Lady K

And when I flip loyal jury town.....they what will be your two cents as there will only be 3 loyal town vs. 2 Bellagio? Dude, seriously, please keep your clothes on. Will you find Tony scummy then and lynch him?

Since it appears the will of the misguided town is to lynch me today; then so be it. I will go for the benefit of the town. Some thoughts before I go: -I am loyal jury town -I have tried my best to lead town in a victory; sorry so many thought (or we lead to think) I was scummy -I leave my vote on Tony because I truly believe based on his comments since Day 1 that he is Bellagio -After today there will be 3 town and 2 Bellagio (provided the pattern stays and there is no night action) -One more loyal town jury lynch plus a night kill and they win; that will be Day 6 and the last day for the loyal jury town -Starting tomorrow you won't have my vote to help you lynch a Bellagio (Tony) -We could turn this around today and still lynch Tony (we only need two more votes) -Two more votes on Tony today could result in a Bellagio lynch; just two thats all we need -Think about how you will feel tomorrow when I turn up town; when this happens......Lynch Tony -Do you really want to risk and Bellagio win by lynching me? If so then remember what I have said. -We can still turn this around; we have about 2hrs and need just two votes on Tony -If Tony were truly loyal jury town, he would have had the town investigator clear me early on -Please think about all I have said very carefully. -2hrs, thats all you have to save the loyal town jury from the criminal Bellagio crime family winning.........

A loyal jury town member who speaks out frequently, ask questions, and stays active in the conversation is worthy of protection; also I have a vote and that is a powerful tool to use against the Bellagio Crime family. However, no one wants to listen to me about Tony being very scummy from several conversations over several days. Add to that, we both have been active in trying to get the town's attention; He has succeeded in leading the PRs to their deaths. I have seen this tactic before in the past on previous jury duty. If my lynch will convince what is left of the town to vote for Tony tomorrow then it is worth it for the town to survive. I am loyal jury town; it will be revealed tomorrow. Vote for Tony for Day 6 lynch or town will lose to the Bellagio.

No, my defense is that I am town, but without an investigator clearing me I have no way to prove it. Gary may be telling the truth and he may not be. You will know tomorrow when my loyal jury allegiance is revealed. Good. Fine with me. Town still has a chance to win if there are no night actions like the past odd nights; tomorrow will prove I am town. I am willing to sacrifice and be the lynch for the town to win. Tomorrow should be three loyal town and two Bellagio; so there us sill a chance for town to win. Just remember what I said and be prepared for me to be revealed as loyal town tomorrow. Again if it is a quiet night then town has a chance tomorrow. As I have stated; I will be today's lynch so tomorrow town can win. Lynch Tony. I am loyal jury town; hand me over to the Judge and then you will have your proof of my loyalty to this jury.

Well, I am town and the other possibility is that scum kept me alive to keep themselves alive. By claiming to protect me every night, Gary avoided suspicion. I started to become suspicious when no other PRs turned up to join the town block. Just the two of us as town block didn't make sense to me; at least the Vig is still alive and operating alone. If we have a Vig; although if we don't and there are two kills then it means another Molleti is still alive. All I ask is that if town is still alive tomorrow then please lynch Tony. I am starting to really think that it is Tony and Gary that are the Bellagio crime family.

Fair enough; I only brought up the experience in that particular reference because I feel that someone did just that and trusted you with a PR reveal that then hurt the town. Why? Because due to the active jury members not being cleared by the loyal jury town investigator (I know I haven't been contacted that I am cleared) tells me we don't have an investigator at this point and someone who is Bellagio scum is leading the town the wrong way after killing the loyal investigator. I think the investigator claimed to you and you either killed him/her or had him/her killed by the Bellagio scum killer. I also think that the investigator was killed early on. If I am correct about the above statement, then you asking for PRs to claim to someone they trust tells me you want to know which ones are alive and which are not. I think we may have a Vig, I don't want said person claiming to someone who might then get them killed. You want to call me on it, then go ahead and lynch me. Then when I turn loyal town jury, you'll be next. The only reason I think I am still alive is because you know that when I am found to be loyal jury town and you are the main one I have been suspect of then you will be front and center the next day. No threat, just facts.

