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3 hours ago, MSY-MSP said:

Well I ran into both Slave1 and BB shuttle at Costco here in the US.  slave 1 was $39.99 and BB was $86.99.  So there is some discounting go on already.

Costco had the BB? Surprised! They need to get into the Lego game more here in the US. 

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I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

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4 hours ago, Prometheus87 said:

Costco had the BB? Surprised! They need to get into the Lego game more here in the US. 

They've been in it for a long time, the stores are just so big that it's hard to find the legos! :laugh: They usually have good discounts right off the bat, and they even used to have exclusive bulk lots (I think just bionicle and basic system parts, not star wars specifically).

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11 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

The Star Destroyer is a fantastic finished model and there are many impressive techniques used in its construction. There is a lot of repetition due to the in-universe design of the ship. I own a lot of large sets across themes, and frankly the building process is not as exciting as a Modular, Hogwarts / Diagon Ally, or the larger Ideas / Creator sets. I also enjoyed the UCS Falcon building process more. All that said, it comes down to whether you care more about the build process or the display. As you pointed out, for the cost of this set you could have multiple alternatives.

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12 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead?

Depends on what you’re looking for :wink: It’s a very impressive-looking model and the building process is rewarding in my opinion; completing the inner frame for example is a cool experience because it’s only then you realise how gargantuan this thing truly is. I haven’t had that feeling with many sets so far.

I also agree with @Archer though, it’s a bit of a repetitive build, but at least the sides are mirrored and not identical. That said, I imagine the new AT-AT to be a lot more repetitive in its buildings process for the legs alone :grin:

In essence, if you look for a lot of variety, other sets might be more up your alley (the Gunship for instance has a lot to offer). If you want an impressive display piece that draws a lot of attention to it wherever it’s placed, I can definitely recommend the SD :thumbup:

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27 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

 

That said, I imagine the new AT-AT to be a lot more repetitive in its buildings process for the legs alone :grin:

I'm really hoping that the legs are built first to get that tedium out of the way!

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Awesome, thanks for the insights. When we move I may consider the space and whether it will fit, or look to get a large Technic set and some of the new Creator Expert sets. They're releasing so much good stuff at the moment.

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Some builds are fun, some are not so much. I find the building experience goes a long way to whether I enjoy the final model or not. 

It’s not Star Wars but the most recent official build that was awesome all the way through was the ghostbusters ecto-1. I enjoyed every minute of that and it looks awesome on display. It felt like a UCS set but in another theme 

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16 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

It's a fantastic display piece and a largely fun/interesting build. The only part I didn't enjoy (nor did my fingers) was placing all of the large plates together to form most of the outer shell. It's fun seeing it come together, but when you put all those plates together for the fourth time, you're a little tired of it. Otherwise, it's a joy to build and I think even more rewarding to display. There isn't a bad angle at which to view the behemoth in my opinion.

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17 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

Compared to 10030, the latest Star Destroyer build is far more advanced:  The outer panels are modular, there is no reliance on magnets, the proportions are vastly improved, the support structure and the design itself is WAY more effective in preventing the infamous drooping that 10030 suffers from.  The unboxing is an experience in itself and - speaking of boxing - my 75252 has been temporarily disassembled, but not completely parted out.  I managed to only have to break down the ship into large components and still fit all of it in the original packaging.  If I felt compelled to put it back on display, re-assembly would only take an hour or so.  For my part, the 75252 checked all the boxes for me.  I love the set and I highly recommend snagging one - you'll regret letting this one go.

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1 hour ago, lego_guyon02 said:

It's about time.

 

I’ve been playing through The Complete Saga in anticipation of this new one recently. The wait for info about this game has been hella brutal.

Hopefully we get a good amount of gameplay and whatnot.

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17 hours ago, lego_guyon02 said:

It's about time.

