DarthPotato

And, as I said in one of my earlier posts, we can get new information from this lynch too. Especially with the development of people saying they'll think he's Town after several votes had already been sent in for him. Why are people changing their minds now? Who pushed hard for him if he comes of Town (which I doubt)? This is my stance on it all. I think the Cultist will end being one of hte lynchees anyway though.

1-3: I never mentioned the Vig being suspicious. What I was trying to get at was why they claimed to the Female Lover at the time they did. If they have such an important role, why be so jumpy with claiming it to people? It's more of me saying why the Female Lover was chosen for the Vig to claim to. 4-5: So, because of that, I never said I didn't trust the Vig at all. 9-10: Yes, because I don't think he's scummy as others. My opinion differs from yours and I'd lean towards him coming up Town. 11: That's not defending at all. That's me saying that I think everyone forgot about the suspicion towards the Male Lover. Although, I will admit, my stance on him is sort of similar to the BONAD. Male Lover hasn't come up as overly scummy to me. I don't think he'll flip scum as much as others do so I'm not voting for him. 12-13: You know the answer to that, of course it wouldn't clear me. I'm still confident he'll flip scum though and what I don't like is everyone now saying they think he'll come up Town after the bandwagon against him as already formed. 14: Fine, if the Cultist is Town then I really don't mind if I'm questioned more. Honestly, I find him to be the scummiest person here right now which is why I voted for him. Like I said, I'm still confident he's scum. 15. Yeah. So, there you go. I think Cultist will come up scum and that's why I voted for him. I firmly stand by my vote for him being one of the lynch candidates today.

Well... like I said before, it is mafia, anything's possible. I don't believe I've ever played with him anyway so I have no idea if he'd actually do this as scum. And Female Lover, I found the post you were talking about. Sorry, I must have missed when reading the thread. At first I just thought you said you and the Witch agreed on trusting the Goon and I didn't really see any reasoning behind it. But I've got it now.

What makes you so sure he's Town? (Is it just his attitude and pill reveal?) Also, Female Lover, I don't believe I voted for the Male Lover at all like you have in your tally.

Avoiding discussion about the Witch, huh? I already posted my thoughts on the Witch when I got back and how I understood her being a Vig target. And inconsistent how? With what I've said? You need to explain this part to me more. I'm referring to two shes in that post, one for the Female Lover and the other for the Witch. And I doubt they're actually Lovers. They were sort of role playing with each other and seemed to get along fairly well at first but that's obviously changed now. Also, the chances of them actually being Lovers is extremely low. Then again, this is mafia. I posted this before but I'll post it again. Female Lover, how were you so sure to trust the Goon about the Life Saver Pill? I know it's better to put it in the hands of someone that you at least slightly trust, but it just seems weird to me that he was contacted about it. Oh, and just to add onto the witch, I think she's just as suspicious as everyone is on Day 1. She took a Life Saver Pill and claimed it, which is something anyone could have really done. She definitely shouldn't fall off the radar and shouldn't be assumed Town. Well, actually, she shouldn't be assumed to be anything right now. Nothing's really proven what side she could be on.

Oh, you said lack of defense. My bad! Still, I think what I said above still sums up what I think. I see no reason to hold off my real vote at this point. Vote: The Cultist (Fred Daniel Yam)

It's also sometimes the opposite: Townies fight for their lives because they know they're innocent and scum give up because they know they're guilty and they don't want to say something that makes them seem even more guilty (or even gets their teammates into trouble). Also, what from his defense seemed Townie?

I think we should always remember all suspicions that have been brought out through the course of the game as they may very well come in handy later. So I don't really like it when one thing gets distracted by another, but sometimes that distraction could always end up being a good thing (in this case, if the Cultist ends up being scum). Are they both scum? I have no idea. There's really no way to tell if they're connected because of the small amount (if any) interaction they've had with each other. Personally, I don't think it's too much of a distraction, it's more of people just forgetting about other things going on. I wouldn't vote for the Cultist if I thought it was a distraction. Also, what do you mean we'd learn something about FDY? Aren't you FDY...? While I admit we won't learn a massive amount of new information from the vote on the Cultist, I think we'll learn more than the lynch on the Male Lover. At first, him and the Female Lover seemed to be Role playing a lot together and seeming very friendly, but now that that's changed they aren't really tied together in my mind again.

