Shadows

Ok, given the excitable nature of her jumping and such, I suppose I'd be willing to follow her back to start, collect $200 to the entrance to check that door. We're pretty much at a dead end here anyway. We're never going to get to the basement if we don't find a way down, plus I could use a snack, so the kitchen is definitely in order. If the door doesn't open, we can always drop lower Max down the dumbwaiter and get him to open it from the other side (if my mental mapping is even vaguely accurate here).

You've heard of people who suck. You've also heard of people who shoot others in the head for their shoes. Unless you use other people and their pathetic behaviour as a guideline for your own life, I'd suggest not doing those things. In this case, it's stealing, you're a thief if you do it, it's been discussed to death and it isn't going to be again. Consider this a new EB Guideline... if anyone promotes, suggests, or otherwise appears to cause theft from TLG, EB members or anyone else in the LEGO community, you will be banned. It isn't cute, it isn't funny, it isn't up for discussion. Drop. Dead. Banned. Discussion closed.

We do need to vote for someone or do the two killer plan. Of course, you're only delaying the inevitable this way since we'll still have 2 night killers to contend with after we kill Pavarti and Willie. Then the inactive ones. Then the ones who we don't know anything about. So, here's the plan. We kill one, then we kill the other by vote. Why by vote? Because I don't think we can rely on 2 night killers to kill one person and I doubt you all want to pick a 3rd for today. If we don't, however, how can we really test this? Even if both put in their hit, obviously only one could do it, then we would assume they were the loyal one. What if the one they're killing is loyal and they were more than happy to do it because they're a rat? Suddenly, we're trusting the wrong person and kill the other killer. Then we're screwed. That means we need to kill one, then kill the other ourselves, then figure out the killers. How anyone proposes to do that, I can't even imagine, but for this stage, we vote for one today, they die, we vote for the other one first thing tomorrow, they die, then we figure out what we're doing beyond that. Hopefully there are still some helpful loyal night actions left to help us decipher this mess. Oh, and I would have gone for Willie first: I tend to punish misleading spouses of rats before stupid spouses of loyal family, but it's your call. Whoever you all decide on, I'll vote for, as long as it's agreed that the other one goes tomorrow, otherwise we might as well just shoot ourselves in the head. *kisses Willie and then Pavarti on the lips* One or both of you are rats. You're both as good as dead now. :skull:

Not really sure I approve of you joining for the sole purpose of using us, but it seems harmless otherwise. Still, I got rid of the identical threads that you put in the other forums and am just leaving this one. And yes, you need to specify a currency or #1 is useless.

Well, we have pretty clear evidence that Chester liked to sit around and make up silly codes while drinking lots of booze and surrounding himself with all of these ugly dragons. Clearly, the man was daft. We also have this camera which reveals that he was taking pictures of the house from outside at a distance, and these lovely cigars. Hmmm? Oh, and my bottle of gin. Don't get any ideas.

You're going to vouch for Inertiatieri. That's an amazingly useful bit of information, we'll add it to his tombstone. Gah. Useless.

An informative and useful guide that has been added to the index. -- ImperialShadows, EB News. Seriously, it's great! Why the peroxide step, though?

Dragonateri and Adalaide have both been conspicuously absent.

One or both of you screwed up the operation. For the reasons I have stated above, we can't be sure if it was one or both, so both must die. It's how it works. I'm sorry for that, but there is no other way without an investigator.

As someone noted earlier, the operation that went bad previously had two rats. In this case, if we pick the wrong one, we're still down a loyalist and we've given the rats more time. If both are bad, we kill one and then think the other one is good and are deceived. If both are good, we end up killing both. In every instance, the only way to be sure is to kill both. That's the problem here.

Well, if we want both dead, we just use the night killers, assuming they'll agree. It's pretty much what I was thinking as well. So, for example, Quarrioni kills Willie and Trexxasani kills Pavarti. Then who do we vote for? I have an idea, but I'd like to hear suggestions...

You say that, it may even be true, but you still get to vote. Voting is one of the most important parts of this game ... of life. As for loudmouths, please be specific. If we don't talk, we don't get anywhere. This isn't like other situations where we would vote publicly and make our true natures known by our alliances, here we have to talk, unless you have some reason not to want your true nature known, of course. If we decide that, you're dead, aren't you? Are you threatening to come back and haunt us? Oh, and you only very weakly defended your wife, so don't try to claim a noble position, you simply posted confusing things that didn't help the situation. I would have had more respect for you if you'd actually said, "I can't know for sure, but I hope she's innocent" and left it at that, as opposed to rambling confusion. That sentence alone was enough, huh?

I'm leaning the same way. Stupid isn't as dangerous as silent, sometimes. Stanton was an unfortunate mistake we wouldn't have made if we'd listened to Pavarti. I don't know if she was just guessing luckily or had a reason to believe he was innocent, but he was and we killed him. If we'd listened, we'd be in a better position now, and you lot wouldn't be drinking all my whiskey instead of his. When Wynona was suspected, Willie made a post that raised my suspicions, mostly because it seemed to be designed to confuse more than help or even defend. I think he knew he couldn't defend his own wife safely and didn't want to risk it, and for him to know that ... I'm not sold outright, but I'm definitely leaning. Got a specific suggestion? I still like pistols at 10 paces by the pale moonlight.

