Ferro-Friki

Thanks guys! :) I did try some more complicated designs, but they didn't work as well. In the end, the more simple and straight-forward, the better. 1 x 6 bricks with channels would work better, but I don't think they'll be coming up with that piece anytime soon. Don't worry, no atoms were split in the making of this train, just some transparent bars and ribbed hoses I tried to do her justice, this is a very beloved engine in Spain

Amazing model! Very well captured. I really like the details on the roof and the undercarriage, it’s very hard to get good reference pictures of those. I’m happy she got to meet the remaining EA in Denmark. It’s always special when you can get the MOC and real engine together. Where did you get the decals? They look high quality.

Hey, these all look pretty good. I understand you don't like round streamlined trains? Now that you mention it, I don't really like the ICE3 that much either. It’s objectively one of the best AVE trains we have here, but it’s just not interesting to me. Of course, you and anyone. It’s not patented or anything

Thank you! I don’t think anyone has called one of my trains a piece of art before :) Be careful! If other Spanish train nerds heard you they might come after you!

Hello everyone! I have another MOC I’d like to share here, the 251-004. After the success of the S-269 (“La Japonesa”) in Spain, RENFE ordered Mitsubishi an advanced, more powerful version of the engine. Which turned out to be the S-251. As such, both locomotives share a lot of similarities, most noticeably, an almost identical bogie design. Although as you can probably tell, the S-251 has 3 bogies instead of the S-269’s 2. This earned the S-251 the nickname “Japonesa y media” (Japanese and a half). You might even notice the similarities with JNR’s Class EF66 locomotives, very closely related to the Series 251. (Photo by Javier López Ortega on Flickr) Despite being very capable of providing passenger services, the S-251’s power was better suited for pulling freight. Since the beginning of their work life, they were employed in the treacherous mountain pass of Pajares, between Asturias and León. Unfortunately, since the opening of the new Pajares tunnel, the reign of the S-251 in the mountain pass is not what it used to be anymore. They can still be seen running around the region, as well as pulling containers and other cargo between Barcelona and Zaragoza. In an effort to homogenize the corporate image, since the late 80s, RENFE applied a new livery to all of its locomotives. With yellow cabs and grey bodies, the age of the taxi livery begun. It lasted until 2005, when RENFE was split into two public entities, ADIF, for infrastructure operation, and Renfe Operadora, for train operation. Accordingly, a new locomotive livery followed. Very similar to the taxi one but replacing the yellow for white (borrowed from the AVE) with a magenta stripe, the new company colors. With the recent introduction of the S-256 (Stadler Euro 6000) into its fleet, Renfe revealed a completely new livery out of nowhere. Bravely embracing the striking magenta color with broad diagonal white stripes, I really thought all locomotives would adopt this scheme. Years later, all engines apart from the 256s have kept the boring old 2005 livery, and it doesn’t seem like that will change anytime soon. Maybe one day... I really think it suits the S-251. The 251-004 is the only engine of its kind to preserve the original blue and yellow livery. This is due to a successful effort by the Railway Friends Associations of Gijón and Madrid, and Renfe employees. This earned her the title of “La Reina” (The Queen). My MOC of the 251-004 has 12 M size wheels and a 9V style magnet from HA Bricks. It is designed to be powered by two PF L motors and a BuWizz battery box. It’s a bit cramped on the inside, so it can’t fit LEGO battery boxes since they’d be too tall. The challenge with this engine was creating a functional middle bogie. Not only does it need to pivot, but also slide side to side. After many overengineered failed attempts, a very simple combination of two 1 x 4 bricks with channel and an upside-down 2 x 2 tile with technic pin connected to two 1 x 2 plates with door rails did the trick. This also allows the middle bogie (unpowered) to move slightly up and down, which ensures that the other two bogies will always be on the rails when running on uneven track. Unfortunately, the locomotive can’t navigate R40 curves, and it’s restricted to R56 or higher. Some of the part choices and techniques I’m particularly proud of in this MOC are the windshield assemblies, a technique similar to many amazing diesel-electric locomotive MOCs I’ve seen out there, the blue sword spikes at the fronts, the boomerangs as the number plate nose fixture, the blue claw pieces as the windshield visors, or the SNOT side grills, which although not too complex, took a few attempts to get right. It also has some silver TrimLine tape to recreate the iconic steel “whiskers” and custom stickers.

