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Yeah, that's the issue. We've only seen them kill. If we do have three blockers, or even if we have two, they have to be capable of something else. I don't want to do it.
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Oh, I see, yes. Technically it ended 8 minutes ago. Want me to try it Aiden?
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About 30 minutes is super non-specific. Should I try it?
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Does it happen during twilight? Could the Scum block you? Do you want me to do it? Or rather, could anyone block you? Whatever. I'm still working under the assumption that Fred is Scum.
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I don't really feel like it. Why do I get the feeling that the Scum don't want there to be a lynch today? *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom*
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What is the plan again? Block Peter and Aiden again and the have the same discussion tomorrow? Just clarifying. *Fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom* Must be Santa, Santa Claus! Not sure how that popped into my head...
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*Fwooooooooooom* Fred says that he tried to block Peter on Night One but was blocked by Andrew. If they are on the same team, this would be a good place to create some public distance. Without having to have another player confirm they were blocked, he can say it was Peter, which if we were to believe that, creates the illusion that they're not on the same team. I am the living encapsulation of "A broken clock is right twice a day." If I over-think everything, I have to be right about something, right? This makes me look even more harshly at Peter's suspicions of Fred, because if he already found him suspicious, wouldn't he question why he chose him to be targeted for a block. If I was a Townie and the person I found most suspicious posted that they had try to block me, I might freak out! At least I'd ask about it. Fabien asked: which is a really good question. Why would Fred block Peter after voting for Robin and Aiden? I don't remember doing this but I asked him too: Here's the answer: "He's been fairly quiet and under the radar" pings me a bit more because it was Night One that he had blocked him. Did Fred mention any suspicion of Peter on Day Two? Jesus, do I have to go check? This is tedious. Because I would suspect a Town blocker that targeted someone because he found them suspicious, might be further suspicious of that target if he was unsuccessful at blocking him. He wants to lynch me and Daniel: When Aiden questions him about this he says that people set up next day lynches all the time. He actually says "lunches" but I blame his parchment. Do we set up next day lunches all the time? Or does the Town? Sounds like something scum might try to do. Townies may suggest a good course of action, but it's typically changed by the course of new information. Do we "set them up?" I'm in the weeds here, folks, in case you could tell that on your own. His focus for the rest of the day, instead of being on the person he was suspicious of but couldn't successfully block, is on Daniel's role claim and Alex's vanilla claim. Eh? Fred is suspicious of Peter for being quiet, tried to block him and was unsuccessful, and now Peter is calling him Scum. Does Fred mention Peter? And While Peter says this, he votes for Joshua in the next paragraph. So, no mention of Peter and no response to Peter calling him Scummy. This could all be overthink, this could all be me thinking I'd play it different and Fred just plays totally different than me. But also, if I was a Townie and I found Peter suspicious and I tried to block Peter and was unsuccessful and then Peter continued calling me Scummy the following day, I think I'd say a thing or two about Peter. Fred has known who is going to be blocked since Night Three, the first night we didn't see the Scum kill. We haven't seen them kill since and he's known the block targets ever since. I don't know, kids. Fred's looking kind of Scummy to me. Sorry, Fred, if I'm wrong like I was with Justin and Fabien. I'm looking as hard as I can at everything. I win no matter which side wins if I'm not lynched. Still, if I win with the Scum at this point, I won't feel like a winner since I was never able to catch any... But, right now, I think Peter and Fred could be working together. But Fred is looking Scummier than I previously thought. *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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*Fwom*
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Would it be a viable test of Aiden to lynch him and then see if he un-lynches himself? Aiden, can you self target? *fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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Who did you try to target on Nights Four and Five? *Fwooooooooooooooooom*