Yesterday was yesterday. We lost two loyal jury members yesterday and had a reveal of one Molletti. We need your list for today, and the reasons for why you find them scummy. Jared is flying under the radar; but not as much as Tina and Anthony are. They are more under the radar than Jared. I agree. Why is Tony still alive? He is active, trying to steer the town and the conversation; these things make someone a target for a night kill. If the doctor (Gary) is protecting me then who is protecting Tony? And why is Gary still alive; and me for that matter? Thank you, this is what I have been trying to get you to do, give more thoughts. Why? You keep seeing me as the most suspicious, that's fine, its how the loyal jury vs. scummy crime family works. Tomorrow arrives, after you have successfully lynched me, and I am revealed to be loyal jury town. Then what? You need a backup plan for being wrong about my loyalties to find the real Bellagio and lynch them. I brought up your being new due to Tony's response of something being obvious and I felt it was only obvious to those with experience. I didn't want you to be left out just because you are new to the jury. If Clifford were still with us then I would have added his name next to yours as new as well. No offense or anything else meant by that statement. It is a sad truth that durning jury duty, scummy acting townies get lynched. Looking at who jumped on the bandwagon and when and reasons given (or lack there off) can sometimes give away who is really a crime family member. So their lynch isn't in vain. I have been in your shoes, and even with experience, everyone is looking pretty scummy right now. My lynch is only the best odds if your are a member of the crime family. A Bellagio lynch is in the best interest of town today; and we have probably two of them amongst us. We really need to catch a Bellagio today: Vote: Tony (jluck) Still at the top of my list. There is no reason for Tony, Gary, and myself to be alive at this point. One or two of the mentioned are scummy Bellagio crime family; and I know it isn't me.

Ok, but what are you thoughts? Care to cast a vote or at least give suspicions, reasons, anything.....? Add to the conversation..... How is it that I am the only one you find suspicious? There are other choices out there; even though Tony is at the top of my list, I do have a list. I called attention to both yours and Tony's voting due to the fact the two of you only focused on one person at a time. I haven't seen you calling out others, asking questions, adding comments to others suspicions. The vote on you is to get you to speak up; scum tend to hide and give short non informative responses.

While Tony is still at the top of my list, I really want to hear more from the rest of the jury. This day's vote is crucial so we need to get it right this time; I want to especially hear more from Jared, Tina, and Anthony.

So what are your thoughts now? Anyone have any comments about the voting, patterns? Anything?

Except that I am town. So taking that into consideration and four of us are town and two are Bellagio, where does this leave us? Why keep both of us alive, if we are both town? As well as the fact that Tony is vocal and active and he is still alive as well, so why? No conversation for over 2hrs is not going to help us catch the Bellagio, everyone needs to contribute or they have already won.

I was wondering the same thing. I was beginning to think that I was somehow being duped by scum infiltrating the the town block. I am town, just vocal and active; but if you didn't protect me the last two nights and with the weird every other night killing then why am I still around as well? The only reason I didn't suspect you as scum is I couldn't see the benefit of scum crime families keeping me alive.

It doesn't go without saying; we still have one brand new jury member with us, Jared. I am giving my thoughts and opinion, not threatening you; besides you know from experience I don't make veiled threats. I call it as I see it plain and simple. This feels like the only information you really want is whether or not the loyal jury investigator is still alive. That knowledge benefits only the scum. You have actually been leading the town on more days to split the vote and one of the two targets you wanted is now gone and turned up town, Amanda. I think you are leading the town blind and everyone who trusted you is ending up dead. I did indeed contact you; you kept asking for someone to contact you in private and give a reason for you to believe I had been protected by the doctor. I never asked you to change your vote; I never even said I was town. You even stated to me that you appreciated the conversation but that it wouldn't influence your vote. Vote to lynch me today if you want to. But when I come up town tomorrow; and I will; then what will you do? And what will you say to the blind town tomorrow when I turn up as loyal town juror member? Ok, thanks. What made Anthony more dangerous than Amanda? I agree on with this; Anthony thoughts? Gary has been unusually quiet.

The only true trust comes from the jury town investigator with a positive result on a town jury member contacting the one he/she investigated. So a PR could say 'oh I trust so and so by the way they seem in the thread' then by giving away the PR results to someone who hasn't been cleared by the investigator could just as likely be giving away that they have a PR to a scum. And that will not guarantee a scum lynch. The simple fact is this town jury is split and has been since Day 1; add to that the loyal town jury members who have been lynched acted scummy enough to be lynched. Asking PRs to contact someone they don't know for sure is town is a tactic of the scum to reveal who is left that has a PR and to see which PRs they have already taken out at night or by lynch. We did vote as a block (minus Tina) yesterday and look where it got us.....a loyal town jury member who looked scummy to a lot of other folks. Now mind you I would think that the Bellagio family members all voted for Amanda. Why? (A) They knew she was loyal town, (B) it made them look town by joining in, (C) if they had not joined in they would have stood out like a sore thumb and been questioned the next day. Which brings me to Tina....why did you choose to keep your vote on Anthony and not switch to Amanda? What made Anthony more scummy than Amanda? We still need to vote as a whole today rather than spit. Conversation helps so everyone needs to give their thoughts. Oh, and Tony, asking about PRs is what got Dez lynched. If you don't know what is going on in the town block, then there is a reason for it.

