Lady K

Ok, to your first quote: Yes and no; they could have been on different sides at the time she posted this; but your trying which is good. You need to look at all her posts to get a feeling on why you had a feeling she was town. Your second quote: Yes, I can explain it to you. At the time (Day 1, almost always a townie loss), instead of voicing initial thoughts on anyone or voting for gut feeling (hard to do Day 1, but better than a vote throw away) both Zombie Cheerleader and The Mummy decided to vote for each other instead. Ok, so they didn't agree wth the risk of a Day 1 lynch/loss of town which is fine but the way they casually threw away their votes really was unhelpful to town. Now later Gorgonzola stated that given that situation he didn't think both of them would be scum due to that behavior standing out, but he voiced the possibility of one of them being scum. He was curious about why I hadn't made more out of the miller claim being it was the Zombie Cheerleader who claimed it day 1. At the time I felt there wasn't much to make of it; only time would tell if it was true or a very bold scum move to avoid attention. As to Gorgonzola feeling I should have been more disturbed by how fast the bandwagon formed on Dracula, I would have been if it was not Day1. So to give you an example, I have called out The Werewolf with some suspicions and a vote; he has responded with thoughtful posting and states there will be more later today. I look forward to what he has to say. If say a bandwagon had then formed quickly on him after my call out vote today; then yes I would be very concerned. Scum will bandwagon to hide amongst the town. I hope this answered your questions.

Correct. Those things all grouped together made you look more suspicious than Mutant Fly and Swamp Creature to me. Your reason for voting for Dracula was 'Hey if we are heading in that direction..' but you didn't give any additional thoughts of your own on the subject of Dracula as a lynch. So without that it made you look like your were just following the bandwagon like a good townie. While I was initially on Day 1 calling out Zombie Bride for her quick overly concern of the bandwagon on Day 1, I didn't really see anything new on Day 2 to make her suspicious enough to vote for. Your voting for her alone with the reason of Day 1 just made it seem as though you were trying to distance yourself from the Day 2 lynch like you knew he was town (only the scum know for sure who is town and who isn't). Then your response today with ' wow, I knew he was town' just added fuel to the fire. Could the mafia have taken advantage of you, sure, but why? If you aren't scum then why single you out like that? Unless, it was to make it look like you are more innocent townie than you are? Granted that seems a little complex, but I have seen complex things at parties before so I'm open to all possibilities. I'm willing to consider it as a possibility, but it just doesn't make sense to me at this point that you alone would be set up. I look forward to more thoughts from you today. At least my vote got you talking more. Possibly, but also possibly just new. I am waiting to hear more from him. Could be just a new reaction, could also be a scum ploy to distract the town. Maybe, maybe not. His further participation or lack there of, could indicate which direction his loyalties lie. Good. Now give your reasons. You find me suspicious enough to vote for, but why? Best way to help town is by voting, which you have done, then give reasons why and back up with posts. Your vote is a good start. To link just click the quote button and then post your responses all at once in this day's thread. I agree with this. Just remember that new can always be scum first game, as alignment is random. Good start. However, back up with evidence, post you think apply to this. Again, find posts that apply to why think she was town before the day ended.

Vote: The Werewolf (LegoMonorailFan) For the reasons I gave above. I would really like to hear what Wolf Man has to say; as well as responses from the Mutant Fly and The Swamp Creature.