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OK, let's do Trenton. On Day One, he's the only one to vote for Jean because he doesn't like Jean's vote on a poke-voter. At this point in the Day, 4 people had one vote each, Justin had 2. Trenton's vote for Jean makes him the 5th person with one vote on him. Two posts later, Joshua places a vote for Fabien bringing the number of players with one vote to 6 and soon after, due to other votes, there are 8 players with one vote at the halfway point through the day. Trenton doesn't do much after this. On Day Two, Trenton votes for Daniel after reading the PMs between us. He is the third vote on Daniel. He unvotes Daniel after Daniel's roleclaim. Daniel yells at him for the vote and the unvote. Aside from a few more posts regarding aliens and masons, Trenton is pretty much done for the day here. He doesn't come back and re-vote, effectively not voting on Day Two. On Day Three, Trenton starts off asking about Alex's claim of not having an action and then disappears for a while. He comes back to say that he was also in contact with Jean. He tells us Jean was in agreement on his suspicions about Robin and also suspected Fabien, Fred and Peter. He calls the Vanillaizer claim interesting and wonders if it is limited in some way. Trenton is the only person not to vote on Day Three. He is not active for most of the Day, even though he is mentioned by others over 100 times. He questions if we would have so many blockers if Alex is truly vanilla. Day Four starts with Trenton talking about who was blocked, since there was no kill. He mistakenly postulates that Robin can only kill on alternate nights, when he meant to say protect. Missing is his previous concern that one of the blockers is Scum if Alex is vanilla, which Alex's Townie corpse tells us that the claim was true. Sorry, Alex. Trenton does ask how I would know there's a scum blocker, which pings me in retrospect because DUH, there's typically a scum blocker as was his point the day before that there were too many Town blockers if we have vanilla Townies! He does go back to the idea of a scum blocker, here: This gives me a different perspective on Fred. If he was Scum and they tried to kill me on Night Three, then Fred would've known that I was being protected, making it less that Fred is Scum if I was the kill target. He would also know that three non-scum were being blocked, though. And that would've been the night that they chose not to kill. ... Has Fred known the block targets since Night Three?? Trenton doesn't have anything else to add after this and again, doesn't vote. Day Five, he starts out with this sparkling gem: How did we not see this before? Maybe my walls of text are killing our ability to see other things. Shit. But, look at what he says to Fabien. "Why would the Scum fail?" "Your kill has gone through." That post starts with him accusing Fabien of lying and being the Scum killer and then ends with what could be seen as a slip of Scum Perspective. "Two killers targeting each other could make the scum kill fail, but yours went through, so that wouldn't explain the scum kill failing." Like it's knowledge that Fabien was the Town Vig. Possibly. I've dug into suspicions like this before and it's ended up a Townie just carelessly ruminating, as they would when they have nothing to hide. But it could also be he slipped with the knowledge that Fabien was truth-tellin'. He could also just mean that it's ludicrous to think the Scum kill failed. However, Peter and I were both blocked that night, so it's not ludicrous. But, maybe I've spent too much time reading three sentences... He ends up being the original hammer of Fabien before Andrew unvotes: Because he doesn't trust the claim, fully. That pings me in retrospect, too. Maybe it did at the time, I don't remember. He comes back in once to reiterate that he thinks the best plan for the Day was to lynch Fabien. The other ping I got from re-reading his contributions was this during Day Two when Daniel was saying that Aiden and I must be masons: Trenton, what was your thought process during the whole mason discussion on that day? You know, from the perspective of a mason. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma, fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom, Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom* I can tell my brother by the flowers in his eyes *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*
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*Fwom fwomma— You get Town pings? I ping you as Town? I'm so confused. You think I'm a Townie who, in an attempt not to be lynched, is pretending to be neutral and offering to be lynched. That's weird, Fred. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma, fwomma fwomma fwom* with the rains in Shambala!