That’s true, although they are by no means bad. Still, when I’m sourcing bricks for a MOC and Bricklink tells me I need to order from 8 different shops, each with its own shipping fee… Reducing it to just 2 Bricklink orders and a Webrick order really makes up for the small quality difference. I’ve never seen these before. And Webrick sells them? Are the side studs sturdy and well aligned? I’ll play around with them, they look useful. @LEGO Train 12 Volts, @Shiva, @zephyr1934 Thanks! :) Yup, it’s a 3 bogie B’B’B’ engine. They were a lot more common in Asia, but there’s a few of them in Europe. Nowadays manufacturers prefer Co’Co’ configurations. Middle bogies can be troublesome. Thanks, but I’m happy with my current bufferbeam solution. It works for me, and I like seeing a prominent hook on one of them. Oh, the S-251 never double-heads trains. She’s way too power hungry. Two of them can easily shut down an electrical substation. At most you can occasionally see a broken down 251 being towed by another.

Thank you! The colors really invoke a warm sunset as you wind down for a good night of sleep onboard. I don’t rule out building matching coaches in the future. I was able to post links from mostly other places, but two of the pictures are from Flickr with lower quality… She is not beating the shoebox allegations Well, I have good news for you then, because this engine has a sequel! The S-251. Here’s the bogie with the magnet. It has a wide range of movement and is R40-proof. That’s a good solution for European couplers, the chain is certainly closer to the real thing, and the idea of working buffers is very intriguing. However, the magnets are the most versatile and convenient solution in my experience. They couple automatically, you can decouple them without even touching them just by pulling on the coaches, and are compatible with pretty much any Lego train, official or custom, ever made. Even if they are slightly toyish. Thank you! :) They're the reflective tail signal holders, in case the engine has to be towed. I got them from Webrick. They have many pieces in colors Lego has never produced. I get many of my bricks from them, I've never been much of a purist.

It looks great! It’s based on the Azuma trains, right? I really like the narrower windows of the restaurant car, I always like when the inside purposes of the coaches manifest on the outside like that. I’m really curious about the tilting mechanism. I attempted building a tilting train a long time ago and it wasn’t easy. I tried using gears too, but the teeth didn’t align right and it caused the coaches to always lean slightly to one side, even on straight track. Balance is also very important, especially with the battery box. I understand you put yours above the motor? You might get better results fitting it in between the bogies, bellow the floor level of the train. It looks like there’s space for it in there, although it would get in the way of the interior. The closer you get the center of gravity to the tilting axle of rotation the better it will behave. Otherwise if the train heads into a curve too quickly, the additional effort the bogies would take to tilt the body of the engine might make it derail.