And this is helpful how??? Sad we lost another townie last night and Gorgonzola turned up town; I'm sorry I really thought he was scummy. We have lost 5 of our own and only one scum has been taken out; not good odds. Today needs to be better for town to survive. While I would normally recommend caution to our town vig this early during the party; well done. Ok so for voting analysis we have: Day 1: Final Vote Count:Dracula (Rider Raider): 8 votes (Lady K, Lord Duvors, Forresto, KotZ, Steamdemon, LegoMonorailFan, Fhomess, Tariq j)Frankenstein's Monster (LegoRacer1): 1 votes (mediumsnowman)Swamp Creature (KotZ): 1 vote (Khscarymovie8)Zombie Groom (Forresto): 1 vote (Rider Raider)Zombie Cheerleader (jluck): 1 vote (Actor Builder)The Mummy (Actor Builder): 1 Votes (jluck)Non-voting: LegoRacer1 (Will begin Day 2 with a 5-vote Penalty for not voting) Day 2: Final Vote Count:Gorgonzola (fhomess): 8 votes (mediumsnowman, Lady K, Khscarymovie4, Actor Builder, Tariq j, Steamdemon, LegoRacer1, KotZ)Frankenstien's Rocker: 3 votes (Penalty, Penalty, Penalty)Zombie Bride (Khscarymovie4): 1 vote (LegoMonorailFan)Swamp Creature (KotZ): 1 vote (homes, jluck) My take on this so far is: We now know that Dr. Frankenstein was a scum. Notice how her vote was placed on the top choice for each days lynch. Day 1, the hammer; Day 2 in the middle. Good places for scum to hide while looking to support the town for a lynch. I agree that there is at least one other scum on those bandwagons. Now, I also agree with the thoughts on the Mutant Fly and Swamp Creature looking scummy, however, right now I am taking a closer look at the Wolf Man. Why....well take a look at the voting for day 1 and day 2. Day 1 he voted third from the end, a good place to hide; and in reviewing his reason...he didn't really have anything other than following other's reasons. Day 2 he alone voted for Zombie bride; now Day 1 she did seem overly concerned about the bandwagon forming quickly on Dracula, which at the time looked scummy but she was right in the end. And now she is no longer with us; what could she have said today that made her a target? Wolf man's reaction was that 'as he suspected, Gorgonzola was town'. How could he possible be so sure he was town? Scum know who is who, town doesn't. His comment along with the vote on Zombie Bride seem an attempt to look townie while at the same time the townie he voted for is killed in the night. Thoughts?

Why not the other way around? You seem pretty sure of who killed who and why. Ok, no problem. But you still haven't answered my question of why you found it suspicious? It would be nice if you would restate or elaborate for us? Getting his attention, makes sense. This doesn't make sense. Your voting him because you think he loves guns??? Well, state your suspicions, give reasons of your own rather than relying on someone else. Ok, vote two for the mummy........ Makes sense. Reason given. I'm suspicious of his inside knowledge of the killings in addition to the weird vote. Um...anything else to say, you do have two votes against you. Thoughts? Suspicions? Good thoughts. I am interested in your thoughts though about the votes outside the bandwagon. And the fact that you and the mummy decided to waste votes on each other still bothers me... I have put our lost townies in green and my thoughts are below: Final Vote Count:Dracula (Rider Raider): 8 votes (Lady K, Lord Duvors, Forresto, KotZ, Steamdemon, LegoMonorailFan, Fhomess, Tariq j)Frankenstein's Monster (LegoRacer1): 1 votes (mediumsnowman)Swamp Creature (KotZ): 1 vote (Khscarymovie8)Zombie Groom (Forresto): 1 vote (Rider Raider)Zombie Cheerleader (jluck): 1 vote (Actor Builder)The Mummy (Actor Builder): 1 Votes (jluck)Non-voting: LegoRacer1 (Will begin Day 2 with a 5-vote Penalty for not voting)With 14 players left, it takes a majority of 8 votes to lynch someone. With a majority vote, Dracula (Rider Raider) is lynched. Night One has now begun. You have 48 to get night actions in. Ok, so I started the vote on Dracula based on him not contributing anything till after voting started. After previous lives I felt we needed to have a day 1 lynch (even knowing the high probability that it would be an innocent townie) to prevent a no lynch for day 2 and no progress day 3. Looking back now at those who joined in, we see that two innocent townies joined me quickly to get Dracula to talk. And while he did; he didn't really say anything to convince us to choose someone else. Five more joined in and in my past lives usually the scum like to hide in the middle to middle back area. Therefore I am more concerned with the sixth and seventh votes on a bandwagon. Sure scum could hide anywhere; but going with the 3-4 ratio then we have some on the bandwagon and at least one off; maybe even one on the bandwagon and two off. I am by no means discounting the others on the bandwagon. Looking more closely at the 'hey vote for each other pair', I think at least one of them is scummy; both would standout too much. So my top suspicions right now are The Mummy, Zombie Cheerleader, Gorgonzola, and The Wolf. Now I could be wrong about any of these; but time will tell. Ok so: Gorgonzola at the top of my list: (1) seeming to know a lot about who killed whom and why, and seemed confident in his assumptions (2) he is was near the end but still hidden in the bandwagon, second to last (3 )he threw out a really weird vote reason, because he thinks the swamp creature loves guns I see a lot of initial votes out there and I want to hear back from those I find most suspicious. So for now: Vote: Gorgonzola (fhomes)

