Marvel Superheroes 2024 - Rumors & Discussion

[Lego Nostalgia]

4 hours ago, wesker said:

I don't have high hopes for the Triskelion ever happening. Its not an iconic location and SHIELD is much more closely associated with the Helicarrier as its base of operations. The architecture of the building would also make it difficult to pull off as a modular. Either the exterior gets a larger than normal footprint or the interior rooms are too small and cramped to do anything with.

I can't see the Avengers Compound happening either while the Avengers Tower is still on shelves. The Avengers Mansion seems even less likely as it conflicts with both the tower and the X-Mansion.
 

I like the NYC idea. It would be a great way to cover a variety of different street heroes. Although rather than a single apartment building I'd probably go more for a collection of different establishments like Assembly Square.
 

I'd love a Malibu Mansion modular. I think 2028 could be a good year for one as it would be the perfect celebration for the 20th anniversary of Iron Man's first film.

Someone also brought up a good point earlier about the Fantastic Four being confirmed to appear in both upcoming Avengers films. Knowing they're going to be prominent on the big screen for the next 3 years does give Lego a much more flexible time frame for releasing a potential Baxter Building instead of trying to force it out next year.

I still think Superman is a more likely candidate for the next modular building than another Spider-Man one is. If DC does get the next modular then a Helicarrier remake would be a good alternative for Marvel's yearly D2C spot.

Lego does not have enough faith in DC to make a Modular that's not Batman, not worth the risk making something that might not sell well

[psqidexslizer]

3 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Lego does not have enough faith in DC to make a Modular that's not Batman, not worth the risk making something that might not sell well

A lot of people made the same argument for the X-Mansion. There was no way Marvel was gonna make a large modular for X-Men until after they had a movie in the MCU, and yet, here we are. No MCU X-Men film on the horizon, but the mansion set to release in under 3 months.

I’m not saying Lego will take the risk (at least, as much risk as there is associated with releasing a set for one of the most well known superheroes ever and one of the most anticipated films of next year), but I wouldn’t rule it out.

Edited August 14 by psqidexslizer

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17 hours ago, Felkin said:

Another Spidey D2C seems most likely, since the Bugle must be close to the end of its run, although what it could be I don't know. Some people suggest OzCorp tower, but would a villain's lair be iconic enough to stand alongside the Daily Bugle and Avengers Tower? Midtown High is a possibility, as both a classic Spidey location and (I believe) the setting for the upcoming Friendly Neighbourhood cartoon series, but would Lego want to feature Spidey fighting supervillains in a high school setting? The X-Mansion is a school, true, but Midtown High would have a lot more unpowered civilians in harm's way.

OzCorp is certainly iconic enough, especially if they take a page of the Amazing Spider-man man movies and let it be the location where Peter gets bitten. That being said, is it a location they should make right now? We already have 2 skyscrapers on the shelves, one of which also having a laboratory and everything. It's something that will most likely happen, but later.

Midtown High is a location I can never see them making as a big modular set, maybe as the setting for a small regular set, but it's just a regular school, there's absolutely nothing iconic about it. The only thing that will set it appart from any other school will be the figures, and even then most of them will likely just be cobbled together students.

[thebricksbear]

2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

A lot of people made the same argument for the X-Mansion. There was no way Marvel was gonna make a large modular for X-Men until after they had a movie in the MCU, and yet, here we are. No MCU X-Men film on the horizon, but the mansion set to release in under 3 months.

Xmen 97 released a few months ago and was massively popular. Not to mention, despite being sidelined during the MCU, the Xmen are still historically Marvel's 2nd most profitable IP.

 The X-mansion d2c wasn't much of a gamble at all.

 

As much as I have no interest in it, a Stark mansion d2c seems likely. Lego continues to release Hall of Armor expansions and a D2C would basically sell itself.

I'm still on team Asgard though.

[CloneCommando99]

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[Huigberts Builds]

2 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

A lot of people made the same argument for the X-Mansion. There was no way Marvel was gonna make a large modular for X-Men until after they had a movie in the MCU, and yet, here we are. No MCU X-Men film on the horizon, but the mansion set to release in under 3 months.

I’m not saying Lego will take the risk (at least, as much risk as there is associated with releasing a set for one of the most well known superheroes ever and one of the most anticipated films of next year), but I wouldn’t rule it out.

There’s a big difference between trying something new for Marvel, which has been a consistently successful theme for years, and DC, which has been on live support for quite some time and can barely even get any regular sets.

