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"I noticed that several of my fellow Jedi had come to my defense, and I wanted to encourage them not to hastily vote for Master Vebb. Our votes are too valuable to waste in the heat of the moment, even if we do decide to lynch Vebb, we need to do it calmly and rationally. Without fear, without anger, solely with the good of the Temple in mind. "

"Ah, that's what's been bugging me about Master Vebb's argument. She's been making liberal use of Scum favorite WIFOM." "Right now, we could safely pick a new candidate for the lynch if all of us who have not yet voted agree on a candidate. However, if we are to pick a new candidate, we should do it soon. If we do pick a new candidate, I am more inclined to vote for Ili Seosty for her overly hasty and completely unjustified vote than for Jedi Monn. Monn, at least, had SOME reasoning behind him, even if it was rather flimsy." "And holy heck, no less than SIX statements appear while I try and finish mine?!"

"I'm not set on lynching Master Windu, as you'll note I have not yet cast my vote. In case no one else has noticed, we cannot unvote and so we have to be 100% sure before we place our votes. I'm willing to listen to any reasonable arguments before I make a final decision." "ATTENTION EVERYONE! I want to encourage you NOT to vote for Jedi Vebb. She may be rather aggressive and misguided, but we CANNOT afford to make rash, hasty decisions. If she continues her scummy behavior, then she may indeed be the best candidate, but we MUST give her every chance to redeem herself. Again, I say: DO NOT VOTE FOR NAHDAR VEBB!"

"If I were a Godfather, there would still be ways to track or watch or investigate me. It makes NO sense for me to be this proactive for the Jedi if I were in fact a Sith, Godfather or not." "The rest of your statement is completely incomprehensible, anyone want to break it down for me? "

"I repeat, how in karking blazes did I avoid your statements?!" "On the contrary, I've posted my suspicions, made accusations, I've tried my hardest to be as clear and helpful as humanly Ithorianly possible. I've counseled boldness to the inactive and caution to the hasty, and attempted to shape those of us here into a strong, logical population of loyal Jedi. I don't see how that isn't Pro-Town."

"Someone has contacted me privately with the identity of the Shrink. The Shrink has yet to awaken, so I still have to confirm that this person was telling the truth, but I see no advantage to either of them lying to me about this, especially considering I had barely thought of either of them this entire time. "

"Well, as I just said, my third point is invalid because I just learned that there is a Serial Killer on the loose. I stand by my reasoning as to why my being a target for several Night Actions is a good thing (or at the very least, not a bad thing)." "I fail to see how I am 'avoiding your points'. You were questioning why I'd want to put myself forward as a target for our investigative Night Actions. I responded: first, it lets both the investigator and myself know that neither of us is a Sith, allowing us to work together moving forward. There are also secondary benefeits; as I pointed out, a target on me is a target NOT on the Cop or other investigative roles, and having multiple roles centered around me makes it easier for the loyal Jedi Power Roles to find and coordinate each other (they'll all get matching results). I read your points against me and responded to them, explaining my reasoning for my behavior. I don't see how that's deserving of your vote. "

"Master Vos, have you recently been clubbed in the head by a wampa? Your statement is most incomprehensible. I would gladly respond to a reasoned accusation against me, but as it stands I'm not sure what argument is being made, so I can't exactly respond to it, can I? Try repeating yourself more clearly and I'll gladly reply. " "On the contrary, as Master Unduli has pointed out, "A Jedi should both acknowledge when his suggestion is flawed, but not be erratic and change his mind every few minutes either." If I were looking for an easy lynch, I would have added my vote to the bandwagon on Padawan Tano." "However, this bandwagon on Tano is doubly dangerous; not only does it put a likely innocent Jedi in danger, but it also tempts other impatient Jedi to join the wagon simply because it's there. We need to come up with another candidate before Padawan Tano's wagon grows too large to stop; unfortunately, I don't believe we have enough evidence yet to definitively choose between the proposed candidates." "Padawan Tano is now showing wisdom; I agree with her reasoning against Seosty. Jedi Seosty, do you have anything to say for yourself?"

To be fair, you DID deserve that suspicion, we were just giving it for the wrong reasons.

"OK, let me address this before I head back to my chanbers for the evening." "We were more suspicious of Ahsoka's refusal to acknowledge the flaws of her plan than for coming up with it in the first place. Even after we stated why a no-lynch would be a bad idea, she continued to support it. That said, her most recent statements seem sincere, and better suspects have popped up." "I've tried my best to reason things out and explain my suspicions, and I've responded sufficiently to all accusations against me." "Master Windu is suspicious not because he accused me, but because he is fence-sitting, making points but following them up with 'of course, I could be wrong, it's just a feeling...' That sort of prevarication is indeed quite scummy." "Lastly, I would like to point out that Euna Iladru is again trying to appear helpful without actually contributing anything, this time by simply summarizing the arguments already put forth. " "Well, I am heading for my chambers. I am not yet confident enough in any one candidate to place my vote, but hopefully that will change by the time I finish my meditations. I will see you all later."

