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Thanks @Frequenzberater and @amorti. I was not sure but your are right about the headlights. Also thanks to @Appie for your words. The angled liftarms really do work pretty well here. I am not sure if your model would benefit from them because of the different scale. It is still incredibly good without them. I declare my model finished and you can find free instructions here: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-153539/brickphisto/mini-8865-test-car/ I cannot post pictures of the finished physical model and thus there is no entry post yet as I am still waiting for some parts to arrive. Two of them are 1x7 flip flop beams from 42154. Ironically I do have a bunch of the "original" ones produced by CaDA but I ordered 42154 to comply with the rules. But I guess any reason for getting 42154 is a good one. ;-)

Sorry if this has been asked before but: Are we allowed to use pictures of the official set for side-by-side comparison in our entry post?

I am planning to offer free instructions for my shrinked 8865. Do I have to wait for the contest deadline before uploading the instructions? Or can I post a link for the instructions in the entry post or discussion thread?

This weekend I was able to make some progress. The functions now include: - steering operated by steering wheel - rear suspension using 6.5 soft shock absorbers - working V4 fake engine including 32072 as four blade rotor - foldable headlights operated via a 12 teeth gear on the right side - adjustable seats (unfortunately no mechanism due to lacking space but only sliding both seats simultaneously by one stud) The front bumper has been added as well as yellow cones at the rear for cosmetic reasons. I will have another try to make at least the seats moveable back and forth independently. The construcion of the rear axle should be improved though the model is quite sturdy and everything runs smoothly.

Nice thread! My wishlist seems endless but my top 10 looks something like this: 1. Volvo Amazon 2. RUF SCR 2018 3. Alfa Romeo Junior GT 4. Audi Quattro S1 5. Austin Healey 3000 6. Ferrari Testarossa 7. Ford Escort Mk1 8. Mercedes 300 SL 9. BMW 2002 ti 10. Opel GT

There are certain "curvy" vehicles with specific shapes that can be recreated with bricks quite well, e.g. the Porsche 911 or the Fiat 500. Other cars are a rather bad choice like the Aston Martin or the Chevrolet Corvette. It depends very much on the specific shape and the portfolio of curved elements and slopes which are available to the Lego designers.

I think there is no way to recreate those curves much better. So imho the best option would have been to choose another vehicle.

Great choice! Although I have never possessed 8868 it is still one of my all time favourites. Your start looks promising and I cannot wait to see the final model.

That is exactly what I am thinking, too. Plus many of us will have most parts available. So call me in.

Thanks. Sorry, no chance for a 4 speed gearbox. I am over the moon to fit suspension and fake engine into the model. So call me a Technic newbie. Thanks. I see what I can do but it is very tight. That is where the fun starts. Thanks. Looking at some other shrinked models it seems to be just like it is with animal and human babies: the smaller, the cuter. Thanks. You are right: the tires are just a fraction too small: the height/tire diameter ratio is 2.14 and should be just 2.05. But maybe there is more to the perfect wheel size than just maths and numbers. I will try different tires and see how it looks.

I was just working on a shrinked version of the 5580 Model Team Highway Rig when Jim announced TC25 (thanks for organizing). Since I usually build Creator Expert style cars I decided to concentrate rather on shrinking than on the technical side. My first idea was to create a smaller version of 8880 using 30.4x14 tires. But I failed to include four-wheel-steering and a working fake engine. So I decided to have a go at 8865. As usual I started with the bodywork to see how many and which functions could be included. I was pleased to see how the angled liftarms were nearly perfect for this model. It is only my second ever pure Technic moc and my first for 6 or 7 years. I really struggled hard but finally managed to squeeze a working fake V6 fake engine, steering and rear suspension into the tiny model. Since I do not like rubber band or spring solution for suspension I had to find some place for the 6.5 shock absorbers. The front still needs to be done. Also I have to see if HOG steering or a working steering wheel (or possibly both) fit. A working headlight mechanism or adjustable seats and reducing the engine from V6 to V4 are on the to-do-list, too. Shrinking factor is roughly about 2.7. So my model is significantly smaller than Appie's glorious 8865 redux from 2017.

Is it okay to have HOG steering instead of steering operated by steering wheel? I am shrinking by factor 2.7 and it is starting to get very tight.

1x10 tiles are quite common in CaDA models. The Buckingham Palace comes with lots of nearly perfect 6x6 and also 6x16 tiles in dark red. And yes, CaDA's metallic silver and chrome parts are also of highest quality. I used plenty of them for my London taxi (also some 1x10 tiles). If only all of CaDA's parts were of such high quality. Finally thanks for pointing out these 1x7 Technic bricks. I did not know they existed. They seem pretty useful for models combining Technic and system bricks.

It would not be the first Creator style vehicle which comes with suspension. Designer set 4404 and Creator 5893 also had suspension.

Well, the CaDA Dump Truck should be as legal as Lego's 10258 Routemaster, I mean London Bus and Lego's 10290 Ford, I mean Pickup.

The London taxi and the yellow supercar have also been displayed.

No need to doubt or believe or whatsoever when there is evidence easily to be found on youtube. CaDA Pro M motor is about 1.7 times as fast as Lego M Motor; CaDA Pro L motor is about 1.85 times as fast as Lego L motor. Having tested the motors myself I can confirm these numbers.

Thank you very much for bumping up this very interesting thread. It is impressive to see how rather simple math can help you find and explain crazy looking perfect fits. Thanks also for the huge collection although I might never use any in my models.

I am not talking about protection by patent but protection by design. Lego has some parts which are protected for specific lengths only. Protection for the same elements but different lengths has long vanished (like some curved slopes and brackets). I think changing an element's length is even less innovative than introducing those flip flop beams but still you can get design protection. But I guess we should go back to topic again.

And I find it even harder to believe that Lego had those flip flop beams before and did not try to have them design protected. They tried for even more obvious parts which were within the system and which other companies had been using for years like the 1x5 plate. So your argument is pointless since you could use it for any possible part design. Personally I cannot care less about who designed which element before which competitor. But I do care for who creates the best models using a limited palette of parts. To me it seems Lego is being overtaken at the moment.

Well, that might be true for Technic parts especially for older sets like both of which you have built. I have built several CaDA sets so far and yes, I had some issues with clutch power for a few parts, too. But on the other hand CaDA's system parts are at least on par with Lego's. I built the Buckingham palace some weeks ago. The parts were perfect plus there were only two (out of 5000+) parts with obvious colour inconsistency. I cannot remember having built a Lego set with such high parts quality in the last 10 years or so. It seems CaDA have improved their parts quality and hopefully they will continue to do so.

Not even close to 10265 for me: printed rear lights and a-pillars instead of brick-built ones, boxy roof section and sideline between doors and rear end, boring colour-scheme... But I guess many aspects depend on personal preference.

Not bad, but compared to the 10265 Mustang it is at least one step backward. I own and love the Mustang. So no need to buy the Camaro.

I can assure that there is some kind of QC (at least for my models which are far less complex on the technical side). However the Lego designers' limitations seem to be a little stricter when it comes to illegal connections and also sturdiness. But to be fair even some of the recent Creator Expert and Speed Champions models lack some sturdiness.