Merlo

We had castle recently, we had pirates recently more than once, bionicle I'm not sure Lego would feel marks the anniversary properly. That leaves space. Since it's just a one off and is supposed to be special it's probably going to be pricier and aimed slightly more at AFOLs. So... likely a recreation of a classic space base + ship as the most iconic (if only for being the first) representation of Lego space?

This got a chuckle out of me :) I have no idea why people want darker colors, there are probably many reasons. I only know why I want them and that is because I've grown up with Lego, and during all that time and, yes, even now, it was pretty obvious Lego was/is a toy, but I've come to think of it as a world of its own, same as if I'm watching anime or something, I don't spend time thinking how "this is a cartoon and not real" as that brings down the enjoyment and immersion factors. But this almost never happens... you'd have to make look everything like Peppa Pig for me to think "I can't buy into this world being real" or convert a treehouse into something that looks like it's made out of mud. The problem with colors is that you just can't throw them around willy-nilly and expect the final product to be aesthetically appealing. Using many colors calls for clean lines, else everything ends up looking like a mess. You can circumvent this easily by going for finer detail or by making less contrasting color transitions so that the colors visually fuse with one another. That way you have a sense something is going on, without it being an eyesore. Eldorado Fortress and sets like the Wolfpack Tower to an even greater extent are perfect examples of using color to separate different elements where they both compliment each other, accentuating what the others are supposed to represent, and merge into an appealing whole. Medieval Blacksmith looks great to me. It's only the ghastly printed doors where my suspension of disbelief crumbles, which is easily solved by keeping them open :) Medieval Castle, on the other hand, not so much. It's not that it doesn't work, that it's bad... it's none of those things. They just went with all the colors, all the details and given the limitation of physical space and brick count, got only a small impact from each thing, instead of aiming for a bigger impact from fewer things. But let's take A-Frame Cabin... surely that is leaning heavily towards a display set? I can't imagine a playset with that theme being literally any better than the previous sets we got with outdoorsy themes. Yet all we have to do is sit and wait to see how Lego will massacre my boy :)

Medieval blacksmith still works for me. It's more Lego-like, for sure, but the original had too much detail at places that you know would never be replicated. And the new shaping was also good, albeit in its own way. Treehouse not so much. The idea didn't have great shaping, but the color work was exquisite. The final product doesn't have either. Cabin idea is already colorful and it already feels like it has less bricks than the Blacksmith. It probably doesn't need to be turned into something crazy simple and crazy colorful to work.

I had to google what BTS is, but I love that cabin. If they make it kid-friendly, I'm skipping that as well.

It's mostly used to sound threatening or, alternatively, imply that the other person is slow to understand.

Yep, that's it. And that's also why I said each person is different and I have no reason to think Lego will cater to my vision of Space. However, when it comes to fantasy Lego space I can't even be remotely satisfied as there's almost none.

Well when you said this: We were talking about the anniversary set only. Since the pirates line did continue where it left off, albeit not in theme form, space could do the same for a one off. That's easy. Something that both tickles the fancy and looks like AFOLs would find it more interesting than regular Lego sets. Yes, partially. But going back to what I've said previously... these modern sets reflect the halfway attitude Lego has been utilizing for quite some time. They're basically trying to have their cake and eat it too, and that doesn't work for me. On the one hand, I love the realistic aspect of space exploration, this is very appealing to me as an AFOL, but these sets are not realistic enough. I'm not going to display this space line as it was not made detailed enough in order to remain just a play toy. On the other hand, as a play toy it's too realistic and thus much less interesting to the child in me than, yes, aliens and insects and everything else is. Classic space never had this problem. It was both "these are real people in space and you can play space exploration with them" and "look at these crazy wacky looking imaginative designs" at once. It was so perfect at capturing realistic space and fantasy space at once that it had to have been an accident. But I suppose stuff like M-tron or Blacktron or maybe even Ice Planet could be made to serve the same purpose. And I think the previous paragraph covers this perfectly. I love all the realistic space sets Lego is putting out... Lunar Lander, Saturn V, all of them. I think they're wonderful. Lego is crushing real space, it's fantasy space they're failing at. You can't have that feeling of awe and surprise anymore by looking at a fantasy space set Lego put out, that you just didn't expect to see and now you're in love. All you have is things like Star Wars and their "it's nice, but I've seen that, also too expensive since it's licensed" and an occasional set aimed at kids.

