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Oh, I see! "Hlin, attack Terca from the front row." Guts attacks the Riot cart, then Uvarii Twice, from the front row. Battle order: Hlin Nagure Sorrow Nerwen Guts Maurice Mizuki

What about this, You have be part of a party that kills one of the bosses in the unlimited quest? I actually really like that idea, it´s a solid challenge. An upgraded Base class is something a lot of people will want, I think. So what do you do? You make it hard, or at least challenging to get. Lore-wise, you can make it make sense, of course. Scarcity in gaming is great. Not everyone should have access to all expert classes, and the upgraded base classes should be no different, I feel. Perhaps other people might have some other requirements that would make sense?

It says Maurice does a Shield, is that correct? if so, you can autorun the round, if you like?

Yes absolutely. All the other expert classes have some other requirement, being it needed to done a specific quest or posessing a special item. If there was not a barrier to getting access to these, it would be bad.

I like the idea. Here's some things I would like, though: - Give some barrier to entry, at least. I think the idea for the expert classes is very cool, because you actually need to do certain stuff in order to be able to get to be one. As for WHAT exactly? I don't know, not gold related, since some would have a distinct advantage. Perhaps you need to get to a certain point in the unlimited quest or something like that? -Change the names. Archmage and High Cleric arefine, but the rest are pretty awful to me. The clear connection to the base class does not to be clear from the name, really, I'm sure we can remember, I would say Fighter, Reaver or Gladiator for Barbarian, Scout, Keeper or Archer for Ranger, Crusader, Champion or Warrior for Knight. Duelist, Shadow for Rogue. Not very important. -Job trait suggestions: Knight: Diplomacy, Intimidation, Some sort of out of battle protect from traps thing. Barbarian: Restoration, Intimidation, BARBARIAN SMASH. Can smash through objects at the cost of 1 WP of a weapon, . Ranger: Animal Talk, Track Down, Keen Eye. Mage: Spellcasting, Something that allows them to exchange a certain number of health for ether, probably 10:1 or something, should be done so it can not be misused with the help of a cleric, so say they can only do it once between battles. Cleric: Healing, Spiritism, Out of battle Healing is free, free remedying?. Rogue: Flee, ´Badass Lockpicking`, Stealth? Quick Fingers? Something that allows them to throw two throwing weapons in one turn?

Yeah, I don´t think there´s any reason why both weapons should not be daggers.

I thought it was decided a while back that weapons are just basic categories and all similair usages except for the Zoot weapons?

I see what you are doing, trying to get you to be the only one with a lifestealing weapon... I´m thinking of going Alchemist, they can use daggers. I am kind of hoping some cool QM does what WBD did in his first quest, the enhance your weapon with stuff!

I need to find a practical use for Guts. Right now he deals damage, and that´s it, basically.

I'd need to be able to finish Quest 40 then at least...

And: I was playing this awesome game called Chivalry the other day (Basically a first person shooter, but in medieval times with axes and stuff, it's great.) And in there, you can be an archer that carries around a shield, which he can plant down and fire behind it, perhaps that's how wardens do it?

I'd say they do.

I knew a ruling was made about it. Just the other way then, .

Oh? I must admit that I can't find it in Quest 50 when I just looked. And Mirror AND Hex. The Witch class is awesome, dude. Look through Quest 40 and you see Atramor is really spicing up the battles, very fun to QM, as well. Angry Seaweed allies, they might be the best thing.

"Very good. If you need to, take this time to heal or buff up. They won't be able to hurt us. Hlin, attack Terca from the front row." Guts attacks the Riot Cart twice with Lifestealer, from the front row. Battle order: Nerwen Maurice Sorrow Guts Guts Nagure Hlin Mizuki

I think it was decided for Hybros that weapons that hit multiple enemies on a hit or crit only give the assassination chance on the main target, I'm assuming it'd would work the same for dual weapons, so that's why I did not say assassin.

I think people just mean to be the most powerful for the class they are, the way to optimize that is through items, for example: A druid should get items that enhance their healing and make sure they aren't stopped healing. A spellcaster that focusses on scrolls (Flipz), should get items that help that, Skrall, having a 20WP weapon that is also slowed, optimized that weapon by getting an item that stopped him from being slowed. Sarge is already pretty powerful, he got an extremely powerful artifact and a very cool weapon, he can always attack four enemies now. What I would do is try to figure out ways how to enlarge the usefulness of that. With the items that you have now, Witch would be a great advanced class for Sarge, Get a Witch's amulet, and you are able to deadly poison four enemies in one turn.

I don't see 12 SP as pretty pointless.

"Nagure, Mizuki, switch targets, Nagure, attack from the back row so you can soak up the damage."

I'd hoped Hlin had the shield he had earlier, but I guess he's an adventurer now, and no longer a guardsman!

I just realised something, Nagure the yeti, got a yeti-coat. Is that a coat for yeti's or a coat made out of yeti's?

"Nagure, attack the leader from the back row! Maurice, try to go for Uvarii, Hlin, attack Terca from the front row. " Guts attacks Wostenheim and the Riot Cart and from the front row. Battle order: Nagure Hlin Sorrow Nerwen Guts Maurice Mizuki

Not going on about it being a cliche or not, but Quest 53 IS about a dark power rising.

"Very well, remain undetected, and good luck. Hlin, take the weapon." Guts takes the Spring Water as well. "Anything else someone needs to ask? If not, we will be off to the Armoury."

"Very well. Your belongings are probably next door, in the Armoury, It should be our next stop. It is heavily protected, though, we are going to need your help. Vres, do you have any skill in battle? Hlin, would my Hollow Dagger be of use to you, until you get your sword back?" Guts checks to see what the bottle contains on the stand next to the barred area.