Sorry is really all I can say for being inactive today and not selecting a pill in time. Anyway, about the subject of the Vig, I still find it really odd how they claimed to the Female Lover. At this point I don't think it's as bad anymore (she hasn't really seemed too scummy to me) but earlier I was completely unsure about her. So it's not about why the claim was made to me, it's more about when. Also, I don't really blame them for trying to kill the Witch. She wasn't overly helpful yesterday and mostly just went over things other people had already stated. Why was the Goon trusted so easily by the Witch and the Female Lover? A life saver pill is something that shouldn't be taken lightly. But, I guess it's better for it to have a chance of being in the hands of someone that's slightly trustworthy rather than a chance of it being in the hands of a member of the scum. BONAD was very eager, but like others have said I think he meant more good than harm. I think scum would be more careful of blabbing about that kind of stuff in public. About the subject of today, I feel like the suspicion on the Male Lover has kind of gone away at this point. Though, A Cultist lynch wouldn't be bad in my mind because it would give us lots of new information. If he's scum, it could verify the argument that him and I weren't on the same side which was brought up yesterday. Maybe it could also end up shedding a little light or even a little suspicion on the Usurper for bringing up the initial case against him. So I'll: Fakevote: The Cultist (Fred Daniel Yam)

Well, for the sake of it, what is your opinion on me today, Cult Leader? Because I was thinking you still had the same thoughts as yesterday. If so, then that would have contradicted a lot of what you said.

Yeah, but he's calling me your teammate. If he thinks you're scum then that would mean he thinks I am too.

He did accuse me today.

Cult Leader, your accusations against me have been just getting inconsistent at this point. Yesterday you specifically said I was scum defending the SK, and then when the SK flips Town I'm still scum apparently. I guess that means I'm always scum, then. I'm still bugged by the Cultist for just going with the tide yesterday and adding just about no new insight in his posts, by the way.

Cult Leader, what's wrong with saying "Tunnel vision"? That's hardly a reason to be suspicious of someone. Perhaps you could actually elaborate on that more. Also, if anyone didn't want to change your opinion on the SK, no one had to listen to me. All I said was that I think we should actually give him some time before jumping to conclusions. Of course, things are different now because he hasn't checked in since very early on today, but I think you can still get the picture. It just feels wrong to me knowing that we're lynching someone when they haven't even said much. What information are we supposed to get from that lynch besides votes? There's so many more possibilities.

Cult Leader, you think both I and the SK are scum, then? If I was scum I wouldn't just defend another scum buddy out of the blue like that. You haven't really given too much opinion on the SK though, and I'm really curious to hear your thoughts on that. You also seem to be going in with tunnel vision and aren't considering other option at all. It is day 1 and I'd like to hear your thoughts on other things (and yes, I know you gave some suspicion to the Role Cop too but other than that you've mostly just been going on about how he's suspicious and I should be lynched).

Hmm, it must have been an error on his part then.

I didn't fake vote anyone. I do find the Cultist odd too, mostly for the same reasons that I called out the NPC for. Either way, I still find it interesting how several people seem to be popping up out of nowhere just to say that they're suspicious of someone (Serial Killer, Usurper, me, etc.) and then they leave again. Yes, I don't know why so many people are taking it seriously. Still, I really want to hear from the SK but time's running out fast...

If you have the same opinion as me on that, then why would you want me to be lynched? All I said was that I wanted to hear the Serial Killer speak and that I found it odd that everyone was on to him before he had the chance to defend himself. Consider it a defense if you want, but to me it was my thoughts on what was currently happening.

How? Maybe you could explain yourself and why you agree with him instead of just saying you do. That way, I'll at least be able to respond to you somehow.

Thanks for the review! I love this figure. While he doesn't have any printing on his torso, I still like the simplicity there. His head looks really nice too. I can't wait to get around buying the Sail Barge in the future!

It's just my thoughts on the matter. Yeah, he had flawed logic, but I do want to see his response on everything. I don't like voting for people when they don't even get the chance to defend them self. Anyway, I think you're jumping to conclusions way too fast here. I didn't state my opinion on the Serial Killer's affiliation at all, I said I wanted to hear what he had to say first.

Yeah... I do find it odd with all the voting and fake voting towards the Serial Killer when he hasn't even had the chance to explain himself yet. Give him a little time and be patient. I know we don't have all day but we shouldn't rush into this.

I usually find the votes that have little explanation and then end with the voter saying something along the lines of "I may unvote him later" to be suspicious. As pointed out, we can only unvote once. So I think this prevents people from being so wishy-washy on their votes. Also, Blacked out Figure, have you found anything yet? You said you'd be looking for something.

Thanks for the feedback, Hinckley! I thought the Lover Recruiter role was definitely an interesting idea, although I can't really think of too many scenarios where it could be used. I think someone should be in the game long enough to properly use it, although since I was killed early I probably wouldn't have the best judgement on that. Still, it may be better to just stick to original Lovers in the future instead of the Lover Recruiter idea.

Hello there! I think I'll take the Magical Pill. Because I'm magical. Found anything yet? By this post, do you mean a randomly selected person is better or the vote today by us is likely to be random? As the Female Lover pointed out, you're far better listing your suspicions. Especially considering it's Day 1.