considering the monster, but I agree with MDM that it is very situational/bordering on lack-luster when compared to the dragon lance. Also note Kintobor, that the Dragon Lance was WP 20. But that's how the cookie crumbles, I guess. Crystal Titan next, anyone?

Skrall watched as tentacles erupted from the lake's surface, "Well that makes things a bit more challenging." "Hoke, keep that thing busy. Stigveladi, go ahead and fragilize a few of those tentacles." Skrall quickly reloaded and fired off two bolts at Krakentacle B from the back row. Battle Order: Hoke Namyrra Skrall Alexis Stigveladi Nur

No, elemental multipliers are applied with the favored multipliers. Critical affects only WP.

Round 3 of Johon vs. Louis: Johon vs. Louis - Damage (Johon: 40+5HP -(3 damage)= 40 Health) Louis vs. Johon - Sentinel Louis strikes out with his sword, but the blade only knicks the Raider's armor. Following his attack, Louis sets himself in a defensive position. Combatants: Louis Argenshire 27 year old human knight *Sentinel* Level 1 Power: 4 Health: 10 Gold: 5 Equipped: Sword (WP 3) and round shield (SP 2) Inventory: Potion, bedroll Johon [AKA Alf Gregory] (Bricksandparts) 25 years old male human Barbarian > Raider Level: 23,2/3 Power: 31 (23+8+4) Health: 40/40 (23+8+1+7+0) Shield Power: (5+1) Ether: ~/0 Positive effects: *Immune to:* (*Fragile*, *Cursed* *Stunned* ), *Natural Respite* Negative effects: (none) Gold: 1726 (1726(1), 0GB(50), 0CB(50), 0GO(80), 0CC(70), 0GC(100), 0M) Equipment: Weapon - Sword of Decay (WP:8) - (once the target is inflicted with damage they lose a quarter of the power of the strike each following turn for three turns. the effect cannot be compounded with more strikes. Suitable to Mages, Knights and Barbarians.) Shield - None Artefact 1 (L1-9) - Heavy Armour - SP:5, protects from fragile-effect, suitable for barbarians and knights Artefact 2 (L10-19) - Bravado Boots - 1/6 chance of being Lucky at the beginning of every battle Artefact 3 (L20-29) - Sticky Gloves - Increases the amount of gold stolen by 50% (rounded up), suitable for rogues and beast warriors. Artefact 4 (L30-39) - Artefact 5 (L40-49) - Artefact 6 (L50+) - Extra Artefacts: Helmet (+1 max health), Blessed Amulet – Protects from cursed-effect. Dog Statuette - (suitable for anyone, SP: 1, once named (Rover), speaking the name summons a dog almost certainly to tag along on madcap adventures and make snippy comments.), Hide of The Bleeding - restores 10 HP and 5 ether for every enemy the wearer kills, suitable for anyone, Scarlet Hood - +4 to power, immunity to stunned Extra Weapons: Greatsword (WP:3), Focal Staff (WP:5, Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether Suitable for clerics and mages), Gladius (WP: 15, Darkness elemental, 1/3 chance of Fragile on succesful hits) Tools: Shovel (1), Pick-axe (2), Magnifying Glass (1), Magic Compass (1) Consumables: Potion (4), Venom (2), Remedy (1), Mead (6), Smelling Salts (12), Nostrum (12), Trial Brew (1), Elements: Aquamarine (1), Emerald (1), Topaz (1) Scrolls: Scroll of Sleep (1), Scroll of Blindness (1), Scroll of Sealing (1), Scroll of Confusion (1) Quest items: Blue Rose Both of you, choose your targets and the Row from which you want to fight. Also mention if you want to try to flee, heal, or cast a magic spell, or if you want to use an item instead of attacking.

"You've wasted enough time enchanting your equipment, we'll be done for if you go into dentistry."

OoC: In case it's not clear, Hoke is using a Nostrum on Skrall. The vial of fluid landed squarely in the ogre's mouth, Skrall painfully crunching away at the thin layer of glass surrounding the sugary liquid. "Just so ya know, Hoke, I'm sendin' my dentist's bill to you. Now, down to business." Skrall fired off two successive rounds at the Jade Kraken from the back row. Battle Order: Hoke Skrall Namyrra Alexis Stigveladi Nur

No one was rude to Mr. Ms. Paris. Don't you think you're being a little prematurely defensive over something no one brought up? What is that sound that brings such sweet rapture to my ears, could it be nothing less than an angel that has humbled herself to trod upon this earth with mere mortals? Oh, Alicia, ever since you walked through that door, you walked through the door to my heart. Please don't stop.

"Just open it up and toss it at me, I'll take care of the rest." Skrall opens his jaws, this was going to be painful.