And like thebricksbear said, we got x-men 97, which has been a huge succes. Then there's Deadpool vs Wolverine, which has been the first X-Men related movie in the MCU and which pretty much brought back the spark into the movies after a 5 year long run of hit and miss, iconicly the same amount of time it took to fix the snap in universe.

Not to mention all previous big D2C buildings were concepts already proven in lego form. The Bugle, Sanctum and Avengers Tower were all previously made sets. And the X-Mansion almost was one as well, if it weren't cancelled when lego decided to shift focus to characters that Marvel owned full rights to, or at the very least appeared in the MCU, as made obvious by the games. Now that the X-men are back with Marvel, that's not really a "restriction" anymore. Point being, these are locations Lego already proved interest in before. DC simply doesn't have that luxury, they didn't even have faith a set with the Flash characters would sell, so they replaced the figures. That's really telling.

[poisonbricks]

4 hours ago, thebricksbear said:

Xmen 97 released a few months ago and was massively popular. Not to mention, despite being sidelined during the MCU, the Xmen are still historically Marvel's 2nd most profitable IP.

 The X-mansion d2c wasn't much of a gamble at all.

To be fair to the person saying that the X-Mansion was considered a risky move:

1. It's not like LEGO would have known it'd be successful in advance 

2. It wasn't actually that successful in terms of viewership - it picked up 6.8% of total viewership for D+ originals... and Echo had 11.8%. It had exceptionally low viewership even exclusively among Marvel shows.

Well-regarded by those who did watch it, absolutely. But massively popular? Not really.

That being said, I guess for a set like this you appeal to TAS and comic fans, but I don't really think '97 could've sold the model itself if it was say, a brand new animated series with less 'classic' character designs. 

[BrickBob Studpants]

4 hours ago, CloneCommando99 said:

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13 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

Well-regarded by those who did watch it, absolutely. But massively popular? Not really.

Maybe not, but TLG had at least enough faith in the IP to release 3 CMF figures last year, a remake of one of the allegedly worst-selling Marvel sets ever, and a huge D2C set

[poisonbricks]

Apologies if someone's said this already, but Unibricks claims to know all four figures from the new hall of armour set 

Iron Patriot MK1

Pepper Potts (he 'doesn't think' it's Rescue?)

Aldrich Killian 

Iron Man MK 42

 

[Lego Nostalgia]

6 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

Apologies if someone's said this already, but Unibricks claims to know all four figures from the new hall of armour set 

Iron Patriot MK1

Pepper Potts (he 'doesn't think' it's Rescue?)

Aldrich Killian 

Iron Man MK 42

 

I'm glad I don't have to replace the Endgame Rescue figure but I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT'S PEPPER POTTS IN THE BLACK SUIT AND PONY TAIL THAT'S BEEN IN SO MANY SETS ALREADY I'LL GO MAD

New MK 42 is nice, the one in the mech looked kinda similar though from a year ago or so

[poisonbricks]

Just now, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'm glad I don't have to replace the Endgame Rescue figure but I SWEAR TO GOD IF IT'S PEPPER POTTS IN THE BLACK SUIT AND PONY TAIL THAT'S BEEN IN SO MANY SETS ALREADY I'LL GO MAD

I personally hope that he just has the list of figures or something and hasn't seen the set, iirc last MCU Rescue was listed as 'Pepper Potts' too?

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 minutes ago, poisonbricks said:

I personally hope that he just has the list of figures or something and hasn't seen the set, iirc last MCU Rescue was listed as 'Pepper Potts' too?

The hologram in the avengers tower of the rescue must have been a hint towards this set

[Huigberts Builds]

2 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

To be fair to the person saying that the X-Mansion was considered a risky move:

1. It's not like LEGO would have known it'd be successful in advance 

2. It wasn't actually that successful in terms of viewership - it picked up 6.8% of total viewership for D+ originals... and Echo had 11.8%. It had exceptionally low viewership even exclusively among Marvel shows.

Well-regarded by those who did watch it, absolutely. But massively popular? Not really.

Well, we must keep in mind it's an animated show, hard to compare that to live action stuff. But what makes you say 6,8% is exceptionally low? I wouldn't say that. Even as an animated show, it comes in third place for this year, 6,8% is actually really good. Especially considering the info dates from in between December 30, 2023 and May 10, 2024. And with Echo and Percy Jackson (the two who beat it) releasing at the start of that time period and X-men 97 at the end, that's a rather unfair comparison. Especially considering the season final didn't even air at that time.

In reality, it had the biggest premier for any full length Marvel animated show, with the first episode getting 4 million viewers. The final being the most watched full length animated "series" final since What If season 1, with 3,5 million viewers. I wouldn't consider that "exceptionally low" in the slightest.