"Master Moudama had a better reason for voting than Jedi Seosty. True, he did not state it in his post, but he actively voiced his suspicions and reasons for voting not too long before he actually voted. Though it is premature. " "In any event, Jedi Seosty deserves the scrutiny more than Master Moudama, as Seosty's behavior has been far less helpful and far more erratic. However, both of them are outclassed by Master Windu's strange behavior..."

"Rumor has it the last of the Duplovian giants, a young seafaring Admiral by the name of Cameron, struck a deal with a powerful Zeigfried wizard whose name has been lost to time. In exchange for extraordinarily long life, the Duplovian promised to serve the ancient, magical family for the rest of his days. Presumed to be another Zeigfried experiment gone wrong, "Big Cam" can often be found running errands near the docks on behalf of the mages, wistfully remembering his days as the pride of the once-mighty Duplovian navy."

"Apologies for the sudden absence, I was off watching Commander Glee." "Yes, Ahsoka's last two statements strike me as quite sincere. I wouldn't trust her with role identities or anything, but in light of recent events, I would not rush to lynch her." "I am torn between Jedi Seosty and Master Windu. However, since both C-3PO and Jedi Kellyns seem to suspect Master Windu more, I will UnFoS: Ahsoka Tanao (MacK) and FoS: Mace Windu (Nightshroud99).

[handwave]Calm thyself, young one. Have patience. It will take quite some time, and you are not the first on the list. Sit back, relax, enjoy. [/handwave]

"Moons and stars, Master Windu, stop fence-sitting and karking commit to a statement! I'm not telling you to vote, I'm telling you to quit prevaricating and make a solid accusation already! You're known for your decisiveness, Master, what's the matter with you? "

"What the kark? Lurking, saying nothing of ANY value, and then all of a sudden just voting out of nowhere without ANY reasoning or justification for your vote? Do you even realize how scummy that makes you look? I mean, I have my suspicions about Jedi Tanao, but if you'll notice, I have NOT voted for her. I want to give her every chance to redeem herself before making a final condemnation." "There's still PLENTY of time to reason and discuss without starting an unnecessary bandwagon on someone so early into our voting period. No, you're just trying to cover for your scummy behavior, and you want to appear decisive and active so as to get off my "not very active" list. Sorry, little one, but that is not helping your case." "Let's also note how little attention she's paid to the conversations today--rather than voicing her opinions on all of the suspects we've put forth today, she seems to have simply picked the top suspect off of my list and then voted. I'm sure tomorrow she'll say 'oh, I had no idea we can't unvote' as an excuse for starting the bandwagon if Ahsoka turns up loyal. " "Congratulations, Jedi Seosty. If you're a Sith, you've just made a huge blunder that will destroy you and your team. If you're just a careless Jedi, you've potentially started a bandwagon on an innocent Jedi, and made it that much easier for the Scum to come along and pick her off. I have half a mind to vote for you right now, but I'm going to wait patiently and see what other leads materialize." "Let me be clear: Jedi Tanao was at the top of my Scum list. But now? That place belongs to Ili Seosty. "

"Yes, it is indeed the airspeeder of those who had made only one or two very short, rather unhelpful statements up to that point. Suffice to say, you have stepped firmly out of that airspeeder. " "...though upon further consideration of the metaphor, perhaps I should come up with a better one; with all respect to Jedi Skywalker, stepping out of an airspeeder mid-flight isn't exactly the best idea. "

"While your points about Master Moudanma are most valid, I must point out that it is not Ahsoka's theory itself that is suspicious, it is her steadfast refusal to admit how unhelpful it was, and her overly defensive response to the comments debunking her theory that bring suspicion upon her." "And as to you, Jedi Ahsoka, why are you giving up so easily? None of us have cast our votes yet, why are you so convinced you will be the one lynched? Giving up is a Scum trait, girl, for a truly loyal Jedi would fight to the end to prevent the other Jedi from making a terrible mistake. You're digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself, child..."