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OK, I have some energy left. Aiden has pinged me twice. Once was when he said he would've used his action to unlynch me, only to piss off Daniel. Not because he thought I'd be a bad lynch, just to freak Daniel out. That last thing this game would've needed would be Daniel with his buttons pushed further. That seems to me like someone stoking the flames of the constant interruptions and chaotic confusion and wanted more of it, to hide behind. Wait, I can't find this post. I think I read too fast initially and then remembered it incorrectly. He says he wanted to orchestrate a bait and switch with a townie that investigated as Scum. What? Anyway, this is the closest I could find to what I remembered: Ah, OK, OK. I see what I was thinking. Now I'm drunkenly posting a stream of consciousness. Is it fun to read? I think that did refer to me. It's actually Townier now that I analyze it. Sorry to put you all through all of that. The other is that he left his vote off of Fabien, believing he was Vengeful. I admit to believing it was possible Fabien was some sort of vengeful Scum. It was odd that he wanted to be lynched and left himself as his own hammer and then kept insisting on more votes. That's why I didn't mind being the hammer as I hoped my bulletproofiness would save me. I even clarified with Bob if I would lose my bulletproofiness if he was a vengeful Vanilljliaszkewrt. However, if Aiden knew Fabien was Town, he'd be more afraid of being the hammer as a Super Saint seems to be only Town-aligned. Vengeful seems to be able to choose their kill target, so it remains a ping as much as I could justify having the fear that something was up. Oh, wait. There's a third. He approached me on Night Four asking if I wanted to be un-lynched if I was lynched on Day Five. This could be seen as Scummy if it meant he expected me to be a lynch target on Day Five as that would indicate he knew Justin would flip Town and I would be under scrutiny. Fuck. Shit. I can convince myself that anybody is Scum. It's late and I'm tired so let's just look at the final vote tally to get a vague idea of where he's voted: Day One Voted for me with Justin. Day Two Voted fourth for Joshua and has previously given himself credit for reviving momentum on the bandwagon. Day Three Ended up as the hammer for Alex, but I think this might only be because Daniel un-voted him. Day Four Voted late on Justin Day Five As mentioned earlier, kept his vote off of Fabien, but voted early for Andrew and kept his vote there. Andrew and Emmett both kept their votes off of Fabien as well... Everyone is Scum! It's late. Did he ever fully explain his vote for Andrew? I don't remember. This is one of my favorite quotes of the game. I still lean slightly Town on Aiden, but I'm willing to keep an open mind. I still think the fact that Peter was blocked on two nights where we didn't see a kill is significant. It shouldn't take me to long to do Trenton because he's barely said anything during the game. I have theories about that too. But it's metagaming on who I thought Trenton really is and the claim that this is his second game. Anyway, good night everybody! *Fwom fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom fwom fwom* The summer sun knows me by name *Fwom fwomma fwom* Oh, hi Peter! Night cap? Don't mind if I do. I suppose if you were Scum and had an investigative ability that only told you I was neutral, you might try to signal me if you thought that might indicate I'm a serial killer and then ask to work with me. I don't know what Scum action would reveal such a thing because why?? Would you be investigating anyone else to see if they're town?? You don't have to kill me to win so I wouldn't imagine you'd be looking for me or Bob would give you some tool to find me. Maybe you wanted to signal me as a threat that you knew I was neutral and should work with you? I don't know. It's just weird. I forgot to be more verbose earlier when I said I reject the idea of a bulletproof survivor. Then I said, no offense Bob. What I meant to expound up on that was that the Survivor seems to be a role that gives the Scum a little benefit in the numbers and also weakens the player from being able to scum hunt since it will entice them to kill him. With me being bulletproof I can scum-hunt all I want, but that's been great for the scum as it seems my scum-hunting skills...well...FUCKING SUCK! As for your confidence in your vote position, good for you! I'll drink to that. I hope that's true, if you're Town. It seems the new town-tell in this game is if Vincent finds your actions suspicious! *FWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM* The tuba is an obnoxious instrument. Anyone ever notice that?