Here’s my latest MOC, RENFE’s Series 269 locomotive in the Estrella livery. Designed by Mitsubishi, crew and train fans alike resorted to calling the S-269 “La Japonesa” (the Japanese). (Photo by Felix Serrano on Listadotren) Due to her versatility, there were 269s all over the country. By themselves they were adequate at pulling freighters, could always be coupled together for more power, and were more than fast enough for pulling passenger trains. One of the services they provided was the Estrella express night trains, which featured this iconic tan, brown and orange livery. Out of all their liveries, by far my favorite. Although RENFE has long retired these engines from its fleet, the Japonesas have found a second life working for private companies in Spain, most notably Alsa, which uses some of them for pulling historic tourist trains. (The design went through some minor modifications since the making of this render) This MOC is designed to be powered by two PF L motors and a BuWizz battery box, although it’s spacious enough to fit alternative power options. It has M wheels from HA Bricks geared 1:1 with the motors and can navigate R40 curves. I used silver TrimLine modelling tape for the windshield and side window frames, a detail that in my opinion really captures the look of the engine. Some of the part choices and techniques I’m particularly proud of are the whip pieces for the double heading cable, ribbed hose pieces for the secondary suspension, black sausages with minifigure hands for the brake and main air tank pipes, or the entire not-quite-flat, slightly angled cabin front. It also features a 9V era magnet from HA Bricks at the cabin 2 end, and a more realistic but non-functional hook at the cabin 1 end. Also, thanks to Flickr for not letting me post full quality picture links of photos that I uploaded myself. What is wrong with you :)

I like my trains realistic and all, but I understand and appreciate cartoonish, toyish depictions. This is none of that, it just looks bad in a sad way. We can all agree that 18+ means nothing now, right? It’s just there (in this case at least) to comfort adults too self-conscious about buying toys for children. And what is up with that 3D printed piece? That is not what Lego is about. We’re getting entire preassembled toys now? What’s next, a ragdoll with cloth garments sown on? And that finish… it looks like it has been chewed on by a child…

Having both locomotives powered would be the ideal solution, and more realistic too. The thing is I currently don’t have any BuWizz battery boxes. I was hoping one would be enough. Buying two at the same time would be rough, those things aren’t cheap… But as long as I leave the option to motorize the other head I can always get another BuWizz and more motors eventually. That is an interesting solution that I hadn’t thought of. I imagine I would need a technic axle shaft running from one bogie pivot to the other. I’m not sure how easily the battery box would fit in the engine if it had to share space with the shaft. Maybe I’ll try this for another train in the future. The thing is, this model was designed from the beginning with two motors in the engine, and the motors are cheaper than the BuWizz 2.0 battery box after all. On another note, it seems like this S-102 will stay as a display piece for the time being. I’m ditching the 7-wide scale. That 1 stud difference compared to 8-wide really makes a difference, specially when motorizing. But I’m working on a very similar Talgo train now, the S-106, and all the lessons I learned with the S-102 apply there too. It’s an 8-wide model and I’m making sure from the start it’s motorized and with easy to access electronics. Thanks!

I’m very glad they’re back. I had to get some of their wheels for myself. However, it looks like the website isn’t all there yet. I appreciate the humor in the description of the product, but it would have been nice if they confirmed there were 8 wheels with rubber rings, for example.

They’re actually 3D printed MS wheels, even the holes have real depth. I bought them from BricktheBrick and painted the actual discs with acrylic paint. The wheels look amazing, but the quality leaves a bit to be desired, even after sanding they offer a lot of resistance when rolling. For a display train it’s fine, but if I end up completing the train and motorizing it I’ll have to get wheels from somewhere else. Originally I had my eyes on HA Bricks, but Lego had other plans for me… Thank you! I agree, I wish I could have built the Avlo irl. It's a gorgeous and unusual color. I'm afraid it hasn't moved much. Partly because of the heavy friction of the BricktheBrick wheels, because the loose rodal of the café car won't behave propperly unless coupled to another Talgo coach, and because of the little time I have to tinker with the train and run tests. And of course, the engine I've built is a dummy and the actual power engine is still in the works. After checking on Studio, the half I've physically built is almost exactly at 3000 pieces. The complete train should be at around 6000. I have an album dedicated to this train on my flickr page. It’s actually a pretty good record of the entire development process. Thanks! :)