So here is what we have for four days of voting: Day1: Final Vote Count: 4 votes for Harry Oldman (fhomess): Tariq j, LegoMonorailFan, Umbra-Manis, Forresto 3 votes for Clifford Schauer (LegoMonorailFan): KotZ, Drunknok, Lady K 3 votes for Cathy Bridger (Drunknok): jluck, Kintober, Khscarymovie4 1 vote for Stephanie Diaz (Lady K): Kwatchi 1 vote for Dez Hunter (Forresto): Fhomess Nonvoting (0): Day 2: Final Vote Count: 5 votes for Anthony Dodson (Actor Builder): Khscarymovie4, Tariq j, jluck, KotZ, Forresto 5 votes for Tony (jluck): Lady K, Kintober, LegoMonorailFan, fhomess, Actor Builder 1 vote for Stephanie Diaz (Lady K): Kwatchi Nonvoting (1): Umbra-Manis Day3: Final Vote Count: 6 votes for Dez Hunter (Forresto): Kintober, Umbra-Manis, Actor Builder, Lady K, Khscarymovie4, LegoMonorailFan 4 votes for Amanda Callahan (Khscarymovie4): jluck, Tariq j, Forresto, Kwatchi 3 votes for Tina Hooper (Umbra-Manis): Penalty x3 Nonvoting (0) Day 4: Final Vote Count: 7 votes for Amanda Callahan (Khscarymovie4): LegoMonorailFan, Tariq j, Kwatchi, Actor Builder, Kintober, Lady K, jluck 2 votes for Anthony Dodson (Actor Builder): Umbra-Manis, Khscarymovie4 My thoughts so far are that based on the above voting patterns; I see that both Brock (Harry) and Alan (Clifford) voted Da1 for two loyal jury members. On Day 2 both of them voted for Anthony, Day 3 Alan was no longer with us and Brock voted for Amanda, and on Day 4 Brock voted Amanda again. Now if they are like other crime family members then they knew who was town; or depending on their win condition they may have known only each other. Now a paranoid thought on the Moletti crime family and they every other day kills; is that maybe they do not have a kill but a convert and have been converting loyal town jury members every other night and then the Bellagio have been killing on the other nights. That would mean there could be more of them than we know. On to the missing Bellagio crime family members amongst us. I think based on initial jury balance that it would make sense to have only two Bellagio family members if (as we know now) there were two Moletti crime family members; any more Bellagio and the balance would be off. So based on that and the above patterns; I still feel strongly that Tony is a Bellagio Crime family member. His call for PRs to contact someone they trust is disturbing; with so few left and so many that we thought were crime family members, due to their questionable behavior, showing up as loyal jury members....who is left to trust who? Looking at Tony's voting pattern, I see that on Day 1 and Day 2 he voted for Anthony. On Day 3 and Day 4 he voted for Amanda; we know she was loyal jury town now. To add others to this list: Jared: Day 1 and Day 2 voted for me. Day 3 and Day 4 he voted for Amanda. Tina: Day 1 she voted for Harry, Day 2 was no vote (with penalties on Day 3), Day 3 she voted Dez, Day 4 she voted Anthony. Anthony: Day 1 (Cathy voted for Clifford), Day 2 he voted for Tony, Day 3 he voted Dez and Day 4 he voted for Amanda. Gary: Day 1 he voted for Cathy, Day 2 he voted for Tony, Day 3 he voted for Dez and Day 4 he voted for Amanda. Stephanie: (Me): Day 1 voted for Clifford, Day 2 voted for Tony, Day 3 voted for Dez and Day 4 voted for Amanda. Anthony, Gary, and I all voted the same for days 2, 3 and 4; which is typical for town to vote for the same candidate in the end of the day for the lynch. Tina has had erratic voting pattern; with no vote and being the only one to stay on the vote for Anthony at the end of Day 4. Jared and Tony are the two that had very little switch voting and focused on the same target: Tony days 1 and 2 (Anthony), days 3 and 4 (Amanda) Jared days 1 and 2 (Stephanie-me), days 3 and 4 (Amanda) And now with Amanda turning up as loyal jury town we should look closer at this. The Bellagio crime family members know who is town and who is in their family. Thoughts? Other theories? Jury balance from the initial 12 members in the beginning; 3-4 would be standard crime family, with two crime families it would balance at 2 and 2; unless the Moletti are cult like in which case they have been recruiting members every quiet night; which is a very unsettling thought........and I hope I am wrong about it.