I then asked.."How So?" in response to this. How is my asking 'How So?' to your finding the kill order suspicious, getting defensive? I was merely asking why you find it suspicious. Instead of answering my question you accuse me of being defensive; like you are trying to defer the attention from yourself. I was genuinely curious as to why you found it suspicious.

How so? Also, care to elaborate as to why you didn't vote yesterday? True, but wasting your vote on a strange 'hey lets vote for each other' doesn't make sense. If you wanted to vote someone else then do so for a reason instead of just throwing your vote away. As to the numbers; it sounds right. Although I don't think we would have 4 scum and a SK or 3rd party. Maybe 3 scum and SK or 3rd party; at this point just speculation, and it really takes us away from focusing on making sure we get a scum today instead of losing more townies. Last night cost us dearly. This is a good point. We need to focus on finding the scum; and not voting by Frankenstien was about as much help as the two ' lets vote for each other' that the mummy and zombie cheerleader did.

Ok, not good. One loyal townie lost due to the lynch on Day 1 was bad enough...but three lost!.........

Thanks for the update. Waiting patiently.

Absolutely fantastic! So much to look at; I keep coming back to find something I didn't see before. The whole thing is incredibly well balanced, and the lighting is exceptional. Very well done!

You are correct here in several points. Lynches always help the scum and lose an innocent townie vote; however Day 1 is almost always a townie by default (although I have seen a scum lynched Day 1 before) the thinking is that one or more scum will jump on the bandwagon Day 1. So it is looking more at who jumps on the bandwagon and when is how the votes will be analyzed on later days. My concern here is previously a no-lynch was chosen for that reason of losing a townie; and then it repeated Day 2 and it threatened to repeat on Day 3. However, two days of a no lynch killed the town in the end; I don't want to see a repeat of that. If you have a reason why you shouldn't be lynched today or a better person to lynch then I am listening. Otherwise we still have a party infiltrated with scum not looking for fun, and we have to work together to find them.

??? So you vote no reason, then unvote with the confusion above....and don't give a vote on someone else. So, you prefer a no-lynch, ok that is your opinion. However, based on the last lifetime I disagree. But you state you are willing to target inactivity useless to town. And this is helpful how exactly???? So rather thank voting inactivity that is useless to town (your words above), you think this is helpful to town ....how????? P.S. Do we get extra points for answering the above test question correctly???? I do agree.... and it would be more helpful than three days of no lynch for fear of lynching a townie.....which recent memory says was extremely hurtful to town. How exactly? Recent events showed that town killed itself by fear of lynching a townie. Yes, I don't like it but the memory of three days of townie lynching fear remain strong; I don't want a repeat of that. Sad but true, first days lynches are more townie than scum. It is still better than the possibility of a Day 2 no lynch and so on. The duel 'hey lets vote for each other' is one of the scummiest non helpful to town things I have seen in awhile! Both the zombiecheerleader and the mummy should be watched closely. And I'll switch my vote to either if the town wants to go that direction.