Thank you! Designing the bogies is always one of my favorite parts of building a train. Thanks! I've noticed that most passenger trains rarely have completely vertical walls, It’s something I’ve been experimenting with lately. I ditched the magnets since this is an EMU that pretty much never gets decoupled or swapped around with other vehicles (also the good magnets are wayy to expensive). I think I’ve come up with a solution that, from the light testing I’ve done, seems to work fine going forwards and in reverse. The yellow bogie is the rear of the engine, the blue assembly has the single rodal with a bit of the underside frame, and the red pieces represent all the rotation points. It could do with a little refining though, and I’ve no idea how this could misbehave in a complete, motorized train. Thank you! :)

Thank you! They were fun to come up with as well. Thanks! That’s all it is for now, an idea. Unfortunately, the motors take too much structural importance and would be very hard to get to. I should probably redesign it pretty much from scratch. Thank you! With an unusual shape like that I had to make sure I got it right.

Beautiful engine! I may not be familiar with the source material, but I can tell it does it justice.

What a gorgeous engine AND consist. I now need to watch the film in order to appreciate it even more!

Hello everyone! I think it’s time I shared something over here I’ve been working on. This is RENFE’s AVE S-102 (Talgo 350) made out of Lego. You might already be familiar with this Spanish high-speed train since other talented builders have shared their own wonderful versions in this forum. Here’s a picture of the real thing if you’re not familiar with it (photo by Adrià Pàmies on flickr). If you didn’t know, you won’t be surprised to learn that this EMU has earned itself the nickname “Pato” (Duck) due to the shape of the head. Very reminiscent of Japanese Shinkansen as a result of following the same aerodynamic principles. These trains are composed of 2 tractor heads at each end and 12 Talgo coahes. In Lego form I decided to shorten it to just 6 coaches, enough to feature one of each unique variation. The Talgo 350 is employed by RENFE for both its AVE and Avlo services. The Avlo brand, which stands for “alta velocidad low cost” (a bit of Spanglish there for you), being the equivalent and direct response to SNCF’s Ouigo. Originally, I intended to build the Avlo version because I find the livery very striking and unlike anything running in Europe, let alone Spain. I got as far as designing every coach, but as soon as I got to the heads I realized that the magenta brick palette is too limited to achieve the shape, so I turned it into an AVE instead. Turning it into an AVE brought its own challenge though. In order to achieve the not quite boxy look of the coaches and keep the magenta stripe running all along the length of the train I had hinge the lower section of the walls at a very gentle angle to get it just right. It’s almost imperceptible, but in my opinion, it makes all the difference. Unfortunately, as much as I’d like to have the entire train brick-built, I just don’t have the space necessary for it. That’s why for now I’m happy to only have one of the heads (the unpowered one) and only three of the coaches as a static display. Of course, this being a Talgo train, it features their signature single pair of wheels between coaches (rodal). Thanks to @Hod Carrier's brilliant rodal design this train can navigate pretty much any track geometry (with some restrictions) while maintaining a distance of barely more than a stud between coaches. I don’t rule out building the rest of the coaches and the other engine in the future, as well as motorizing the entire train. However, the remaining head’s final design is still pretty much a work in progress. For now, the intention is to power both bogies with two geared-up PF L motors and a BuWizz 2.0. I’ve never tackled a project of this size before, so there are many things I’m not sure of yet. I’m worried the two PF L Motors won’t be enough to pull the entire consist. Or even if it has enough pulling power, I’m not sure the rodal design can handle the weight of so many heavy coaches. In that case, I suppose restricting the train to wider radius curves would help it run better.

It looks amazing @Sérgio! Since I’m more familiar with this locomotive, I can tell even more how accurate it is. Although funnily enough, the round buffers look oddly wrong to me instead of the more rectangular ones I’m used to seeing on Renfe’s S-252. I love the subtle detail of the upper windshield corners. It does so much to capture the look. And the ventilation grills feel so satisfyingly flush against the walls and roof. That huge grey wall is a pity though, it’s like a blank canvas begging to be filled. But hey, that’s CP’s business…

Just what I need, thanks!