"All right. It is time to vote. Let's recap, shall we?" "The Suspects:" "Ahsoka Tanao: Has a rather suspicious plan about not voting, and refuses to admit how untenable it is. So far, my top suspect." "Plo Koon: spoke once, and with a supremely obvious and unhelpful comment. It might have worked out for him if he had followed up on it at all, but given that it has been his ONLY contribution..." "Actually, speaking of Plo Koon, Quinlan Vos, Saesee Tiin, Ili Seosty and Ithra Srryn are all in the same airspeeder." "R2-D2: R2's comments themselves haven't been too scummy, but the droid's insistence on not explaining its beeps and whistles is confusing at best and disruptive at worst. Anakin, you're good with technology, surely you can grab a spare vocabluator from the droid repair room and jury-rig it to the astromech, right? We'd all be very grateful if you did." "Lastly, we have Euna Iladru, whose comments have been short and low-key, but are ultimately not very helpful. They are passive statements rather than active accusations or counter-accusations." "Interestingly, of the five of us who are non-canon characters not listed in the Archives, three of them have come up as rather suspicious, and one of them (Hugar Ssiht) is on the fence in my book. Only one of them (Coryn Kellyns) comes off as genuinely trying to help us Jedi find and cast out the Sith." "Next, The Trusted:" "C-3PO, the protocol droid programmed for etiquette, not metagaming paranoia, has done a remarkable job thus far in debunking fallacious arguments and pointing out suspicious behavior. Despite my earlier comment, I currently have full confidence in him." "Coryn Kellyns also seems most trustworthy to me. His plans involving the Finger of Suspicion, while borrowed from Master Modanma, have allowed us to outright state suspicions in an easy-to-read format, which helps keep things clear and orderly for the loyal Jedi. In addition, his reasoning is sound and his efforts appear genuine. If he turns out to be a Sith, I will be very surprised. Of course, he could be another Sleeping Beauty, but I think I've learned a few things since then." "Lastly, we have Anakin Skywalker. While he did contribute to Ahsoka's bizzare no-lynch scenario, I get the impression that he was genuinely trying to examine and explain the options--note how much of the time, he has been pointing out the flaws and disadvantages in such a plan, albeit in a rather confusing manner. Call it a gut instinct intuitive feeling, but we Jedi are taught to trust our feelings, so in the case of Jedi Skywalker, that's exactly what I'll do."

"I'm going to FoS: Ahsoka Tanao (MacK) for her continuous refusal to abandon a blatantly pro-Scum plan despite discussions in MANY previous Mafia games the wisdom of the elders AND refutations from many Jedi (and droids) arguing against it. There is ALWAYS some sort of evidence that justifies a lynch. Even if the suspect turns up innocent, the lynch has produced voting patterns and arguments that can be used to sniff out Scum, plus, as Jedi Kellyns has pointed out, innocent people who are overly scummy are a liability to us on later Days when we are trying to identify new suspects. The bottom line is, those who are overly scummy are very likely to get themselves lynched, whether they are actually Scum or not. If they're lynched sooner rather than later, it is indeed regrettable, but at least those Jedi among us who use arcane Force powers in the night will not wast their actions on innocent but scummy Jedi."

Do you have any that are just plain inappropriate? Erm, I mean...

"Master Skrall, I have but two questions: Seal or Confuse, and Leofwena or Calibor?" "Actually, I have changed my mind. I will use the Scroll of Confusion on Lord Calabor from the Back Row. I suggest the rest of you target Lady Leofwena." "Soldiers! Watch our backs, make sure no one sneaks up on us!" "I'll take Lady Leofwena from the Front Row."

Given Heroica's new "R" rating, I don't think I'm the only one who spotted this...

"No, no, don't misunderstand me. You are pointing out flawed arguments and suspicious behavior, and I am doing the same. I was not attempting to aim a Finger of Suspicion at you, I was merely listing all possible suspects and sources of suspicion, as Anakin did just a few minutes before. You have just as much right to point out what you find suspicious or fallacious as I do. Feel free to dismiss my observation as metagaming paranoia; I only know that I am a loyal Jedi, and that the Sith know this. I automatically have a degree of suspicion towards anyone who would step forward to defend me, because of the events of those holovids. I felt you are loyal to the Jedi even when I made that statement, but based on that bedtime story I spoke of, I also know that characters like me are easily fooled by crafty Scum who appear to be good guys but, in fact, are not. Like I said, metagaming paranoia. " "Allow me to put this elegantly: if we lynch we have some probability of lynching a Sith. If we do not, we have a 0% chance of lynching a Sith. Given that (unlike certain situations) there are not specific members among us that the Sith need to eliminate, there is no reason for us NOT to take the chance and try to eliminate a Sith."

"Indeed, which is why I hope we can get a few hours' extention on our voting deadline. Master Yoda, would you be willing to agree to this?"