And yeah, sure they didn't know if it was gonna be successful in advance. Would they ever know with any of the stuff they sell? But they knew the original series was well regarded. They knew the public reaction to the announcement back in 2021 was very positive. They knew fans have been asking for X-men sets for years now. I would say it was far less risky than some people would think, especially less risky than DC.

And in the end, isn't well regarded by those who watched it all that matters? Those are the people who are gonna buy the merchandise after all.

[poisonbricks]

13 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

Well, we must keep in mind it's an animated show, hard to compare that to live action stuff. But what makes you say 6,8% is exceptionally low? I wouldn't say that. Even as an animated show, it comes in third place for this year, 6,8% is actually really good. Especially considering the info dates from in between December 30, 2023 and May 10, 2024. And with Echo and Percy Jackson (the two who beat it) releasing at the start of that time period and X-men 97 at the end, that's a rather unfair comparison. Especially considering the season final didn't even air at that time.

In reality, it had the biggest premier for any full length Marvel animated show, with the first episode getting 4 million viewers. The final being the most watched full length animated "series" final since What If season 1, with 3,5 million viewers. I wouldn't consider that "exceptionally low" in the slightest.

And yeah, sure they didn't know if it was gonna be successful in advance. Would they ever know with any of the stuff they sell? But they knew the original series was well regarded. They knew the public reaction to the announcement back in 2021 was very positive. They knew fans have been asking for X-men sets for years now. I would say it was far less risky than some people would think, especially less risky than DC.

And in the end, isn't well regarded by those who watched it all that matters? Those are the people who are gonna buy the merchandise after all.

My point isn't that it's low for animation, it's that it's low considering the other things that get D2Cs based on them.

For the last Marvel locations, you have:

Daily Bugle - not specifically based on any one incarnation, but Spidey's the character who has the most successful solo movies in the MCU and two beloved film incarnations before that, not to mention basically constant TV shows that people continue to grow up with 

Sanctum Sanctorum - Dr Strange isn't as heavy a hitter, but the Sanctum features in Infinity War which is obviously a huge film, plus both of his solo movies being pretty successful recently 

Avengers Tower - Based on mostly Avengers Assemble and Endgame, one of which is the biggest movie in the MCU and the other was probably a majority of the audience's introduction to it 

Worth noting that all of these came out long after their respective movies, so they already absolutely knew how beloved these specific properties are.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the X-Men, but the Mansion really is a surprising move, being the first D2C location for Marvel to be in development simultaneously with the thing it's based on, being based on the X-Men, who LEGO historically haven't done much with...

(and yeah, I know the licencing history, but going $10 mech - $80 jet - $330 modular is still a big jump for a relatively unproven IP in LEGO)

...AND who haven't had much mainstream success in recent memory (X-Men animated shows stopped long ago, the movies have kind of been on a downward trajectory since X2) - I think I'd have forgiven anyone for thinking that this was a 'never in a million years' type set at this time.

Still, very glad to be wrong, that's all I meant. Just a pretty significantly smaller audience than the last few Marvel modulars, I'd guess.

[psqidexslizer]

13 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

*snip*
 

And yeah, sure they didn't know if it was gonna be successful in advance. Would they ever know with any of the stuff they sell? But they knew the original series was well regarded. They knew the public reaction to the announcement back in 2021 was very positive. They knew fans have been asking for X-men sets for years now. I would say it was far less risky than some people would think, especially less risky than DC.

*snip*

You can make similar arguments for the Daily Planet. “DCU reboot was met with large excitement from fans.” “Superman is still a popular character.” “There’s huge public excitement for Superman back on the big screen.” “James Gunn has made some very successful superhero movies with C-listers, yet alone Superman.” Etc.

End of the day, nobody who knows what next year’s modular will be (if we even get one) is giving us anything substantial to go on. It’s fun to speculate what it could be, but saying The Daily Planet or The Baxter Building won’t happen because they’re based on unproven properties is ridiculous after what happened with the X-Mansion.

[upliftingbricks]

3 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the X-Men, but the Mansion really is a surprising move, being the first D2C location for Marvel to be in development simultaneously with the thing it's based on, being based on the X-Men, who LEGO historically haven't done much with...

Still, very glad to be wrong, that's all I meant. Just a pretty significantly smaller audience than the last few Marvel modulars, I'd guess.

Another data point to take into account is about 5 (maybe longer) an X-Manison got 10k votes on lego ideas (maybe cuusoo at time) but was rejected for a set to be made. So Lego knew there was some demand for one in recent times

[poisonbricks]

1 minute ago, upliftingbricks said:

Another data point to take into account is about 5 (maybe longer) an X-Manison got 10k votes on lego ideas (maybe cuusoo at time) but was rejected for a set to be made. So Lego knew there was some demand for one in recent times

Ah, this is a fair point, I forgot about that model!

