TeamThrifty Posted November 1, 2025 Posted November 1, 2025 2025? What the hell has gone wrong. Car, car, car, car, yawn, car, car, £350 for a 2500 piece p**s poor copy of 8043?!!, Car, car, car.... Coma. I've downloaded new instructions for the BWE and i'm rebuilding it this xmas. 10 times the set of anything available this year. Is this TLG's bright idea of the future or is the fault of the put-it-on-a-shelf demographic. I neither know nor care. Whoever it is is wrong. Quote
Timorzelorzworz Posted November 1, 2025 Posted November 1, 2025 Spoiler alert: It's not getting better :) Quote
8868 Posted November 1, 2025 Posted November 1, 2025 At least we'll save money. For me personally it's not big problem. I like cars and we get lot of new parts and parts in new colors for MOCs. Quote
Jurss Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 (edited) I bought 4 cars this year :) Until now I enjoyed building huracan, bronco. There were interesting and clever build techniques. FKX is waiting to be built. I have also F&F supra. Bought it mostly for parts, so don't know if I will build it. In fact, also others were mainly bought for parts initially, but appeared to be interesting builds. So, I would say it is not so bad. And don't judge book by its cover. Edited November 2, 2025 by Jurss Quote
Ngoc Nguyen Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 12 hours ago, TeamThrifty said: Car, car, car.... Coma. Did the lineup cause you a car-diac arrest? Quote
Oh_Hi_Mao Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 The only purchase last year for me was bush plane and volvo front loader. That's it. I am still sour about the volvo excavator, that is the first technic heavy duty flagship which I haven't bought since 2011. I still cant process how Lego aproved functionality/pricing for 42215. Quote
Auroralampinen Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 14 minutes ago, Oh_Hi_Mao said: The only purchase last year for me was bush plane and volvo front loader. That's it. I am still sour about the volvo excavator, that is the first technic heavy duty flagship which I haven't bought since 2011. I still cant process how Lego aproved functionality/pricing for 42215. Yeah same. I also buyed the polybag skid steer loader, and the 42213 for the suspension pieces plus the tires:). But mostly i have now spended my money on pantasy sets. They are much better:). Quote
JunkstyleGio Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 Oh dear... I only got me the Ducati this year... The rest of the sets were kind of "meh" to me. Am i in my dark ages? Quote
TeamThrifty Posted November 2, 2025 Author Posted November 2, 2025 3 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said: Did the lineup cause you a car-diac arrest? 7 minutes ago, JunkstyleGio said: Am i in my dark ages? It does feel like a a TLG induced dark age In many ways i'm fortunate, i spend 99% of my time building mocs. To me thats the point of lego, BUT, i enjoy a shiny new set with new pieces for xmas. I've had cada sets recently but they're 95% cars this year. I'm now 100% mocs with specific new parts bought directly from lego, but not sets. ...And the BWE rebuild will be awesome. Such an underrated set!! Quote
Aleh Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 17 hours ago, TeamThrifty said: 2025? What the hell has gone wrong. I have hte opinion, no, the statistics that customers do not prefer heavy equipment but supercars - that's the reason TLG produces too much of them Me as you can notice based on my mocs is a fan of heavy equipment. I bought zero sets of 2025 modelyear, but purchased recently o McLaren P1 set - tradition and collecting, nothing more. Quote
gyenesvi Posted November 2, 2025 Posted November 2, 2025 4 hours ago, JunkstyleGio said: Am i in my dark ages? No, dark ages is when you don't build any more, not when you don't buy sets. 3 hours ago, TeamThrifty said: I'm now 100% mocs with specific new parts bought directly from lego, but not sets. So no problem here, keep on doing it, maybe buy some sets for the parts, and don't get disappointed about the sets; after you reach a certain level in designing your own stuff, it's natural that anything that TLG makes will not be so satisfying to you as it used to be. That's just how it is. Quote
TeamThrifty Posted November 2, 2025 Author Posted November 2, 2025 2 hours ago, gyenesvi said: That's just how it is. Maybe... but i love opening a big flagship box. Its still a thrill. 4 hours ago, Aleh said: customers do not prefer heavy equipment but supercars We used to get some variety though, something for everyone. And if we're honest, heavy equipment has more variety and lends itself to lego better than supercars - they're all about thousands of pieces to make a pretty looking car, they're totally formulaic and repetitive. BWE/Arocs/Cat D9 are proper technic. Not pretty but functional and have huge variation in functions. True technic sets. I accept people enjoy building cars, but that shouldn't be at the virtual exclusion of other sectors - And i know there's an excavator this year, but its a joke for all the reasons previously discussed. What about licensed JCB sets? So many great options there.... A flagship backhoe is the most obvious, but there's also the fasttrac - a machine unique to jcb. Both of those are rich in functionality and make wonderful 'genuine' technic flagships. A 4k piece licenced backhoe?! Wow.. Instead we getting the eleventy-third car in the last 2 years alone. Quote
allanp Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 (edited) On the surface it might appear that the wider public prefer good looking cars over more functional type machines. But is it because they seem to have got better at cars and worse at functional machines? If so, can we really blame the public for wanting a good example of a McLaren P1 over a p**s poor example of a Volvo excavator? But the Arocs did sell far more from what I can see on brick set. It's frustrating because they really can have the best of both worlds. A gearbox with two shafts and all gun metal grey clutch gears (perhaps with a different coloured coded inner ring?) would look great as well as be functionally better. A backhoe, or pretty much every hydraulic machine would look better and more authentic with pneumatics rather than with LAs and a bunch of multicoloured gears and axles running everywhere. It'll look better because it IS better! Beauty is more than just fancy bodywork. It's hard to blame the public for this when it seems to me it's TLG that's doing functional Technic sets a disservice by forgetting how to make good examples of them. There are exceptions but they seem to be getting smaller and less frequent year by year. Edited November 3, 2025 by allanp Quote
