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Yes, in my relatively short presence in this forum, I noticed that many users tend to act like fanboys, plus some of them clearly have forms of ocd (with various degrees of seriousness). The outcomes are very elaborated posts on a formal level, which end to be substantially uninteresting, because the conclusion is always the same, Lego is perfect, they know better than any customer or competitor, don't discuss their decisions, just give them the cash and worship them. What these extreme fans don't realise is that, in relation to their knowledge or the amount of money and time dedicated to their hobby, they should be the first ones to push their beloved company to improve, instead of a priori defending the status quo. This immature attitude also damages this forum, because newcomers may feel bored, or unwelcome if not intimidated, therefore they will move to the comment section of some blog to express their opinions. Exactly. In fact the point of this thread was not Sw vs Space but Sw + Space.

Unfortunately I remember it very well. In my opinion with Space we reached a point of no return, the generational turnover is gone, the old customers don't care anymore, the younger ones aren't enough to support the projects. The result is that, due to the lack of products, the theme remains mostly unknown to new generations, a dog chasing its tail that only a decision from above can stop.

Judging by some replies I begin to have doubts about it :-) So true! Lol! Jokes aside, some replies of this thread are incomprehensible.

Don't you think that the Rover would have sold much more if they had used a known colour scheme?

Do you realise that there is a serious issues of disparity that, aside of being disrespectful towards their own history, is not very smart from a business point of view? If it is periodical, then there is an issue, don't you think? Really? Anyway I am not going to try to convince you if you don't even see the problem. Actually I posted on it.

Ok, I guess there is no problem then And lacking known colour schemes, ie not Space.

Exactly (kind of). Moreover I think you are missing the meaning of this thread Your sarcasm confirms the aforementioned suspicion. Rotfl! Ah ok, I believe you were joking.

Do we even realise how bad the situation is for Space? We are craving a 49 usd/eur creator set, hoping that it will have some known colour scheme (very unlikely considering what happened with the Rover). We should be happy about a spaceship released in 2014, not even a Ucs, a 100 usd model, hoping for another Benny's cameo in some new Lego movie in order to be entitled to another Space set (because, apparently, without a movie or a tv series customers aren't able to understand how to buy a polybag). I am forgetting the minifigures set and the Idea that miraculously passed the review in 2014. The situation for Space is surreal.

Not only I am in agreement with you but I am amazed by some replies in this thread, going from totally ot to wrong interpretations, lack of abstract thinking if not patronizing attitudes. No worries Sw fans, Lego will produce sets related to it forevever (or until the costs of the license will be repaid, generating a profit). I don't expect a Space comeback anytime soon because they wont overlap scifi themes and Sw is probably their golden goose. No, I am not expecting that they will begin to produce at a loss, but exactly because they are a business they are, in my opinion, losing potential incomes. In fact I dont think they are risking to go bankrupt by producing one - not a theme, just one - Ucs version of some representative spaceship or, at least, as Danth said, a creator set. Sw line-up will be kept untouched and maybe they will realize to have discovered a new (?) goldmine. A win-win situation.