I can't seem to gather up the energy to continue my story, but I will take a moment to try to summarize some elements I was using and how I envisioned them working. Aluvar and his party were chasing an unknown evil wizard who had managed to manipulate the council (of 5? 6? I can't remember anymore) and corrupted that mystical sort of wizard headquarters dimension I had in some of my last chapters. Shadows and his party were tracking down the source of the skellies and found that they were being used by an unexplained evil force that had convinced one of their own to go against the humans. The head of the skellies actually appeared to be the undead son of Aluvar. I know it's all in one of those silly chapters... some battle, everyone dead, bodies left in the sudden retreat, then he awoke to find himself undead and went against the humans. In reality, the skellies aren't bad, they're just being used to cause trouble, thinking that the humans are trying to destroy them. All of the evil forces are connected, but seperate. I did picture a major central evil to be behind all of it, but figured that we were each fighting smaller parts on the periphery of the problem. They were intended as the direct henchmen of the unexplained evil above, but I did refer back to Aluvar having dealt with them before. I intended their boss to be something he had faced at some point, but never figured out what. Probably something as simple as a wizard gone bad. There were a lot of odds and ends used in the Crown Castle portions of things involving skellie plots and a former attempt to kill the queen (well, she was dead-ish and the brought back towards the end of my more serious chapters). I had a few named characters either plotting or fleeing at the end. On the lighter end, in the future a group of robot ninjas were chasing Staudie to give him his regular brain wipe. He had been built to annoy people and was doing a particularly good job, but it was never explained why. You can pretty much toss this part of things out, though my idea was to have it serve as a future manifestation of the previously believed to be defeated evil. I don't know if any of that helps, I didn't plan ahead much, mostly just winged it.

Anything conclusive? Aside from both not being overly chatty, I haven't been able to pin them down at all.

Don't get that wrong, I'm not sticking up for either of you at this point, I just have a weird suspicion that you both might be good. It fits into the way this game ... of life has been played. Without public voting, it's been very hard to discover loyalties, thus meaning that two good killers, though slightly different kinds, could end up being just as much trouble as good (and you both have ). At the same time, I don't believe the feds are trying to kill us, they want our information. Worst case, you two could always target each other tonight and let this go down "old west" style, since you're both stuck in the past.

I've sat back and watched this very disturbing day unfold and it saddens me. We are a family being torn apart by deception. Let's try this logically. What do we know? Quarrioni and Trexxasani are the night killers. Either one could be a traitor, both could be traitors, or both could be loyal, as odd as that sounds. I've said it since day 1, the feds probably don't kill, they arrest, they spy, they probably go through our trash and listen to our houses, but I don't believe they kill. Both admit to making some well placed hits and some poorly chosen ones. Given the nature of this game ... of life, I don't know how either has selected targets with absolute certainty, so it's not surprising. What do we do? Kill one of them randomly. Great. If they're both loyal or if we choose poorly, we've lost a valuable tool that might be keeping us from being overrun by rats. Worse, we might kill one and think we've dealt with the rat, only to discover that both are. I don't believe that to be the case since I'm not convinced that the feds kill, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing to happen thus far. Kill one, then the other. Again, great. If they're both loyal, we're screwed. If we get them out of order, while we're killing the wrong one, the other one kills us (probably me, dammit). Wait. If one is good and one is bad, they can keep killing people behind our backs until we win. Yes, if they both live and kill one person each, per night, the family will win because we'll maintain the lead we currently have. And they'll probably kill me, dammit. Didn't that nonsense go out in the middle ages? Blah blah, middle ages again. Geez, both of our killers are stuck in the past. Thanks, I think. My instinct here says to do nothing, strange as that is. Tampering increases our chance of upsetting the balance, while allowing it to play out should keep us in the winning position to the end. Until we know who to kill with certainty, we only risk hurting ourselves. Is that a gamble anyone is willing to take, given our poor record of choosing rats? This is true, I do believe that he's loyal. I was concerned when Richie seemed to have the same job, but he kept changing his story so much and Johnny didn't, he's said the same thing since the first time we spoke and has provided useful information to back it up. I suspected him as well, though not enough to convict. I'm a bit annoyed that he's dead, but you've both screwed up enough to share the blame for this whole situation. Seriously.

Oh please, I've known Mary for centuries...

While nothing has been decided yet regarding the official EB set of emoticons, if you're looking for something similar but different, still incorporating LEGO, you may want to contact member BrickheadProductions, who posted this thread offering a set of his own for our use. Beyond that, I honestly think you're better off not using any. Emoticons are really just a way to convey emotion when words aren't enough, but since you're able to incorporate images in your work, they shouldn't be necessary. It's all a matter of presenting the story well enough that the feelings are obvious instead of having to hit the reader over the head with obvious cues. Just my opinion, though, and clearly up to you to decide what works best for you.

Reminds me of the kind of shots you take when you're planning to do some renovating. Seems like more and more evidence is piling up in that direction. Now, since this cryptogram is pure crap and none of us can figure it out (I've had a team of experts attempt it as well), I'm going to run into the other room for a moment and consult with Anthony. *runs into the other room and discusses matters with Anthony who reveals that he thinks the cryptogram is crap as well, then returns* Ok, it's agreed, we think it's crap. We need a clue or this little red glass dragon is going down, mister!

Good job! It's scary that upon seeing this thread I thought "what a great idea for a quick contest to build a useful household item in 8 pieces or less"...

Talk to me, baby.

Yeah, those are funny too.

Leia: "Still celebrating birthdays at your age? You're braver than I thought!" Have a great one, guys, the usual routine: ABS and cake, not necessarily at the same time.

I'm fairly sure you can all guess that I had already voted, and who for. The lesson to be learned? Don't be confusing.