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*Fwom fwom— At least you can be sure that I'm drunk. Drunk enough to throw out the paranoid fear that if we lynch a Townie and agree to block Peter again that perhaps one of our friendly "Town" blockers might be doing just enough to get us to trust him to block the other blocker and free up Peter to kill. Drunken paranoia? Or drunken clarity? Sorry, Fred, I'd be more inclined this would be you as opposed to our vanilljliaszwer. But assuming for a moment that neither one of our blockers are diabolical Scum, let's look at where Peter typically votes on wagons: Voted early for Fred and left it there. Fred laughed it off and Peter responded by making more beard jokes. Peter made no further contributions that day besides murmuring something about Robin's vote being odd. On Day Two, he starts the day with a rousing analysis of who was for or against a lynch and then who voted for who and ends up casting a little more suspicion towards Fred. Fred does respond to this with the defense that his statements were consistent. I'm only now finding this interesting after proposing Fred and Peter might be working together and now seeing that Peter voted for Fred on Day one and then continued to cast a little suspicion on them and seeing that they both interacted over these votes... Peter then doesn't contribute anything more for four pages and then comes in and adds his opinion of Daniel's claim, that it's safer to claim jailkeeper than blocker, for Scum. At this point Joshua had three votes and Daniel still had four. He rebuffs Joshua's claim that Peter misquoted him. He then presses Alex for a claim to confirm that Daniel blocked him. He then votes, 9 posts after Daniel's claim, for Joshua, after mumbling more about his Day One suspicions about Fred. He crowns himself the reviver of the Joshua lynch at the fifth vote. He gets a little involved with the Daniel bout of screeching for the PMs between Aiden and me to be revealed. He defends me for a while and then adds I could also be scum, then tries to tell Daniel there are different levels of trust, then probably gives up because a wall of Daniel text gets thrown at him. He doesn't contribute anything else for the day. Except stabbing the dead body. He did that for several days. I've always been curious about this and even asked him about it. He said it's a throwback to previous mafia behavior. This rings a faint bell but I haven't put much thought into it. Side note: I assume from the body stabbing and the time between end of Day and Bob posting the conclusion that there's a bit of a twilight phase where I imagine the Governor Action would take place...if it actually exists. He starts Day Three by seemingly accepting Fred's claim despite being suspicious of him for the first two days, but questioning Andrew. Who blocked Peter? Was it Night Two? There's too much to look over. Mafia-ing is hard. He questions the multiple blocker claims for a bit and then agrees with Daniel that the four people who voted for him after he claimed or left there votes on him, whatever... Robin and Trenton are both in this group of voters and he singles out Robin but then decides to vote for Justin, based on my points and the Day One interaction. He gets involved in the conversation a bit later suggesting that the Scum couldn't choose not to kill to implicate the players being blocked unless they knew who was going to be blocked. He postulates that it's too risky with so many blockers that the Scum would risk this. !! I am finding more reason to think that one of our remaining blockers is Scum as I analyze Peter's votes and contributions. I may be "forcing a narrative"-our new favorite term-but not intentionally. I'm suggesting a "narrative" meaning something that may have actually been happening, but from an honest suspicion, not any diabolical plot to get everyone suspicious of Fred. We've all seen me dig into suspicions that seemed plausible and then the lynched players at the center of my suspicions turn up Town, so again, take it with a grain of salt. Or lynch me to buy yourselves some time. My whiskey is empty! After noting again that we have too many blockers he switches his vote to Alex: Which hammers the lynch. And then he's out for the day. The other person who was being voted for at that point, besides Justin, was his favorite suspect Fred, who he had just mentioned (somewhere in the 96 hours of Day Three) has been been acting scummy all game, or something like that. I don't feel like finding it again but it's significant because he seemed to believe Fred's claim, twice mentions the multiple blocks are suspicious but then doesn't vote for Fred, but hammers Alex. On Day Four, he sidles in on page three, confirming that Fred confided his block info to him: This is a point in Fred's favor, really. Confiding in a Scummo to pretend to spread the info out in case you get killed is putting all of your scum in one basket. Would they do that? At the same time, why did Fred choose Peter who had