Current vote update with about 24 hrs left. Indecision will not get us anywhere at all and will hurt more than help. I don't see how a no-lynch will benefit tomorrow, based on my last life it resulted in three days of indecision and going no where, in the end town was hurt bad by it. So the choices are above, with Dracula with the most votes. At this point Dracula should comment as to why we shouldn't choose him. Also our zombie cheerleader is the only one who hasn't cast a vote at all. Care to comment Zombie Cheerleader?

A vote at the time with no reason. This was explained later as a vote to get him talking However, this was an immediate vote after the one above; also with no reason given. Care to share you thoughts now? Fluff can be fun on day one and get people talking. As to the claim, it could be legit and it could be scum, claiming early to avoided an investigation and thus to survive a little longer. I won't address this yet with concern, as it is way too early to tell. He only has 4 votes out of the 8 needed to lynch? You do seem a little too concerned this early about the amount of votes on him. I pointed out I wanted him to talk; so I placed a vote. He hasn't said a word yet; and if I am correct he is the only one who hasn't posted even once on our first day in this lovely old house. However, I see now he is here. My vote stays till I can see what he has to say. Here are two trains of thought: 1. He hasn't said anything; what is the possibility he is a loyal party goer? Past experience says more than likely. But if we get rid of a more talkative person and he is just as quiet tomorrow then we have lost more than we have gained. 2. The no lynch situation; past experience, recently, has not lead to anything good except more days of no lynch and quiet people still around. Ok, so you first withheld your vote because you didn't have a reason and now you just vote without reason? Explain please. True but he still needs a total of 8 for a lynch and that could swing at anytime; you still seem too concerned this early. Yes, but what if tomorrow portrays the same; and he says nothing or very little. I understand your point; its a risk either way.....as is a no lynch. However, I'm not sure on choosing someone more talkative; tomorrow that person will still be just as talkative which is always more useful for town. True, as past experience has proven. However in past lives (and I have had many, as have you) scum have pulled the same tactic to remain under the radar. Again it is a risk either way. I'm open to options but, after my most previous life, I'm not sure a no lynch is a good idea. Welcome. You mention on to business but give.....No vote? Or other thoughts on the vote choices so far?

Hmm.... Ok.... ????..... So where is Dracula? Vote: Dracula (Rider Raider) Seriously, you better not be keeping the good stuff to yourself. Care to comment? Thank you, um pink elephants are where? Cool, hope there's enough to go around.

Which is why we need to get them first. Ok, where is the blood, I mean wine? Obviously you know where it is...

Ok, so no food....wine maybe...a deep blood red will do just nicely to begin this evening....

Yum, steak.... rare and ....bloody I assume?

Good Evening, Bride of Dracula has arrived......let the party begin! I'll start with a nice deep blood red drink....anyone want to join me?

Sounds Fun! I have a large time commitment to grad school....however, if you need more players then I will find the time. Otherwise put me as a backup. 1. Yes, many many games. 2. I'll find the time. 3. The Blob; 'turns out you don't need a brain, they are over-rated'.......

Awesome game Medium! Thanks for hosting it. Good job to the Ballagios. I'll echo everything already said about the pictures, timing, and character set-up. This was a challenging game with only the two PRs and having to base everything off of voting and conversations; or lack there of. I sure learned a lot from this game; and it was fun. I am looking forward to seeing everyone again in future games.

Thanks for having me, mediumsnowman. It was awesomely fun!

So we have about 1 hour left and no one wants to lynch the scummy Tony? Just two more votes and we will succeed. At least when I flip loyal town jury tomorrow, then maybe town will listen? So be it, I will be the lynch to benefit town. I wish loyal townies luck for tomorrow. I will be with you all in thought.

Ah, but it is. I am loyal jury town, so when that is revealed will you lynch Tony? We still have 1 1/2 hrs to lynch Tony. If you feel Tony is scummy as well then why not chose him today instead?