[Huigberts Builds]

3 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

My point isn't that it's low for animation, it's that it's low considering the other things that get D2Cs based on them.

*snip*

Daily Bugle - not specifically based on any one incarnation, but Spidey's the character who has the most successful solo movies in the MCU

*snip*

going $10 mech - $80 jet - $330 modular is still a big jump

*snip*

(X-Men animated shows stopped long ago, the movies have kind of been on a downward trajectory since X2) 

Maybe for Marvel D2C's, but compared to other themes, X-men as a franchise is still wildly more successful than some other ones that got D2C's. Sure, the movies have been hit and miss ever since X2, but the same can be said for the MCU since the start. But one can't really say it is (or rather was) a complete downward trajectory, we've since gotten First Class, Days of Future Past (the most successful and arguably the best movie in the franchise, especially when watching the Rogue Cut), Logan. And that's not even including the Deadpool movies, in which the Mansion also appeared, which have been the most successful movies of the entire franchise. It wasn't really surprising Deadpool and Wolverine would be at least as big of a succes either.

And sure, this set is based on the animated series (which might also be a licencing thing, considering the movie version is a real building), but I would say it's a very smart move. Lego obviously couldn't cash in on Deadpool 3, but it was obvious interest in X-men related stuff, at the very least Wolverine, would be high afterwards. It's like when they did the Batman sets with Suicide Squad members when that movie came out, it's a non-tie-in tie-in. This year has been a big push for X-men altogether, the animated series, Deadpool, a new jumping on point for the comics. And if lego can look at Spider-man and sell it as a franchise rather than individual projects, they could do the same for X-men.

I do agree that it's a pretty big jump from barely any sets to suddenly one big, expensive D2C. Which I understand might come as a surprise but Lego is likely just seeing it as an extension of Marvel. When a theme is that successful they get room to play around a little. Not to mention it's a bit of a quiet season for Marvel related stuff, that's how we got the Daily Bugle the first time around as they couldn't move on with other sets because of the pandemic. And they did the survey way before the design was ready to see if there even was interest in such a set, plus there was the ideas submission with 10k supporters, let's not forget that. (Someone beat me to this as I took way too long writing this post, whoopsie)

3 hours ago, psqidexslizer said:

You can make similar arguments for the Daily Planet. “DCU reboot was met with large excitement from fans.” “Superman is still a popular character.” “There’s huge public excitement for Superman back on the big screen.” “James Gunn has made some very successful superhero movies with C-listers, yet alone Superman.” Etc.

End of the day, nobody who knows what next year’s modular will be (if we even get one) is giving us anything substantial to go on. It’s fun to speculate what it could be, but saying The Daily Planet or The Baxter Building won’t happen because they’re based on unproven properties is ridiculous after what happened with the X-Mansion.

Very true, however other than with DC, Marvel has a (mostly) pretty consistent line up of sets. The big misser probably being the Eternals sets, which are still keeping the shelves nice and warm. Marvel can do X-men because, in case it fails, they still have the other sets, Spider-man, Avengers etc., to use as a safety net. DC currently doesn't have that, a couple of Jokers and Batmans isn't enough. Lego DC just isn't that great right now. It sure used to be, and god I hope Superman will start the lego DC Renaissance. But they would probably want to take it slowly, test the water with a couple regular sets. As lego has become clearly deadly afraid of anything other than Batman for DC.

And yeah, people are excited for the Superman movie. But at the same time there are still people very vocally showing critisism against the movie. People unhappy with the (re)casting, "DC fans" afraid they're trying to copy Marvel's "funny" style, Snyder fans altogether unhappy with the reboot. Half of the comments under related posts are sceptical at best. Probably a loud minority, but pair that with the baffling decisions WB has made recently and it does set the tone of the state DC currently is in. And I'm not saying Superman is an unproven property, it's way too iconic for that. Nor am I saying it definitely won't happen. But DC has fallen from grace in recent years. It needs new life breath into it, but it's way less likely that Lego jumps on board with something huge right away. Slow and steady wins the race. Personally I have a lot of hope for the franchise, and that's not just because of the logo on his chest . But only within time.