posted minimally and voiced suspicions of him for three days. I think I was the other person Fred confided in. Who can remember? He is silent for a while until he asks for clarification on why Justin would admit to targeting Jean if he was the killer and apparently I convince him that it's scummy, so he votes for Justin. This eventually becomes the hammer after Daniel un-votes Justin. He confirms he was blocked early-ish on day five. Has he told us who he was attempting to target the past two nights when he was blocked? He's the first to vote Fabien, followed shortly by Robin and in rapid succession: Andrew, Fred, Trenton. It's pinging me that Fred voted quickly after Andrew yesterday and today. Peter comes back in to re-confirm his feeling that Fabien is the best lynch. If not him, then me. Wasn't he also blocked? That's audacious. But then he's off again and doesn't say anything else. Honestly, this takes forever, but it would be worth it to take a look at Trenton and Aiden too. Maybe Fred too. Fred, I don't like suspecting you but it needs to be done. What do I get from my Peter voting analysis? Peter's voting record is marginally Scummy, which is subjective, but it's also possible Peter and Fred are both Scum. What do I want to do with this post? Delete it and forget I did it, because it makes me suspicious of Fred and I don't want to veer anyone, including myself, off on the wrong course as I seem to be highly adept at suspecting Townies. I'll post it because I'm drunk and I put a lot of time into it and I'd probably just wake up in the morning, all hungover, and try to re-compose it all and then pass out on my keyboard. adjiouckjdsiauvgbvfiubiuhbbjvkasdiufhjkalkjdiuaiclskjnlhbsavluFWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMahjdfhkljhluhglashdliughjkfgiulahflsjgliasuhlivundhll
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*Fwomma fwomma fwom* This will be the biggest risk I've taken thus far, but the Town deserves all the information it can get at this point and I'll make this that much easier on them. Yeah, I'm neutral. I lied about it mostly to try to get away with it. If I left the "Survivor" part out of the claim, I ran the risk of somebody looking at my post and finding it and saying "Hey Vincent, why do the next 8 sentences spell 'Survivor?'" If Fabien had flipped Scum, which I fully expected, I would've pretended to have been neutralized by his death and would've pretended to believe that he was a vengeful Scum and since I was bulletproof, he'd have just turned me neutral instead of killing me since I was bulleproof. I would've pretended that was my best guess, anyway. But the intention would've been to draw out the last Scum who would hardly be able to help himself from calling me out for lying. As I was posting my claim, which I was making to explain my bulletproofiness and explain away the word "Survivor" in my acrostic post, I quoted Peter's post where he called me "very neutral." That's what sparked my initial conversation with Bob. I asked how an investigator would see me and he confirmed I would be seen as "not Imperial Soldier." So only then did I ask what a rolecop would see me as and he said what I told you that I would be seen as having no Action and not Survivor and not even bulletproof. The rest of the story scans from there. I wanted to compose an acrostic post that left out "Survivor" but I didn't get around to it before Daniel revealed his and pride really did prevent me from composing a new one after that. Ooops. Stupid pride... I went forward with the lie, because it is a lie-sorry, that I'm not neutral, not only to try and squeeze by without admitting it, but also to see if Peter's post on Day Two did mean something. Here's the post I'm referring to, for reference: I had completely forgotten about this until I was preparing my claim. I ended up deciding to leave the Survivor part in because it had the dual purpose of giving me the opportunity to try to get away with it, but also seeing how Peter (and anyone else) might react to it. I was waiting for more, but Peter seems the type to wait to see how things are going, so maybe this is the most he would ever let slip but comparing these two statements gives me the feeling that he knows that I'm neutral: Peter, who has made all of 24 posts, is convinced that I'm neutral. Why? And why did he choose that word on Day Two and has he been convinced of this for five days? Do the Scum have some sort of investigative Action? Did they target me on Night One with it? If so, why would Peter drop a hint in the thread to potentially connect with me? What would he get from it? If he knew I was neutral (and would therefore be Scum and the whole team would also know) would he also know I was bulletproof? Therefore, would the Scum try to target me for a night kill? On Night Three, they might have if they only knew I was neutral. That would give Daniel the confidence that he was onto something with me. I will take a sentence to say that that would be false confidence because his