Good news, another Moletti was revealed; very bad news two more loyal jury members gone. I think we probably have two Bellagio and four loyal town left. I'll get a review of voting for us to look at.

That comment was directed at Anthony, not Amanda. So why the twist of my words? Fine by me: Vote: Amanda Callahan (Khscarymovie4) I want to look into Jared as well.

And so with us needing a lynch for today and from the looks of it Amanda isn't even going to show to vote; I feel that Anthony's lack of response in defense of himself and why we should not lynch him has brought me to the crossroads of who to vote for: The no show; lack of interest or the lack of defensive response. Thoughts from others?

And you didn't defend yourself why?? The lynch could go either way today. Voting a loyal townie jury member out is always a risk.....Dez is an example of this. A no lynch would be a worse risk at this point in the trial. And still no Amanda?

Judge, could we get a voting update and time left update please?

Both Anthony and Amanda have been saved and given a second chance; its what they have or haven't done with that second chance that I am looking at here. What specifically in the chunk of information that Amanda posted are you referring to? That would cause you to chose her over Anthony for today's lynch.

She isn't so much as flying under the radar; as it appears she just doesn't care to either help town, defend herself, or even try. This is either very lazy behavior or suspicious as a possible scum who has just given up. Either way she is not helping anyone. I noticed this as well. She isn't so much a distraction, more as a jury member who just does't care. She has a vote and knows it is important; lack of interest is just rude. Her alignment reveal won't really give us much to go on due to lack of posts on her part and most just voting to get rid of an easy lynch target who has done nothing to help at all. Not even caring to defend herself yesterday or today. We won't have a no lynch. As I have said either is fine with me today and if necessary I can seal the vote on either. As it is right now an Anthony lynch might provide us more info as he has had more time than his two predecessors to comment and vote and thus give us more to go on. Although I am still waiting on a defense from his as to why we shouldn't lynch him.

I agree with this statement. As it boils down to these two again as major day lynch choices and scum can hide easily on both bandwagons due to what Tony stated here. Amanda hasn't even made one comment on Day 4. Nothing. And reviewing her vote yesterday; and very lack luster defense of herself as one of the major lynch candidates make here stand out. Anthony by withholding a vote is just not helping the town. As I see it as the end nears for today with only about 1/2 day left we have two choices: Anthony or Amanda.....care to give us a reason to not vote you for a lynch? Unvote: Tony (jluck)

The theory is just my opinion based on common trial balance. Nothing gutsy; just based on the numbers from my experience on jury duty previously. Remember early voting as soon as the Judge clears us to vote can get the conversations going both for who is voting for who and gets the voted to (hopefully) speak out for themselves. As long as we have a lynch decision by the last half of the day then we are fine. As I said earlier today and previous days, Amanda or Anthony could end up being lynched if they continued to be suspicious. As before, if others don't find Tony as suspicious as me and a different choice is the lynch of the day then I will switch my vote as I did yesterday. You do bring up an important point and that is only 5 votes have been cast initially; where are the rest? My apologies, with your vote that should be 6 votes so far.

That wasn't the concern I had; the concern is how you with your experience know that Clifford switching back to Amanda would only equal the votes on Dez and thus result in a no lynch situation. Which by your continued focus on it early on Day 4 implies that you wanted and were ok with a no lynch. Experience has taught otherwise. The final hour of the day was too late to gather the needed votes for Amanda to be lynched. How could you be ok with no lynch; only the crime families benefit by no lynch; this is another reason you are at the top of my suspicion Dez was more suspicious than Amanda and made more sense for the day's lynch. Amanda isn't off the hook and could end up as today's lynch. What of value do you not see about the lynch and results? Again, Dez only thought I was scum after you kept brining it up by refusing to state that one of the possibilities is that I am town. And as usual you are only focused on one person; the rest of us that are active are brining up multiple suspicions. You have enough experience that your hyper focus on only one at a time is behavior in the past that I have seen in crime family member behavior. You want my analysis of Dez bandwagon...... but what of your analysis? Yes, scum were on both bandwagons; only a new juror with no or very little experience wouldn't know that. As to who? Why don't you provide analysis of each member on it then? As I have stated before since Day 1; you seem to only focus on one person at a time; what are your thoughts on others? This is the main problem I had yesterday and still have today; Amanda provides barely enough conversation to get by. Her defense today, if she bothers to give on, should give us a better sense of whether or not she should be the primary lynch target today. As I said before, I'm open to the idea depending on her response; but Tony and his responses are still the most suspicious. It would be nice if everyone decided to participate by getting a vote in. A vote early on generates discussion.