Yes! Very excited. I hope it'll feature a new release date, and that it's not too far away.
But I should be patient :innocent:

Regards,
Mitch

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Got my replacement Bo helmet and as I feared it seems that the shaky white printing issue is chronic. The top of the print is thinner and grainier then the rest of it, and I have a feeling it’s not going to be there in say five years. It is a much crisper print then my original helmet tho. 

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On 8/19/2021 at 5:00 AM, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

Honestly, I think there is way way more value and quality in the UCS Falcon. Its around the same price and really there is just no comparison. The build is challenging, interesting and fun. I would not even consider the ISD unless I already had bought the Falcon. The new ISD is better than the old one, for sure. But they really did not make the same level of effort for it (maybe cost considerations?). 

If you get the Falcon you will get arguably the best Lego kit of any kind ever made. 

If you get the new ISD you'll get a slightly better one than before, that still looks like it was designed more than 10 years ago. 

Just my opinion of course. 

Edited by TwoSolitudes

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1 hour ago, TwoSolitudes said:

Honestly, I think there is way way more value and quality in the UCS Falcon. Its around the same price and really there is just no comparison. The build is challenging, interesting and fun. I would not even consider the ISD unless I already had bought the Falcon. The new ISD is better than the old one, for sure. But they really did not make the same level of effort for it (maybe cost considerations?). 

If you get the Falcon you will get arguably the best Lego kit of any kind ever made. 

If you get the new ISD you'll get a slightly better one than before, that still looks like it was designed more than 10 years ago. 

Just my opinion of course. 

I would second that. building the Falcon was the absolute pinnacle for me, nothing has ever come close to scratching that same itch and it looks spectacular on display.  I have high hopes for the AT-AT later this year 

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On 8/18/2021 at 10:00 PM, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

I enjoyed it. Its a good set.

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18 hours ago, TwoSolitudes said:

Honestly, I think there is way way more value and quality in the UCS Falcon. Its around the same price and really there is just no comparison. The build is challenging, interesting and fun. I would not even consider the ISD unless I already had bought the Falcon. The new ISD is better than the old one, for sure. But they really did not make the same level of effort for it (maybe cost considerations?). 

If you get the Falcon you will get arguably the best Lego kit of any kind ever made. 

If you get the new ISD you'll get a slightly better one than before, that still looks like it was designed more than 10 years ago. 

Just my opinion of course. 

While i wholeheartedly agree the the Falcon is better and is vastly more interesting to build, I'd have to give a hard disagree on saying the Star Destroyer looks 10 years older or a low effort bdesign. Other than tiling the whole thing off and maybe the engines I don't see where the design lacks. I know many, including myself would have linked a panel or two that could be removed to show interior detail, but I can'r fault the design of what we got for things it never promised to include. To me the reason it isn't as interesting to build is mostly due to the in-universe ship being a single colored triangle, imposing as it is. The Falcon inherently has more variation, color and detail in its in universe design.

All that said I would be genuinely interested in what aspects make it seem like 10+ year old set to you.

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hachiroku has posted an amazing Bad Batch MOC that doesn't look like it would be too hard to build or using hard-2-find pieces. I think it I even see a bunch of pieces that could be reused from the official version.

Not too big of a fan ot the BB myself but since people were asking a lot about better versions of the ship I leave his building tutorial here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Pr37Isai8

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2 hours ago, Archer said:

While i wholeheartedly agree the the Falcon is better and is vastly more interesting to build, I'd have to give a hard disagree on saying the Star Destroyer looks 10 years older or a low effort bdesign. Other than tiling the whole thing off and maybe the engines I don't see where the design lacks. I know many, including myself would have linked a panel or two that could be removed to show interior detail, but I can'r fault the design of what we got for things it never promised to include. To me the reason it isn't as interesting to build is mostly due to the in-universe ship being a single colored triangle, imposing as it is. The Falcon inherently has more variation, color and detail in its in universe design.