case was based on me knowing who the Scum were, which I didn't and still don't. That would also then give him the political capital to lynch Aiden and Emmett, the other two people he was convinced were Scum, based on learning that I wasn't Town, which if they're Town, gives the Scum a motive. While, on one hand that's asinine because me being neutral should not implicate anybody else, on the other hand it at least gives him the fuel to keep pushing on his suspicions and continue to mislead and confuse the Town, as a Townie. If they also knew I was bulletproof or Peter is a Townie who just used neutral in its common sense, well then, fuck. But here's a proposed solution. I've never been convinced on Aiden one way or the other, although I lean Town on him. That's the beauty of Trekkie's Aiden's game, he plays basically the same no matter what side he's on which always leaves him in the perfect position not to be night-killed as Town and not to be found if he's Scum. As I've mentioned, I'm neutral, so I find myself in a spot unable to read him. He did admit to only offering to use his action on me, if I was lynched, to piss off Daniel, which is Scummy since it would've just cause more confusing and chaotic walls of text from Daniel. So, lynch me. I'm not a suicidal Townie. I'm a suicidal Survivor. The other part of pretending to be Town was that Bob is the host and Bob made me a neutral Survivor so I should respect his game setup by not revealing that. That's like 10% of why I chose to lie. Sorry, Bob. I'm claiming Neutral. I fully reject the idea of a bulletproof Survivor. Again, sorry Bob, just my opinion from a mechanics standpoint. Here's what Mafia Scum has to say about Survivor. Note the part where it says, "Not many people want to play as one." True. It also says that it's slightly less than a Mafia goon as it doesn't benefit the Town. So that's something the Town needs to be aware of: you're one less number than you think. I think my existence proves that there are two Scum left, not three, although—who knows?? Maybe Bob left the number at three, but tried to give them the benefit of having a neutral in the numbers. Look what else Mafia Scum says about the existence of a Survivor: "The Survivor can't be too much of a help to the Town or else they will get killed at Night;" but I'm bulletproof so I ignored Mafia Scum's advice of how to play a Survivor: "playing as Survivor requires the player to pace themselves." Yeah, no. Being bulletproof gave me the ability to come out swinging, play as Town, and Scum-hunt. Until Daniel. Then, I was just not playing as anything but trying to calm down a total psycho. Or, to be fair, a good person choosing to play the game like what EB-Mafia regulars would view as a psycho. So, why lynch me? LyLo comes early with my existence, so you get a free night to learn more. One more night to block Peter, the guy convinced that I'm neutral before I admitted it and block Aiden again. This gives you one more night to discern if Aiden is a good lynch. I'm defending him again with this clarification on my claim, so it will at least show that I really don't know which side he's on. I've also defended Emmett, but you guys are all pretty sure on his alignment. I trust Andrew and Fred too, although Andrew more than Fred. Yes, I'd lose, but I hardly care anymore as long as the Town is re-directed from the chaos and confusion caused by Daniel. I win by out-living Daniel and forging ahead with the EB style of play and sticking to what we know is our way to play this game and that's good, no matter what an outsider berates us for. I can also get back to work, which I need to concentrate more on. Although, I'll probably post walls of text on the dead writeboard and still constantly refresh the day thread. That's my problem, bot yours. Peter was blocked for two nights in a row with there being no kill and there's reasonable circumstantial evidence to believe I was the night three kill target. If you look for investigative roles, you will find Absorber, which takes the action of anyone who targets it, or an Anti-Town variation takes the skill of anyone it targets instead of the night kill. Did they take my bulletproofiness away and then try to kill me? Mafia Wiki says the role is useful in Role Madness. Did Bob make his own variation that takes the abilities of anyone it targets? I could ruminate over what-ifs forever by searching Scum Investigative Roles, but there are ways they could've learned who I am on Night One, leading to Peter's post calling me "neutral." That's a tiny suspicion you should all take with a grain of salt as my "big brain" has gotten us absolutely nowhere. But add that to the fact that he was blocked on two nights with no kill and I surmise that he's the best lynch for today. If we mislynch and they kill, our numbers of 5:2:1 goes to 3:2:1 and we really need to get it right tomorrow. If you lynch me and block the right person, you will be at 5:2 tomorrow, with my blessing. If, for some fucked-up reason, it's 4:3:1 and you