On a sidenote, the Baxter building is an entirely different scenario. It's not that it's unproven, it's that the movie hasn't released yet. The entire thing with these modulars are that they are super detailed, the definitive versions of these locations. They can't do the Baxter building justice just from concept art alone (same can't be said for X-mansion as it's a continuation of the classic series, thus it has plenty of reference material), we don't even know if the one we saw in the leaked teaser is gonna be the definitive MCU version, with the multiverse going on and everything. We've never gotten the Fantastic 4 before, why now would they be in a rush to make a comic based modular for it, when the movie version, which will be the version in everyone's mind (at least to the general audience), is right around the corner?

In the end, it's not about being risky, but about it being a risk they can afford. For example, speeding and risking a ticket is way more risky for a poor man than for a rich man, who can easily afford one. Sure, anything can happen, and I would love both of these sets, but I'm not getting my hopes up because X-mansion happened. To me, the circumstances are way too different to compare the two.

[Classic_Spaceman]

On 8/13/2024 at 11:19 AM, BrickBob Studpants said:

I really like Ghost’s new helmet from the leaked trailer, hopefully she’ll be included in a Thunderbolts* set next year! Not too sure about Taskmaster’s new gear, but it’s something  

Ghost looks really good from what I can see; definitely based on Ghost’s second design in the comics (AMatW version was more inspired by Ghost’s first costume). I look forward to those lights turning red! 
I also really like what I can see of Tasky, as well! I never had a problem with the silver mask that she wore in BW, but this design is more traditionally Taskmaster. The mask is giving General Grievous a bit, though not more than the comic design on which it is based, and I do like the creepiness of the dark sunken eyes.
I am also expecting a personality shift to match her costume change, since Thunderbolts* takes place in the mid-to-late 2020’s, while Antonia was freed from Red Room control back in 2016 - Ten years is plenty of time for her to develop a more sarcastic and quippy personality (especially since that is kind of the MCU’s default anyway!). 
 

20 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

Apologies if someone's said this already, but Unibricks claims to know all four figures from the new hall of armour set 

Iron Patriot MK1

Pepper Potts (he 'doesn't think' it's Rescue?)

Aldrich Killian 

Iron Man MK 42

How legit is Unibricks? I am not familiar with them. 
As to whether this lineup is true, while it does make more sense than a random Endgame ‘fig in a more IM3-based set, the last Hall of Armor set had a mix of IM1 (MK.3 suit), IM2 (War Machine MK.1, Whiplash, Fury), IM3 (MK.25 suit), and Endgame (MK.85 suit)! I can absolutely see this HoA having a random mix of suits as well, so I am personally waiting for a more credible source to confirm the lineup. 
 

[poisonbricks]

44 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

How legit is Unibricks? I am not familiar with them. 

As to whether this lineup is true, while it does make more sense than a random Endgame ‘fig in a more IM3-based set, the last Hall of Armor set had a mix of IM1 (MK.3 suit), IM2 (War Machine MK.1, Whiplash, Fury), IM3 (MK.25 suit), and Endgame (MK.85 suit)! I can absolutely see this HoA having a random mix of suits as well, so I am personally waiting for a more credible source to confirm the lineup. 
 

He's relatively reliable, but not as much as the other more prominent leakers. I'd give it a big grain of salt.

Personally hope he's right, with the exception of Pepper - MK42, War Machine MK1, Rescue, Killian might be enough to sell the set for me 

[BrickBob Studpants]

2 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

He's relatively reliable, but not as much as the other more prominent leakers. I'd give it a big grain of salt.

Yeah, not fully trusting this info unless a reliable source corroborates it. Killian would be cool to have if he’s more accurate than his 2013 precursor

[BrickBob Studpants]

Good and bad news: Exabricks amended his minifig list for the Hall of Armours. He confirms Killian () but also states that it’s regular Pepper rather than Rescue ()

Maybe they finally give her a unique faceprint again? I really don’t like how they recycle the same like 3 faceprints for all the female characters

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Well, I'm glad it's an Iron Man 3 set after all, even if it's just another generic armory.

Wait, what's even the point of an armory if there are no additional armors to display?

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Well, I'm glad it's an Iron Man 3 set after all, even if it's just another generic armory.

Wait, what's even the point of an armory if there are no additional armors to display?

The point is to add more halls of armor to the armory, the suits are just an add on

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4 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Good and bad news: Exabricks amended his minifig list for the Hall of Armours. He confirms Killian () but also states that it’s regular Pepper rather than Rescue ()

Maybe they finally give her a unique faceprint again? I really don’t like how they recycle the same like 3 faceprints for all the female characters

Hopefully it's an Extremis Serum Pepper.

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Wait, what's even the point of an armory if there are no additional armors to display?

Maybe this one is for the most part a big display for Igor? He was kinda left out of the previous displays, had to kinda stand awkwardly to the side