All that said I would be genuinely interested in what aspects make it seem like 10+ year old set to you.

Its all subjective of course.... but I think its easy to get carried away when you look at the previous one from what... 2001? 2002? From that perspective they used better ideas, and obtained a better overall shape. But lets compare it to the other USC's from that time period. 

Falcon. OK we can ignore this for now, it's so much better its not even worth debating. But before that was the excellent snow speeder, the terrific Slave 1, and the very good Tie Fighter. In each of those cases you had pretty smooth lines (or an illusion of them), an emphasis on getting the look less lego toy and more professional studio model. The builds were dense, interesting, educational and detailed inside and out. The technics used were original. Frankly in those cases, even the MOCs at that size were really not much better that what lego put together. Then the Falcon came out and I was blown away. If there is a MOC in this scale better than the official lego Falcon I have not seen it. 

Then the ISD. It's as if they lost the plot. The exposed studs all over. Big empty frame. Nothing really ground breaking in the build. On top of that there were at least 4 pretty well established MOCs out at that point which were way way more advanced, more original, better looking and much more accurate. They used more bricks of course, but the overall designs were just much better. There were a few MOCs of smaller ships- the 4500 piece Constrictor for example- which give some idea of what was possible, and what should have been. Of course nothing was promised, but you would expect that at nearly the same price as the Falcon you would get something at the same ground breaking level- and it just wasn't. Had it been released in 2012 it would have been amazing. But in 2020? My expectations were high and this didn't come close to meeting them. They made it 'big', but if the Falcon and the Salve 1 are an A, then ISD is a C+. A passing grade, but not worth Falcon money. 

I didn't mention mini figures as I don't really care that much about them in UCS sets- but they were weak as well. 

I saved up for the Monarch- and that is a work of art with a well deserved place next to the Falcon.  

Again just my opinion! If anyone bought it and loves it -  great! 

 

20 hours ago, LDigital said:

I would second that. building the Falcon was the absolute pinnacle for me, nothing has ever come close to scratching that same itch and it looks spectacular on display.  I have high hopes for the AT-AT later this year 

I want that AT-AT to be awesome. I've passed on the gunship in expectation of a spectacular AT-AT. 

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So...where did the OP of this question even ask about the UCS Falcon?  Wasn't the question, Should I get the Star Destroyer or three other sets (for the same cost)?

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On 8/19/2021 at 4:00 AM, RichardGoring said:

I know, I know, this is going to be one of those impossible to answer, it's a personal decision things, but never-the-less. I'm not really a Star Wars fan, and think Episode I is the best movie - honestly - and light sabres are cool, but have no strong feelings about it. I don't have any Star Wars sets. But I keep being drawn to the 75252 UCS Imperial Star Destroyer and thinking it's really cool. It looks great, is very well made, and is certainly imposing.

For anyone that's built it, is it a really good experience and were you satisfied with it, or would you recommend getting three other amazing sets instead? I normally enjoy the larger builds from Creator Expert and Ideas. I'd appreciate any thoughts or insight. I've watched several videos that are all really positive and enthusiastic, but figure that folks here might be slightly more objective (or perhaps not). Thanks so much.

Personally, given how you like episode 1 the most... 

I'd be inclined to look at bricklinking a UCS Venator moc instead. There are a fair few out there that are really impressive, and thankfully, of various sizes so you get to choose to a degree, how big and how much you spend. 

I'm at the point where if TLG do a great set of it, cool! If not, and I really like the ship and someone's done a moc of it and it's got instructions? I'll get that. The end model is what matters to me, not about having an official TLG box or official tlg instructions. 

However, Disclaimer: I don't have 75252. And I never will. Its nice, I guess. But it's a big grey door wedge. As much as I love the films, the Venator is something much nicer and aesthetically pleasing to the eye, and I'm certain would be just as much fun, if not more, to build. But, if its what you like, or anyone else, I'm pleased for them! :) 

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