mislynch and the Scum kill, it's game over. Even if you block the right person and there's no kill, a mislynch gets the game to 3:3:1 which gives the scum the win. By the way, Andrew, look at game setups on Mafiawiki, the Scum always win at parity. Scum isn't going to allow a lynch of a Scum at parity and then they eventually win with a night kill, so Town always has to eliminate the Scum and Scum always has to reach parity or outnumber the Town. That's the nature of the game. I'm neutral. Lynch me or lynch Peter. I honestly think Aiden is too much of an unknown to lynch at this stage. Aiden might be Scum! By all means, nothing has cleared him. But if he's not and you lynch him, you might lose. Lynch me and block Peter and Aiden again, I can almost guarantee you a ticket to Day Seven. Or lynch Peter and block Aiden and Trenton. (Or Robin or Fred or whoever at that point) Before I stand myself in front of the firing squad, though, I'll also throw out there that besides Fred's seemingly Scummy follow of Andrew, let's look at where people have voted on the wagons. Peter and Trenton have opinions that they haven't followed up with votes. How often have they waited until a wagon has momentum to add their vote? They've been around and haven't voted. What are they waiting for? I've been drinking...in person .... with friends, so I'm verbose-moreso than usual-and likely to pass out after I eat. When I have time I will follow this up because their behavior of hanging back until today's wagon gets going pings me and I want to see if they've been doing it the last couple days...or the whole game. *Fwom fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwomma fwomma* It's the end of the world as we know it! *Fwom fwomma fwooooooooooooooooooooom*
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I know. I just needed something to talk about to fulfill your acrostic wish. Well, I'm not. It's pinging me that you say you're convinced of it. Why? I'm not convinced of anything in this game. It pings me even more since you made this comment back on Day Two. What is very neutral? Is that like extra medium? *Fwom fwom fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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*Fwoooooooooooooom* Thanks a lot Occam's Razor! You don't apply to anything. Burn in Hell! Let's just list everyone again. Aiden—Governor Andrew—Vanilljliaiszer Emmett—Tracker Fred—Blocker Peter—Pscyhologist Robin—Some sort of bonkers protective action that needs heaps of clarification Trenton—Mason Vincent—Bulletproof I still say Peter and Trenton are the most likely Scum. Robin and Aiden would be next on my list. Fred would win for most diabolical Scum act in this game. Emmett and Andrew I'm leaning Town on, so if either one of them is Scum, they're doing a great job at pulling the wool over our eyes. *Fwoooooooooooooooooooooooom*
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*Fwom fwom* I think what Robin has been trying to tell us is that if Emmett had been the target of a killer last night, he would know and possibly we all would know. *Fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwom*
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*Fwomma fwomma fwomma fwom* It's the beard What are you suggesting? A lynch to prove if someone is lying about being town or neutral? Not that I could blame anybody who has the same question. Think about this, though: I added the acrostic to my post specifically as the phrase "bulletproof survivor" because I needed to be sure that the role wouldn't confuse a rolecop who targeted me. That's the only reason for me to claim survivor. Oh wait, I see your point, though. Maybe I'd have done it either way, I don't know. And I did admit that I wanted to do a second one and leave the term "Survivor" out of it after getting confirmation from Bob that a rolecop wouldn't see the term "Survivor" and that probably is something I do if I were neutral ... Knowing I'm town, though, I find it interesting that your post suggests you believe that the claim is true but that I'm lying about being neutral, not that you think I'm scum. Every other player who has claimed, except Trenton, has followed it up with their suspicions of who is scum. Since you've only followed up your claim with the suspicion that I'm actually neutral makes me think you're Scum. When Justin was facing the prospect of being lynched, he accused me, and Fabien listed why every one of us might be scum. Every role has a reason to be kept secret, but I'm not sure I understand yours. Every list of potential killers would've benefited from the information you supposedly had. The information that Justin's result came back negative would've helped him a lot since your role should've told us if he had a killing action or not; the psychologist's role tells us if a player has the ability to kill so if the scum can pass the kill ability around, I'd imagine that all scum would give you a positive result. Last night and the night before you were blocked and there