Some people were suggesting replacing the OE engine with the EN one, and in that way combine the strengths of both sets. I thought that sounded very intriguing, but I haven’t found anyone who has done so yet. Anyway, here’s a render of how that would look like: Honestly, I like it! As someone who missed the EN (classic statement) I thought I just had to wait until Lego released an even better steam engine. Unfortunately, in my opinion, that hasn’t happened in 14 years, and counting… So I think it’s about time for me to get my own EN, and thanks to the OE set, the new tender and coaches look wonderful behind the loco! Since we’re at it, I’m pretty sure there were people selling third party sticker sheets for the EN, is that still the case? Does anyone know where I can get one?

Hoarding is concerningly widespread in the AFOL community, even encouraged. And I think the hobby suffers for it. When Lego sets/MOCs are fighting each other in order not to get suffocated on a packed shelve, to a point that they all blend together into an incomprehensible mass of multi-colored plastic, you know you’re too far gone. Lego cities are a great way to display sets and MOCs, however they’re very easy to mess up. Often, AFOLs miss the forest for the trees and cram as many sets together as possible not considering any general composition rules, harmony or breathing space. Needless to say, there’s a lot of personal opinion here.

If anyone still cares about the whole engine debacle, I would like to add my two cents if you don’t mind. For those of you arguing that those who are unsatisfied with TLG’s OE engine should either modify it or build a MOC altogether: This is a 300€ set we’re talking about, and I don’t now about you, but that’s a hefty price tag in my opinion. Buying a 300€ set and then having to modify it to achieve the intended result is beyond my comprehension. Besides, if we’re going to have to buy separate bricks, we’re better off building a MOC, which brings me to the next point: I think the argument that those of us unsatisfied with the engine should build our own version entirely from scratch is very much right. Here’s the thing though, I don’t want to. Building a MOC, in my experience, is a very extensive process which involves research, measurements, sketches and a lot of trial and error. Of course, someone more experienced than me might be able to create MOCs with a lot more ease, however, you can’t deny that building a MOC is very different from purchasing a set from LEGO. Sometimes I just want to get excited about an upcoming set, buy it, and build it in a cozy winter afternoon during the holidays. All the bricks come in the same box along with a neat instruction booklet guiding me comfortably through an entirely new and full of surprises building experience. Basically, what I’m saying is that us MOCers would like to have the same privilege to enjoy LEGO sets. Maybe I’ve become too much of a “train expert” and I’ve reached a point of no return, in such a way that no train set will ever be able to scratch my itch. After seeing all the steam engines LEGO had to offer since 2009 I’m inclined to believe that is very much the case. However, you can’t blame me for thinking otherwise… Just this year we got the 10318 Concorde set, and in 2021 the 10294 Titanic. A couple of mind-blowing accurate models of two renowned luxury vehicles, packed to the brim with intricate details. Forgive me for being too naïve, but I expected just as much from The Orient Express. I guess you could argue that the Concord and Titanic sets were never intended to fly or sail respectively, whereas the Orient Express is (most likely) meant to run on track. Cue in the ever-popular argument that TLG’s train track is too restrictive, and only the existing train wheels in a very precise configuration are able to pass LEGO’s strict quality control. Which, okay, I don’t have the energy to argue against this statement. Let’s take that 4-6-0 Hogwarts Express/Lone Ranger configuration that everyone is talking about and use it as our OE base. We could have still received a more realistic steam engine smokebox, boiler, firebox and cab combination on top, that both “train experts” and LEGO fans who aren’t so keen on trains alike could have enjoyed. Again, if you yourself like this set and are excited to get it, I’m genuinely happy for you. I’m just sad I’m not one of you. Sincerely, A tired LEGO train fan who never learns.

I was wondering if they would reference the Agatha Christie novel. I was not expecting them to switch things up and have the engine be the victim instead! I guess you could call this set Murder OF the Orient Express…

Yet another stunning engine! The green and red color combination makes such lively locomotives. All the details in such a small space make it even livelier! The flatbed wagon is great as well.