Buildings https://www.flickr.com/photos/149907857@N08/42837702835/in/album-72157696463379272/ Landscapes https://www.flickr.com/photos/eliwillsea/46122200074/ Vehicles https://www.flickr.com/photos/35385165@N05/28388115109/in/album-72157622954488902/ Space https://www.flickr.com/photos/doctormobius/6838574257/in/album-72157629125887455/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/159870105@N07/38714855110 Architecture https://www.flickr.com/photos/moriartus/33846740511/in/album-72157651060593006/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/138986803@N03/29919199558/ Pirates https://www.flickr.com/photos/corvusauriac/46677045731/in/album-72157689034236564/ Castles https://www.flickr.com/photos/henjin_quilones/29240310818/in/album-72157695381075822/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/moriartus/43533126791/in/album-72157661966413032/ Trains https://www.flickr.com/photos/112058573@N02/24741281511/in/album-72157664035701991/ Licensed https://www.flickr.com/photos/momabrick/48913997746/in/album-72157711378249261/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/138986803@N03/49707913618/ Modulars https://flickr.com/photos/144373023@N02/44921317682/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/140672705@N08/34902180195/ "Technic" http://www.tilesorstuds.com/2014/02/famous-technic-sets-in-micro-scale.html https://www.flickr.com/photos/isaacsnyder/49049736612/ Call it microscale or miniscale, there is something for every taste below minifig dimensions. From tiny models made of few parts to larger creations, the possibilities are endless, far beyond commemorative sets or feeble architectural attempts. No excuses, amounts of small parts shouldn't cost a fortune. For instance, from a business perspective and considering the younger customers' market segment, wouldn't it be better, at a price of a minifigure polybag, to buy some small pieces in order to actually give life to something? A first step, at an entry-level cost, in a new world. We ran out of shelves - nanoblock anyone? - but space-saving priority does not mean giving up on elaborate buildings. There is nothing that can't be achieved by microscale.

Yes, apparently people need a "story", thought by others obviously, or a cartoon or a movie, they are too lazy to use their own imagination. All gone unfortunately.

With a relevant difference, original design vs copy. Until when? There is no more generational turnover for Space.

Exactly, they prosper, so why dont give it a chance to 1 model? Stop here please. Anyway the set is not really the point of this thread, their aforementioned politics is. Well said!

Shouldn't a classic be always available on the shelves being a classic? Isn't it the whole point of its nature?

I disagree and what annoys me most is to see that they dont even want to give it a serious chance. They release expensive sets over and over, about every miniscule aspect of SW, but they dont want (to overlap scifi themes)/cannot (due to some license agreement) make a modern version of at least one of their classic spaceship. Let's imagine a Ucs version of a Galaxy Explorer, built with modern techniques. I think it would sell very well, but we will never know until they try it. Instead we have a 349 usd/eur space pub. Id est enough people to justify at least one Ucs reboot of some classic spaceship. Moreover, who said that nowadays children or teens wont appreciate some modern version of a Space set? Aren't they tired of having the same SW models repeated every year with small variations? I didnt give up hope, yet. Not nearly enough in my opinion. The fact they didnt even celebrate Space 40th anniversary with a proper set was a scandal. It is what it is until people try to change it. What relevant factors do you consider aside Sw?

Horrendous lack of style. Some collaborations just don't work.

Lol! This outfit looks interesting.

Rotfl! Yes, I have a bad feeling too but I don't want to give an opinion until the final product will be released.

Perhaps the easiest way to make the act of building digestible by this new market segment, ie Lego parts used in the guise of jigsaws' pieces. Not to mention that the pop culture symbols are represented through a popular toy, the final result is pop culture squared. I agree, but we have to admit that this distorted perception is the base of our current consumer society. Well said, and so true.

As it happens with software and hardware, nowadays even Lego seems to have forgotten the importance of a proper beta-testing phase, and the recent, tragicomic, developments related to the set 42113 are another demonstration of it. The bigger the company, the less the chances of taking a step backwards, in spite of self-inflicted reputational damages. Saving time and costs in order to increase the release of new products, a frenzied race in search of profits.

I have the impression that this crossover doesn't satisfy either Lego builders or gamers. Wouldn't have been better to use Nintendo license in order to release more traditional sets - ie Creator/Creator Expert - based on Mario's iconic lore?

Mylenium, I was being sarcastic.

Customers are the cheapest testers, and they are so competent, fast and resourceful, judging by the amount of suggestions for fixing flawed models. I can understand - to a certain extent - issues with technic sets, but I can't accept problems with colour shades or printed parts' alignments.

Certainly it is much more easy to copy than to create, and this basic reasoning can be applied to every licensed theme. But I am confident that the same builders forced to reproduce other designers' works 9 to 5, have so many ideas in their drawers which are waiting to get an opportunity.

So true. Apparently people even need to be told what to imagine nowadays.