was no kill and it's possible I was the kill target on Night Three. Occam's Razor, which hasn't been applied well yet, but it's still true that the simplest explanation is that you are the Scum killer. Vote: Peter Lyon Everything points to this lynch being our best bet to finally get another Scummo. The new trend in EB Mafia games seems to be that the new Town-tell is to act Scummy and the new Scum-tell is to fly under the radar. Our ability to detect Scum has been severely hindered in this game. Perhaps we're not stepping far enough back to look at the whole picture. Everyone has claimed a role at this point. Two or three of them are liars. Even our blockers and tracker could be scum at this point, though I'm leaning Town on all three of them. Refresh my memory, who was blocked last night besides Peter? *Fwom fwomma fwom* Late December back in '63 *Fwomma fwom fwom fwomma fwom fwom fwom*
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Art by random coincidence. I really can't take any credit. I blame divine intervention. I actually went through every one of my posts to see if there were any more acrostics and found that one by surprise. Pretty crazy coincidence, am I right? The only question I have about this claim is why wait to make the claim if your partner is dead. Why not claim on Day Two after he was killed? Once we got into the nitty-gritty of roleclaims and trying to verify each other, why not claim them? At least a PM to Emmett who seems to be verified. What's the risk of claiming when you're a lone Mason? It might've helped us clear things up earlier, or at least have more reason to believe it. These are honest and gentle questions. I'm leaving my mind open to the possibility of you being a Mason, Trenton. As opposed to digging into the reasons I could come up with that you're lying about it and then just stubbornly insisting that it's a lie. That didn't work out so well with Justin or Fabien. I miss them. I also miss Jean. And Remi. And Alex. Even Michael. *Fwomma fwom fwom fwom, fwomma, fwomma fwomma fwom fwom fwoom fwoooooma* Never a cloudy day, Yow *Fwom, fwom, fwom, Fwooooooooma fwoooom* Say do you remember, *Fwooooooma fwooooom* Dancing in September? *Fwooooooma fwooooom, fwomma fwomma fwooooooma fwooooooom*
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OK, you caught me there. I did hide other acrostics in the game: It spells "Daniel is a twat and also smells like poo" but that was just a coincidence. I find the idea ludicrous that I would choose "bulletproof survivor" as one of many fake claims and put it in my first post of Day Two and that one magically fit every circumstance of my specific behavior of asking not to protected and blatantly trying to be killed. That reminds me, I also hid The Flying Pumpkin That Shoots Laser Beams Out of Its Butt in one of my posts, but I can't find it. I did, however, twice hint at being an inventor: But, that was to entice the scum into killing me. In Pirates II, the inventor could invent a protective, investigative and killing action, so I figured if the scum thought that, they'd target me for the kill. Inventor would be a ridiculous thing to fake-claim as Scum unless you had the ability to invent things and give them to people. Mason can be just as hard as you have to make the extremely convenient/inconvenient claim that your Mason buddy can't confirm you as he was the first night kill in the game. I'd guffaw at the claim, but I did that to our Voyeur and our suicidal limited Vigilante with one-shot strongarm modifier. I'll leave it to others to react. Was your masonry not given the ability to recruit? *Fwom, fwom, fwom, Fwoooooma fwooooom, fwomma fwomma fwom fwom, Fwoooooooooma fwooooom* Dancing in September? *Fwooooooma fwoooooom, fwomma fwomma fwomma fwoooooooooooom*
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From doing what? Tell us your action, please? *Fwomma fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom* Everybody walk the dinosaur! *Fwomma fwom fwom, fwom fwom fwom fwom*
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That funny. *Fwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom*
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The fuck? Was I blocked or not?? *Fwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooom*
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*Fwom fwom* Yeah, I have a thought. How can you say there were no scum kills because I was blocked on a night I wasn't blocked? Some clarity there, please? I realize you've clarified since, so but it's weird that you ruminated on something that hadn't happened. Well, I feel less like I should be lynched today then. Maybe I was the kill target on Night Three? And I was bulletproof and protected by Daniel. Maybe the Scum thought they'd get rid of someone who seemed to be concealing an important role and maybe shut Daniel the fuck up at the same time? And then perhaps Peter has been the killer. The only person further under the radar than Peter is Trenton. *Fwomma fwomma fwomma*