Jundis Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 3 hours ago, allanp said: But the Arocs did sell far more from what I can see on brick set. Are the sales figures on brick set? Quote
ludov Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 Do we need yet another topic to complain about the number of cars in the lineup? Among the dedicated MOC topics currently on page 1 of this subforum, I count 12 cars, 2 trucks, 1 truck/crane, 1 combine harvester and 1 robotic arm. I can’t blame LEGO for concluding that people like cars. Quote
Auroralampinen Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 6 minutes ago, ludov said: Do we need yet another topic to complain about the number of cars in the lineup? Among the dedicated MOC topics currently on page 1 of this subforum, I count 12 cars, 2 trucks, 1 truck/crane, 1 combine harvester and 1 robotic arm. I can’t blame LEGO for concluding that people like cars. Yeah, i'm the lucky one who has the only combine harvester on the first page:). Quote
gyenesvi Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 8 hours ago, allanp said: It's frustrating because they really can have the best of both worlds. I tend to agree with this, lots of possibilities for improving parts and building techniques within cars. 1 hour ago, ludov said: Do we need yet another topic to complain about the number of cars in the lineup? Wanted to ask the same, but just let it go.. Quote
howitzer Posted November 3, 2025 Posted November 3, 2025 In this economy I, too, have to have more prudence than usual in spending, but at least I don't have to worry about missing a great Technic set as there's not much worth buying... Quote
allanp Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 16 hours ago, Jundis said: Are the sales figures on brick set? They show number of sets owned but that is limited to people who even know of brickset. I also look at retail sites (like Argos in the UK) that show you a snapshot of how things are selling. Quote
johnnytifosi Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 The little snow groomer was the last Technic set I bought on principle, as it was the last one with a B-model too. I have zero interest in new Technic, even if I got out of dark ages only a couple of years ago. It really feels like a TLG induced dark age for me as another commenter wrote above, because I would be willing to buy new sets if they were interesting or worth it. At least, I keep scanning the local ads and buy vintage Technic sets here and there. Why complain "they don't make them like the 8880 / 8868 / 42043 / you name it anymore", and not just buy that set? There is no way you can't find an interesting set in Technic's 50 year old history that you don't already own. They are superior to whatever junk TLG releases nowadays, and being used, they are way better value too. Last month I scored a used 8485 Control Center in its box for 100 euros, there is nothing in the current offerings that even comes close to this legend for the money. I have got my Christmas holidays building sorted out now :) Quote
Paul B Technic Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 I personally am focusing more on older sets, to do MOD's and MOC's. I only buy new sets to get parts these days. Quote
TeamThrifty Posted November 6, 2025 Author Posted November 6, 2025 On 11/3/2025 at 4:43 PM, ludov said: Do we need yet another topic to complain about the number of cars in the lineup? Yes we do. If we're expected to like sooo many car sets, expect to get soo many moans. The majority being silent just for the sake of it is the wrong approach Quote
Aurorasaurus Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 I dont mind cars. But I havent bought any of the new lego cars. The only reason to buy them is new parts, they're not as interesting as the old unlicensed models. Big, expensive, *empty* shells that don't even look good. I bought the peugeot 9x8 because it had unique suspension, but no other car set recently really took my fancy enough to take my money. Im happy to just wait for the parts to be on B&P and save myself a whole lot of money. But lego isnt really for serious afols anymore, it feels. Quote
Jundis Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 It really comes down to this I think: Most Technic fanatics don't mind that cars are making the majority of new entries, if: - the number of non-car technic models is still sufficient (lets say 10 cars per year and 10 other models, or even 12 / 8 would be fine for me) - the quality of the non-car models is still consistently high (looking down at you and spitting out, 42215) - a decent mix of Heavy Machinery / Trucks / Agriculture / ... is maintained - a decent mix of small / medium / big models is maintained - a decent mix of non-electric, electric, RC and pneumatic models is maintained, focus is on non-electric. In the video of @kbalage at min 1:00, the graph shows that the sum of non-heavy and other machines are very consistent over the years with 7...11 models. Quote
allanp Posted November 6, 2025 Posted November 6, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jundis said: It really comes down to this I think: Most Technic fanatics don't mind that cars are making the majority of new entries, if: - the number of non-car technic models is still sufficient (lets say 10 cars per year and 10 other models, or even 12 / 8 would be fine for me) - the quality of the non-car models is still consistently high (looking down at you and spitting out, 42215) - a decent mix of Heavy Machinery / Trucks / Agriculture / ... is maintained - a decent mix of small / medium / big models is maintained - a decent mix of non-electric, electric, RC and pneumatic models is maintained, focus is on non-electric. In the video of @kbalage at min 1:00, the graph shows that the sum of non-heavy and other machines are very consistent over the years with 7...11 models. That's certainly true for this Technic fanatic! I don't need 20 sets per year. If there's still a good selection of other great models then it's all good. And if the endless cars are helping to make the Technic theme even more popular among the casuals then great. I do wonder, would there be so many complaints about the number of cars if the non car sets were better, because I really don't think there would be. Edited November 6, 2025 by allanp Quote
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