If anything, this is the opposite of a problem. As years go by it's easier to update and enrich the space line with new ideas than it would be to do the same with, say, castle or pirates. You state something without evidence then make a presumption and act as if it's true while ignoring every other possible variable. AFOLs are hardly uniform, so I cannot really say anything one way or the other in their name, nor do I think any possible Lego space set should have classic space vibes. I did, however, found classic space appealing as in my mind it united the realistic aspects of space exploration and habitat that the new NASA inspired sets have, and the vibrant imagery of a far future with fantastical machinery and solutions. So a lot of neo classic space ideas really do it for me, but for the reason mentioned, much more than their link to classic space. Ships and land based vehicles, base, robots of all sizes? Didn't Barracuda Bay successfully did just that? If Lego came out with another set like that, in any theme, even the themes I do not particularly care for, I honestly could not come here and claim what a disappointment that is. That would truly be something to behold.

The legs part is weird. Also I found the hair falls off way too easily.

Lego makes (mostly) kids sets, that's why it wouldn't make any sense for an anniversary set to be just a regular set. It can be many different things like a display set, or a tribute set, or an epic playset, or a mashup, but it definitely wouldn't have been a spaceship with a relatively small piece count for ages 5-12 which would lead them to abandon that idea because of 80035.

It's also a kids set with big parts and crazy colors that has no connection to Lego history.

Yes, but who could look at those and say "allrite, that's enough space!"? When was the last time space had anything substantial, 2014 with Benny's Spaceship? Or maybe Lego just thinks of "realistic" space sets as being the same as fantasy ones.

We had Barracuda Bay and Creator castle / Medieval Blacksmith. I wouldn't mind an epic classic space set, but I don't think that's happening :)

Perhaps not playful enough to be a classic Lego set, but otherwise stunning. I don't think anyone would mind an imperial counterpart to the pirate bay :)

Yep. Another set like the pirate bay and I'm buying that day 1. I don't even care what the theme is, with the probable exception of Bionicle.

1. Yes, but those sets weren't unexpected... in fact, it was odd that they didn't come sooner and that there weren't more of them, given how many things move cyclically and start catering to fans that are now grown up and have more money to spend. 2. I'm all for this, but unless one theme won by quite some margin... 3. Not stop... but certainly you wouldn't want to outdo yourself given how significant "100" sounds compared to "90" :) 4. This ties in to what I said for point number 1. I obviously have no idea what Lego fans around the world want. Just because I cannot find much interest for a football stadium in the groups and forums I'm a member of, doesn't mean half the China won't buy it without my knowledge :)

In my wildest dreams! But how would, say, a magnificent space set do justice to the anniversary? They want to celebrate Lego, so they just make a regular Lego set that has no special tie in to the anniversary except it's from a past theme? And if 60 years of the Lego brick was just a small promotional set, why would this be epic? After all, 100 years anniversary is just around the corner so it would make sense to go all out on that. Recently Lego has been opting for the compromise road like never before: please everyone... somewhat, but no one truly. A great space/castle/bionicle/whatever set when you don't expect one would be just that... make one+ fan group elated, but somewhat miss the widest audience.

It would be odd if the 90th anniversary set is any one theme honestly. I fully expect some kind of mashup, or a microscale architecture-style display with some of the most recognizable items from past X themes.

6261 feels like something I'd most like to play with, but on looks alone it has to be 6257. It's simple and elegant, without any unnecessary parts or colors that would made it feel blocky or awkward.

Oh, wow. This is lovely. Stunning details aside, a lot of what you've included could've been done in one form or another in the official set as well, and that would've made it much more playable.

This would truly be in the Lego of tradition of compromising and disappointing everyone :)

That makes it work for Lego, not for us. I have to purposely not follow the program and not vote because the chances of actually getting something are only big compared to playing the lottery. And I don't generally enjoy Lego because Lego makes a lot of money :) Duplo has, or had, zoos relatively recently.

Sure. That was just the first thing that came to mind as an example. The only reason I didn't mind uttering it is that well... it's not like the current Ideas format works either. Crowdfunding for the official program would also be a great idea for the fans to put their money where there mouths are. Anything really, other than a constant stream of disappointment, would work. Bricklink Designer Program would be great, if I had any way of purchasing those sets.

I'm in the same boat. There's no excitement to any set making it when there's but a slim chance of it becoming an actual set. I'd sooner have the requirement be a bajillion votes but they actually have to make some version of the set, unless there's a real reason not to.

Too heavy for the supports, maybe? Looks great, tho ☺